Comments on: China: Will a Nobel Peace Prize really hurt our feelings?

By: celia_cui

celia_cui — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:13:49 +0000

To September 30th, 2008 at 4:33 am jimmy & October 1st, 2008 at 17:33 pm carryanne:
I can not but make a few remarks about your holier-than-thou words. By which approach r u on earth informed with ur knowldges about China? What evidence r u holding to claim that people who took the opposite side to u, or who just gave the country her due here are dumb and CCP people trolling the net? I’m an ordinary Chinese citizen. I take a job in a finance Co.I’m fed up with ur ignorant & hostile slander about our country and even chinese youth! U’ve always been boasting of ur objective and justice, while u’ve always been indoctrinated inumerable distorted news about China, and u just accept what u r willing to accept in an arrogant and over self-assured manner. Why not just go to China and see her with ur own eyes? U suggested we should why there is so much western criticism. And I’d like to suggest u ever took a step back, broadened ur narrowed views and actually wondered why there is so much chinese criticism? Do u have a knowedge of the existence of another eastern values? R u really aquaited with the life style we chinese citizens prefer, thus respectful to this ? Admittedly, there’s margin for our country and government to make promotion in economicly and politically. In my view, every govern’ on the world is by no means perfect. While we’r doing our utmost to improve the current situation, what r u doing now? Invasion to the small but abundant with crude oil counties? I just wonder why there r countries like urs that exploit on one side our ecological entironment resources, and on the other hand, demonize us? U know, the statistics here say every product the chinese manufactur for 1 dollar income creat 9 dollar value for the US importers, who gain a gross profit as 3.6 dollar.
What I’m saying means not so much a complaint as an appearl for understanding. We r a moderate and nonaggressive country for thousands of years, and we expect at least comprehension and respect from u, though without ur sense of guilt on ur invasion and robbery of us in the first half of the twentieth century.

By: knights

knights — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:59:30 +0000

Although I am relieved that Obama got elected. We need Democrat to control the executive and Congress for a change!

I still see the American society’s prejudice against women and old age! Look at the bashing of Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin. Poor Palin! Poor McCain, at 72 is treated like a piece trash even though he served the USA, and he got tortured overseas for five years for his patriotic service.

By: knights

knights — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:35:38 +0000

“The youth in China are raised without culture, they are raised on absolute materialism, so they will easily sell out for money (not all) and they have been raised on lies and false history.”

Wow, amazing how ignorant this is!

By: knights

knights — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:29:32 +0000

At anyone who thinks Chinese are brainwashed!

JK at least Chinese understand in depth the meaning of “patriotism” We are NOT too sensitive to get hurt, but we stand behind the principle that is right for the better of the big picture.

I don’t think Americans fully grasp the concept of what it means to be patriotic!

Yes the economy we are in sucks, and the Iraq war sucks! Yes we have the right to bash our governments. People act like they are so sick of Bush, and that makes me laugh out loud. Eight years ago, 9/11 you were crawling to your saver to stand up for you, and today, all that is forgotten?! The situation we are in is the result of the American government, not just Bush himself!

Republicans are known to have warlike attitudes, that’s not a suprise. That’s why we voted Democrat this time! Right now Obama is taking over red rolls of accounting records, the economy mess to clean up, etc, God forbid he will make one little mistake in his term no matter what it is, what are people gonna say in four years!

Oh I remember Clinton did so much for our economy. Remember “Surplus” and world peace? He made one little personal mistake, and you people thought he was satan!!!!

You called yourselves “patriotics” and Chinese brain washed zombies, well it looks like it’s the other way around!!!!!!

By: knights

knights — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:33:10 +0000

This message is NOT directed toward JK

Just a general observation. I hope Obama will NOT fund the stupid little programs for writing up crazy stuff to demonize China.

By: knights

knights — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:25:19 +0000

FU JK! Aren’t you ashame of using JK’s name to mask your own? I hate saying that to our past president!

Hopefully Obama will befriend China, and not bully her. I would like him to fire Pelosi – not because she wears botox made from China (she looks good in it though,) but because she joined force with republican for terrorizing the olympics . . . .

By: Brian Barker

Brian Barker — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:19:50 +0000

I regret that the much neglected language,Esperanto did not receive the Nobel Peace Prize. At least nine British MP’s nominated this global language, for the Prize.

Within a short period of 121 years Esperanto is now placed within the top 100 languages, out of 6,000 worldwide according to the CIA factbook. It it the 17th most used language by Wikipedia, and it is in active use by Facebook and Skype.

Solid arguments for Esperanto can be seen on the Youtube video, by Professor Piron, a former translator at the United Nations.

If you have time please check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LV9XU

By: john

john — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:34:21 +0000

aside form that, the ccp has actually lift some restrictions off it’s control over media/press. and also, they did erode some aspect of culture, that is Superstition, to some degree though.

By: wgj

wgj — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:27:41 +0000

Just because the CCP is reaching for total control of the media doesn’t mean all information is indeed under effective control of the CCP. And just because the CCP (among many other things) has a certain eroding effect on the Chinese culture (however that is defined) doesn’t mean culture has been eradicated from China. To think otherwise is — again — incredibly condescending and a plain insult to human intelligence. By the way, do you know that many European think America has no culture because the country is just too young?

Contrary to North Korea, information is actually free for consumers in today’s China — in that anyone who wants to be informed can easily get around the Great Firewall and find all the public information available to the world at large. It’s neither technically complicated nor does it carry any danger of prosecution. Of course for information producers and publishers, the country is still anything but free. So the Chinese may not be as well informed as they could be, but if you think they’re a bunch of brainwashed zombies, you’re just as stupid as a dictator who believes he can fool all the people all the time.

By: carryanne

carryanne — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:50:27 +0000

here: http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/10/answering-those-questions-on-the-southern-weekend/

Finally I hear a few encouraging words from people in China whose minds are functioning in a way that can benefit themselves and society, not this CCP harmony drivel.

By: carryanne

carryanne — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 03:18:53 +0000

Yeah, you’re right, it is an overgeneralization. It happens sometimes when you are talking about a nation that is under totalitarian rule and whose media and info is controlled by one source… You have a lot of people thinking stuff based on that source. The CCP has eroded Chinese culture so what I said about no culture is true. If there is culture in China then its the exception, there are probly lots of exceptions but the usual, ho hum everyday culture is such that I described.

It has nothing to do with race of course, so it cant be racist, I’m talking about the normal outcome of mind control under totalitarian terrorism.

Thanks for pointing that out, you are right, I dont want to ignore those people who actually are great people.

By: wgj

wgj — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:20:20 +0000

“The youth in China are raised without culture, they are raised on absolute materialism, so they will easily sell out for money (not all) and they have been raised on lies and false history.” Really?

Seriously, can you get more holier-than-thou condescending with your generalized dismission of a few hundred million people, please? You’re coming pretty close to the line of outright racism now, so why not just cross it.

By: joe

joe — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 07:51:32 +0000

about hujia: “Prisoners in Freedom City”
https://www.cmule.com/viewthread.php?tid=164869&extra=page%3D1

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Will a Nobel Peace Prize really hurt our feelings? — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 01:18:26 +0000

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By: carryanne

carryanne — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:33:26 +0000

Jimmy, don’t get your shorts in a know, it seems like these people are so dumb, but actually a lot of them are just party shills, they are CCP people trolling the net making it look like people think such and such a way, trying to pass off their brand of fabricated faux logic.

The youth in China are raised without culture, they are raised on absolute materialism, so they will easily sell out for money (not all) and they have been raised on lies and false history. They did not live through the Cultural Revolution and other psycho campaigns and what they hear about the recent history is fabricated by the party, the party pervades everything, trying to change the truth and it’s not too hard to pull off on these modern youth whose parents are not even all too clear and who are too broken and afraid to teach their children culture and truth.

I think that truth in China would greatly solve the whole issue of these people who defend and love the party and believe the party is above them and their country. If CNN and other media knew how to report on China… They should do a much better job, but it’s like they don’t know how important this is… They say this and that but seem not to really want to help China and Chinese people.