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	<title>Comments on: Azerbaijan: Destruction of Ancient Cemetery Commemorated</title>
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		<title>By: Global Voices teny Malagasy &#187; Azerbaijan: Faharavan`ny kolontsaina</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/12/15/azerbaijan-destruction-of-ancient-cemetery-commemorated/comment-page-1/#comment-1544676</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices teny Malagasy &#187; Azerbaijan: Faharavan`ny kolontsaina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] momba ny fanapotehana ireo fasana fahagola Armenianina tao amin’ny faritr’I Nakhichevan no voalaza matetika, dia tsy dia fantatra loatra kosa ny fahaverezana ara-kolotoraly mianjady amin’ny Azaerbaijan [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] momba ny fanapotehana ireo fasana fahagola Armenianina tao amin’ny faritr’I Nakhichevan no voalaza matetika, dia tsy dia fantatra loatra kosa ny fahaverezana ara-kolotoraly mianjady amin’ny Azaerbaijan [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Azerbaijan: Cultural Destruction</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Azerbaijan: Cultural Destruction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] while the issue of the destruction of an ancient Armenian cemetery in the exclave of Nakhichevan is frequently raised, less is known about the cultural loss suffered by Azerbaijan. Gələcək Gün [AZ] details some of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] while the issue of the destruction of an ancient Armenian cemetery in the exclave of Nakhichevan is frequently raised, less is known about the cultural loss suffered by Azerbaijan. Gələcək Gün [AZ] details some of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Maghakyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Maghakyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Emil, the article is a roundup of what different blogs say about the 3rd anniversary of Djulfa’s destruction. If you see anger, that’s because the article reflects what other blogs are saying. In fact, every single blog post on Djulfa’s destruction I was able to find in the blogosphere has been reflected here. In other words, there has been no cherry-picking. In fact, I tried very hard to find recent Azeri posts but didn’t see anything. If you find some Azeri-language posts on Djulfa written this Fall, please e-mail it to me at info@blogian.net 

I do agree with you that oppression in Nakhichevan is not exclusively limited to Armenian heritage. I do know that the people of Nakhichevan are oppressed through human trafficking, freedom of speech restriction, and even with destruction of gathering places. I don’t know if you read my blog (www.blogian.net), but I have covered all of these topics. At http://blogian.hayastan.com/2007/12/09/azeris-tied-to-trees-for-not-paying-utility-bills/, for instance I mention how small tea-houses are destroyed in Nakhichevan to promote monopoly business. At http://blogian.hayastan.com/2007/11/20/our-azeri-sisters/, I discuss human trafficking of Azeri girls and women from Nakhichevan to Turkey and Azerbaijan. At http://blogian.hayastan.com/2008/12/08/azerbaijan-18-month-sentence-for-letters-to-government/, I report how an ordinary citizen in Nakhichevan has been arrested for writing anti-government letters. You can search other posts at www.blogian.net. 

I also agree that there has been vandalism against Azeri memory by the Azeri government in the name of business development. But you are wrong to suggest that “the purpose was not to destroy Armenian cemetry in Nakhichevan but other than that,like business or construction.” I don’t know how well you are aware of where Djulfa existed, but if you check out Google Earth (which shows the cemetery almost intact because the data is from 2003) you will see that the cemetery was in a remote region, surrounded by a lot more land that could have been used for “development.”(The image http://www.djulfa.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/google.JPG shows a 2003 Google Earth capture. The red circle is the cemetery. Only green areas are terrain inhabited by people. It makes no sense “developing” anything in a remote area far away from where people live. And if there is need to “develop” something, there are miles and miles of other similar terrains that don’t need to be “cleaned up” as opposed to a historic cemetery.  In fact, “development” doesn’t often happen in military zones especially on an international border. Furthermore, today the cemetery is a military shooting range with limited materials used (see photos at http://www.djulfa.com/photos/today/). Why would Azerbaijan’s government use so much energy and money (it took several cranes, trucks, weeks) to “convert” a historic cemetery in a remote area to a military shooting range? If your answer is “why not,” then my question is then why Azerbaijan 1) either denies that the cemetery didn’t exist in the first place or 2) says that even if the cemetery exists/existed it was never Armenian or 3) the destruction never happened. None of these make sense. 

I do commend you, though, for condemning the destruction. And I also agree that neither Armenia nor Azerbaijan is a democratic country. My question to you is what individual progressive Azeris such as yourself should do to stop further destruction of historic Armenian monuments – if any are left – in Azerbaijan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Emil, the article is a roundup of what different blogs say about the 3rd anniversary of Djulfa’s destruction. If you see anger, that’s because the article reflects what other blogs are saying. In fact, every single blog post on Djulfa’s destruction I was able to find in the blogosphere has been reflected here. In other words, there has been no cherry-picking. In fact, I tried very hard to find recent Azeri posts but didn’t see anything. If you find some Azeri-language posts on Djulfa written this Fall, please e-mail it to me at <a href="mailto:info@blogian.net">info@blogian.net</a> </p>
<p>I do agree with you that oppression in Nakhichevan is not exclusively limited to Armenian heritage. I do know that the people of Nakhichevan are oppressed through human trafficking, freedom of speech restriction, and even with destruction of gathering places. I don’t know if you read my blog (www.blogian.net), but I have covered all of these topics. At <a href="http://blogian.hayastan.com/2007/12/09/azeris-tied-to-trees-for-not-paying-utility-bills/" rel="nofollow">http://blogian.hayastan.com/2007/12/09/azeris-tied-to-trees-for-not-paying-utility-bills/</a>, for instance I mention how small tea-houses are destroyed in Nakhichevan to promote monopoly business. At <a href="http://blogian.hayastan.com/2007/11/20/our-azeri-sisters/" rel="nofollow">http://blogian.hayastan.com/2007/11/20/our-azeri-sisters/</a>, I discuss human trafficking of Azeri girls and women from Nakhichevan to Turkey and Azerbaijan. At <a href="http://blogian.hayastan.com/2008/12/08/azerbaijan-18-month-sentence-for-letters-to-government/" rel="nofollow">http://blogian.hayastan.com/2008/12/08/azerbaijan-18-month-sentence-for-letters-to-government/</a>, I report how an ordinary citizen in Nakhichevan has been arrested for writing anti-government letters. You can search other posts at <a href="http://www.blogian.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogian.net</a>. </p>
<p>I also agree that there has been vandalism against Azeri memory by the Azeri government in the name of business development. But you are wrong to suggest that “the purpose was not to destroy Armenian cemetry in Nakhichevan but other than that,like business or construction.” I don’t know how well you are aware of where Djulfa existed, but if you check out Google Earth (which shows the cemetery almost intact because the data is from 2003) you will see that the cemetery was in a remote region, surrounded by a lot more land that could have been used for “development.”(The image <a href="http://www.djulfa.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/google.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://www.djulfa.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/google.JPG</a> shows a 2003 Google Earth capture. The red circle is the cemetery. Only green areas are terrain inhabited by people. It makes no sense “developing” anything in a remote area far away from where people live. And if there is need to “develop” something, there are miles and miles of other similar terrains that don’t need to be “cleaned up” as opposed to a historic cemetery.  In fact, “development” doesn’t often happen in military zones especially on an international border. Furthermore, today the cemetery is a military shooting range with limited materials used (see photos at <a href="http://www.djulfa.com/photos/today/)" rel="nofollow">http://www.djulfa.com/photos/today/)</a>. Why would Azerbaijan’s government use so much energy and money (it took several cranes, trucks, weeks) to “convert” a historic cemetery in a remote area to a military shooting range? If your answer is “why not,” then my question is then why Azerbaijan 1) either denies that the cemetery didn’t exist in the first place or 2) says that even if the cemetery exists/existed it was never Armenian or 3) the destruction never happened. None of these make sense. </p>
<p>I do commend you, though, for condemning the destruction. And I also agree that neither Armenia nor Azerbaijan is a democratic country. My question to you is what individual progressive Azeris such as yourself should do to stop further destruction of historic Armenian monuments – if any are left – in Azerbaijan.</p>
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		<title>By: emil</title>
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		<dc:creator>emil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would rather say im dissatisfied with this article which is full of anger.First i would say that i dont doubt that cemetry is destroyed though Azeri officials deny it, as stated above.If you are the author of Azerbaijan in this site then you should at least take on other side-Azeris point of view on the issue.
First,Nakhichevan is controlled by &quot;king of Nakhichevan&quot; as we call him in Azerbaijan.He does whatever he wants.There were a lot of scandals about him.He pushed out all international organizations away from the region and rules it with unseen dictatorial way.If i start to count the problems of Nakhichevan which is departed from Azerbaijan thanks to the &quot;Karabakh war&quot; you would probably be astonished.
Anyway,I condemn these actions but come on we are not living in democratic countries.We see unjustice everyday in both countries.Recently the graveyard was destroyed in the center of Baku to build a new apartment buildings there.And all the graves were Azeris graves.People protested holding the sceletons of their dear ones destroyed by business-pursuing government corruptionists.
So i think the purpose was not to destroy Armenian cemetry in Nakhichevan but other than that,like business or construction.If they wanted to destroy Armenian heritage they would do that during latest 18 years.
And please dont seek help from American democratic party politicians and Armenian diaspora.They have hurt enough Azerbaijan restrictring help(907 law).Obama with his young mind and false surrounders will definatly fail in foreign policy(my prediction).We should seek help from outside the region(Caucases) and try to inflow the money into the region rather than seeking to see other country(Azerbaijan or Armenia) to suffer.If we achieve peace in the future it would it would be in our interest to have a strong neighbour and strong Caucases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would rather say im dissatisfied with this article which is full of anger.First i would say that i dont doubt that cemetry is destroyed though Azeri officials deny it, as stated above.If you are the author of Azerbaijan in this site then you should at least take on other side-Azeris point of view on the issue.<br />
First,Nakhichevan is controlled by &#8220;king of Nakhichevan&#8221; as we call him in Azerbaijan.He does whatever he wants.There were a lot of scandals about him.He pushed out all international organizations away from the region and rules it with unseen dictatorial way.If i start to count the problems of Nakhichevan which is departed from Azerbaijan thanks to the &#8220;Karabakh war&#8221; you would probably be astonished.<br />
Anyway,I condemn these actions but come on we are not living in democratic countries.We see unjustice everyday in both countries.Recently the graveyard was destroyed in the center of Baku to build a new apartment buildings there.And all the graves were Azeris graves.People protested holding the sceletons of their dear ones destroyed by business-pursuing government corruptionists.<br />
So i think the purpose was not to destroy Armenian cemetry in Nakhichevan but other than that,like business or construction.If they wanted to destroy Armenian heritage they would do that during latest 18 years.<br />
And please dont seek help from American democratic party politicians and Armenian diaspora.They have hurt enough Azerbaijan restrictring help(907 law).Obama with his young mind and false surrounders will definatly fail in foreign policy(my prediction).We should seek help from outside the region(Caucases) and try to inflow the money into the region rather than seeking to see other country(Azerbaijan or Armenia) to suffer.If we achieve peace in the future it would it would be in our interest to have a strong neighbour and strong Caucases.</p>
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		<title>By: Nova Scotia Scott &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Destruction of Armenian cemetery commemorated</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nova Scotia Scott &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Destruction of Armenian cemetery commemorated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] grant official visitors access to the cemetery site. For more reactions to the commemoration, visit Global Voices Online.  swfobject.embedSWF(&quot;http://www.youtube.com/v/JZu2zqFE_gI&amp;rel=1&amp;fs=1&quot;, &quot;vvq4947f833688d2&quot;, [...]</description>
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