Manuk

In journalistic terms, however, the way countries and people are referred to is particularly important. First of all does citizenship come over nationality? Azerbaijan is not a mono-ethnic country, for example.

So, Azerbaijan is the country name, Azerbaijanis are the citizens, and these are legally and constitutionally referred to terms. The is no mention of Azeri-Turk in the Azerbaijani Constitution, for example.

Azeri is an ethnic term. however, and both phrases referred to have more to do with national ideology among small pockets of the population rather than the masses. The term is also necessary to differentiate between ethnic Azeris in, say, Iran, and citizens of Azerbaijan.

Now, if you were writing an academic study on the ethnic origins of a nation, it would perhaps be different. Nevertheless, such phrases used in the context that they were are intended to perpetuate conflict than resolve it.

The same with Armenians referring to “Armenified Jews” (of which some, like the Union of Armenian Aryans, say most of the population of the Republic are.

These are nationalist slogans and, as you might have noticed, are not used by the established, mainstream international media, or even used by the local media. Anyway, I’ve said my piece, everyone else has said theirs.

We will all just agree to differ, but I would point you in the direction of this video by now imprisoned video blogging youth activist Adnan Hajizade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiZ7g7oXBjA

As many other Turks, me as an Azerbaijani Turk, has never denied that there were not massacares of Armenians. But these massacares never were larger than massacares of Turkey Turks or Azerbaijanis Turks. Therefore, the 1915 massacare of Armenians that Armenians especially love to refer, was also a response to massacares of more than half million Turkey and Azerbaiajni Turks killed barbarically by Armenians. The peace in the region does not depend on elimination of nationalism in the region. Because even with nationalism as you can see Onnik we, Georgian, Dagestanis and others do not have any problem living side by side and respecting others’ rights. The peace largely depends on Armenians coming to peace with their unpleasant and fully of lie past and respecting the rights of others for existence and living in the territories their grandfatehrs have been living for hundreds of years.

As to the claims of Armenians that these territories or the entire world were theirs, neither God (Allah) nor anyone else did not promise any land to anybody. Secondaly, if we take the evolutionary theory as the basis then all people came to somewhere from somewhere, which include armenians too (who claims that their hisotry goes back to millions of years back going as far as claiming that Adam was as Armenian :-))) ).

Therefore as long as armenian continue to believe in lies that their church and intelligentzia have invented to keep armenians mobilized and to ensure your political unity and as long as this mobilization and unity takes place at the expense of invented, developed, maintained and deepened hater to Turks including Azerbaijani Turks, there will never be the peace in the region.

I do not exclude the fact that in some 50 or 100 years from now if the Karabakh territories are not liberated my sons will be fighting your sons. You may ask why 50 -100 years from now on, because by that time neither US nor Europe will be the same and Armenia will never be able to command so much support from the West through your diasporas and prostitute politicians in US and Europe exploiting christian solidairty too.

Atilla

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Only thing is, Sedrak, will you drink with and talk to a “pseudo-liberal?” ;-)

Gunel, have to be honest, I consider myself a British citizen first and foremost. My mother is English and my father is ethnic Armenian born in Greece. That might get the hairs of some standing on end now, but an interesting story: when the bodyguards of oligarchs beat journalists covering opposition rallies in Yerevan in 2004 I was one of those attacked.

So, an independent TV company called me in for an interview and what was the first question they asked about the violence directed against the media without any police intervention? Can you believe it was “Onnik, you’ve been living here now for 6 years. Do you consider yourself Hayastantsi (local Armenian) or Diasporan?”

After I managed to stop myself from looking at the interviewer in total confusion there was only one thing I could answer. “I consider myself a person…” When even ethnic Armenians divide and discriminate against each other it just gets totally ridiculous. This, in my opinion, is the nature of ethnic politics and nationalism. This is the absurdity of it all.

Obama is citizen of the US being ethnic Kenian. Armenian brought up in the US is a citizen of the USA being ethnic Armenian. Just like people living in Azerbaijan are citizens of Azerbaijan being ethnic Turks. And no doubt about it.