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	<title>Comments on: Egypt: Bloggers Divided over Geert Wilders</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who are the nine egyptian bloggers that are currently in the Netherlands, invited through the Dutch embassy in Caïro? I just listened to the dutch tv program &quot;good morning Netherlands&quot;. Anyone in the loop?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who are the nine egyptian bloggers that are currently in the Netherlands, invited through the Dutch embassy in Caïro? I just listened to the dutch tv program &#8220;good morning Netherlands&#8221;. Anyone in the loop?</p>
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		<title>By: rag imon</title>
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		<dc:creator>rag imon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear all,

I do not believe that any religion itself encourages violence in any form or manner as the first line of defense let alone preaches violence as a way of life. And this, I can tell only after reading the holy books and their explanations of all major religions, i.e. Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism etc. 

 Have we, the people, ever tried to read the book called Quran? Are we going to take one man&#039;s interpretation as the &#039;whole truth and nothing but the truth&#039;? If we are not comfortable living our comfortable life without doing something about it, why not start by reading the actual &#039;thing&#039;? that takes a little more effort than just believing everything we see on TV, doesn&#039;t it? 

I am very saddened to see fellow bloggers from around the world mixing state rules and cultures of &#039;men&#039; ( as seen in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt and other Arab and African countries) and project their own &#039;limited&#039; views of Islam as the &#039;truth&#039;. You must not forget that Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh etc are also Muslim countries who have open and tolerant societies, countries where Islam and democratic values live peacefully. Is it not a democratic value to listen to the &#039;other&#039;? Is it not a democratic value to safeguard the voice and honor of the &#039;other&#039;? I salute Netherlands to practice these values and trying to solve tension in a lawful manner , tension that Geert brought in the peaceful culture of the Dutch. 

 Let us not forget how Christianity has been used to kill people in Europe(the witch hunt), killings no less horrible than those of Jihad fanatics. Let&#039;s not forget the holocaust. Please do not forget we can read about countless kings and rulers who devoted to religion of peace yet killed mercilessly in the fields of war. Unfortunately the present history of mankind is not deprived of them but merely know them as &quot;dictators&quot;. 

Dear Friends, please do not blame religion for the sins of men rather hold the people accountable for their unjust usage of holy scriptures. That should include both Geert wilders and Osama bin Laden in people&#039;s court of justice. 

No religion is evil. Only people are made evil. And how are the people made evil in this world? When the great difference becomes apparent between the few &#039;have all&#039;s&#039; and billions of &#039;have not&#039;s&#039; in this unjust economic situation. Poverty and oppression really do not need religion to carry out fanatic deeds but they do like to use the veil of religion none the less. 

Ask yourself, when a murder is committed, do you hang the knife or the murderer? 

If you really feel something is the enemy of your way of life, don&#039;t just take the media&#039;s word for it. Go directly to the real enemy ( the book of Islam or the state or  the country etc) and find out yourself why the people do what they do.  May be then you will understand and see that violence against women is common, and same in USA as is in any other &#039;Muslim country&#039;. May be then you will see poverty, inequality, oppression are the real enemies, not religion, not Islam.  
http://www.now.org/issues/violence/stats.html 
http://www.feminist.com/antiviolence/facts.html#global 

As for immigration and integration, if we want to become a citizen of a certain country then we must love the culture and values of that society. Muslims in Germany, Norway or Netherlands must prove to their fellow country men that they are as much citizens as they are Muslims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear all,</p>
<p>I do not believe that any religion itself encourages violence in any form or manner as the first line of defense let alone preaches violence as a way of life. And this, I can tell only after reading the holy books and their explanations of all major religions, i.e. Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism etc. </p>
<p> Have we, the people, ever tried to read the book called Quran? Are we going to take one man&#8217;s interpretation as the &#8216;whole truth and nothing but the truth&#8217;? If we are not comfortable living our comfortable life without doing something about it, why not start by reading the actual &#8216;thing&#8217;? that takes a little more effort than just believing everything we see on TV, doesn&#8217;t it? </p>
<p>I am very saddened to see fellow bloggers from around the world mixing state rules and cultures of &#8216;men&#8217; ( as seen in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Egypt and other Arab and African countries) and project their own &#8216;limited&#8217; views of Islam as the &#8216;truth&#8217;. You must not forget that Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh etc are also Muslim countries who have open and tolerant societies, countries where Islam and democratic values live peacefully. Is it not a democratic value to listen to the &#8216;other&#8217;? Is it not a democratic value to safeguard the voice and honor of the &#8216;other&#8217;? I salute Netherlands to practice these values and trying to solve tension in a lawful manner , tension that Geert brought in the peaceful culture of the Dutch. </p>
<p> Let us not forget how Christianity has been used to kill people in Europe(the witch hunt), killings no less horrible than those of Jihad fanatics. Let&#8217;s not forget the holocaust. Please do not forget we can read about countless kings and rulers who devoted to religion of peace yet killed mercilessly in the fields of war. Unfortunately the present history of mankind is not deprived of them but merely know them as &#8220;dictators&#8221;. </p>
<p>Dear Friends, please do not blame religion for the sins of men rather hold the people accountable for their unjust usage of holy scriptures. That should include both Geert wilders and Osama bin Laden in people&#8217;s court of justice. </p>
<p>No religion is evil. Only people are made evil. And how are the people made evil in this world? When the great difference becomes apparent between the few &#8216;have all&#8217;s&#8217; and billions of &#8216;have not&#8217;s&#8217; in this unjust economic situation. Poverty and oppression really do not need religion to carry out fanatic deeds but they do like to use the veil of religion none the less. </p>
<p>Ask yourself, when a murder is committed, do you hang the knife or the murderer? </p>
<p>If you really feel something is the enemy of your way of life, don&#8217;t just take the media&#8217;s word for it. Go directly to the real enemy ( the book of Islam or the state or  the country etc) and find out yourself why the people do what they do.  May be then you will understand and see that violence against women is common, and same in USA as is in any other &#8216;Muslim country&#8217;. May be then you will see poverty, inequality, oppression are the real enemies, not religion, not Islam.<br />
<a href="http://www.now.org/issues/violence/stats.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.now.org/issues/violence/stats.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.feminist.com/antiviolence/facts.html#global" rel="nofollow">http://www.feminist.com/antiviolence/facts.html#global</a> </p>
<p>As for immigration and integration, if we want to become a citizen of a certain country then we must love the culture and values of that society. Muslims in Germany, Norway or Netherlands must prove to their fellow country men that they are as much citizens as they are Muslims.</p>
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		<title>By: Bellerophon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bellerophon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care if Wilders is wrong or right; the matter is if you touch Islam you die (do you remember Theo Van Gogh?). You can kill a man with a gun or a knife, or just by saying he deserves to go on trial for his ideas. Some European Muslims attacked Christianity and Jesus Christ and no one put them on trial. Why don&#039;t they reply to Wilders without trials or death menaces, if they can? Who lives in Europe has to follow our rules. According to our laws, all religions have the same rights: it&#039;s a good thing if everyone respects democracy, it&#039;s a weakness if someone is thirst for power. As Louis Veuillot said, &quot;Quand je suis le plus faible, je vous demande la liberté, parce que tel est votre principle; mais quand je suis le plus fort, je vous l&#039;ote, parce que tel est le mien&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care if Wilders is wrong or right; the matter is if you touch Islam you die (do you remember Theo Van Gogh?). You can kill a man with a gun or a knife, or just by saying he deserves to go on trial for his ideas. Some European Muslims attacked Christianity and Jesus Christ and no one put them on trial. Why don&#8217;t they reply to Wilders without trials or death menaces, if they can? Who lives in Europe has to follow our rules. According to our laws, all religions have the same rights: it&#8217;s a good thing if everyone respects democracy, it&#8217;s a weakness if someone is thirst for power. As Louis Veuillot said, &#8220;Quand je suis le plus faible, je vous demande la liberté, parce que tel est votre principle; mais quand je suis le plus fort, je vous l&#8217;ote, parce que tel est le mien&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Blog Lurker</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/23/egypt-about-geert-wilders/comment-page-1/#comment-1575281</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog Lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marwa,

Perhaps you speak a little out of ignorance and comfort. You have freedom to express your interpretation of Islam because you are not under Islamic rule in the form of Government. I would like to see you move to perhaps a country such as Arabia, Afghanistan, Southern Pakistan, Iran and see if you would have the same liberties expressing yourself as an independent woman in view of the Quaran. You could be put to death for your liberal views. Your views are minority in origin. Please keep it real, true Islam is a movement of Political Ideology and control with absolutely NO VALUES! You surprise me being a woman and yet lingering in ignorance. Try walking 3 steps behind your master and having to wear a tent ( to hide your body) for awhile and then try to convince me of your passion for this so-called religion. On the other hand I certainly believe in freedom of speech, and you are certainly entitled to that. Please don&#039;t let your passionate zeal dig a hole in which you cannot climb out of!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marwa,</p>
<p>Perhaps you speak a little out of ignorance and comfort. You have freedom to express your interpretation of Islam because you are not under Islamic rule in the form of Government. I would like to see you move to perhaps a country such as Arabia, Afghanistan, Southern Pakistan, Iran and see if you would have the same liberties expressing yourself as an independent woman in view of the Quaran. You could be put to death for your liberal views. Your views are minority in origin. Please keep it real, true Islam is a movement of Political Ideology and control with absolutely NO VALUES! You surprise me being a woman and yet lingering in ignorance. Try walking 3 steps behind your master and having to wear a tent ( to hide your body) for awhile and then try to convince me of your passion for this so-called religion. On the other hand I certainly believe in freedom of speech, and you are certainly entitled to that. Please don&#8217;t let your passionate zeal dig a hole in which you cannot climb out of!</p>
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		<title>By: Zaki</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/23/egypt-about-geert-wilders/comment-page-1/#comment-1553537</link>
		<dc:creator>Zaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an ex muslim who left his religion, I find the legal condamnation of Mr. Wilders a sad day in the history of western democratic values.  The Netherlands the country that praizes itself for freedom of free thought and the historical beacon enlightment which was the envy of the modern European world is now giving in to some incideous witch hunt (albeit legal and formal, instead of blood seeking mobs) which is targishing the fundamental bedrock of decency and good living.

How can a man be pursued by the justice system as a criminal when a ransom was put on his head by muslim fanatics and cawordly muslim apologists?  He has been living under death threat for saying and showing what is written, read, praised, chanted and screamed by muslims themselves.  How can this be? He did not lie or made up stories about the words of Koran.  I cannot beleive it, how can these judges who live in their bubbles of muticulturalim be so stupid...

It is the death sentence of freedom of speech.  This would not have happened if the muslims in the Netherlands have kept to their religion behind their prison walls instead of trying to change everything around them that does not fit their creduleous self-righteous ideas and manners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an ex muslim who left his religion, I find the legal condamnation of Mr. Wilders a sad day in the history of western democratic values.  The Netherlands the country that praizes itself for freedom of free thought and the historical beacon enlightment which was the envy of the modern European world is now giving in to some incideous witch hunt (albeit legal and formal, instead of blood seeking mobs) which is targishing the fundamental bedrock of decency and good living.</p>
<p>How can a man be pursued by the justice system as a criminal when a ransom was put on his head by muslim fanatics and cawordly muslim apologists?  He has been living under death threat for saying and showing what is written, read, praised, chanted and screamed by muslims themselves.  How can this be? He did not lie or made up stories about the words of Koran.  I cannot beleive it, how can these judges who live in their bubbles of muticulturalim be so stupid&#8230;</p>
<p>It is the death sentence of freedom of speech.  This would not have happened if the muslims in the Netherlands have kept to their religion behind their prison walls instead of trying to change everything around them that does not fit their creduleous self-righteous ideas and manners.</p>
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		<title>By: William E Smith</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/23/egypt-about-geert-wilders/comment-page-1/#comment-1552549</link>
		<dc:creator>William E Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it amusing that people are up in arms over this man&#039;s views but never raise an eyebrow when the Bible or Christianity is attacked. The reason for this is cowardice. We fear a god of violence, a god of the darkness who only reflects light like the moon reflects the light of the sun but we don&#039;t fear a God of Love a God Who is the Light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it amusing that people are up in arms over this man&#8217;s views but never raise an eyebrow when the Bible or Christianity is attacked. The reason for this is cowardice. We fear a god of violence, a god of the darkness who only reflects light like the moon reflects the light of the sun but we don&#8217;t fear a God of Love a God Who is the Light.</p>
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		<title>By: Readers Edition &#187; Ägypten: Blogger uneinig über Geert Wilders</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/23/egypt-about-geert-wilders/comment-page-1/#comment-1548761</link>
		<dc:creator>Readers Edition &#187; Ägypten: Blogger uneinig über Geert Wilders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] er verschiedene M&#246;glichkeiten auf, Geld zu spenden.  Dieser Beitrag erschien zuerst auf Global Voices. Die &#220;bersetzung erfolgte durch Katrin Zinoun, Teil des &#8220;Project Lingua&#8220;. Die [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Mulder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Mulder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m sending this e-mail to everyone I know in the hope that it will be acted upon. Briefly, it concerns the impending punishment of Geert Wilders, a member of the Dutch Parliament. The Netherlands, like England and many other European countries have opened their doors to immigrants. Many of these immigrates have been Muslim. Instead of assimilating to their host county, they have, in many cases, demanded that their beliefs take precedence over their host countries laws or customs. This, of course, has caused tension. Geert Wilders is being prosecuted by the Dutch government because the Muslim guests do not like his belief that immigrants should assimilate to their host county instead of the other way around. This link is his crime: 
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020472.php
It is a 15 minute video called “Fitna”. It speaks for itself. We are comfortable here in the United States. We are sheltered, isolated from the atrocities we see and hear about on T.V. and what we read about in newspapers or the Internet. It is easy to agree with something I know in my heart and mind is right and yet not act upon it, because I’m comfortable and it’s the easier thing to do. I can’t do it anymore. I won’t do it anymore. Please watch the video. If you agree with what you’ve watched, please sign the petition in defense of Geert Wilders: 
http://www.petitiononline.com/wilders/petition-sign.html 
I am petitioner # 18153. At least you and I still have the freedom to make that decision. Please consider passing his along to people you know. Feel free to copy it and make changes where needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m sending this e-mail to everyone I know in the hope that it will be acted upon. Briefly, it concerns the impending punishment of Geert Wilders, a member of the Dutch Parliament. The Netherlands, like England and many other European countries have opened their doors to immigrants. Many of these immigrates have been Muslim. Instead of assimilating to their host county, they have, in many cases, demanded that their beliefs take precedence over their host countries laws or customs. This, of course, has caused tension. Geert Wilders is being prosecuted by the Dutch government because the Muslim guests do not like his belief that immigrants should assimilate to their host county instead of the other way around. This link is his crime:<br />
<a href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020472.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/020472.php</a><br />
It is a 15 minute video called “Fitna”. It speaks for itself. We are comfortable here in the United States. We are sheltered, isolated from the atrocities we see and hear about on T.V. and what we read about in newspapers or the Internet. It is easy to agree with something I know in my heart and mind is right and yet not act upon it, because I’m comfortable and it’s the easier thing to do. I can’t do it anymore. I won’t do it anymore. Please watch the video. If you agree with what you’ve watched, please sign the petition in defense of Geert Wilders:<br />
<a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/wilders/petition-sign.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.petitiononline.com/wilders/petition-sign.html</a><br />
I am petitioner # 18153. At least you and I still have the freedom to make that decision. Please consider passing his along to people you know. Feel free to copy it and make changes where needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Cejac1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>History is doomed to repeat itself.
Until we all lose our freedom to be something different from Islam, the people will realize the dangers of Islamization. Muslim that believe In ISlamization are cleverly tantalizing our effort to protect any hatred towards any cultural religious or racial conducts by claiming and questioning our conduct towards theirs and not allowing ours towards theirs. I am deeply shocked. Either the Netherlands are having serious problems with their Muslim population or they have failed to protect those that are not Muslims.
I personally do no have a problem with Muslims being Muslims. I have a problem with those who want our Western society to respect their religion in ways they will ban alcohol, pork and anything that is offensive to their faith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>History is doomed to repeat itself.<br />
Until we all lose our freedom to be something different from Islam, the people will realize the dangers of Islamization. Muslim that believe In ISlamization are cleverly tantalizing our effort to protect any hatred towards any cultural religious or racial conducts by claiming and questioning our conduct towards theirs and not allowing ours towards theirs. I am deeply shocked. Either the Netherlands are having serious problems with their Muslim population or they have failed to protect those that are not Muslims.<br />
I personally do no have a problem with Muslims being Muslims. I have a problem with those who want our Western society to respect their religion in ways they will ban alcohol, pork and anything that is offensive to their faith</p>
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		<title>By: CaringMom46</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaringMom46</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 03:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a huge difference between believing something and acting on something. Between publishing one&#039;s opinions and, for instance, hitting someone in the face. The former should be legal in virtually all cases; the latter should not. 

Americans do not understand the absence of freedom of expression in Europe. While we have much to improve, we love our First Amendment. I would recommend it to everyone. It makes for a rather messy society, but not a repressive one. I&#039;ll take messy any day over repressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a huge difference between believing something and acting on something. Between publishing one&#8217;s opinions and, for instance, hitting someone in the face. The former should be legal in virtually all cases; the latter should not. </p>
<p>Americans do not understand the absence of freedom of expression in Europe. While we have much to improve, we love our First Amendment. I would recommend it to everyone. It makes for a rather messy society, but not a repressive one. I&#8217;ll take messy any day over repressive.</p>
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