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	<title>Comments on: Lebanon: Homosexuality in Lebanon</title>
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		<title>By: bahaa</title>
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		<dc:creator>bahaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 17:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m against anyone who thinks negatively on homosexuality!! bcz this might be a psychological or a biological problem!!!so plz stop considering gays and lesbians as taboos....cz we must not judge humans only god judges us. Ok???!!!!We must have our freedom like anyone ELSE here in LEBANON!!!!cz LEBANON is a place for everyone (Lesbians - Gays - Straight - Bisexuals ) soo plz leave us alone(anyone who thinks negatively on homosexuality) and stop saying that we are taboos to the society!!!!thank you...
cz i had enough!!! i was reading other websites that are considering us as sinners and i had enough with it!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m against anyone who thinks negatively on homosexuality!! bcz this might be a psychological or a biological problem!!!so plz stop considering gays and lesbians as taboos&#8230;.cz we must not judge humans only god judges us. Ok???!!!!We must have our freedom like anyone ELSE here in LEBANON!!!!cz LEBANON is a place for everyone (Lesbians &#8211; Gays &#8211; Straight &#8211; Bisexuals ) soo plz leave us alone(anyone who thinks negatively on homosexuality) and stop saying that we are taboos to the society!!!!thank you&#8230;<br />
cz i had enough!!! i was reading other websites that are considering us as sinners and i had enough with it!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mido aka Mazaj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mido aka Mazaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 02:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nash
Thanks for mentioning my blog here.
Yes, it is hard to be gay in the Middle East in General.
I just have one request, its &quot;Mazaj&quot; not &quot;Majaz&quot;, so please correct that.
Thanks
Mido</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nash<br />
Thanks for mentioning my blog here.<br />
Yes, it is hard to be gay in the Middle East in General.<br />
I just have one request, its &#8220;Mazaj&#8221; not &#8220;Majaz&#8221;, so please correct that.<br />
Thanks<br />
Mido</p>
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		<title>By: Hazel Blears&#8217; Hansard Society talk about Grassroots Engagement not Streamed Online. Why not? &#124; The Wardman Wire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hazel Blears&#8217; Hansard Society talk about Grassroots Engagement not Streamed Online. Why not? &#124; The Wardman Wire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And here is a blog article about Homosexuality in Lebanon. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: onlylebnane</title>
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		<dc:creator>onlylebnane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article attracted my attention but to be honest I would have liked the owner of it to have more details on the way homosexuality is being done in Lebanon. I know a guy who is a friend also that is gay, he has tried through various ways including clubs like Acid and websites like manjam to find a decent relation. The result was very bad in many ways, sure some do have good relations but rare as all the rest are either money oriented or drugs. Now as for the police and the raids they make are subject to VIP availability (that can not be touched) and or money paid to many police officials. Note that these are facts and not an opinion. I have no issues regarding homosexuality but I do have an issue that homosexual people use their places of meetings or their way of life for trading. This only makes it harder for decent homosexuals who only want to live a clean life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article attracted my attention but to be honest I would have liked the owner of it to have more details on the way homosexuality is being done in Lebanon. I know a guy who is a friend also that is gay, he has tried through various ways including clubs like Acid and websites like manjam to find a decent relation. The result was very bad in many ways, sure some do have good relations but rare as all the rest are either money oriented or drugs. Now as for the police and the raids they make are subject to VIP availability (that can not be touched) and or money paid to many police officials. Note that these are facts and not an opinion. I have no issues regarding homosexuality but I do have an issue that homosexual people use their places of meetings or their way of life for trading. This only makes it harder for decent homosexuals who only want to live a clean life.</p>
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		<title>By: Nash Suleiman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nash Suleiman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me start off my saying thanks to all of you chipping in with your comments. I don&#039;t usually  comment or reply to any since I believe i did my share of input by writing this piece and I should leave the space for more people to use, and not to mention that most of the post are quotes from their original source, so they are the one worthy of comments.But in this situation, I think I owe it to you guys, so here it goes:

As for not mentioning Israel, I didn&#039;t understand whether Marc meant that I should have mentioned Israel or he is telling to NOT TO mention Israel in ordering-kinda way. But I think Marc is right for Israel can&#039;t be included in this formula for many reasons. But I would also like to add and clear that I unintentionally assumed the reader would conclude that when I meant Middle East, I meant the Arab world, where Christianity and Islam have the utmost influence. And of course I have very little knowledge of the Jewish community and Israeli reactions to homosexuality. That&#039;s been said, I am sure when the Israeli authors get the time, a post should be published about this issue in Israel for us to have a general true idea on this topic.

Fares, Thank you mate for this feedback, I agree and that&#039;s it why I wanted to shed the light on the Lebanese gays for they do enjoy a great freedom compared to the region. Unfortunately though, during my round up I didn&#039;t find a single post that anyone could have posted regarding the bounces a homosexual get in Lebanon, for they all seem to focus on the negative. I am strongly against posts that consists of ranting without offering a solution or an alternative, and that is why I introduced the piece by praising Lebanon&#039;s way of dealing with homosexuality, well again by comparison. 

Clara, thank you for you support and I think this is what all members and readers of GV are trying to do here, spread the message and awareness. I hope by reading my response to Fares you will get the answer to your comment. Again thank you and let me know if any good posts or blogs comes your way that might help our cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me start off my saying thanks to all of you chipping in with your comments. I don&#8217;t usually  comment or reply to any since I believe i did my share of input by writing this piece and I should leave the space for more people to use, and not to mention that most of the post are quotes from their original source, so they are the one worthy of comments.But in this situation, I think I owe it to you guys, so here it goes:</p>
<p>As for not mentioning Israel, I didn&#8217;t understand whether Marc meant that I should have mentioned Israel or he is telling to NOT TO mention Israel in ordering-kinda way. But I think Marc is right for Israel can&#8217;t be included in this formula for many reasons. But I would also like to add and clear that I unintentionally assumed the reader would conclude that when I meant Middle East, I meant the Arab world, where Christianity and Islam have the utmost influence. And of course I have very little knowledge of the Jewish community and Israeli reactions to homosexuality. That&#8217;s been said, I am sure when the Israeli authors get the time, a post should be published about this issue in Israel for us to have a general true idea on this topic.</p>
<p>Fares, Thank you mate for this feedback, I agree and that&#8217;s it why I wanted to shed the light on the Lebanese gays for they do enjoy a great freedom compared to the region. Unfortunately though, during my round up I didn&#8217;t find a single post that anyone could have posted regarding the bounces a homosexual get in Lebanon, for they all seem to focus on the negative. I am strongly against posts that consists of ranting without offering a solution or an alternative, and that is why I introduced the piece by praising Lebanon&#8217;s way of dealing with homosexuality, well again by comparison. </p>
<p>Clara, thank you for you support and I think this is what all members and readers of GV are trying to do here, spread the message and awareness. I hope by reading my response to Fares you will get the answer to your comment. Again thank you and let me know if any good posts or blogs comes your way that might help our cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Clara Onofre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clara Onofre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Nash,
i liked this post because of the subject you brought here. It is important to know about subjects like this in order to enlight people and to end prejudice. I agree with the comment made by Fares because it´s always interesting to know the the two sides of this matter.
People don´t talk much about homosexuality in countries like Lebanon, so i was really happy to read your post</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Nash,<br />
i liked this post because of the subject you brought here. It is important to know about subjects like this in order to enlight people and to end prejudice. I agree with the comment made by Fares because it´s always interesting to know the the two sides of this matter.<br />
People don´t talk much about homosexuality in countries like Lebanon, so i was really happy to read your post</p>
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		<title>By: Fares</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly: interesting article.
But it seems to be a regular trend for most writers discussing homosexuality in Lebanon to only mention the negative factors, disregarding the numerous examples of successful openness among gay men and lesbians. It is not rare for homosexuals here to enjoy a comfortable, livable, relaxed environment. It is not unusual for gay people to spend a night in Gemaizeh and not get harassed. As a matter of fact, from my experiences, verbal abuse is as far as it goes with most gay people I know. And even that is rare.

Yes, the cases and stories listed above are true and harsh. But I would guess that, for the most part, little more happened over the past few years. Yes, you&#039;ll always have the shady neighborhoods with disgustingly ignorant guys who will forever poke fun at the gay community. Those exist everywhere, all the time. Yes, there will be police officers questioning gay people all the time. Either because they want to sleep with them, or because they have doubts about their sobriety.
Gay people in Lebanon - and usually rightly so - are often and normally associated with drugs, sexual indecency, and prostitution. Okay, gay people in the world are often assumed to fit one (or more) of those illegalities. That&#039;s why they get stopped. Acid and X-OM were most probably raided for the same reasons BO18 had been raided. If anything, those two got raided less times than BO and its like, only because of the stigma associated with &quot;they&#039;re raiding a gay club&quot;.

Point is, there are issues, but they sound a lot worse when taken out of context. There are cases of abuse, but there are many more cases of the absence of abuse; cases of tolerance.
In general, you get one sob story for every 10 good stories. And two great successes for every 10 good stories. I would think those should be mentioned as often in articles discussing the universal situation of homosexuality in Lebanon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly: interesting article.<br />
But it seems to be a regular trend for most writers discussing homosexuality in Lebanon to only mention the negative factors, disregarding the numerous examples of successful openness among gay men and lesbians. It is not rare for homosexuals here to enjoy a comfortable, livable, relaxed environment. It is not unusual for gay people to spend a night in Gemaizeh and not get harassed. As a matter of fact, from my experiences, verbal abuse is as far as it goes with most gay people I know. And even that is rare.</p>
<p>Yes, the cases and stories listed above are true and harsh. But I would guess that, for the most part, little more happened over the past few years. Yes, you&#8217;ll always have the shady neighborhoods with disgustingly ignorant guys who will forever poke fun at the gay community. Those exist everywhere, all the time. Yes, there will be police officers questioning gay people all the time. Either because they want to sleep with them, or because they have doubts about their sobriety.<br />
Gay people in Lebanon &#8211; and usually rightly so &#8211; are often and normally associated with drugs, sexual indecency, and prostitution. Okay, gay people in the world are often assumed to fit one (or more) of those illegalities. That&#8217;s why they get stopped. Acid and X-OM were most probably raided for the same reasons BO18 had been raided. If anything, those two got raided less times than BO and its like, only because of the stigma associated with &#8220;they&#8217;re raiding a gay club&#8221;.</p>
<p>Point is, there are issues, but they sound a lot worse when taken out of context. There are cases of abuse, but there are many more cases of the absence of abuse; cases of tolerance.<br />
In general, you get one sob story for every 10 good stories. And two great successes for every 10 good stories. I would think those should be mentioned as often in articles discussing the universal situation of homosexuality in Lebanon.</p>
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		<title>By: oyzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>oyzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 08:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and israel doesnt exist aslan....he3 :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and israel doesnt exist aslan&#8230;.he3 :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 21:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Of course Israel, unlike its neighbors&quot; blah blah blah... you feel special Marc? Superior, maybe?
Didn&#039;t the article clarify that homosexuals aren&#039;t imprisoned in Lebanon? If anything, they&#039;re detained for questioning because they were in openly gay and well-known drug-filled clubs... Let&#039;s not jump to conclusions here.

Oh and Marc, Israel&#039;s got the cleanest human rights record in the world and especially in the Middle East... NOT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Of course Israel, unlike its neighbors&#8221; blah blah blah&#8230; you feel special Marc? Superior, maybe?<br />
Didn&#8217;t the article clarify that homosexuals aren&#8217;t imprisoned in Lebanon? If anything, they&#8217;re detained for questioning because they were in openly gay and well-known drug-filled clubs&#8230; Let&#8217;s not jump to conclusions here.</p>
<p>Oh and Marc, Israel&#8217;s got the cleanest human rights record in the world and especially in the Middle East&#8230; NOT!</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 12:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t mention Israel.  While orthadox Jews also consider homosexuality a sin, there is a large gay population in cities like Tel Aviv. Yes, gay bars as well.  Of course Israel, unlike its neighbors, doesn&#039;t imprison gays.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t mention Israel.  While orthadox Jews also consider homosexuality a sin, there is a large gay population in cities like Tel Aviv. Yes, gay bars as well.  Of course Israel, unlike its neighbors, doesn&#8217;t imprison gays.  Thanks.</p>
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