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Japan: Advising someone to give up on their dream

What if someone asked for advice on their dream path and you felt it wasn’t the best choice for them? What is the right thing to do?

This is an anonymous blogger’s thoughtful response to an article [ja] where a 11th grader who is interested in a career in drawing, be it illustration, anime, or manga, asked anime creator and director Tomino Yoshiyuki for advice. [Update (added January 15th, 2010) - Matt Alt has translated this article in English on his blog.] Yoshiyuki agrees with the girl’s parents that she should go to a regular university and get a job as an office lady because simply having aspirations are not enough to thrive in this field. Unless of course, she’s ready to make a commitment armed with skills, determination, and readiness for hard work.

Walk of Life by Flickr user [O*] 'BharaT

Walk of Life by Flickr user bharat ram

Below is an English translation of the blog post “Making someone give up on their dream” (夢を諦めさせる).

As someone who manages to make a living as a freelance designer, I sometimes get questions from students with an interest in design. “I'd like to become a designer,” they say to me. In most cases, my intuition tells me they don't have what it takes, but how am I supposed to express that to them, how am I supposed to tell them to give up on their dreams? You have to be so extremely careful with your words when saying this kind of thing.

So that's what got me thinking: how do you tell this to a kid of high-school age without — as much as possible — hurting their feelings?

In all honesty, people who take something that they like doing and decide to do it for a living are actually a little insane. Which is not to say that they are stupid. In fact, the majority of them are clever. Whether these people be animators or manga artists though, the fact remains that the majority of them barely make enough money to pay the bills, working under outrageous working conditions. If you think logically about it, there is no question that people who avoid these risks and stick to ordinary work end up living a more enjoyable life. Nonetheless, these people who do this type of work are so devoted that they lose the ability to even realize this fact.

So as soon as I hear someone saying to me, “I’m thinking about becoming XYZ”, I already know they're not cut out for it. They're simply too rational for this career path. Even if they actually found a position, they would keep questioning whether to continue, and will not succeed. Faced with a rough path ahead, does the person who wavers and has second thoughts stand any chance against the person who plunges forth without any hesitation? You can tell if a person has this kind of determination just by looking at them.

The ones who say “I want to become XYZ, but I’m not sure how I should proceed”, aren’t cut out for it either. Successful people in any field have the uncanny ability to look objectively at their own abilities, and in addition to just being able to identify their shortcomings, they are able to survey their field and see with certainty what they need to do. I think we could even call it instinct. You’ll have to excuse me, but I find it really sad that the people around this girl haven’t been able to make her understand that what is necessary for her is not just genius with the pen, but rather this ability to really observe oneself. (Heh, this will probably seem like a contradiction, but I also think that what makes a great artist is the ability to see the things around him in this objective manner).

All in all, it’s easy to tell her, “You’re still young and there are plenty of possibilities ahead. Do your best!” However, if I were her homeroom teacher, I’d recommend that she get a salaried “office lady” position. Perhaps this is real kindness. If they were the “real deal”, they’d go down that path regardless of what anyone says. For students that just don’t have that spark, I consider it a teacher’s responsibility to help them look reality in the eye, instead of encouraging a bet on slender chances.

(Addendum)

I’m very happy to receive so much feedback on this provocative post. Thank you. I’ve read all of the comments and Tweets. There were more sympathetic voices than I expected, but essentially, people were divided in two parties. I think it shows what a difficult issue this is, and how it’s not possible for someone to unilaterally come up with the right answer. Some people quoted musicians and conductors, and I can sympathize that these are competitive and unforgiving fields as well.

Because I wrote in a way that upset people who are already on this road, there were some emotional comments. To stay true to yourself and your dream is a road filled with distractions from naysayers and temptations to take the easy way out. There’s simply no time to be livid at the lack of understanding from your friends and family, let alone becoming unsettled because of a random, unfeeling blog post! Remember, everyone is going through life with uncertainties.

Also, any discussion about how “regular” jobs are also difficult is so obvious that I won’t respond to it here. Of course it is.

Whether or not to say things like this to a person face to face is a difficult issue, and it’s a bit cowardly of me to start on this after writing this post but personally, I would place some distance with people who state their dreams like this. There are some things you can say because it’s anonymous and online, and people who criticize that I am denying the existence of the dreamer should think again. This is a suggestion on how I would advise someone to give up on their dream.

An ordinary but appropriate opinion is to have the person follow their dream and see for themselves, if the dreamer is someone who has that kind of time. A wake up call to reality, if you will. The rest is up to them, whether to continue or to quit. Remember, it's your life!

This post was started by Chris Salzberg, carried further by Ziggy Okugawa, and finished off by Tomomi Sasaki. Thanks, team.
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  • Tyler

    I would have to disagree with Yoshiyuki’s instant judgment of this girl’s skills based on his “intuition.” She is still young and still has the ability to develop the skills needed to be whatever she wants to be; by pigeonholing her into “Office Lady” material, he’s curbing the development that she could undertake if instead he gave her encouragement.

    The American Psychological Association just published an article titled “Believing You Can Get Smarter Makes You Smarter” ( http://www.apa.org/research/action/smarter.aspx ), which found that “thinking about intelligence as changeable and malleable, rather than stable and fixed, results in greater academic achievement, especially for people whose groups bear the burden of negative stereotypes about their intelligence.”

    Basically, the more you believe you can do something the more you will be able to learn it and do it. So if your teacher, or parent, or favorite animator tells you that you CAN learn the skills necessary to accomplish your dream, you will subconsciously work harder and be more likely to succeed. Instead, Yoshiyuki is dismissing her based on a stereotype – something she is likely to do herself unless she’s given encouragement.

    Tell people to follow their dreams. It’s better to fail than to never even make the attempt.

    • http://www.ripplet.jp Tomomi Sasaki

      Hi Tyler,

      Interesting paper, thanks for the link. I definitely agree with the premise. I’m curious though, do you think there would be a difference in the theory applied to achieving academic intelligence and a creative vocation?

      Although it’s true that Tomino-san doesn’t know the girl personally, I feel his advice really comes from the heart, based on his vast experience and take on the future of the industry.

      Matt Alt has translated the entire response here:
      http://altjapan.typepad.com/my_weblog/2011/01/dream-cleaver.html

  • http://oneluckylife.wordpress.com/ Andrea Arzaba

    ;) If you really want something, it happens! If you put your heart into it, you can make it real! -Trust me, I have experienced it :D -

    Wake up call to reality? I would doubt about that!

  • Rick Stewart

    I do not believe children should ever be told, “You will never be capable of doing that.’ Instead, I always told my children, “To be good at this will require a lot of work. By you, not me, although I’ll be happy to cheer for you from the sidelines.”

    None of my children turned out to have either the talent to do the things I thought they might be good at, nor the interest in doing them. But all four turned out to have both talent and interest in doing other things.

    I can’t claim any credit, particularly, but I can objectively state all four of them appear to be having great times in their lives, and are still my four best friends.

  • http://darkdreamsstudios.com Martin McDonald

    I agree with Tomino though. He’s warning the girl of the arduous path ahead of her. I myself was similar to her. I had been a doodler and sketcher my entire life from since I was in elementary school. I am lucky enough to have had two relatives who worked in the field to guide me in the basics of art, but it wasn’t until my junior year of high school that I wanted to pursue animation as a career. But after graduating college I found I had little luck getting work, but I’m still at it myself. It does take more than just awesome art skills to be successful, you need to know how to network, drive yourself in a business like manner and be patient. Most people aren’t patient and can’t wait the average 12 years it takes for someone to become successful in the creative field. Does that girl have the patience to wait until she’s in her 30′s to finally get recognition and work as hard as she can until then? Only time will tell. I’m only in my 7th year of choosing my field so I have some more time to work my ass off and try to meet the people that will help me become successful.

  • http://www.bigsound.org/portnoy/ Portnoy Zheng

    Dear GV Japan team, this post in Chinese has won 1K+ likes/recommend on facebook.
    http://zh.globalvoicesonline.org/hant/2011/02/05/9112/

    • http://www.solanasaurus.com/ Solana Larsen

      Wow!

    • http://www.ripplet.jp Tomomi Sasaki

      Amazing news. I’m astounded by the response that this post has gotten, and am really happy to hear that it resonated so much with our Chinese audience.

      Thanks for letting us know, Portnoy. And thank you very much Shanta for the translation!

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