Comments on: Pakistani Bloggers on the McCain-Obama Debate

By: shirazi

shirazi — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:18:46 +0000

Pakistani bloggers are as concerned as African American. Only time is going to tell how things unfold…

By: Riaz Haq

Riaz Haq — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:31:03 +0000

If history is any guide, it can be fairly safely predicted that the a Democratic administration will pursue a punitive policy toward Pakistan while tilting heavily toward India, much more so than the Bush administration. Given the caution sounded by Obama’s advisor Bruce Reidel about Pakistan, the hope is that better sense will prevail in the potential Obama administration on policy toward Pakistan. However, if \President\ Obama does follow through on his tough talk on Pakistan, there will be an expanded regional war involving Afghanistan and Pakistan leading to massive destabilization of the entire region and extremely dangerous consequence for the world. In the words of famous neocon Christopher Hitchens, \He (Obama) began using this rhetoric when it was much simpler to counterpose the \good\ war in Afghanistan with the \bad\ one in Iraq. Never mind that now; he is committed in advance to a serious projection of American power into the heartland of our deadliest enemy. And that, I think, is another reason why so many people are reluctant to employ truthful descriptions for the emerging Afghan-Pakistan confrontation: American liberals can’t quite face the fact that if their man does win in November, and if he has meant a single serious word he’s ever said, it means more war, and more bitter and protracted war at that—not less.\

By: Chief_Cabioch

Chief_Cabioch — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:02:54 +0000

speaking the truth about obama is seen as hate speech on the left, yet it is indeed the truth, obama doesnt dispute it, he just tries to minimize it, he was rubbing elbows with Ayers, his preacher rev Wright, his other issues, trouble is, most on the left believe the ends justify the means, thats why we have Acorn under investigation in over a Dozen states, and guess whi’s side they are on ? the Democrats support them infact there was money in the additional Bailout funds that were “earmarked to go to Acorn”, acorn and the democrats will go to any lenghts to regain power here, and I predict if obama is elected, he will later be impeached for illegal activities and campaign financing among others.

By: movie fan

movie fan — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:59:04 +0000

McCain is demonstrating that the surest way to make a frustrated old dog show his true colors is to back him into a corner (*snarl* *bite* *growl*)

By: Golden-Eagle-Eye

Golden-Eagle-Eye — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 05:01:11 +0000

This is another twist in the US presidential elections. The most vocal anti-Islamic section of the US media is perpetrating cyber-terrorism/crimes and media smear campaign to sway innocent, simple, ordinary swing voters to beef up support for a wayward McCain-Palin combination.

If Obama and Biden wins it will be big insult and perhaps a deathblow for the Islam-haters whose one and only mission is to smear the ever-swelling freedom and peace-loving Islamists in the eyes of a section of the Americans. The hate-mongers must realize that Islamists are getting stronger day by day constituting a major share of the US melting pot.

The following article and more can be found at: http://www.fair.org

Media’s Obsession
10/08/2008 by isabel

Over the past several weeks, 28 million copies of an anti-Muslim propaganda film, Obsession, have been delivered to the doorsteps of newspaper subscribers in swing states.

Unfortunately, as a new report by FAIR documents, the media’s complicity in smearing an entire religious group goes far beyond the role of the 70 newspapers that participated in the distribution of the Obsession DVD.

FAIR’s report, “Smearcasting: How Islamophobes Spread Fear, Bigotry and Misinformation,” profiles 12 top anti-Muslim pundits who regularly use misinformation and innuendo to broadcast hate against Muslims. From talk radio host Michael Savage openly advocating killing 100 million Muslims to CNN’s Glenn Beck stating that Muslims “will be looking through a razor wire fence at the West” within 10 years, the report unmasks the pundits who have done the most to spread anti-Muslim fear and bigotry in the media.

Other members of the report’s “dirty dozen” list include talkshow hosts Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity; activists like Michelle Malkin, Daniel Pipes and David Horowitz; and influential writers like Mark Steyn and Robert Spencer.

Notably, some of the leading members of this network have gone well beyond outrageous statements. From Pipes’ campaign against the principal of an Arabic-language public school in New York City, whom he erroneously painted as an extremist, to Malkin’s crusade against a Dunkin Donuts ad featuring a scarf that Malkin dubbed a “symbol of the murderous Palestinian jihad,” the leading Islamophobic pundits have also translated their hateful message into action.

The full report is available for download at http://www.smearcasting.com.

By: Braden

Braden — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:04:48 +0000

come now in all likelihood he’s dead of kidney disease as reported by the C.I.A. in 2001. maybe that’s why we only receive video of his second in command or an audio tape that’s supposed to be Bin Laden. this is not a statement in support of terrorism, just reminding people that the issue is far more complicated than Bin Laden’s Al Qaeda. the Israeli situation is complicated in its own right and the only thing they have in common is their religion and they all practice it differently. meaning we shouldn’t provoke hostilities with an ally over a foolish presumption. also America is responsible for much more horror than Iraq. how about the funding and training of South American death squads(Bolivian rangers or in El Salvidor). these are not conspiracy theories this is declassified information.
Also those committees your referring to are bipartisan. they contain republicans and democrats both. Also they don’t create policy. They discuss the issues and then submit their recommendations before the house. whether its voted in is another thing altogether.in 2006 Obama was on such a committee and stated something needed to be done in regards to these companies lending practices. Also democrats possess a slim majority in the house(233D-202R). it didn’t occur until 2006 in a system that has primarily gone republican for the last 40 years. it was recommended to Allen Greenspan in 1996 to regulate sub-prime mortgages. Also in 2005 Paul Krugman(NY times op-ed writer, also Princeton university professor)wrote an essay called “that hissing sound” about the upcoming burst in mortgage value. but the common republican philosophy was to have little market interference. also in 2006 when Paulsen was put in place by a republican president, he didn’t see it coming either because by 2006 it was already too late. also any significant democratic policy that could have prevented this, goes against that very republican principle of little government regulation. so even if the house passed it the president would veto it. in order to surpass this veto the house would have to get 2/3 of the vote. the congress would have to get 290 votes in order to pass it. so even if every democrat voted for the change it still wouldn’t pass, that’s what i was referring to in regards to checks and balances.
McCain’s campaign manager Rick Davis owns a lobbing firm and from 2005 to just last month he received almost 2 million dollars even after his campaign denied any involvement with the company.

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By: Chief_Cabioch

Chief_Cabioch — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:43:21 +0000

that takes some nerve, Pakistan is harboring binladen, he is responsible for much of the terroist activities world wide, to compare what the US is doing in Iraq, to the actions of Islamic Extremists strapping bombs to themselves getting on an Israeli Bus, and killing innocent people is Absurd, and Outrageous, to make excuses why the Senate Banking, Finance, Housing and Urban Developement Committee run by the Democrats couldnt forsee this, means THEY, the Democrats went doing their Jobs, pure and simple, spin this anyway you want, still comes up they failed, they and Chris Dodd should be replaced, and if the American people would listen to sources Other than the Left Media, they would see, the Democrats, …Not the republicans caused this, Bush doesnt spend Money, the Congress does,….it is a Democratically controlled congress. is it not ?…

did Obama and Chris dodd recieve Large amounts of money from freddie, and fannie ?,,,records show.,..Yes they did

By: Braden

Braden — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:35:04 +0000

first off if you read the statement or have seen his background you would know that he got his start in Chicago. helping crippled neighborhoods. Also just because you control a small majority of congress does not mean you have that much power. America lives in a system based on checks and balances meaning nobody has that much power. Also they have only had that slim majority for only two years, in a system that has usually gone republican for the last 40 years. now apart from this congress and senate, there has only been one democratic president since the 70’s. so one could create a nice debate that not only has the republicans enjoyed a slim majority in multiple branches of government, therefore possessing more power, but does shoulder the blame on many issues such as foreign policy(Iran-contra, Iraq, South America) or economical like promoting a system filled with little oversight and massive corruption. if we can send our adult babies to far away lands not only killing babies but everything else that moves then i say, abortions are a better option.

By: DNC + RNC = ROT

DNC + RNC = ROT — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:47:56 +0000

Spoil what? Waste what? Steal what?

Barack Obama we do not doubt your intelligence. To be an effective leader one must also display honesty, compassion, & guts. Stand with Ralph Nader, Ron Paul, & Cynthia McKinney. NOT John McCain. Your choice – your move.

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By: Chief_Cabioch

Chief_Cabioch — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:11:23 +0000

how many here understand the Democrats here control the congress, the congress they control hold the power to “Spend” Money, NOT the President, yet they blame the president, the democrats have oversite of the “Senate Banking, Finance, Housing, and Urban Developement committiee….they refused to act, now are pointing fingers at everyone else.

the DEMOCRATS have spent the US into a mess, with ear marks, and Porlbarrel spending, and no one gets it

By: Chief_Cabioch

Chief_Cabioch — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:41:55 +0000

quote “I know what the U.S. does with a large military.that is not good for Pakistan.If Pakistan needs someone at all, take my advice,root for the one who takes care of the poor.”

show us where Obama’s looked out for the poor, especially the poor babies that cant speak because they havent been born yet ?

By: John

John — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:29:04 +0000

When McCain said that Pakistan was really a failed state when Musharraf took over I thought it was a gaffe, but I was afraid no Americans would pick up on it. Since even the Pakistani bloggers let it slide, I assume that I was in error, not McCain, and that the Sharif government was really a failed state. Now, does Nawaz Sharif know about this? Do the voters of Pakistan know about this? And does this mean that Pakistanis will finally, democratically abolish their federation?

This is not a defense of Sharif but opposition to coups.

By: Braden

Braden — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 02:25:24 +0000

I saw the entire debate and I was shocked by the statement because considering their political party, the statements should be switched.
don’t support McCain so quick, although he apologized for abandoning Pakistan in the 80’s. he still did, he also has represented the same political party that has abandoned Pakistan time and again.earlier in the debate he said his hero was Ronald Reagan, what a great example of a wise foreign diplomacy.
in the united states military service is highly respected as in most countries.Obama being a public servant or providing community service to the poor. although highly respected as well, certain Americans don’t believe Obama has the strength to be president. so at some point in the debate, he had to display some form of might, unfortunitly he had to use Pakistan as that example. but if you remember earlier in the debate McCain also talked about having a strong U.S. military, and when he described Pakistan he described it from a military perspective.

“I’ve been to Waziristan. I can see how tough that terrain is. It’s ruled by a handful of tribes.”

I know what the U.S. does with a large military.that is not good for Pakistan.If Pakistan needs someone at all, take my advice,root for the one who takes care of the poor.