Comments on: India, Bangladesh: East Or West, Bengal Is The Best

By: Indian first,later bengali

Indian first,later bengali — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:23:13 +0000

@Another Tiger
We people of west bengal will never merge with Bangladesh.We dont want so called “United bengal”. Its nothing but intention to ilsamaization. We are happy and proud to be with india.I am wondering how a bangladeshi ask an indian to learn history & math???? do they hav a single IIT or IIM? do they hav organization like ISRO? do they ever tried MOON Mission? Do they hav a single IT city like BANGALORE? Do they hav single organization like DRDO? See all bangladeshi here…. INDIA has a history of thousand years…u guys ??? ur history starts from just few years back 1971 huh!… dont preach.
Yes russia helped india.But now india is self dependent. You know we dont hav to depend on garment industry like u guys.
breaking up india is a concept of fools paradise. First manage you “SAKTI GARH” area & activist of “BIR BONGO” or bangladesh will be sliced with into two pieces & north western part of bangladesh will join with india.

—-cheers—

By: S. A. Khan

S. A. Khan — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:52:05 +0000

You talk about the golden era of Bengal. Great leaders like Desh Bandhu Chittaranjan Das, Netaji Subas chandra Bose, Rabindranath Thakur etc were great sons of Bengal. They were not communal and considered Muslim Bengalees as human beings. Something happened afterwards, possibly after 1905 when it appeared that there were a few muslims who(although they were a majority but mostly uneducated peasants) are trying to speak for their rights specially against Zaminders. Trouble started. Mahashabha consisted of zamindars and upper class kolkata never considered that the peasant population had a right and they went ahead alone with the slogan of “Bandemataram” .Whereas nothing apparently is wrong with the word but bigots circulated that this word was against Islam. Seeds of separation thus sown which now now proved wrong in all aspects. Moderation in those far off times might have produced better result subject to Patel-Nehru conspiracy to divide India by not acceting Cabinet CommissionPlan. These two even manipulated Mahatma who just wept and excepted the existance of pakistan without legimitacy

By: S. A. Khan

S. A. Khan — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:23:19 +0000

Think about giving autonomy to each of the Indian states. Get Pakistan interested to act similarly and create four states of NW frontier, Punjab, Sind and Balichistan. These states are likely to join states of india and create a United State of Inda. We bengalees in Bangladesh, W. Bengal, Assam, Tripura have to consider very carefully amongst ourselves and decide whatever is best for us at a later stage.

By: S. A. Khan

S. A. Khan — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:03:24 +0000

I agree with the idea of one Bengal, but who is gouing to listen?

By: Alex

Alex — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:28:43 +0000

What humbug!@
Ok let us have a separate Sindh nation. Let us have a separate Balochistan nation. How about a separate Tibet nation as well?
Go and take a break!
There is no nation in the world as good as India. It has a very pure mind and also non-intrusive in its thoughts. Thats why syncophants like you argue about any kind of nonsense imparted at Islamic madrassas or else where in the red nation.

By: RAHUL CHOWDHURY

RAHUL CHOWDHURY — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:18:32 +0000

I WANT TO TELL TO MY INDIAN FRIENDS THAT NOW THERE IS NO WAY WE CAN REUNITE INDIA.I AM A BENGALI BOY FROM KOLKATA AND I WOULD LIKE TO BORN AGAIN IN INDIA AND NOT IN BANGLADESH.BENGAL WAS ALWAWYS PART OF INDIA.ITS A MISFORTUNE THAT DUE TO NEHRU’S AND JINNAH’S GREED WE HAVE TO SEE INDIA DIVIDED.

AND TO MY BANGLADESHI FRIEND BIHAR,ASSAM IS A PART OF INDIA AND WILL NEVER BE A PART OF BANGLADESH.I AM VERY PROUD THAT I AM IN A PLACE WHERE OUR GREAT LEADER NETAJI SUBHAS CHANDRA WAS BORN AND WANTED TO SEE INDIA AS IT WAS.I KNOW VERY WELL THAT YOU WILL NEVER WANT BANGLADESH TO BE PART OF INDIA AS YOU HAVE GROWN UP HEARING YOUR MOTHERLANDS NAME BANGLADESH.

IF ONLY JINNAH,NEHRU AND PATEL WAS NOT THERE,INDIA WOULD HAVE BEEN WHAT EVERY ONE OF US IN INDIA DREAMS OF.YOU STAY IN BANGLADESH AND PLEASE DONT BOTHER US.WE ARE VERY MUCH HAPPY TO BE PART OF INDIA AND I THANK GOD THAT KOLKATA DID NOT BECAME A PART OF BANGLADESH OR EAST PAKISTAN BEFORE.

‘ GUJRAT SA BENGAL TAK,KASHMIR SE KANYAKUMARI TAK KEHTA SABHI HUM AK HAI, AWAZ DO HUM AK HAI JAGGOO

BHARAT HUMSA JAAN SA PYARA HAI,SABSA PYARA GULISTHA HAMARA HAI.JANMA BHUMI HAI HAMARI SHAAN SA KAHANGA HUM, BHARAT MATA KI LIYA JAAN BHI KHURBAN HAI’

SAMJHA?

By: Arnab Bhar

Arnab Bhar — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:08:08 +0000

Hi Rumi,sorry geting back late was overseas on a project.I tried to contact Barka but her schedule is booked for a month or 2 .Did u by chance got to contact any bangaldeshi journalists?

By: Vande Mataram

Vande Mataram — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:10:30 +0000

YES we bengalis of west bengal are ready to fight. We are ready to fight for coming 1000yrs….. but with BANGLADESH. We will reunite. but before that these pakistanis should be thrown away from bangladesh. Bangladesh was always land for hindus not for converted muslims. All converted muslims of bangladesh come back to your forefather’s religion hinduism. Then we will fight together & throw these pakistanis to bay of bengal. And we will reunite with INDIA.

—JAI HIND–

By: RUMY

RUMY — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:36:43 +0000

Arnab,
0ne and half month passed there ios now news from you;neither there are other debaters on this issue.This goes to prove that shyness could be proof of guilt of the unfriendly neighbour.
The Citizens however of both Country are happy and not too comfortabl;e at the handling of affairs of friendship by the State Politicians of both countryies having qualities of corrupt practices and destructive designs.
We hope this stalemate can be broken but efforts from public from both Countries are needed and these Politicians must be admonished.
They dont tell the Public the Truth and use sentiments that we helped so they must listen– listen to what? If they impose the result will be worrisome.
Internet is a great weapon for public to expose their corruption. That the reason why we wanted these debate with Barkha Dutt and other jouirnalists of India for them to know and I feel they are already aware so some of the illegal activities.
Lets hope we can be successful in opening this debate or can you provide me the email address of Rahul Gandhi?

By: Arnab Bhar

Arnab Bhar — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:25:46 +0000

Hi Ruma,Indeed you are right ,More people we can get to involve in this noble cause it will be better.I can probably post a comment when I can get some details from Brakha Dutt,and you can involve others as well.

By: RUMY

RUMY — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 08:30:52 +0000

Arnab,
was out of Country so couldnt respond. If you do get Barkha first discuss to confirm; you can join too and we can get the moderator Rezwan involved too. When things shape up positively and with intention to do something practically good (not mudslinging like politicians)- there are defects both Countries which need to be sorted- then we can set our golas and necessary mail address etc through the Moderator first.
Are you in to try make a good effort? Waiting your response.

By: Arnab Bhar

Arnab Bhar — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:27:33 +0000

Rumy can I have your email ,I am trying to setup a meeting with Barkha,if you may please.

By: RUMY

RUMY — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:28:46 +0000

Arnab,
Slow down because in yr eagerness you remain blind and dont see differnnce between Y and A- my name ends with Y- See bind habiyual range.
I never said about Break up India and it must have come from another source- India wont be divided as wont be Bangladesh but problems through present style of operations by the Politicans wont help/improve and so Your Statement may be absolutely correct that outsiders dont allow and they do to sell old junki weapons and continue giving both aid and Aids too. I am not Politician as I said so I dont dream stupidly–I think practically.
Industry is rich and so Industrialists in India– Bangladesh has industry but not the likes of tata and as our people are not too enterprising and patient they never will be-
But gone are the days that Bangladeshis r poor– there is poverty like India n paki -
What I am trying to say that Let India be as they are and not try to impose on Bangladesh because the purpose of friendship is defeated –you dont help a friend and then ask him for favours specially illegally ones and keep insisting that we HELPED so do buy our RICE even its 5 times more than abroad as happened when Prnab Mukherjee sold Rice during Sidr in Bangladesh–Check all Indian Newspapers and archives–thewy have the storey.
During Paki time even at height of insecurity no FENCE was built– now friends of Bangladesh –India thinks to make FENCE someone in Indian Admin is making lots of Money and yes shooting at Bangladeshis too…
Let me ask if your friend enters yr house do you shoot or act physically??– even if late hours You dont do either –but try to see what is the problem for a late visit.
Like I said first Sonia Gandhi ManMohan singh and Hasina Plus Khaleda should exclusiovely sit to disacuss whats friendship what they want of friendship- treaties old and new the whole Gamut then once agreed the Ministries can do the paper works– this renewed sitting to sort by Leaders Must be done for stability and PEACE- and here Indian Media and personalities (Barkha Dutt in MInd) or anyother should hold talk show to create public opinion to get facts and methods to improve relations– Right now daily new things are cropping up like Tipai Mukh- Transit- Trade but all is being forced instead of being discussed.
Lets not argue like the Politicians– hopefully you r also not a politician– if somethign good you want to do–it will like I think that we must make efforts for our Leaders to sit- Top 5 Leaders from India with Top 5 Leaders from Bangladesh.–Only then we hope to end all fights,suspicion etc

By: Arnab Bhar

Arnab Bhar — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:28:02 +0000

Ruma, Statements like “Break up “india”!” from the verse from ‘Another Tiger’ will certainly provoke sentiments like this.Comments from audience like this only point to elements to disrupt peace talks and to destabilize,as a responsible audience you should also have denounced any such acts also .You have to understand all the 3 countries have there own problems,but we were all one once and fought back the Britishers.I have voiced again and again,there are political elements in all the 3 countries who don’t want the people of the 3 countries to come closer for there own good.As well the western countries want us to be destabilized so that they can show they are more powerful and sell there scrap weapons.India had some cultural problems in the past when Pakistan was provoking the sikhs against India ,caste system is diminishing exponentially.Talking of Indo-Russian alliance,after independence India required high tech military hardware,cryogenic engines for its nuclear missiles assistance till it could develop its own indigenous Military Hardware which it is doing now,to counter China and Pakistan who were constantly aided by USA and China.Talking of education,Indian IITs and IIMs are considered the worlds 10th in rank and Asias 3rd topmost educational institutions.Reliance industries owner the Ambanis,Archelor miital,Tatas- Land Rover,Birla’s,Jaguar rank in the top 10 billionaires in the World.So we should stop fighting and discuss each others weakness and strengths rather than playing the blame game which we have been doing for the past 25 days

By: RUMY

RUMY — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:32:23 +0000

Arnab,
This post of yrs is now different from what good ideas you were sharing before.. this post of yrs is really open to criticism because India is one country but very undisciplined in political arena and ZTV n NDTV and other news are sufficient for proof of my Satement.
Caste system, Shikh problem now no demand for Khalistan but there is uneasy feelings within the group plus the great Hindivta party– and this Hindutava like our JMB is a reason for undemocratic system hindering progress.
Bangladesh is way ahead of India in many fields education and pharmecuiticals RMG etc and is tired of being pressed to follow the 25yrs treaty unofficially– and string to sabotage out industries too-
After WAR of Liberation and this is in records even in Indian writers articles etc-check through google–that Indian soldiers asked why did you fight pakistan because the buildings here in Dhaka City specially are far better and modern than in many Indian states—-
Food in many places are cheaper than in bangladesh but still poiverty in India is greater and worse that many go without even one day meal whereas in Bangladesh they have less food but never go without food– so Less is better than Nothing
Therefore Arnab you would be doing your Country a favopur if what you advised here would be programmed by you to fight your own Country Government as to not disturb bangladesh and even stop the bilateral trade with India for India tries to sell at higher price here.
Indian nworkers at RMG working without Permit and now Government trying to check them so a team comes from Delhi to say Please dont do that and in return we will allow Bangladesh parliament team to visit TipaiMukh Dam and then when they did they flew them on the air and never went nto the spot.
Bangladesh Citizens would be very glad if India did MIND their own Business and develop their Cities– India also is receipient of Aid from Donor Countries in amounts no less than bangladesh.
So please Practise what you advise and try to ensure first that your Government follows your advise.–try talking to Varun Gandhi and other BJP leaders and Congress where all the brains lie.
Cheers and wishing you success,
Barkha Dutt is a better analayst of Indian system and bold and has all datas–try discuss with her. As she is more practical is the reason why I thought of having a joint programme to have our Leaders revise all treaties etc.