Comments on: The Balkans: “Whose Is This Song?” http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/20/balkans-whose-is-this-song/ The world is talking. Are you listening? Tue, 14 Feb 2012 23:04:52 -0500 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: gjosu http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/20/balkans-whose-is-this-song/comment-page-2/#comment-1618608 gjosu Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:52:27 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55649#comment-1618608 @4Rs and Makedonomahos You didn't learn a single thing from this documentary, did you? Btw, the Macedonian musician was the ONLY ONE who said that the song probably wasn't Macedonian originally. All the others were trying to lynch Adela. I feel sad for you. @4Rs and Makedonomahos

You didn’t learn a single thing from this documentary, did you?

Btw, the Macedonian musician was the ONLY ONE who said that the song probably wasn’t Macedonian originally. All the others were trying to lynch Adela. I feel sad for you.

]]> By: Emre http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/20/balkans-whose-is-this-song/comment-page-2/#comment-1616113 Emre Sat, 13 Feb 2010 22:45:11 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55649#comment-1616113 This documantery was very nice I would like to thank a lot who prepare it. By the way I understand why the bulgarians wants to ban Turkish news on their TV. I can not say that all bulgarians are the same but I have imagine them just like in the movie acourding to them there is two nation bulgarian and others. same for the serbs racist people. Style of them ''I know all'' if any other claims that they are all wrong. After whatcing all video I belive this is our song ''Balkans'' From Turkey to Albania,Serbia,Bosnia,Bulgaria,Greece and all other balkan nations. This documantery was very nice I would like to thank a lot who prepare it.

By the way I understand why the bulgarians wants to ban Turkish news on their TV. I can not say that all bulgarians are the same but I have imagine them just like in the movie acourding to them there is two nation bulgarian and others. same for the serbs racist people. Style of them ”I know all” if any other claims that they are all wrong.

After whatcing all video I belive this is our song ”Balkans” From Turkey to Albania,Serbia,Bosnia,Bulgaria,Greece and all other balkan nations.

]]> By: Emre http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/20/balkans-whose-is-this-song/comment-page-2/#comment-1616091 Emre Sat, 13 Feb 2010 19:07:35 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55649#comment-1616091 This song is %100 Turkish song even those who have this song in their language Greek,Serbs,Bulgars it wouldn't change it as all those nations been living under the Turkish Government for ages. Please dont be funny. This song is %100 Turkish song even those who have this song in their language Greek,Serbs,Bulgars it wouldn’t change it as all those nations been living under the Turkish Government for ages.

Please dont be funny.

]]> By: Makedonomahos http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/20/balkans-whose-is-this-song/comment-page-2/#comment-1615267 Makedonomahos Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:20:17 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55649#comment-1615267 Macedonia=GREEK since 2500 B.C. FYROM (Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) has nothing to do with real Macedonia that is part of Greece and part of the Greek civilisation. No change of name of FYROM=No entry in EU and NATO of FYROM Macedonia=GREEK since 2500 B.C.

FYROM (Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) has nothing to do with real Macedonia that is part of Greece and part of the Greek civilisation.

No change of name of FYROM=No entry in EU and NATO of FYROM

]]> By: 4Rs http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/20/balkans-whose-is-this-song/comment-page-2/#comment-1608694 4Rs Sun, 03 Jan 2010 07:29:44 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55649#comment-1608694 It's funny how an unrecognised FYROM (former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) try to claim whatever they can even music which clearly doesn't belong to them for the sake of creating some sort of history for world wide recognition. To all the FYROM bloggers you can't claim history, it actually has to have happened - Doh ! It’s funny how an unrecognised FYROM (former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) try to claim whatever they can even music which clearly doesn’t belong to them for the sake of creating some sort of history for world wide recognition. To all the FYROM bloggers you can’t claim history, it actually has to have happened – Doh !

]]> By: Niko http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/20/balkans-whose-is-this-song/comment-page-1/#comment-1604496 Niko Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:15:49 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55649#comment-1604496 Ahmed Karim A Turk talking about Serbian hate? How about recognizing the Armenian genocide. Tell me how many Christians are there left in Turkey? People living in glass houses should be wary of throwing stones. Ahmed Karim

A Turk talking about Serbian hate? How about recognizing the Armenian genocide. Tell me how many Christians are there left in Turkey? People living in glass houses should be wary of throwing stones.

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Featured Author: Elena Ignatova http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/20/balkans-whose-is-this-song/comment-page-1/#comment-1600998 Global Voices Online » Featured Author: Elena Ignatova Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:18:36 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55649#comment-1600998 [...] we mention in the interview are: Macedonia: Use Facebook If You Want to Flirt With Politicians, The Balkans: “Whose Is This Song?”, and Macedonia: Student Protest Ends in [...] [...] we mention in the interview are: Macedonia: Use Facebook If You Want to Flirt With Politicians, The Balkans: “Whose Is This Song?”, and Macedonia: Student Protest Ends in [...]

]]> By: Bosanceros http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/20/balkans-whose-is-this-song/comment-page-1/#comment-1600749 Bosanceros Wed, 18 Nov 2009 06:46:15 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55649#comment-1600749 The only reason the Serbian people reacted to the "Bosnian" song Adela Peeva played to them was because it's an Islamic song associated with jihad and militant Islam, just as the Dervish in Macedonia said. It has nothing to do with Bosnia. Had she played the real Bosnian version "Oj djevojko Anadolko" the reaction wouldn't have been the same, as it's almost identical to the Serbian version. This is the song she played to them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBTqWgrsDds The only reason the Serbian people reacted to the “Bosnian” song Adela Peeva played to them was because it’s an Islamic song associated with jihad and militant Islam, just as the Dervish in Macedonia said. It has nothing to do with Bosnia.
Had she played the real Bosnian version “Oj djevojko Anadolko” the reaction wouldn’t have been the same, as it’s almost identical to the Serbian version.

This is the song she played to them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBTqWgrsDds

]]> By: El Oso » Archive » Interview with Elena Ignatova of Metamorphosis http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/20/balkans-whose-is-this-song/comment-page-1/#comment-1600632 El Oso » Archive » Interview with Elena Ignatova of Metamorphosis Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:58:45 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55649#comment-1600632 [...] we mention in the interview are: Macedonia: Use Facebook If You Want to Flirt With Politicians, The Balkans: “Whose Is This Song?”, and Macedonia: Student Protest Ends in [...] [...] we mention in the interview are: Macedonia: Use Facebook If You Want to Flirt With Politicians, The Balkans: “Whose Is This Song?”, and Macedonia: Student Protest Ends in [...]

]]> By: Ahmed Karim http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/20/balkans-whose-is-this-song/comment-page-1/#comment-1583525 Ahmed Karim Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:02:13 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55649#comment-1583525 I too have heard teh story that this tune originated from people in Istanbul who were listening to a Scottish regiment's band playing it. But that was in 1853, during the Crimean War. Difficult to tell, for the Turkish version "Katibim" I have is from 1949 by Safiye Ayla (on "MAsters of Turkish Music Vol.2; Rounder CD 1111; USA). Then I have a version from Serbia (I think; it says "FYROM" on the CD but the language is definitely NOT Macedonian) "Ruse kose curo imas" by Zorka Drebetic' possibly also from the late 1940s-early 1950s; On "Music of the Balkans Vol.1; FM Records FM 706 (Greece). Finally, one from Bosnia "Haj oj djevojko Anadolko" by the renowned singer of Sevdalinke Himzo Polovina, probably from the early 1970s; on: "Kradem ti se u veceri"; Naraton NTCD002; Bosnia-Herzegovina. And from the text, both the Bosnian and the Serbian are almost identical, only that in Bosnia it seems they sing it with an additional first verse (which could have been added by Himzo Polovina himself). What really disgusted me was the reaction by those Serbs from Vranje, and from these Bulgarian hooligans. History can't explain or justify that pathologic, sick, mean, evil, foul, murderous, grotesque hatred of everything Turkish, Bosniak and Muslim. I for one do, after that, feel less and less sympathy and comprehension for those people. On one hand it was a typical "shoot the messenger" thing. On the other hand, I don't get it. There have been incredibly bloody wars in Europe and yet, Germans do not for the most hate French or British or vice versa. But these people do hate each other for events which happened centuries ago. Well, if I understood it I think I would hate them more, because they say that to understand is to forgive, but sometimes the better one understands something the more one hates it. I would not go there if they invited me, thank you very much! The Bosniaks were the only ones honest about the origin of that song, and what is it of they made a religious hymn out of it? The Serbs did much worse things in Bosnia, and instead of being ashamed of them they brag about them! And threaten to do more of teh same! Time they were taught a thorough and very painful and lasting lesson in humility and finally rendered harmless to their neighbors! And I do feel symapathy for all Serbs who are not like that. For they are seen as traitors by all the others. I too have heard teh story that this tune originated from people in Istanbul who were listening to a Scottish regiment’s band playing it. But that was in 1853, during the Crimean War. Difficult to tell, for the Turkish version “Katibim” I have is from 1949 by Safiye Ayla (on “MAsters of Turkish Music Vol.2; Rounder CD 1111; USA). Then I have a version from Serbia (I think; it says “FYROM” on the CD but the language is definitely NOT Macedonian) “Ruse kose curo imas” by Zorka Drebetic’ possibly also from the late 1940s-early 1950s; On “Music of the Balkans Vol.1; FM Records FM 706 (Greece). Finally, one from Bosnia “Haj oj djevojko Anadolko” by the renowned singer of Sevdalinke Himzo Polovina, probably from the early 1970s; on: “Kradem ti se u veceri”; Naraton NTCD002; Bosnia-Herzegovina. And from the text, both the Bosnian and the Serbian are almost identical, only that in Bosnia it seems they sing it with an additional first verse (which could have been added by Himzo Polovina himself).
What really disgusted me was the reaction by those Serbs from Vranje, and from these Bulgarian hooligans. History can’t explain or justify that pathologic, sick, mean, evil, foul, murderous, grotesque hatred of everything Turkish, Bosniak and Muslim. I for one do, after that, feel less and less sympathy and comprehension for those people. On one hand it was a typical “shoot the messenger” thing. On the other hand, I don’t get it. There have been incredibly bloody wars in Europe and yet, Germans do not for the most hate French or British or vice versa. But these people do hate each other for events which happened centuries ago. Well, if I understood it I think I would hate them more, because they say that to understand is to forgive, but sometimes the better one understands something the more one hates it. I would not go there if they invited me, thank you very much! The Bosniaks were the only ones honest about the origin of that song, and what is it of they made a religious hymn out of it? The Serbs did much worse things in Bosnia, and instead of being ashamed of them they brag about them! And threaten to do more of teh same! Time they were taught a thorough and very painful and lasting lesson in humility and finally rendered harmless to their neighbors! And I do feel symapathy for all Serbs who are not like that. For they are seen as traitors by all the others.

]]> By: v http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/20/balkans-whose-is-this-song/comment-page-1/#comment-1579845 v Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:16:52 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55649#comment-1579845 I'm a Macedonian Bulgarian and this song sounds like Boney M.'s Rasputin to me :-) I’m a Macedonian Bulgarian and this song sounds like Boney M.’s Rasputin to me :-)

]]> By: SONG http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/20/balkans-whose-is-this-song/comment-page-1/#comment-1571664 SONG Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:54:03 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55649#comment-1571664 Dear Brigit Wehnert, You could order the DVD of \Whose is This Song\ (English subtitles) directly from us. Please write using the following e-mail address: adelamedia@adelamedia.net Adela PEEVA Producer/director Slobodan Milovanovic Executive producer Dear Brigit Wehnert,

You could order the DVD of \Whose is This Song\ (English subtitles) directly from us.
Please write using the following e-mail address: adelamedia@adelamedia.net

Adela PEEVA
Producer/director

Slobodan Milovanovic
Executive producer

]]> By: tayfun http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/20/balkans-whose-is-this-song/comment-page-1/#comment-1570068 tayfun Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:33:06 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55649#comment-1570068 Wow, superb, magnifique, harika. I'm lost for words. I am Turkish and I love this song. I never knew it was known outside Turkey and this documentary made me realize just how similar people and cultures are. It makes me want to go backpacking around the Balkans. Good job! Oh and regarding the hatred and nationalism in people, I believe most people are good and I hope they will be making this world a better place. Wow, superb, magnifique, harika. I’m lost for words.

I am Turkish and I love this song. I never knew it was known outside Turkey and this documentary made me realize just how similar people and cultures are. It makes me want to go backpacking around the Balkans. Good job!

Oh and regarding the hatred and nationalism in people, I believe most people are good and I hope they will be making this world a better place.

]]> By: Ufogorenmasumciftci http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/20/balkans-whose-is-this-song/comment-page-1/#comment-1558390 Ufogorenmasumciftci Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:30:25 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55649#comment-1558390 Dear All According to its lyrics,this is a well-known Turkish-Song named "KATIBIM".Even a single word can proof that.If you look at the lyrics you can see the word "USKUDAR" which is one of the most popular neighbourhood right opposite the Maiden Tower at the Asian side of Istanbul. The lyrics had been written in the late Ottoman term by an unknown local artist.But it was not so popular at that time. But,suprisingly, the rythm is not Turkish. The rythm was first heard by a Scottish Military Band who came to Istanbul during British Military Parade at end of the WWI. At that time, the most of Turkish people was amazed by the members of band who were wearing skirts (kilt).So they could not pay attention to the rythm was playing by the Scottish Military Band. (except a few artists) This rythm became popular on a table clock imported from the U.K. as a gift. In conclusion, The rythm had came from an old Scottish National Anthem.The lyrics had been written by a local artist during end of the Ottoman Imperial. Since than this song has been singing by various Turkish Singers and Performers and also has been translated into hundreds of languages accross the world. It does not belong neither Bulgarian nor other Balkanians. Regards UFOGORENMASUMCIFTCI Dear All
According to its lyrics,this is a well-known Turkish-Song named “KATIBIM”.Even a single word can proof that.If you look at the lyrics you can see the word “USKUDAR” which is one of the most popular neighbourhood right opposite the Maiden Tower at the Asian side of Istanbul.
The lyrics had been written in the late Ottoman term by an unknown local artist.But it was not so popular at that time.
But,suprisingly, the rythm is not Turkish.
The rythm was first heard by a Scottish Military Band who came to Istanbul during British Military Parade at end of the WWI.
At that time, the most of Turkish people was amazed by the members of band who were wearing skirts (kilt).So they could not pay attention to the rythm was playing by the Scottish Military Band. (except a few artists)
This rythm became popular on a table clock imported from the U.K. as a gift.
In conclusion, The rythm had came from an old Scottish National Anthem.The lyrics had been written by a local artist during end of the Ottoman Imperial.
Since than this song has been singing by various Turkish Singers and Performers and also has been translated into hundreds of languages accross the world.
It does not belong neither Bulgarian nor other Balkanians.
Regards
UFOGORENMASUMCIFTCI

]]> By: Birgit Wehnert http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/01/20/balkans-whose-is-this-song/comment-page-1/#comment-1550812 Birgit Wehnert Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:26:38 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=55649#comment-1550812 I am looking out for this documentary in Germany. Is a DVD with English and/or German subtitles available? Thanks for information! I am looking out for this documentary in Germany. Is a DVD with English and/or German subtitles available?
Thanks for information!

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