Comments on: Palestine: “In Gaza our future is almost destroyed”

By: Manus-1

Manus-1 — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:38:58 +0000

@Lawrence of Arabia
Sorry Lawrence that was just a typo I meant to address the comment to Harold. However, there is a huge difference between Zionism and Neo-Zionism. Neo-Zionism is Semitism on a level with anti-Semitism. It is religious bigotry at its worst, and nationalism at its most xenophobic and racist form. I believe on a two state solution based on the 1967 green line border and UN resolutions. The question is peace feasible with an ethnocratic theocracy with universal suffrage Israeli political system that has nearly the quarter of its elected members in the Knesset from religious party. Will any type of coalition hold? Would the Israelis vote for a two state solution if a referendum take place? Would the Orthodox Jewish religious fanatics leave the land they occupied illigaly?

By: Lawrence of Arabia

Lawrence of Arabia — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:06:26 +0000

Actually Manus…what I have stated comes from the UN. Also what I stated was in no way a Neo-Zionist belief. I understand maybe what you want is all of Palestine for Muslims. It is just not gonna happen at this point. I admitted several things in my posting. One. This shoudl have never been allowed to happen this way (Israel). The powers that be made decisions based on constituents who are or were Jews, and these nations had very small Arab populations. That being said we are in 2008 not 1947. There are things that are not likely. As such since the UN in all practicality still has the mandate they need to to stop playing around and get both sides back to PRE-1967 borders, establish a Palestinian state, and admit both sides to the UN. I am afraid I do not see the Zionism.

By: Yamou

Yamou — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:57:24 +0000

I cannot beleive that someone pretend to write a letter to India’s PM explaining the massacres of Mumbay as similar to those of Gaza and the culprits are the US and Israel. I cannot believe it. Either people are arrogant or blantly misguided by their self-hatred and playing the victimization game.

Where does this world is leading us? Mumbay’s massacre reasons are the US and Israel foreign polocies. I am either hearing double or people are crazy and want us to beleive their twisted delusional ideas.

By: Abi Lami

Abi Lami — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:01:13 +0000

Kevin,

By identifieing your self from USA marine, It’s not a surprise. Look at what you have done and you are doing in IRAQ. AFGHANISTAN…Dumb ZIONIST.

By: kevin

kevin — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 06:10:47 +0000

I’m not jewish. I’m a christian but a usa marine and I stand by Isreal’s defence from dumb attacks of humas rockets.

By: Sadia masroor

Sadia masroor — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:45:55 +0000

To The Prime Minister of India and The UN Secretary General

Respected Sir,

I am writing this to you out of my deep concern and anguish over the loss of hundreds of innocent lives in Gaza during the unjustified attacks on its population.

This attack has reminded us of our own agony during the Mumbai terror attacks. Killings of these magnitude are alarmingly becoming frequent by the day.
Sir, please be firm in your position for Justice, and you will find the whole of India behind you.

Today we stand at a position where others can look up to India for help, and this position will remain as long as we Indians will come out for peace and oppose the attacks on innocents not just in India but anywhere in the world. In the case of Gaza too, with no country willing to stand firm against Israel in its unjust decision, we request you to do everything possible under your authority to convey the strongest sentiments that we Indians have for human lives to ensure world peace.

We would like to raise our strongest condemnation at the United Nations. We request the Government of India to immediately convey our call for bringing an end to these senseless killings in Gaza which is suffering from blatant violation of human rights.

The sane people of the world are aghast at the mute stance taken by major countries and the United Nations. Israel, USA, UK and their allies incessantly call for disarming nations fearing attacks on their civilians…but on the contrary it is these Superpowers that have carried & supported more bombings, killings & destruction than any weapon of mass destruction would have done( if it ever existed!), all in the pretext of “disarming” others! They call it an act of defense, when in fact its a wide campaign of terror against a whole population!

How do we explain ourselves?
The USA and Israel, both, have carried senseless attacks on civilians fearing attacks by the leader/ regime of that country! CAN someone actually murder people just because of an intuition or fear, with no evidence to justify their fear?

If this is so, then we Indians do get nightmares that USA will someday attack India’s sovereignty and the US president will not think twice before ordering his army of mercenaries to kill our countrymen!
Such a case, should my country too act just like America and Israel, and attack its population and destroy their nation in the name of defending the lives of Indians???
Will the United Nations be by our side as well, just like it is with the USA and Israel in their erroneous decision causing mayhem in current times?
As a matter of fact, India will never commit such acts of oppression against a civilian population.

It is distressing to see the United Nations Organization failing to take a truthful stand for what it exactly was established for – To Promote & Protect Peace, Justice and Global human rights!

Clearly, the purpose of UNO has strayed once again as it did earlier by its disastrous stance during the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan.
But we do hope the UNO will rise again, on its principles this time and when it does, the world will neither remain silent against oppression nor will it side with the oppressors.

We do hope our message reaches the UN Secretary General, Mr.Ban Ki-moon and the Indian representative at the UNO.

We stand by you in the campaign for peace as we stand in the campaign against terror.

By: Dörte

Dörte — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:05:07 +0000

Thank you, Freedom.
Let’s hope that the killings have not changed too much for the worse!

By: Manus

Manus — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:12:27 +0000

A quote for all my American friends:
“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free”
(by Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

By: Manus

Manus — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:03:41 +0000

We cannot equate what is happening in Palestine with what is happening in Israel. The Israeli cause is based mainly on the “Security” of its citizens on the southern border rational. However, the fight of the Palestinian people is an existential struggle; there combat is all about FREEDOM. Isn’t that the ideological export of consecutive US administrations or is it a selectively applied principal??!!
As far as the financial subsidising of Israel’s military and expansionist undertakings and an unwavering diplomatic and military cover, the US position is sadly irremediable. Unfortunately, the Americans tax payer money will only stop flowing to Israel when the Americans gain their independence from the pro-Israel lobbies and think tanks that have made kibbutzniks of most members of the executive and legislative branches of the government and literally own all mediums of media.

By: Freedom

Freedom — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:37:35 +0000

Dorte, I can agree with most all you have stated. I wish both but the very best for all the people in both Gaza and Israel.
I do hope that Hamas and Israel stop. It is a very sad situation for so many people on both sides and the killings are not going to change a thing.

By: Manus

Manus — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:14:55 +0000

… and for good measure some Israeli media:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=1034307

By: Manus

Manus — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:10:42 +0000

Spot on, see the 5Th November article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/05/israelandthepalestinians

By: Nosheen

Nosheen — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:33:28 +0000

What I don’t understand is why it is being said that Hamas broke the ceasefire by firing rockets on the 16th of December? This is WRONG! Israel broke the ceasefire by killing 6 Palestinians on the 5th of November. How convenient that the American election was taking place at this time and the eyes of the world were on that? The planning that has gone into this genocide is sickening. This is not war, these are war crimes! Israel is committing crimes against humanity and breaking numerous Geneva Conventions just for good measure. To name a few: Collective Punishment, Targeting civilians and disproportionate military response. When will the leaders of the world wake up? There is blood on all our hands

By: Dörte

Dörte — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:09:00 +0000

Manus, how nice that YOU are complaining about rambling.
Lawrence, I’m not sure how much the US support of Israel’s ideas of an ideal Palestine (= a few Bantustans) is changing. Perhaps it is. But we’ve got a financial crisis on, and the US have already two wars to pay for. Possibly they won’t spend too much money on Israel’s wars in future. Luckily wars are expensive.

By: Manus

Manus — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:07:07 +0000

Here we go again with “The politics of Anti-Semitism” and bogus historical revisionism Neo-Zionists resort to every time they commit war crimes.. The fact stays and remains that the Ideology of “Redeemed” land is so engraved in the ‘Jewish Ideology’ that the feasibility of a Palestinian state is nearly impossible . Israel has an ideologically motivated pursuit of territorial expansion and the inevitable series of wars resulting from this aim. A number of discrepant versions of Biblical borders of the Land of Israel, which rabbinical authorities interpret as ideally belonging to the Jewish state, are in circulation since the inception of Israel. What we see today is just what Golda Meir and Menuhin Begin promised many decades ago. In other words, Israel aims at imposing hegemony on other Middle Eastern states, by protecting the stability of some Arab regimes and guaranteeing the stability of the Middle East.
However, unbeknownst to most Americans and as described brilliantly by Robert Weitzel:

“According to a recent Amnesty International report, “In the first six months of 2008 Israel has expanded settlements in the West Bank/East Jerusalem at a faster rate than in the previous seven years.”
Unbeknownst to most Americans, Israel’s westernmost settlement is not located in Palestine-Israel, but is 6000 miles away on the high ground overlooking Foggy Bottom in Washington D.C.
This Capital Hill settlement of pro-Israel lobbies and think tanks strategically controls the high ground overlooking the United States’ Middle East policy landscape by having made kibbutzniks of most members of the executive and legislative branches of the government—including President-elect Obama, Vice President-elect Biden (a wannabe Zionist), and future Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel (a born Zionist).

While Israel’s hilltop settlements in the occupied territories—violating over 30 UN Security Council resolutions since 1968—are “facts on the ground” that make the two state peace solution unlikely, their hilltop settlement in the centre of the world’s only superpower makes it equally unlikely that Israel’s right-wing government will feel compelled to end their “self defensive” brutalization of the Palestinian people, which has been condemned by the international community (UN, EU) as crimes against humanity.”

This evil Hegelian dialectic will be defeated eventually, when the American people will wake-up and realise that the first victims of this evil ideology will be themselves.

“Machiavelli at least apologised for the methods which he thought necessary in politics. He regretted the necessity of force and fraud and did not call them by any other name. But Plato and More sanctified them, provided that they were used to sustain their own Utopian republics” (by Hugh Trevor-Roper on Sir Thomas More and Utopia)