Gershom: I am replying to your comment to Jillian York: because the parents are mature enough to make decision for their life and take any consequences for it. I am looking forward to seeing your comment for me.

The point is not who’s right or wrong over abortion, or child support. The main point here is that, regardless of the law, the CHILD shouldn’t be punished for the errors of either parent. I won’t argue anything else…that child deserves a better life, even if her parents don’t.

As I mentioned before, the mother should first seek help from society, such as receiving donations, rather than expecting the government to change its laws to suit a specific case like hers. You mention that the father should pay the fine. Well, yes, her mother could totally take legal action to get the father to share the fine, provided that he is not dead or she could still find him. It is not like the government wouldn’t allow her to do so.

“Murdering an innocent life” at conception or raising a child in squalor, which one sounds more cruel? If you are not ready for a kid, financially, emotionally, and mentally, please do not give birth to a child. It is unfair to the child and can potentially become a burden to society.

I am sure you must be so happy not having to deal with chinese social problems, just like I don’t have to deal with yours. BTW, if we could compete in the global economy with the advantages of surplus labor-force and low currency exchange, what’s wrong with that? Isn’t that what Capitalism and globalization are all about? And just in case you don’t know, making US$100 a month in China with accommodation provided by the factory isn’t as bad as you imagine, based on your country’s living cost. Beijing buses cost 5.8 cents, and 40 cents US could buy lunch. Oh, about the working conditions and the filthy environment, isn’t a significant part of that due to foreign investors who want to keep their home country clean while exploiting cheap labour in china?

If you believe the chinese people believe in whatever the government tells you is right or wrong, well, I have to say that statement is pretty ignorant. BTW, I dont even believe in Buddha. You try to paint China as a “godless” society where morality is set by the CCP, and think Chinese people crave Christian morals to correct the current moral code. China has been around for a while and for thousands of years we were not a “godless” people – we had our own gods, and our moral code was set based on these native religions and philosophies. So even before we became an atheist country, our religious and social morals were not the same as those in the Judeo-Christian world.

however, i dont really understand why you raised this point here. is it anything to do with this article or my comments about abortion?

Who defines what is right and what is not? dont use your moral standard to judge us. of course you dont understand the population situation is china because you didnt grow up here and ever experienced the intensity of the sharing of public resources. you would never understand how it feels like to share a school dorm with 10 – 16 people for 8 years and the only private space you have is a twin-size bed full of all your belongs(desktop computer, clothes, candies, books…and yourself) . i dont want to give a a whole lesson here on how bad the population problem in china is. but the faimly planning policy is the only short term solution to it, and just like some of the translated comments above saying, the law is the law, if it gives exemption to specific cases, it is no longer called the law.

I agree that it is neither the mother’s fault nor the kid’s fault. but it doesnt exempt her from any punishment for the fact that she violated the policy. As a taxpayer, I wouldnt want to pay for other people’s mistakes just because they made the bad choice for their life, such as teen pregnancy. in this case, i rather to donate money to her at my will, than being taken away tax money to help her without asking for my permission.

beside, who says abortion is against any moral standards? god??? if you believe in such thing. but who are you to judge us based on your god theory. if anything, shouldnt we believe in buda rather than the imported god? dont you know that your god standard might not apply to other cultures?