Comments on: Middle East: Boycott as a Political Weapon http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/22/middle-east-boycott-as-a-political-weapon/ The world is talking. Are you listening? Wed, 30 May 2012 07:14:07 -0400 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Akhanton http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/22/middle-east-boycott-as-a-political-weapon/comment-page-3/#comment-1549181 Akhanton Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:13:26 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55707#comment-1549181 http://www.inminds.co.uk/boycott-israel.php How many times we cried while watching the news, how much anger we kept inside our chests because of this world of tyrants, we could not answer our children when they asked us about the meaning of justice, honor, truth and freedom. Tears and prayers is all what we offered. The tyrants watched the massacres with a hidden smile, and big time silence. Blood shed, children & women screaming & hands stained with bloods . On the other bank a slaughter house that offers free blood stain removal , out side it all the tyrants were fighting, every one wanted to be served first . The prime minister of the slaughter house went to see them, asked them to stop fighting so he can show them how to remove the blood stain from of their hands; they listened to prime Minster, their only friend. Who said “’ 60 years ago when my grand fathers established our slaughtering house, they knew that every citizen in our slaughtering house would have a bloody hands, so they invented a secret formula , they mixed it with the only thing that we worship , I’m sorry dear friends , this is high season for my business, I’m out of stock , across the street my brother’s exchange, there you can get as much money as you need ,once you dry your hands with our banknote the blood would disappear , one last thing please keep our city tidy and take the bloody banknote with you , or donate it to your poor brothers , so they can build their bloody city again ‘’ The tyrants followed his instructions, their hands became clean again, they thanked him, and left the slaughter house with all the bloody money, they stopped by their poor brothers and gave them their bloody donations What a shame! What a bloody truth! Neither you nor I want to have hands stained with blood; we are one of the few people who can define honor, freedom and dignity. We can make a change Because we don’t belong to the tyrants nor to the slaughter house We promise, we will not send any donation to Israel We will boycott all the Israeli products Allah will be watching us, his angels will be smiling . The Palestinian children & widows will dry their tears. No more F 16, no tanks, no bloodshed, We will laugh at Slaughterhouse bankruptcy http://www.inminds.co.uk/boycott-israel.php Please feel free to forward this info to any one who knows the meaning of Honor & Justice http://www.inminds.co.uk/boycott-israel.php

How many times we cried while watching the news, how much anger we kept inside our chests because of this world of tyrants, we could not answer our children when they asked us about the meaning of justice, honor, truth and freedom. Tears and prayers is all what we offered. The tyrants watched the massacres with a hidden smile, and big time silence. Blood shed, children & women screaming & hands stained with bloods . On the other bank a slaughter house that offers free blood stain removal , out side it all the tyrants were fighting, every one wanted to be served first . The prime minister of the slaughter house went to see them, asked them to stop fighting so he can show them how to remove the blood stain from of their hands; they listened to prime Minster, their only friend. Who said “’ 60 years ago when my grand fathers established our slaughtering house, they knew that every citizen in our slaughtering house would have a bloody hands, so they invented a secret formula , they mixed it with the only thing that we worship , I’m sorry dear friends , this is high season for my business, I’m out of stock , across the street my brother’s exchange, there you can get as much money as you need ,once you dry your hands with our banknote the blood would disappear , one last thing please keep our city tidy and take the bloody banknote with you , or donate it to your poor brothers , so they can build their bloody city again ‘’
The tyrants followed his instructions, their hands became clean again, they thanked him, and left the slaughter house with all the bloody money, they stopped by their poor brothers and gave them their bloody donations

What a shame! What a bloody truth!

Neither you nor I want to have hands stained with blood; we are one of the few people who can define honor, freedom and dignity.
We can make a change
Because we don’t belong to the tyrants nor to the slaughter house
We promise, we will not send any donation to Israel
We will boycott all the Israeli products
Allah will be watching us, his angels will be smiling .
The Palestinian children & widows will dry their tears.
No more F 16, no tanks, no bloodshed,
We will laugh at
Slaughterhouse bankruptcy

http://www.inminds.co.uk/boycott-israel.php

Please feel free to forward this info to any one who knows the meaning of Honor & Justice

]]> By: ravi http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/22/middle-east-boycott-as-a-political-weapon/comment-page-2/#comment-1549175 ravi Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:09:55 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55707#comment-1549175 dear robby, our argument can carry on till the stars fall out of the sky. my view, as a distant observer of the mid east mess is not one of taking sides.. it objective.im not a jew, or muslim, arab or american, have had almost nothing to do with the people and the region, the mid east question has no bearing on my country... then why do i have the views i have? im a normal human being... and like other ordinary people im sickened by what israel has become today, very much like the arabs... or worse. there was a time when i was a 100% supporter of israel..... no longer. ariel sharon put paid to that support. today im 100% anti what israel has become today. israels survival depends on "acceptance" by the pals and arabs at large.... israel has done everything to enlarge the swamp of hatred its creation itself created. how on earth is it going to drain this swamp? by military force and killing kids? israel needs to drop its arrogance and understand the realities on the ground, adjust and cut the best possible deal for survival... forget about "searing defeat" on the pali mind... wont work dear robby,
our argument can carry on till the stars fall out of the sky. my view, as a distant observer of the mid east mess is not one of taking sides.. it objective.im not a jew, or muslim, arab or american, have had almost nothing to do with the people and the region, the mid east question has no bearing on my country… then why do i have the views i have? im a normal human being… and like other ordinary people im sickened by what israel has become today, very much like the arabs… or worse.
there was a time when i was a 100% supporter of israel….. no longer. ariel sharon put paid to that support. today im 100% anti what israel has become today.
israels survival depends on “acceptance” by the pals and arabs at large…. israel has done everything to enlarge the swamp of hatred its creation itself created. how on earth is it going to drain this swamp? by military force and killing kids? israel needs to drop its arrogance and understand the realities on the ground, adjust and cut the best possible deal for survival… forget about “searing defeat” on the pali mind… wont work

]]> By: Robby http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/22/middle-east-boycott-as-a-political-weapon/comment-page-2/#comment-1549055 Robby Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:29:00 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55707#comment-1549055 Ravi - Israel has to recognize HAMAS, and both sides can set preconditions, of course. Please tell me if you have read of any preconditions from HAMAS, as I’ve not read of any other then the destruction of Israel. Negotiations have been going on for the last month, thru Egypt, and neither side has budged. You may be right about unconditional negotiations, but I doubt either side will agree. HAMAS was elected, but what has that got to do with Israel, the US, the EU, or anyone else? Once again, don’t forget it was HAMAS that turned down normalization because they refused to recognize Israel. BTW - Iran’s regime was elected, as was Hitler and Mussolini. So are you saying you do not accept the Saudi peace plan? Because the deal offered to Arafat is strikingly close. What do you think Israel should do for the refugees? A recent study (I can’t find the link) showed less then 10 percent would want to settle in Israel, which is understandable. About half wanted to settle in the country they were in, but most of them were in Jordan, again, no surprise. BTW – the plan Arafat turned down offered $35 billion to help with the refugees. In case you didn’t know, the US is the biggest contributor to the UNRWA. Ravi –

Israel has to recognize HAMAS, and both sides can set preconditions, of course. Please tell me if you have read of any preconditions from HAMAS, as I’ve not read of any other then the destruction of Israel. Negotiations have been going on for the last month, thru Egypt, and neither side has budged. You may be right about unconditional negotiations, but I doubt either side will agree.

HAMAS was elected, but what has that got to do with Israel, the US, the EU, or anyone else? Once again, don’t forget it was HAMAS that turned down normalization because they refused to recognize Israel. BTW – Iran’s regime was elected, as was Hitler and Mussolini.

So are you saying you do not accept the Saudi peace plan? Because the deal offered to Arafat is strikingly close.

What do you think Israel should do for the refugees? A recent study (I can’t find the link) showed less then 10 percent would want to settle in Israel, which is understandable. About half wanted to settle in the country they were in, but most of them were in Jordan, again, no surprise. BTW – the plan Arafat turned down offered $35 billion to help with the refugees. In case you didn’t know, the US is the biggest contributor to the UNRWA.

]]> By: ravi http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/22/middle-east-boycott-as-a-political-weapon/comment-page-2/#comment-1548979 ravi Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:37:05 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55707#comment-1548979 hamas has to recognise israel, renounce violence, or is that armed resistance.... and honour past agreements, which were never followed by the israelis in the first place. why is only hamas required to meet preconditions? what about israel stating its readiness to give up the settlement enterprise as a precondition?.. any answer? if israel cannot submit to any preconditions then perhaps starting unconditional talks may make it easier for hamas to accept israel. hamas has to recognize israel but israel will not recognize hamas , even it was the LEGALLY ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE? read the fine print in the deal arafat was offered... it stinks. doesnt israel have any moral reasponsiblity for the plight of the pal refugees?... the very people the stern and irgun terrorists ethnically cleansed from their homes of 2000 years? the american stooge arab govts like egypt, saudi, jordan are moral degenerates .... how very much they resemble israel..! hamas has to recognise israel, renounce violence, or is that armed resistance…. and honour past agreements, which were never followed by the israelis in the first place.
why is only hamas required to meet preconditions? what about israel stating its readiness to give up the settlement enterprise as a precondition?.. any answer? if israel cannot submit to any preconditions then perhaps starting unconditional talks may make it easier for hamas to accept israel. hamas has to recognize israel but israel will not recognize hamas , even it was the LEGALLY ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE?
read the fine print in the deal arafat was offered… it stinks.
doesnt israel have any moral reasponsiblity for the plight of the pal refugees?… the very people the stern and irgun terrorists ethnically cleansed from their homes of 2000 years?
the american stooge arab govts like egypt, saudi, jordan are moral degenerates …. how very much they resemble israel..!

]]> By: Badrul Islam http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/22/middle-east-boycott-as-a-political-weapon/comment-page-2/#comment-1548954 Badrul Islam Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:27:59 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55707#comment-1548954 Can anybody provide the websites that has statistics on the killingsn of Plalestinian by the Arabs and the reasonn for such activity. During the peace process an analysis of this will help to pressurize the Arabs to be first united preferably under Saudi Arabia leadership for only the solutions to Israel-Palestinian conflict- though as a whole the Iraq and Iran issue could also be included. If any bloggers here are journalists I would suggest tyhat they write articles in Arab Newspapers to encourage their Unity firt and then negotiate strongly for a peaceful settlement of Israel-Palestine conflict. Its sad to realize the reality that once Palestine Landed hadm multicultural peopulation- 86 % Muslims, 30 % christians and 10% Jews. The Zionists wanted to relocate to other lands and first Africs and America was under consideration but later due to i9nfluence of the Zionists they enered Palestine and gradually increased in mumber and with British aid--US then was notn involved- but later the Zionists and British influenced the US to support Israel citing their Nazi Holocast- So History is proof that Nazi Germans and Christians are their enemies not the Muslims. Strange now they wantn to drive our the orginal occupants,Palestinians and claim the whole land to be theirs. Now if all the Jews claim their right in Israel duen to religious reasons then this small place will become the fightimng p-lace between themselves. Therefore first requirement if Unity of Arabs and wisdom to negotiate with the West a Peaceful settlements where Isarelis presently living their will establish their homes but wioth the consent of the Paletinian ,Arabs etc and do economic activities not WAR. America and EU must stop supply of Arms and Israel should be warned not to further their nuclear facility. US is serious under President 0bama and so is the right time to be wise in dealings. Can anybody provide the websites that has statistics on the killingsn of Plalestinian by the Arabs and the reasonn for such activity. During the peace process an analysis of this will help to pressurize the Arabs to be first united preferably under Saudi Arabia leadership for only the solutions to Israel-Palestinian conflict- though as a whole the Iraq and Iran issue could also be included.
If any bloggers here are journalists I would suggest tyhat they write articles in Arab Newspapers to encourage their Unity firt and then negotiate strongly for a peaceful settlement of Israel-Palestine conflict.
Its sad to realize the reality that once Palestine Landed hadm multicultural peopulation- 86 % Muslims, 30 % christians and 10% Jews. The Zionists wanted to relocate to other lands and first Africs and America was under consideration but later due to i9nfluence of the Zionists they enered Palestine and gradually increased in mumber and with British aid–US then was notn involved- but later the Zionists and British influenced the US to support Israel citing their Nazi Holocast- So History is proof that Nazi Germans and Christians are their enemies not the Muslims. Strange now they wantn to drive our the orginal occupants,Palestinians and claim the whole land to be theirs. Now if all the Jews claim their right in Israel duen to religious reasons then this small place will become the fightimng p-lace between themselves.
Therefore first requirement if Unity of Arabs and wisdom to negotiate with the West a Peaceful settlements where Isarelis presently living their will establish their homes but wioth the consent of the Paletinian ,Arabs etc and do economic activities not WAR.
America and EU must stop supply of Arms and Israel should be warned not to further their nuclear facility.
US is serious under President 0bama and so is the right time to be wise in dealings.

]]> By: Robby http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/22/middle-east-boycott-as-a-political-weapon/comment-page-2/#comment-1548914 Robby Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:56:55 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55707#comment-1548914 Ravi – Hold on, you are putting words in my mouth. I did not say anyone was entitled to treat anyone poorly. No one should be killing anyone, it is wrong. My point is the same as yours, for 60 years the Arab world has treated the Palestinians badly. Is it fair to tell the Palestinians they will get to ‘return’ to a place they have never been, knowing very well it probably won’t happen? Have you seen the poverty of these refugee camps? If you are going to boycott Israel for its treatment of the Palestinians why not boycott those Arab countries that do the same? I support Israel’s right to exist, and I support a Palestinian state. I also think the Saudi peace plan, which is very close to what Arafat turned down, makes sense. Let’s hope that is the direction taken after the elections. From the beginning HAMAS was offered a non-violent starting point - Recognize Israel, denounce violence and honor past agreements. From what I have read HAMAS has not agreed to negotiate on any of these issues. I did read that HAMAS offered something like a 10 year treaty – but I wonder, why not make it permanent? Ravi –

Hold on, you are putting words in my mouth. I did not say anyone was entitled to treat anyone poorly. No one should be killing anyone, it is wrong.

My point is the same as yours, for 60 years the Arab world has treated the Palestinians badly. Is it fair to tell the Palestinians they will get to ‘return’ to a place they have never been, knowing very well it probably won’t happen? Have you seen the poverty of these refugee camps? If you are going to boycott Israel for its treatment of the Palestinians why not boycott those Arab countries that do the same?

I support Israel’s right to exist, and I support a Palestinian state. I also think the Saudi peace plan, which is very close to what Arafat turned down, makes sense. Let’s hope that is the direction taken after the elections.

From the beginning HAMAS was offered a non-violent starting point – Recognize Israel, denounce violence and honor past agreements. From what I have read HAMAS has not agreed to negotiate on any of these issues. I did read that HAMAS offered something like a 10 year treaty – but I wonder, why not make it permanent?

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Egyptians are Going Local http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/22/middle-east-boycott-as-a-political-weapon/comment-page-2/#comment-1548882 Global Voices Online » Egyptians are Going Local Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:56:44 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55707#comment-1548882 [...] is in the works in Egypt. Inji, an avid blogger and young economist who is distraught by the numerous emails and SMS messages calling for boycotting products decided to “boycott the boycott” and take it to a [...] [...] is in the works in Egypt. Inji, an avid blogger and young economist who is distraught by the numerous emails and SMS messages calling for boycotting products decided to “boycott the boycott” and take it to a [...]

]]> By: ravi http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/22/middle-east-boycott-as-a-political-weapon/comment-page-2/#comment-1548845 ravi Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:09:20 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55707#comment-1548845 dear robby, hamas doesnt agree to the 67 borders... hang on ... but didnt they say they were open to an open ended hudna if israel withdrew to the 67 borders? more than hamas its israel which is not willing to go back to the 67 borders... has even one israeli leader said so?.... then why reject the arab peace plan?... which offers just that. the arabs have been beastly towards the palestinians.... so does that entitle israel to kill palestinian kids as well? your reasoning and justification of israels savagery is sick. dear robby,
hamas doesnt agree to the 67 borders… hang on … but didnt they say they were open to an open ended hudna if israel withdrew to the 67 borders?
more than hamas its israel which is not willing to go back to the 67 borders… has even one israeli leader said so?…. then why reject the arab peace plan?… which offers just that.
the arabs have been beastly towards the palestinians…. so does that entitle israel to kill palestinian kids as well?
your reasoning and justification of israels savagery is sick.

]]> By: Robby http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/22/middle-east-boycott-as-a-political-weapon/comment-page-2/#comment-1548836 Robby Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:29:41 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55707#comment-1548836 Ravi - Yes, the 67 borders are a good basis for peace, we can hope that is the outcome. I don't think HAMAS agrees, do they? Palestine included Jordan as well, so I don't know if your 78 per cent is correct (no Jews were allowed in Jordan). Do you remember Black September? More Palestinians were killed in less then two weeks by the Jordanian military then the entire 60 year conflict between Israel and the Palestinians. How about Kuwait, 1990? Or Lebanon last year? Just google them and you will see, from Arab sources, how many Palestinians were killed, or cleansed (term used by Kuwaiti Emir) by Arab countries. Ravi – Yes, the 67 borders are a good basis for peace, we can hope that is the outcome. I don’t think HAMAS agrees, do they?

Palestine included Jordan as well, so I don’t know if your 78 per cent is correct (no Jews were allowed in Jordan).

Do you remember Black September? More Palestinians were killed in less then two weeks by the Jordanian military then the entire 60 year conflict between Israel and the Palestinians. How about Kuwait, 1990? Or Lebanon last year? Just google them and you will see, from Arab sources, how many Palestinians were killed, or cleansed (term used by Kuwaiti Emir) by Arab countries.

]]> By: ravi http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/22/middle-east-boycott-as-a-political-weapon/comment-page-2/#comment-1548768 ravi Tue, 27 Jan 2009 04:05:28 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55707#comment-1548768 dear robby, you said it. the arabs dont give a damn, and in any case why shouldnt the palestinians be allowed to have a home of their own? let alone inside what is today israel, it(israel) is not content with the 78% of palestine it has, but wants more of the west bank as well. why doesnt israel go back to the 677 borders in return for complete peace?... because of greed for land. another thing as the gaza killings showed... israel still hasnt got over the "searing defeat" on the pali mind policy created by the ultimate savage.. sharon. state israels readiness to go back to the 67 borders and sit back.... peace will come much quicker than expected dear robby,
you said it. the arabs dont give a damn, and in any case why shouldnt the palestinians be allowed to have a home of their own?
let alone inside what is today israel, it(israel) is not content with the 78% of palestine it has, but wants more of the west bank as well.
why doesnt israel go back to the 677 borders in return for complete peace?… because of greed for land.
another thing as the gaza killings showed… israel still hasnt got over the “searing defeat” on the pali mind policy created by the ultimate savage.. sharon.
state israels readiness to go back to the 67 borders and sit back…. peace will come much quicker than expected

]]> By: Robby http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/22/middle-east-boycott-as-a-political-weapon/comment-page-2/#comment-1548762 Robby Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:53:05 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55707#comment-1548762 Stan R - So many people claim they care about the Palestinians, but only show it when Israel is the alleged perpetrator. It seems so hypocritical. Stan R –

So many people claim they care about the Palestinians, but only show it when Israel is the alleged perpetrator.

It seems so hypocritical.

]]> By: Stan R http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/22/middle-east-boycott-as-a-political-weapon/comment-page-1/#comment-1548708 Stan R Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:06:33 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55707#comment-1548708 Roby: Because Ravi is not interested in solution. Look in Gaza, they still have a refugee camps and welfare depedancy on UN and Israel. The Hamas spends millions on arms but did not spend any monies to support Gaza citizens. Who ever tells you they dont have any monies. It's lie! Now they are spending 54 millions to keep themself in the power and that's just drop of their cash reserve. Roby:
Because Ravi is not interested in solution. Look in Gaza, they still have a refugee camps and welfare depedancy on UN and Israel. The Hamas spends millions on arms but did not spend any monies to support Gaza citizens. Who ever tells you they dont have any monies. It’s lie! Now they are spending 54 millions to keep themself in the power and that’s just drop of their cash reserve.

]]> By: Robby http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/22/middle-east-boycott-as-a-political-weapon/comment-page-1/#comment-1548680 Robby Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:31:08 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55707#comment-1548680 Ravi - Your solution is not reasonable, for multiple reasons. If you care about the Palestinians why wouldn't you want the 3rd generation (and beyond) of refugees be set free? Why would you support the terrible treatment they get by their own Arab brothers? The idea of handing refugee status down from generation to generation is cruel. Ravi –

Your solution is not reasonable, for multiple reasons.

If you care about the Palestinians why wouldn’t you want the 3rd generation (and beyond) of refugees be set free? Why would you support the terrible treatment they get by their own Arab brothers?

The idea of handing refugee status down from generation to generation is cruel.

]]> By: Badrul Islam http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/22/middle-east-boycott-as-a-political-weapon/comment-page-1/#comment-1548634 Badrul Islam Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:37:35 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55707#comment-1548634 Boycot of goods wouldnt help much--m what should be immediately practiced areb policies tom first enhance Education, Agricultural and Industrial policy and good foreign policy between neighbouring Countries. Israel has nuclear facilities and good quality arms and ammunition all supplied by US n EU Countries but the Arab Countries have not this facility nor have armaments factory for manufacturing the armaments-- it is soley dependent on US for food and industrial goods and armaments-- time now to reverse the deals with US in exchange of 0il-- start building infrastructures that woukld lessen dependency on US n EU Countries. Boycot of goods wouldnt help much–m what should be immediately practiced areb policies tom first enhance Education, Agricultural and Industrial policy and good foreign policy between neighbouring Countries.
Israel has nuclear facilities and good quality arms and ammunition all supplied by US n EU Countries but the Arab Countries have not this facility nor have armaments factory for manufacturing the armaments– it is soley dependent on US for food and industrial goods and armaments– time now to reverse the deals with US in exchange of 0il– start building infrastructures that woukld lessen dependency on US n EU Countries.

]]> By: ravi http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/22/middle-east-boycott-as-a-political-weapon/comment-page-1/#comment-1548621 ravi Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:31:25 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55707#comment-1548621 yes robby, the palestinians have become todays jews, israel is the nazi, the arab world doesnt give a damn and the us allows israel to kill with impunity. whats the answer?... allow the palestinians to go back home. for that to happen israel has to be brought to heel, and punished for ethnic cleansing and the land grab. only right thinking people the world over can do it... by making their voice heard, boycott everything israeli and boycott all those who support israels savagery yes robby,
the palestinians have become todays jews, israel is the nazi, the arab world doesnt give a damn and the us allows israel to kill with impunity.
whats the answer?… allow the palestinians to go back home.
for that to happen israel has to be brought to heel, and punished for ethnic cleansing and the land grab.
only right thinking people the world over can do it… by making their voice heard, boycott everything israeli and boycott all those who support israels savagery

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