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	<title>Comments on: Indonesia: Divorce and polygamy</title>
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		<title>By: Ronaldo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronaldo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 22:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When people talk about polygamy and affording more than one wife or husband it is amazing the amount of JEALOUS and RESENTFUL AND BITTER comments will come from those who WISH THEY COULD DO IT BUT JUST CANNOT COPE WITH IT LIKE YOU CAN. Poor JEALOUS UNBELIEVERS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When people talk about polygamy and affording more than one wife or husband it is amazing the amount of JEALOUS and RESENTFUL AND BITTER comments will come from those who WISH THEY COULD DO IT BUT JUST CANNOT COPE WITH IT LIKE YOU CAN. Poor JEALOUS UNBELIEVERS.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillian C. York</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/02/14/indonesia-divorce-and-polygamy/comment-page-1/#comment-1602437</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillian C. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J -

Polygamy disgusts me too; that said, a Muslim friend once explained to me his belief (interpretation) that Islam does not actually permit it.  Why?  Because it states that the man must treat all of his wives equally (both in terms of finances and personal treatment).  My friend said that it&#039;s obviously an admonition, as it&#039;s not actually possible to love two people equally.

Take that for what it is.  I don&#039;t believe any &quot;holy book&quot; is divinely imparted, but I do find the various interpretations of them fascinating.

-Jillian</description>
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<p>Polygamy disgusts me too; that said, a Muslim friend once explained to me his belief (interpretation) that Islam does not actually permit it.  Why?  Because it states that the man must treat all of his wives equally (both in terms of finances and personal treatment).  My friend said that it&#8217;s obviously an admonition, as it&#8217;s not actually possible to love two people equally.</p>
<p>Take that for what it is.  I don&#8217;t believe any &#8220;holy book&#8221; is divinely imparted, but I do find the various interpretations of them fascinating.</p>
<p>-Jillian</p>
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		<title>By: J. Kactuz</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Kactuz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Polygamy is an abuse of power of the rich and powerful against the weak and powerless.  To justify it on religious or economic terms is evil.

This discussion is for all readers, not just muslim readers. You post on GVO so you must know that.

Polygamy is also abuse of women.   Note that in islam Polygamy is a right  for the man and consent of an existing wife is not required.  That is a direct quote from Islamic cholars and Imams.

So, nobody is the west talks about adultery? Obviously you don&#039;t watch TV or read magazines. 

Also, in case you don&#039;t know, adultery is permitted in the Quran (Unless &#039;married women are forbidden unto you EXCEPT captives&quot; means something other than both rape and adultery). Also, all the caliphs had many wives and concubines (where do they fit in?).

Also you might want to look up Nikah al-Mut‘ah and Nikah Misyar marriages and explain how they fit into that &quot;sin in the eyes of God&quot; statement . Also why cant we question anything in Islam? (or any other religion for that matter).

Kactuz
PS:  yep, I agree that man is weak!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polygamy is an abuse of power of the rich and powerful against the weak and powerless.  To justify it on religious or economic terms is evil.</p>
<p>This discussion is for all readers, not just muslim readers. You post on GVO so you must know that.</p>
<p>Polygamy is also abuse of women.   Note that in islam Polygamy is a right  for the man and consent of an existing wife is not required.  That is a direct quote from Islamic cholars and Imams.</p>
<p>So, nobody is the west talks about adultery? Obviously you don&#8217;t watch TV or read magazines. </p>
<p>Also, in case you don&#8217;t know, adultery is permitted in the Quran (Unless &#8216;married women are forbidden unto you EXCEPT captives&#8221; means something other than both rape and adultery). Also, all the caliphs had many wives and concubines (where do they fit in?).</p>
<p>Also you might want to look up Nikah al-Mut‘ah and Nikah Misyar marriages and explain how they fit into that &#8220;sin in the eyes of God&#8221; statement . Also why cant we question anything in Islam? (or any other religion for that matter).</p>
<p>Kactuz<br />
PS:  yep, I agree that man is weak!</p>
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		<title>By: yaroo</title>
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		<dc:creator>yaroo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a man, and am writing straight as I feel about polygamy. I am not a polygamous , but as a man I have very closely observed the reasons for this acceptable act in my religion, that is Islam.

The issue of a second(third ,fourth) marriage is a contention and has been ever since man was created and shall remain till the last day. 

Islam speaks in favour of it with its very straight and to the point about its conditions under which it could be allowed.
Christainity totally discards ploygamy.Nevertheless Islam permits it as it is HALAL (allowed)and not HARAM(not allowed),for those who are muslims and can afford to do it financially with the conditions imposed. Now this discussion is for the muslim readers however others may read this account aswell for the sake of reading.
We all are guided and directed by our religions respectively, those who are believers.
Let us look at it as to why have polygamy in the first place , what are the reasons. This whole world revolves around the relationship between a man and a woman.This is undenyable.Now if the relation is smooth , coherrent systematic, respectful, tolerant ,compatibible then it survives a healthy inning. And the same world gives examples of that perfect couple.Thats and ideal situation. But normally this is not the case.There are dominating partners on both sides. Emotional and physical domination in addition to the attributes mantioned above.

The blame should  not only go to the man for polygamy.Women too play a very strong role in alluring men into polygamy.So the responsibility should not only be on to the shoulders of the man,since the other person getting married is a WOMAN.
Primarily if it was such an abhoring act then it would not have been allowed in Islam and that is not questionabale at all.God knows that man is weak!

Adultry is sin in every religion if I am not wrong.The hidden illicit relations , fornication , extra marital affairs , you name it , is not accepted . But the world is full of it ..not one in the west talks about that. One may have many extra hidden affairs , but when it comes to a legal second marriage it is punishable???????On the other hand second marriage gives a man and a woman a respectable position in the society as compared to the two un married partners living together having a ball of a time. By getting into the wedlock they do not commit a sin in the eyes of God. I am not talking about the eyes of the world which sees many things happening but stays shut.
Ploygamy reduces the adultry at the same time directs the man to shoulder the responsibilty of the woman in a respectable manner and should not consider her a down trodden trash like many women today have made of them selves all over the world, I am not going into reasons. 

A man who can financially honour to support a woman with all the equal rights can get in to another matrimony. On the other hand it is a mutual consent of a man and a woman to abide by the religious instructions and get into a wedlock for their happiness and contentment and flourishment.

Personal experiences and emotional feelings are a part of every act that we make. 

Why dont we get some comments from the ladies who have been the second wives.How and why did they allow this to happen in the first place?

Kindest regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a man, and am writing straight as I feel about polygamy. I am not a polygamous , but as a man I have very closely observed the reasons for this acceptable act in my religion, that is Islam.</p>
<p>The issue of a second(third ,fourth) marriage is a contention and has been ever since man was created and shall remain till the last day. </p>
<p>Islam speaks in favour of it with its very straight and to the point about its conditions under which it could be allowed.<br />
Christainity totally discards ploygamy.Nevertheless Islam permits it as it is HALAL (allowed)and not HARAM(not allowed),for those who are muslims and can afford to do it financially with the conditions imposed. Now this discussion is for the muslim readers however others may read this account aswell for the sake of reading.<br />
We all are guided and directed by our religions respectively, those who are believers.<br />
Let us look at it as to why have polygamy in the first place , what are the reasons. This whole world revolves around the relationship between a man and a woman.This is undenyable.Now if the relation is smooth , coherrent systematic, respectful, tolerant ,compatibible then it survives a healthy inning. And the same world gives examples of that perfect couple.Thats and ideal situation. But normally this is not the case.There are dominating partners on both sides. Emotional and physical domination in addition to the attributes mantioned above.</p>
<p>The blame should  not only go to the man for polygamy.Women too play a very strong role in alluring men into polygamy.So the responsibility should not only be on to the shoulders of the man,since the other person getting married is a WOMAN.<br />
Primarily if it was such an abhoring act then it would not have been allowed in Islam and that is not questionabale at all.God knows that man is weak!</p>
<p>Adultry is sin in every religion if I am not wrong.The hidden illicit relations , fornication , extra marital affairs , you name it , is not accepted . But the world is full of it ..not one in the west talks about that. One may have many extra hidden affairs , but when it comes to a legal second marriage it is punishable???????On the other hand second marriage gives a man and a woman a respectable position in the society as compared to the two un married partners living together having a ball of a time. By getting into the wedlock they do not commit a sin in the eyes of God. I am not talking about the eyes of the world which sees many things happening but stays shut.<br />
Ploygamy reduces the adultry at the same time directs the man to shoulder the responsibilty of the woman in a respectable manner and should not consider her a down trodden trash like many women today have made of them selves all over the world, I am not going into reasons. </p>
<p>A man who can financially honour to support a woman with all the equal rights can get in to another matrimony. On the other hand it is a mutual consent of a man and a woman to abide by the religious instructions and get into a wedlock for their happiness and contentment and flourishment.</p>
<p>Personal experiences and emotional feelings are a part of every act that we make. </p>
<p>Why dont we get some comments from the ladies who have been the second wives.How and why did they allow this to happen in the first place?</p>
<p>Kindest regards</p>
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		<title>By: Connected World Post #3 &#124; simonrh's Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connected World Post #3 &#124; simonrh's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 03:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and found that he had written a posts on February 14th about Indonesia. It is called Indonesia: Divorce and polygamy. This story is about women in Indonesia who are divorcing their husbands because of polygamy. More [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Bailey</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/02/14/indonesia-divorce-and-polygamy/comment-page-1/#comment-1553923</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 01:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Polygamy should be the choice of both participating adults. Not to suggest that I agree with the idea.

However the Children are my concern

Kids Need Equal doses of Mum, Dad, and all 4 Grands
They need their **Whole Natural Biological FAMILY**
Support the **Equal Parenting** Petition 
GO - http://petitionthem.com/default.asp?sect=detail&amp;pet=4275

Onward - Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polygamy should be the choice of both participating adults. Not to suggest that I agree with the idea.</p>
<p>However the Children are my concern</p>
<p>Kids Need Equal doses of Mum, Dad, and all 4 Grands<br />
They need their **Whole Natural Biological FAMILY**<br />
Support the **Equal Parenting** Petition<br />
GO &#8211; <a href="http://petitionthem.com/default.asp?sect=detail&#038;pet=4275" rel="nofollow">http://petitionthem.com/default.asp?sect=detail&#038;pet=4275</a></p>
<p>Onward &#8211; Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Nova Scotia Scott &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Indonesia: More divorces because of polygamy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nova Scotia Scott &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Indonesia: More divorces because of polygamy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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