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South Africa: Dude, Where's the Presidency?

The South African Blogosphere just sparked with the recent news of 11 Ministers and 3 deputy ministers resigning including South Africa's star minister, Trevor Manuel and The Deputy President, Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka. Here's what the bloggers are saying…

From Cape Town Property Bubble

Finance Minister Trevor Manuel is among 11 Cabinet ministers and three deputy ministers who have resigned.
Their letters of resignation had been received by President Thabo Mbeki “which, regretfully, he has had to accept”, the presidency said in a statement on Tuesday.

In my own blog, Waiting in Transit the post “South Africa’s Government disbands, WTF?” goes:

“What the Hell?!?” is almost every South African's response right now as the news is coming thick and fast right now with news of 11 Ministers in Government resigning today, including Trevor Manuel (No! Don’t Go!) including 3 Deputy Ministers. This after The Deputy President, Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka, resigned yesterday citing that she wants to allow the “new president” to choose their own deputies and “personal reasons” (Yeah, right.)

The Ministers who have left are…

Deputy President, Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka;
Minister of Finance Trevor Manuel;
Minister of Defence Mosiuoa Lekota;
Minister in the Presidency Essop Pahad;
Minister of Intelligence Ronnie Kasrils;
Minister of Correctional Services Ngconde Balfour;
Minister of Public Enterprises Alec Erwin;
Minister of Science and Technology Mosibudi Mangena;
Minister of Public Works Thoko Didiza;
Minister of Provincial and Local Government Sydney Mufamadi; and
Minister of Public Service and Administration Geraldine Fraser-Moleketi.

…and that’s not including the three deputy ministers: Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Aziz Pahad; Deputy Minister of Finance Jabu Moleketi; and Deputy Minister of Correctional Services Loretta Jacobus.

Following the President’s resignation, which was a blow enough to the country in terms of stability, etc. and now this… This is DEVASTATING. With no doubt, this is the biggest Political upset in South African history. No doubt, the ANC National Executive Committee is probably shitting itself after coming to the decision to chuck Mbeki out of the presidency, citing the recent case against Jacob Zuma in which the case was thrown out of court due to “political interference” (which they blamed on Mbeki)… I bet they didn’t see this coming, or maybe they did, maybe this is what they wanted.

Kgalemo Motlanthe, Zuma’s ally has already been chosen as the care-taker president since the other Deputy President had resigned, os now they have the opportunity to replace EVERYONE.

I don’t know what’s going to happen now, this cannot be good for investor confidence in the country , the Rand is most probably going to get shot to hell and there goes the 2010 Dream. Negative, I know, otherwise I’m hoping for a miracle.

From the East Coast News Watch Blog

President Thabo Mbeki has lodged papers in the Constitutional Court for permission to add his name to an application to appeal Judge Chris Nicholson’s judgment.

*Plus, read his full resignation speech *

Mbeki filed the papers yesterday - a day after announcing to the nation that he has resigned.

The move follows Nicholson’s statement in the recent Pietermaritzburg High Court ruling, that Mbeki and the former Justice Minister may have interfered in the decision to prosecute Jacob Zuma. Last week, the cabinet said it was considering taking legal action over the judge’s comments about political interference. It is understood that cabinet has also lodged papers in the con court.


Dispatch Now
speaks of plans for new Political party in South Africa…

Outgoing President Thabo Mbeki’s mother, Epainette, is backing moves to split the African National Congress (ANC) and form a new breakaway political party.

News of the plans by Mbeki supporters to form a new breakaway party emerged this weekend after the ANC national executive committee (NEC) announced that it had resolved to recall Mbeki from his office.
Defence Minister Mosiuoa Lekota, his deputy Mluleki George and Gauteng Premier Mbhazima Shilowa are believed to be spearheading the campaign to start the still-to-be-named political party.

On Sunday George would neither confirm nor deny the moves, saying only that an announcement would be made soon.

On Monday, Ma’Mbeki, as the 92-year-old struggle veteran is affectionately known, said she was aware of the the plans and backed the move to split the ANC as she saw no future in the organisation under current president Jacob Zuma.

The East News Watch Blog also wrote of the ANC's favoured candidate for the position of president, before the ministers mentioned above had resigned…

The ANC has confirmed that its Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe has been chosen as the party’s preferred candidate to serve as the country’s interim president after Thabo Mbeki leaves office on Thursday.

The ANC’s Jessie Duarte says while parliament still has to vote on the matter today - that will just be a formality.

“Mr Kgalema Motlanthe is the ANC’s preferred candidate to become the next president of the Republic of South Africa. He will probably be sworn in immediately after the resignation of President Mbeki takes effect on the 25th of September.”

Many South Africans right now are in absolute shock as to the events which are unfolding before their eyes, what the future holds, no-one knows, all we know is that right now, people are fearful as to the outcome of this situation.

Photo above of the South African Houses of Parliament in Cape Town is by Nick Boalch and shared under a Creative Commons “Attribution-Non-Commercial-No Derivative” license.

Venezuela: The Expulsion of Human Rights Watch

Armed military soldiers searched for José Miguel Vivancos, spokesperson for the international NGO Human Rights Watch, and expelled him from Venezuela hours after releasing the report at a press conference, “A Decade Under Chávez: Political Intolerance and Lost Opportunities for Advancing Human Rights in Venezuela,” which included critical commentary about the administration of Hugo Chávez.

The Venezuelan government's response to what it called, “another foreign aggression by U.S. Imperialism” was quick, convincing, and maybe even provided evidence of the political intolerance cited in the report, which is one of the fundamental features of contemporary Venezuela.

The report does not say anything that the Venezuela opposition has not already said, and in reality, Vivancos' statements were nothing new.

However, for being an foreigner and the international legitimacy of the NGO caused for his immediate exit. In addition, recently the Venezuelan government expelled the U.S. ambassador in solidarity with the expulsion of the U.S. ambassador in Bolivia.

Iria Puyosa in her blog Resteados [es], she publishes some portions of the HRW report in a post called “Please, Don't Watch or Fuck You,

Venezuela no logrará obtener un progreso real y sostenido hacia el fortalecimiento de su democracia; ni tampoco ser un modelo útil para otros países de la región; mientras su gobierno continúe despreciando los principios de derechos humanos establecidos en su propia Constitución.

[…]

El capítulo 2 documenta de qué forma el gobierno ha:
- Despedido a opositores políticos de algunas instituciones estatales y de la compañía petrolera estatal y puesto sus nombres en listas negras;
- Ha negado a algunos ciudadanos el acceso a programas sociales como consecuencia de sus opiniones políticas; y
- Discriminado contra los medios de comunicación, los sindicatos y las organizaciones de la sociedad civil en respuesta a sus críticas o a su actividad política.

Venezuela will not achieve real and sustainable progress towards the strengthening of its democracy; it will also not be a useful models for other countries of the region; while its government continues to look down upon the principals of human rights established by its own Constitution.

[…]

Chapter 2 documents the way that the government has:
- Fired political opponents in some of the state institutions and of the state petroleum company and blacklisted them;
- Denied some citizens access to social programs due to their political opinions; and
-Discriminated against the media, unions, and civil society organizations in response to their criticism o their political activity.

Even though the blogs that support the government have decreased in activity over the past months, there are other spaces that these opinions are expressed. On the site Aporrea [es] there have been articles directly attacking Vivancos and the role of HRW (calling them employees of the CIA and destablizers), responding to the report as if it was a document from the United States, and even some authors such as Francisco Sierra Corrales proposes the need to redefine “Human Rights”

Podemos decir que no sólo los estados o gobiernos son los únicos sujetos activos o los únicos susceptibles de violar los derechos humanos o garantías sociales sino que lo puede hacer el Imperialismo Yanqui, como primer factor de poder mundial. Por ejemplo, el terrorismo mediático y las desestabilizaciones políticas son impulsadas y monitoreadas por Washington, en contra de nuestros pueblos, en especial en contra de los gobiernos de centro-izquierda y centro-derecha que han empezado a surgir en nuestro continente en lo que va de siglo.

We can say that the state or governments are not the only active subjects or the only suspects in violating human rights or social guarantees, but something that the Yankee Imperialism can do, as well. For example, media terrorism and the political destabilization is impulsed and monitored from Washington, against our people and especially against center-left and center-right governments, which have been taking power on our continent since the beginning of the century.

In other political forums, a revolutionary forumist called Achue2 comments:

Con una diplomacia subliminal nos quieren convencer que se cometió un abuso contra este “martir” de los Derechos Humanos. Acá se le dio cuerda [oportunidad] suficiente a este señor. Tiene 10 años viniendo en tiempos electorales a subvertir el orden interno con calumnias y falacias apoyando a una tolda politica… perdió el equilibrio y la veracidad.

With a subliminal diplomacy, they want to convince us that an abuse was committed against this Human Rights “martyr.” Here they gave this man enough of an opportunitiy. He has been coming here for the past 10 years during election season trying to subvert the internal order with slander and fallacies supporting a political structure …he lost balance and truthfulness.

For those blogs, historically identified as opposition to Chávez, this impasse is only one more step towards intolerance by the military government in Venezuela. In other opinions, not so black and white, Rómulo Rodríguez comments on his blog Romrod [es] that he does not agreement with the way that someone making criticism was taken out of the country:

No me importa realmente quien es este señor Vivancos, no lo conozco ni me interesa. Pero lo que si me importa es que el gobierno venga y nos diga como y por que lo que se dice en el reporte es falso. Punto por punto si es posible. Responder con la expulsión de estos señores lo que me hace pensar es que como que tienen la razón y por esto es que los botan. Una torpe bravuconada. […]

¿No hay discriminación política? ¿No hay intolerancia? ¿Hay un completo respeto a las minorías?”

I don't care who this Mr. Vivancos is, I don't know him and I don't care. What is important to me is that the government comes and says what in the report is false. Point by point if possible. Responding with the expulsion of these men makes mr wonder whether they were right and that is why they are thrown out. A clumsy and brazen move. […]

Isn't there political discrimination? Isn't there intolerance? Is there a complete respect for minorities?

Petrusco participates in the comments section and enters into the discussion at the blog Periodismo de Paz [es] regarding the legitimacy of HRW and its political interests by coming to the country and to present its findings:

El día que la HRW demuestre su imparcialidad y eficiencia lanzando informes duros y contundentes en contra de gobiernos como el de Estados Unidos o Israel y realizando acciones serias y eficientes en función de esos informes entonces si valdrá la pena creerles lo que se vengan a leer aquí o en donde sea.

The day that HRW demonstrates its impartiality and efficiency by releasing tough and thorough reports against government like the United States or Israel and takes serious and efficient actions in regards to those reports, then will it be worth it to believe what they came to report here or anywhere else.

Are they attacking the message or the messenger? Read the report here and make your own conclusions.

Thumbnail photo by «•*٠ кιτ-кaτн .٠*•»

Kuwait: YouTube Ban Lifted

News about YouTube being blocked in Kuwait hit the headlines yesterday, with bloggers frustrated over what they described as yet another intrusion on freedom of speech in their country.

The Kuwait Ministry of Communications first issued an order to local ISPs denying access to Youtube due to video content considered offensive to Muslims and Islam. Blogger later reported that the ban was lifted after YouTube removed the ‘offensive' video.

About the original ban, Ansam writes:

I think this is the dumbest decision ever made when it comes to blocking offensive sites… whats next? Blogs!!! Limewire!!!

Man this is ridiculous… no, no, no… its is ridiculously sad! Who comes up with such decisions! Isnt youtube also full of videos supporting Islam, Muslims, and Arabs! Why take the negative part?!?! Was it because of the Quranic verses read in melodic background? The video was removed for God's sake? You only need to report offensive videos and your voice will sure be heard!

I am hating this SO MUCH! Ughhhhhhhhh!

And when the ban was not implemented, Ansam exclaimed:

They canceled! Its not blocked… YAY

Another Kuwaiti blogger, Loft965, notes:

It’s the end of the world as we know it: Kuwait might block YouTube.

Bashar too is livid at the decision, suggesting that the government bans other sites while it is at it. His suggestions include:

If they still wanna move forward, despite that YouTube did really act upon the video, listned to people complains, and there isn’t really any such videos right now, then I have a list of suggestions to push our country furter forward, carefully selected from Alexa top 100 sites in Kuwait:

 

 

  1. Google, Yahoo, and MSN Search: The head of search to all evil things. Block them.
  2. Facebook: There are some athiest and anti-Islamic groups. Don’t try to reach them, educate them, or show your thoughts. Just leave the whole site.
  3. Maktoob.com: Arabic online forums, e-marriage could be abused for dating, movies, horoscopes. This is not Islamic is it?
  4. Kooora.com: All about soccer, mostly European soccer where teams show sponsored Beer and wine ads on their Shirts.
  5. RapidShare: Sharing is not monitored, you can’t tell what your people are sharing. And someone might be secretly sharing offensive content. There must be some of it. Or at least, just to be on the safe side
  6. Travian.ae: Obiously, why should you let your people play as Romanian soldiers in an online game, helping the Romanian empire expand it’s grounds online, when they could be fighting as Islamic ones.
  7. Hi5: Friendship site.

Falantan brings news of the order to ban YouTube being reconsidered at higher levels. He writes:

Thanks to you all and the amazing response, it seems the Ministry people are realizing their blunder […]And now I got confirmation that the Minister himself has convened with his department heads and rescinded the order.
Thank you al-Jarida and thank you bloggers of Kuwait :)

Writing in Arabic, Jandeef argues:

شبكة الانترنت فيها مواد تعليمية واقتصادية وتجارية وثقافية، لكن فيها مواقع إرهابية وإباحية وعنصرية وغيرها … ليش ما تمنعونها؟
السكين يمكن استخدامها لتقطيع تفاحة وقص كيكة عيد ميلاد وأكل ستيك، لكن هناك من يقتل الناس فيها … ليش ما تمنعونها؟
السيارة وسيلة نقل وفي بعض الأحيان وسيلة كشخة، ولكن هناك من يستخدمها للسرقة
والتهريب، وأحياناً تتسبب بإصابة أحد أو فقد حياته … ليش ما تمنعونها؟
The Internet has educational, economic, commercial and cultural material, but it also carries terrorist, immoral and racial material… why don't you ban it?
A knife can be used to cut an apple or a birthday cake, as well as for eating steak, but there are people who use it to kill… why don't you ban it?
A car is a means of transportation and sometimes it is a means of showing off. But there are some who use it rob others and smuggle, and sometimes it is causes injuries and kills people… why don't you ban it?

Jordanian Moey, who visits Kuwait regularly, urges the authorities:

Why block the website? I’m not sure if any of you remember, they blocked anything +18 in Yahoo groups 2 years back, and YouTube has an option that allows users to report offensive content.

Please don’t go nuts like Syria and block YouTube and Facebook?

And Frankom rants:

الخبر نازل بالجرايد اليوم

مبروك علينا دولة الديموقراطية والحرية

مبروك علينا ناس مثل الكندري مدير الرقابة

مبروك علينا وزير مايعرف وين الله قاطه

مبروك علينا شركات ماتدافع عن العملاء

مبروك علينا كلنا هذا النعيم

الى الخلف يا كويت

The news is in the newspapers today.
Congratulations on us being in the country of democracy and freedom
Congratulations on us having people like Al Kindiri as the head of censorship
Congratulations on us having a minister who doesn't know where he is
Congratulations on us having companies which don't stand up for their clients
Congratulations on us for living in all this prosperity
March backwards, Kuwait

Kazakhstan: Who Lives Well in Kazakhstan

As long as Kazakhstan still aspires to enter the top 50 most competitive states of the world (although these efforts have so far resulted in decline of its competitiveness, as the World Economic Forum’s annual reports show), the republic has managed to enter another list of countries, unfortunately, a shameful one. Ehot reports that Kazakhstan has been included in the blacklist of Ebay web-shop as a country, to which they don’t ship any products due to the theft of packages in these countries [ru]. (more…)

Ecuador: The Concern for Citizen Safety

Babahoyo, Los Rios-Ecuador
Babahoyo's citizens (province of Los Rios, Ecuador) marching in defense of their own social safety. Photo used under permission by Juan Pi

Ecuador's economic difficulties are said to be one of the chief causes of crime around the country. Much of it is caused by the unemployed, who will find alternatives to eat and survive, which often means committing crimes or stealing. For the ordinary citizen, it is quite different, when your car is stolen. Cars belonging to someone important in the political world, it will undoubtedly be recovered immediately. However, if the same car belongs to a blogger like Fatima Quishpe, the car can be considered long gone.

The concern over safety led the Babahoyo Chamber of Commerce to organize a march asking for increased security in the city. Juan Pi of Aguitmat Corp [es] was unable to attend the march, but explains the reasons why the Chamber of Commerce organized the march:

…Ya que los continuos asaltos ya son el pan de cada dia, y ya se que su majestad ha dicho que desde antes de su gobierno ha existido inseguridad y tiene razon, pero ahora los señores de lo ajeno son descarados, en plena luz del dia y con armas de grueso calibre amedrentando y agrediendo a los dueños de los locales comerciales y proceden a llevarse lo que mas puedan. Hasta ahora no nos ha pasado nada de eso a nosotros(aunq hace algunos años se metieron al almacen en la noche), pero a nuestros vecinos si los han asaltado en el dia.

Because of the continuing assaults are a daily occurrence, and now that his majesty has said that insecurity already existed before his administration, and he's right, but now the men are brazen, in broad daylight and with heavy caliber weapons, which cause damage to business owners and take everything they can. So far, nothing has happened to us (although a few years ago they gained entrance to the warehouse at night), but our neighbors have been assaulted during daytime.

Moving down south Ecuador, we arrive to Cuenca. This city is also in trouble because of ‘social inequalities’ which is the cause for many people to commit crimes. Andres Martinez [es] recommends two points to fight citizens' safety:

El primero se basa en eliminar las causas que llevan a los rufianes a delinquir, a través de una correcta aplicación de justicia social, que contemple que todos los ciudadanos tengan iguales oportunidades, así como lograr una correcta reintroducción de los sujetos de alto riesgo, a través de actividades productivas.

Y el segundo, sin duda es apropiarnos los cuencanos de nuestros espacios públicos, ya que toda plaza, parque, calle, son nuestras, y son para nuestro esparcimiento e integración. Así, cuando ciudadanos honestos y respetuosos logren llegar a ese nivel de apropiación, que conlleva un control implícito de esos espacios, al sentir cercanía, creará un efecto multiplicador donde los ciudadanos seamos los verdaderos guardianes de la ciudad, y de esta manera niños, jóvenes y adultos, podremos disfrutar a plenitud de una ciudad tan bella, aunque a veces insegura, como la Atenas del Ecuador.

The first is based on eliminating the causes that lead people to commit crimes, through a proper application of social justice, which provides all citizens with equal opportunities and a proper reintroduction of high-risk subjects, through productive activities.

And secondly, it is certainly appropriate for Cuenca's people take ownership of our public spaces, since any plaza, park, streets is ours, and they are for our recreation and integration. Thus, when honest and respectful citizens achieve that level of ownership, which means an implicit control of these areas, feeling of community, it will create a multiplying effect where we, the citizens are the true guardians of the city, and thus children, youth and adults, can fully enjoy the city, which is so beautiful, although sometimes insecure, as the Athens of Ecuador.

Another blogger complains also about Fatima’s concerns on top of this post - how some officials receive special protection to the point that they may have streets closed while they eat, while civilians have to take care of themselves. He recounts an experience about the Government and Police Minister, Fernando Bustamante and Internal and External Security Minister, Gustavo Larrea. The blogger Chucky writes about this episode:

Les propongo algo, que les parece si los ponenos a los dos paraditos en pleno centro de la ciudad (podría ser por el mercado central) tipo seis de la tarde, paraditos, sin que nadie los cuide, porque me contaron que el otro día que estuvo el payaso este de Bustamante comiendo en el “Restaurante Lo Nuestro” cerraron la calle, habían diez patrulleros, viente policías, mientras a Guayaquil los ladrones se los llevan en peso.

I propose something, what about if we let them, both of them, stand up in the middle of the city (could be at the central market) let's say around 6 p.m., standing all by themselves, without nobody to look after them, because someone told me the other day that this Bustamante's clown was eating in the “Our Restaurant” and that they had closed the street. There were ten police cars and twenty policemen, while Guayaquil was being controlled by thieves.

Indonesia: Lights, Camera, Elections!

News of showbiz personalities running in the elections is no longer surprising. But if more than 30 entertainers were registered by a major political party as candidates in the elections; and if all parties, big or small, have asked actors/actresses to become politicians, then indeed this is somewhat an interesting, if not shocking news.

Next April, Indonesian voters will elect new members of Parliament. Political parties are now quietly launching their election campaigns. What surprised (or disturbed) many Indonesians is the high number of celebrities who were named as parliamentary candidates.

For example, the National Mandate Party or PAN registered 22 singers, actors and actresses as their candidates. There is a running joke that the new name of PAN is now the “National Artists Party.”

Pemiloopy identifies the issue:

“The one election issue in the news at the moment is the trend for celebrities to stand for election. The idea is that soap opera stars will bring voters flocking to parties because of name recognition and their ‘attractive appearance’ as one TV station put it.”

Max Lane believes the unpopularity of traditional politicians forced the parties to seek the help of popular individuals:

“Another manifestation of the cynicism towards all the parties is that the parties themselves, having picked up on how much they are disliked, have increasingly put forward candidates not associated with them historically. Thus they nominate showbiz celebrities, religious figures, academics and other non-party community personalities.”

The RAB Experience discusses “celebrity politics” in Indonesia:

“The Indonesian parliament has a good cross-section of the Indonesian entertainment industry populating its halls of power. As Indonesia enters into an election cycle the political horse trading that goes on to get candidates into the fold will start in earnest. In a country with a population of more than 220 million and myriad gossip shows the reality is that celebrities are often much more recognizable than politicians.”

Diaz Hendropriyono highlights the notable difference of showbiz candidates in Indonesia compared to other countries:

“Although there are celebrities running for political offices in other countries such as what is found in Indonesia, there is still one notable difference: The majority of Indonesian celebrities seem reluctant to run for local executive head and are more comfortable to be number two.

“The small number of celebrities who run for regional head may create negative impressions. The public may judge that these actors do not have the confidence to manage a government, thus they need to be coupled with someone who has experience in public administration and policy. Doubtless, this will eventually hurt the artists’ reputations.”

Some analysts are confident Indonesians will vote wisely:

“To avoid further electoral deterioration, many parties are seeking a shortcut. Perhaps inspired by the general perception that the majority of voters are simple people, to whom political issues do not really matter, celebrities — simply because of their popularity — are invited to save the party’s popularity by serving as vote-collecting spearheads.

“Theoretically, this line of logic might work. In practice, however, the public is not dumb enough to choose a comedian over an economist, a model over an NGO activist, or a soap-opera star over a political analyst.”

What are the reactions of ordinary Indonesians and bloggers?

Voice of Indonesia admires actress Marissa Haque who has been active in politics since 2004:

“I love her act. She's so natural, relaxed and flexible in front of the camera. I don't know much about Marissa. I only know she's a good and dedicated actress. No matter who you are, what your background, if you can deliver our voice clearly, you deserve to be there…be a parliament member.”

Inem Sukoco describes Indonesian politics as a “political opera”.

“In the last few days the media reported about the political opera, where some actors turned their ‘way of life’ as politicians. I’d rather call it as “political opera”. Since political opera and play opera are almost the same, it’s only about playing the character. Play it as great as possible, so that the audience will give a big applause.”

“They have their huge fans. Is there any other reasonable reasons? Not at all. They even have no political knowledge. All they know is just ‘how to entertain, not how to lead'. You can see it everytime they were interviewed. They acted like a fool. Can you imagine? What we can expect from incapable leaders. Nothing but popularity.”

“Though in fact, there's no much difference between play and politics. As seen on TV, or other media, how many politicians act in huge political opera, misuse of power, make a fool of people, cheating, corrupting here, there and everywhere. Playing the people's emotion. What about acting on play? Almost the same. They only need to act in nice way, so that they can play the audience's emotion.”

Former Miss Indonesia winner Angelina Sondakh is now a politician. She is also at the same time a blogger. Soap opera actor and model Adrian Maulana has a Facebook account. He will run in the elections next year.

Actress and candidate Wulan Guritno is now blogging. Her blog attracted various comments from many individuals. Some wants her to forget politics and “keep her day job” as an actress:

“I admire your honesty, your heart is in the right place. But why do you expose yourself to so much vulnerability over the internet? Honestly I love you as an actress, but you write like a high school kid, at best. I'm speaking not to deliberately hurt you, but call it as it is. How could you expect people to take you seriously when you don't know how to articulate yourself with words… bad grammar, run on sentences… etc. After all, you are considering politics. You need to learn to develop a thick skin among other things. Like I said I admire your honesty, but yeah, I agree with a previous comment…Keep your day job.”

She was called a “childish adult”.

“Reading your posting, it's obvious for me that you are such a kind of childish adult. Your way of thinking, sorry if this hurts you, but it's too plain. Being people representative needs a very well and long thinking.

“I don't know anything about politics and I don't have any right to judge you just from your way to write, but I do hope that your honesty that lead you to become a people representative will be useful when you've become a people representative later.”

Others support her pledge to improve the political situation in Indonesia:

“If you believe that you have those three: power, chance and clue. Then go for it. This country is already a mess, we've got nothing more to lose. I myself don't have power/chance/clue how to make political situation better, so I'll just sit here and wait for a miracle to come….just like most people.

“Oh just one last thing; you might be sincere now, but be aware that the politics can turn you just as ugly in no time. Soon you'll be nothing more than a politician with no people.”

Konnichiwa beaches challenges Guritno:

“Your premise that everything in life is about 50/50 chances is at best what I call bullshit and at worst just downright wrong.

“Becoming a representative of a large group of people (people who apparently you're not even familiar with) requires 100% commitment. Being a legislative rep is not gambling. It’s not about your comfort zone. And it’s definitely not about you, Wulan.

“Can you state your visions and mission in clear and well written, well spoken Indonesian?

“What sets you apart from the other celebrities running for a seat?”