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		<title>FLOSS Debate at BytesForAll</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2005 08:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Frederick Noronha</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was this slug-fest at the <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bytesforall_readers">BytesForAll mailing list</a>. As one of the co-moderators, I simply shouldn&#39;t be getting dragged-in. But sometimes, claims and statements need a challenge. As you could guess, the Big Battle was about proprietorial-versus-FLOSS (Free/Libre and Open Source Software). It was quite predictable as to who would take which side. And, after some debate, there were these couple of great posts <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bytesforall_readers/message/6855">here</a> and <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bytesforall_readers/message/6849">here</a> , that put things neatly in perspective &#8212; thanks to <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bytesforall_readers/message/6855">David Geilhufe</a> who is co-founder of the <a href="http://www.socialsourcefoundation.org/">SocialSourceFoundation.org</a> and <a href="mailto:sunil@mahiti.org">Sunil Abraham</a> of <a href="http://www.mahiti.org"> Mahiti.org</a>.</p>
<p>It all started with a rather dismissive-of-FLOSS post by University of Manchester&#39;s <a href="mailto:mzdid10@fs1.ec.man.ac.uk">Dr Richard Heeks</a>  offering <a href="http://www.manchester.ac.uk/idpm/dig/briefings.htm">a link</a> to what is termed an eDevelopment Briefing titled <a href="http://www.manchester.ac.uk/idpm/dig/briefings.htm">&#8220;Free and Open Source Software: A Blind Alley for Developing Countries?&#8221; </a>. This blogger&#39;s response and the brief text is <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bytesforall_readers/message/6769">here for viewing</a>.</p>
<p>It turned into a &#8220;Richard versus Richard&#8221; fight with <a href="mailto:rms@gnu.org">Richard &#8220;RMS&#8221; Stallman, founder of the Free Software Foundation</a> joining in the debate <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bytesforall_readers/message/6794">with these comments</a>. There was a longish debate on benchmarking FLOSS. Javier Sola, a Spanish-Chilean working on Khmer language localisation in Cambodia, added some interesting points <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bytesforall_readers/message/6775">here</a> There were also comments which could be taken as supporting of proprietorial software (strange that any proponent of it should call it this restrictive time!)</p>
<p>Sunil Abraham <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bytesforall_readers/message/6848">argues how proprietorial software could kill</a> &#8212; no exaggeration, due to its delays and restrictions in a post-Tsunami situation. He also argues that &#8220;because Sahana (a Free/Libre and Open Source Software project to cope with disasters) is FOSS, the earthquake stricken people from Pakistan and India don&#39;t have to spend money earmarked for food on software.&#8221; Then, in an almost tongue-in-cheek Sunish manner, he argues that FLOSS &#8220;increases the responsiveness of an organisation. This is important whether it is peoples lives or greater profits.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="mailto:dgeilhufe@yahoo.com"> David Geilhufe</a> has this <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bytesforall_readers/message/6855"> very interesting response</a> to argue that FLOSS offers &#8220;viral diffusion&#8221; (to enable its uncontrolled spread, of course in a positive way), local control and lower barriers to entry. Well put, and very well argued. Here&#39;s what David argues eloquently: &#8220;There is no religious war here, but I think the staunch defenders of proprietary code get stuck on analyzing the software&#8230; this isn&#39;t the important part. One needs to analyze the innovation and use of software&#8230; that, I believe, is where the real ICT impact lies.&#8221; It impressed me enough to jump to <a href="http://www.socialsourcefoundation.org/">David&#39;s Social Source Foundation</a>. Self-description: &#8220;The Social Source Foundation is a nonproft organization that exists to create open source, mission-focused technology for the nonprofit and NGO sector.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#39;t miss another link below his .sig file <a href="http://www.openngo.org/">to the OpenNGO.org network</a>. Self-descrption: &#8220;OpenNGO is an open source project to create a set of web-based tools designed to meet the needs of small U.S. nonprofit organizations and non-governmental organizations across the globe.&#8221;</p>
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