Comments on: Madagascar: Rumors terrorize Antananarivo http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/02/14/madagascar-rumors-terrorize-antananarivo/ The world is talking. Are you listening? Thu, 16 Feb 2012 13:00:10 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Making Mada France Friendly « Tgoose’s Blog – A blog about the Madagascar political crisis of 2009 http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/02/14/madagascar-rumors-terrorize-antananarivo/comment-page-2/#comment-1570099 Making Mada France Friendly « Tgoose’s Blog – A blog about the Madagascar political crisis of 2009 Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:22:32 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=56771#comment-1570099 [...] During negotiations there was a slip up where a French diplomat had called Andry Rajoelina “Mr. President”. [...] [...] During negotiations there was a slip up where a French diplomat had called Andry Rajoelina “Mr. President”. [...]

]]> By: Solana Larsen http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/02/14/madagascar-rumors-terrorize-antananarivo/comment-page-2/#comment-1555504 Solana Larsen Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:19:13 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=56771#comment-1555504 I saw a photo of him for the first time a couple of weeks ago and was amazed by how young he looks. I saw a photo of him for the first time a couple of weeks ago and was amazed by how young he looks.

]]> By: Ali http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/02/14/madagascar-rumors-terrorize-antananarivo/comment-page-2/#comment-1555452 Ali Tue, 24 Feb 2009 07:09:37 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=56771#comment-1555452 Help me understand. Andry Rajoelina not six years too young to hold the post of president by Malagasy law? If so, it would take a change in law before he could even hold the post. He has not been elected. There has been no referendum. Rajoelina has set up an interim government which, as far as I am aware, is not carrying out any work other than to occupy certain government buildings and arrange rallies. The country is suffering. If there is a true desire to do what the people want, why not hold a referendum to find out if they want an early election? Violence breeds violence. Any radio station that names people addresses and incites listeners to acts of violence does not deserve to be allowed to remain on air. If Rajoelina is truly putting the needs of the people first, he must allow the people to vote on wether or not they want him as President by electing him, or get out of politics altogether and allow peace to return to Madagascar. As usual in these situations, it is the innocent who suffer most. Help me understand. Andry Rajoelina not six years too young to hold the post of president by Malagasy law? If so, it would take a change in law before he could even hold the post. He has not been elected. There has been no referendum. Rajoelina has set up an interim government which, as far as I am aware, is not carrying out any work other than to occupy certain government buildings and arrange rallies. The country is suffering. If there is a true desire to do what the people want, why not hold a referendum to find out if they want an early election? Violence breeds violence. Any radio station that names people addresses and incites listeners to acts of violence does not deserve to be allowed to remain on air. If Rajoelina is truly putting the needs of the people first, he must allow the people to vote on wether or not they want him as President by electing him, or get out of politics altogether and allow peace to return to Madagascar. As usual in these situations, it is the innocent who suffer most.

]]> By: Dago News Reader http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/02/14/madagascar-rumors-terrorize-antananarivo/comment-page-2/#comment-1555172 Dago News Reader Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:23:41 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=56771#comment-1555172 Have you seen the article on "Jeune Afrique" (february 19, 2009) ? [cf. 19/02/2009 10:22:52 - APANEWS - Quatre Français expulsés pour menace à l'ordre et la sécurité.] It is worth reading. Right or wrong analysis (?), it is also worth thinking about. Also, it would be interesting to know the reactions to the latest event: FFKM intervention and results. Have you seen the article on “Jeune Afrique” (february 19, 2009) ? [cf. 19/02/2009 10:22:52 - APANEWS -
Quatre Français expulsés pour menace à l'ordre et la sécurité.]
It is worth reading. Right or wrong analysis (?), it is also worth thinking about.
Also, it would be interesting to know the reactions to the latest event: FFKM intervention and results.

]]> By: Mialy Andriamananjara http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/02/14/madagascar-rumors-terrorize-antananarivo/comment-page-2/#comment-1554837 Mialy Andriamananjara Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:38:43 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=56771#comment-1554837 Again, thanks everybody for your appreciation and criticism. Just to enlighten everybody here, the point of GVO is to report what is seen in forums and blogs. That is why everything hereis mostly citations from bloggers and forumists. None are my own opinion. I tried hard to cover both sides. Andry TGV due to his background seems to have been better at communicating, and you can see this in all the rumors his team has managed to spread, vs the ostrich approach espoused by the very remote and quasi absent Ravalomanana side. I am not a professional journalist myself but "just a blogger" and I have tried hard to cover both sides points of view, although in this conflict, there were but only two proTGV bloggers I found, and one of them has been seen backpedaling most recently, most TGV supporters seem to have confined themselves to comments in forums. Peace to all of you ! Again, thanks everybody for your appreciation and criticism.
Just to enlighten everybody here, the point of GVO is to report what is seen in forums and blogs. That is why everything hereis mostly citations from bloggers and forumists. None are my own opinion.
I tried hard to cover both sides. Andry TGV due to his background seems to have been better at communicating, and you can see this in all the rumors his team has managed to spread, vs the ostrich approach espoused by the very remote and quasi absent Ravalomanana side.

I am not a professional journalist myself but “just a blogger” and I have tried hard to cover both sides points of view, although in this conflict, there were but only two proTGV bloggers I found, and one of them has been seen backpedaling most recently, most TGV supporters seem to have confined themselves to comments in forums.

Peace to all of you !

]]> By: Opponent view http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/02/14/madagascar-rumors-terrorize-antananarivo/comment-page-2/#comment-1554823 Opponent view Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:18:28 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=56771#comment-1554823 Hi Mialy You might be right when you criticise Andry Rajoelina ,it's up to you ,it's your choice ; But have you ever thought that IF we as Malagasy people keep on submitting our Ravalomanana as president what will be our futur life ,"DID RAVALOMANANA KEEP HIS PROMISE TO MAKE RICH POOR PEOPLE", I DON'T THINK SO HOW ABOUT THE MAP TO ENTER "MALGACHISATION" don't you think it is ridiculous because all Malagasy children will be less and less intelligent and the aim is to deteriorate their futur life in order to be farmer and SO ON? ! IN CONTRARY HE BECOMES RICHER AND RICHER AND WE POORER AND POORER FROM MONOPOLIZING PEOPLE'S WEALTH( UNLESS PEOPLE WHO ARE WITH HIM )!THINK ABOUT THE MAJORITIES'INTERESTS NOT THE INTEREST OF ONLY PERSON WHOM ALWAYS "WEAR RED TIE" (I don't know WHY? It's surprising??? ) HOWEVER DON'T BE SHOCKED THE BEST SOLUTION IS NEGOTIATION AMONG TWO MEN Hi Mialy
You might be right when you criticise Andry Rajoelina ,it’s up to you ,it’s your choice ;
But have you ever thought that IF we as Malagasy people keep on submitting our Ravalomanana as president what will be our futur life ,”DID RAVALOMANANA KEEP HIS PROMISE TO MAKE RICH POOR PEOPLE”,
I DON’T THINK SO
HOW ABOUT THE MAP TO ENTER “MALGACHISATION” don’t you think it is ridiculous because all Malagasy children will be less and less intelligent and the aim is to deteriorate their futur life in order to be farmer and SO ON?
!
IN CONTRARY HE BECOMES RICHER AND RICHER AND WE POORER AND POORER FROM MONOPOLIZING PEOPLE’S WEALTH( UNLESS PEOPLE WHO ARE WITH HIM )!THINK ABOUT THE MAJORITIES’INTERESTS NOT THE INTEREST OF ONLY PERSON WHOM ALWAYS “WEAR RED TIE” (I don’t know WHY? It’s surprising??? )
HOWEVER DON’T BE SHOCKED THE BEST SOLUTION IS NEGOTIATION AMONG TWO MEN

]]> By: Ben http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/02/14/madagascar-rumors-terrorize-antananarivo/comment-page-2/#comment-1554473 Ben Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:55:59 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=56771#comment-1554473 Misaotra betsika Mialy! As an american who spent significant time in Madagascar but who is tsy mahay teny gasy, your summaries (and translations) of the local bloggers is invaluable. Keep up the great work and many thanks! Ben Misaotra betsika Mialy! As an american who spent significant time in Madagascar but who is tsy mahay teny gasy, your summaries (and translations) of the local bloggers is invaluable.

Keep up the great work and many thanks!

Ben

]]> By: Miquel http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/02/14/madagascar-rumors-terrorize-antananarivo/comment-page-2/#comment-1553782 Miquel Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:47:25 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=56771#comment-1553782 It is great that you are blogging all those opinions. I feel that there is a lot of misleading information in Europe about what has happened generated by France. I wish that democratic entities of your country will solve this problem and they can judge all the authors of violence and trouble. I would hope that one international committee should judge the ones who financed it and all the international media that biased news in purpose. They should ask why they did all that. People and more the called "democratic countries and rich countries" should not play with the lives of citizens of the planet. Fortunately in Madagascar through Internet, local media and blogging more inquisitive people can get different news. The worldwide big lies in the world have been Iraq war and Rwanda conflicts. I feel that very often there is poetic justice and those who harm would be discovered hopefully sooner or later. It is great that you are blogging all those opinions. I feel that there is a lot of misleading information in Europe about what has happened generated by France. I wish that democratic entities of your country will solve this problem and they can judge all the authors of violence and trouble. I would hope that one international committee should judge the ones who financed it and all the international media that biased news in purpose. They should ask why they did all that. People and more the called “democratic countries and rich countries” should not play with the lives of citizens of the planet. Fortunately in Madagascar through Internet, local media and blogging more inquisitive people can get different news.

The worldwide big lies in the world have been Iraq war and Rwanda conflicts. I feel that very often there is poetic justice and those who harm would be discovered hopefully sooner or later.

]]> By: Dago News Reader http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/02/14/madagascar-rumors-terrorize-antananarivo/comment-page-1/#comment-1553760 Dago News Reader Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:29:18 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=56771#comment-1553760 Mialy, Thanks for trying. I wish our journalists in Dago had the guts to be truthful, or at least had some objectivity! I was not aware of what happened in schools: I understand though that there are some security concerns. Today (sunday) seems calm in Tana but local news continue to be very confusing. Your notes are interesting and to any observer of Madagascar sociopolitics, the current events have the signature of past ones: economic destabilization and threats /attacks to businesses for political gain. Education, mostly political education, is so much needed! Keep up the good work! Mialy,
Thanks for trying. I wish our journalists in Dago had the guts to be truthful, or at least had some objectivity! I was not aware of what happened in schools: I understand though that there are some security concerns. Today (sunday) seems calm in Tana but local news continue to be very confusing. Your notes are interesting and to any observer of Madagascar sociopolitics, the current events have the signature of past ones: economic destabilization and threats /attacks to businesses for political gain. Education, mostly political education, is so much needed!
Keep up the good work!

]]> By: TheKing http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/02/14/madagascar-rumors-terrorize-antananarivo/comment-page-1/#comment-1553592 TheKing Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:28:55 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=56771#comment-1553592 Good one! I really wonder if it is really an open war between the two men. How if it's just the media or the only part who is just wanting to destroy the other?Either way, malagasy people should think many times!! Good one! I really wonder if it is really an open war between the two men. How if it’s just the media or the only part who is just wanting to destroy the other?Either way, malagasy people should think many times!!

]]> By: Ivan Sigal http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/02/14/madagascar-rumors-terrorize-antananarivo/comment-page-1/#comment-1553562 Ivan Sigal Sat, 14 Feb 2009 18:22:05 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=56771#comment-1553562 Great post Mialy. excellent summary of what's happening. Thanks so much for doing this. A question for you - can you think of any way to start to sort out which rumors might be true? There are so many parallels here to other recent conflicts - Georgia, Kenya come to mind. In each of those, facts emerged slowly and still disputed. Is anyone - citizen media, mainstream media, international org, human rights group - doing this research, and if so could you point us to it? If not, maybe we can reach out to those orgs. Great post Mialy. excellent summary of what’s happening. Thanks so much for doing this. A question for you – can you think of any way to start to sort out which rumors might be true? There are so many parallels here to other recent conflicts – Georgia, Kenya come to mind. In each of those, facts emerged slowly and still disputed. Is anyone – citizen media, mainstream media, international org, human rights group – doing this research, and if so could you point us to it? If not, maybe we can reach out to those orgs.

]]> By: Mialy Andriamananjara http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/02/14/madagascar-rumors-terrorize-antananarivo/comment-page-1/#comment-1553509 Mialy Andriamananjara Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:48:37 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=56771#comment-1553509 Thank you for your comments everybody. Thanks Watchdog and tgoose. It is scary that private sector is also receiving threats. I would have reported on this had it been written anywhere in blogs or forums. I had also read somewhere about pupils and students being pulled out of schools by force by the TGV strikers. Is this a reason why the catholic schools have closed jusqu'a nouvel ordre? Comments here are moderated, not censured as jeli seems to believe. I am not a journalist, Jeli,and have no pretention of being one. The rumors are being spread, I reported on the ones I find on tweeters, forums and blogs, your not agreeing with them does not make them less "true", Jeli. Thank you for your very constructive comments nonetheless. I strive to be "objective" in my articles, and will strive to be even more so. Thank you for your comments everybody. Thanks Watchdog and tgoose. It is scary that private sector is also receiving threats. I would have reported on this had it been written anywhere in blogs or forums. I had also read somewhere about pupils and students being pulled out of schools by force by the TGV strikers. Is this a reason why the catholic schools have closed jusqu’a nouvel ordre?

Comments here are moderated, not censured as jeli seems to believe.

I am not a journalist, Jeli,and have no pretention of being one. The rumors are being spread, I reported on the ones I find on tweeters, forums and blogs, your not agreeing with them does not make them less “true”, Jeli. Thank you for your very constructive comments nonetheless.
I strive to be “objective” in my articles, and will strive to be even more so.

]]> By: Watch Dog http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/02/14/madagascar-rumors-terrorize-antananarivo/comment-page-1/#comment-1553452 Watch Dog Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:25:11 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=56771#comment-1553452 Hi Mialy Congrats for your posts, it 's a good summary of the threats we live at present. May I just add that Private Sector (Factories, EPZ, business, shops, public transportation...) receive also threats!! Hold on Mialy Hi Mialy

Congrats for your posts, it ‘s a good summary of the threats we live at present. May I just add that Private Sector (Factories, EPZ, business, shops, public transportation…) receive also threats!!

Hold on Mialy

]]> By: No news is good news. « Tgoose’s Blog http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/02/14/madagascar-rumors-terrorize-antananarivo/comment-page-1/#comment-1553387 No news is good news. « Tgoose’s Blog Sat, 14 Feb 2009 04:47:28 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=56771#comment-1553387 [...] an article that sort of opened my eyes to something I didn’t know was happening. There is an article by Mialy in Globalvoices about rumours and fear in Antanarivo. The article provides many quotes [...] [...] an article that sort of opened my eyes to something I didn’t know was happening. There is an article by Mialy in Globalvoices about rumours and fear in Antanarivo. The article provides many quotes [...]

]]> By: jeli http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/02/14/madagascar-rumors-terrorize-antananarivo/comment-page-1/#comment-1553376 jeli Sat, 14 Feb 2009 04:14:19 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=56771#comment-1553376 and.. why do you feel the need to censor your reader commentaries? and.. why do you feel the need to censor your reader commentaries?

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