Comments on: Thailand: People’s coup or putsch? http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/30/thailand-people%e2%80%99s-coup-or-putsch/ The world is talking. Are you listening? Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:15:58 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Global Voices in Italiano » Thailandia: diverse camicie colorate per diverse fazioni politiche http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/30/thailand-people%e2%80%99s-coup-or-putsch/comment-page-1/#comment-1563111 Global Voices in Italiano » Thailandia: diverse camicie colorate per diverse fazioni politiche Wed, 15 Apr 2009 03:10:46 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=49294#comment-1563111 [...] Thaksin. Per forzare un cambiamento nel governo, le Camicie gialle hanno organizzato provocatorie azioni di strada [in] lo scorso agosto. Hanno occupato il Palazzo del Governo per diversi mesi. A dicembra hanno [...] [...] Thaksin. Per forzare un cambiamento nel governo, le Camicie gialle hanno organizzato provocatorie azioni di strada [in] lo scorso agosto. Hanno occupato il Palazzo del Governo per diversi mesi. A dicembra hanno [...]

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Thailand: Rallies and Twitter updates http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/30/thailand-people%e2%80%99s-coup-or-putsch/comment-page-1/#comment-1534153 Global Voices Online » Thailand: Rallies and Twitter updates Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:19:40 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=49294#comment-1534153 [...] background information about PAD and the political crisis in Thailand, read Conflict of elites and People’s coup or putsch. Posted by Mong Palatino  Print Version Share [...] [...] background information about PAD and the political crisis in Thailand, read Conflict of elites and People’s coup or putsch. Posted by Mong Palatino  Print Version Share [...]

]]> By: Gary http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/30/thailand-people%e2%80%99s-coup-or-putsch/comment-page-1/#comment-1510560 Gary Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:36:11 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=49294#comment-1510560 Ok i am responding to brian... the first poster... He has lived in Thailand for 15 years yet knows nothing of thai people or for that matter people in general... I married Thai as well and havent lived there nearly as long but I can tell you that no two Thai is the same... the different regions bring a slew of cultural differences... This is just natural of people that are spread apart... To find these protests shocking is by no means surprising... Showing Anger? loosing face? come the hell on man... Thai culture has one commonality all around the country...and that is its reliance on interpersonal relationships... This is why your wife and family act this way... they are afraid to take sides in the event someone may think bad about them... Not everyone cares as much and are strong in there convictions unlike any other culture ive been around... you could say stubborn but that isnt very nice... And by the way... no one is going to deport you for voicing your opinion... because you reside there you are protected under there constitution just as they are... and it does happen to govern free speech... Samak and Taksin are part of the International banker elite and there is no way any freedom movement will stop them with all the resources they have... despite PADs alleged association with the Chinese Mafia... The strife will end soon enough and probably for the better at least for another year or so... The bankers always come back Ok i am responding to brian… the first poster… He has lived in Thailand for 15 years yet knows nothing of thai people or for that matter people in general… I married Thai as well and havent lived there nearly as long but I can tell you that no two Thai is the same… the different regions bring a slew of cultural differences… This is just natural of people that are spread apart… To find these protests shocking is by no means surprising… Showing Anger? loosing face? come the hell on man… Thai culture has one commonality all around the country…and that is its reliance on interpersonal relationships… This is why your wife and family act this way… they are afraid to take sides in the event someone may think bad about them… Not everyone cares as much and are strong in there convictions unlike any other culture ive been around… you could say stubborn but that isnt very nice…

And by the way… no one is going to deport you for voicing your opinion… because you reside there you are protected under there constitution just as they are… and it does happen to govern free speech…

Samak and Taksin are part of the International banker elite and there is no way any freedom movement will stop them with all the resources they have… despite PADs alleged association with the Chinese Mafia… The strife will end soon enough and probably for the better at least for another year or so… The bankers always come back

]]> By: Ralph Cramden http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/30/thailand-people%e2%80%99s-coup-or-putsch/comment-page-1/#comment-1510334 Ralph Cramden Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:27:46 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=49294#comment-1510334 You got one quote serious wrong when you state The activists accused Samak of being a puppet of ousted Thai leader Thaksin Shinawatra. One of the most popular slogans in the rallies is this: “Monarchy, Nation, and Samak you are bad.” THe point of the original was that the demonstrators support the monarchy and nation and think that Samak is bad. As hyper-nationalists and royalists, the PAD certainly does not have the slogan you create. You got one quote serious wrong when you state

The activists accused Samak of being a puppet of ousted Thai leader Thaksin Shinawatra. One of the most popular slogans in the rallies is this: “Monarchy, Nation, and Samak you are bad.”

THe point of the original was that the demonstrators support the monarchy and nation and think that Samak is bad. As hyper-nationalists and royalists, the PAD certainly does not have the slogan you create.

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Thailand: Protesters misunderstood by Western media? http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/30/thailand-people%e2%80%99s-coup-or-putsch/comment-page-1/#comment-1509308 Global Voices Online » Thailand: Protesters misunderstood by Western media? Mon, 01 Sep 2008 02:59:08 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=49294#comment-1509308 [...] news: Airports have been re-opened in Thailand. Bad news: The political crisis is far from [...] [...] news: Airports have been re-opened in Thailand. Bad news: The political crisis is far from [...]

]]> By: Heri http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/30/thailand-people%e2%80%99s-coup-or-putsch/comment-page-1/#comment-1508340 Heri Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:28:55 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=49294#comment-1508340 PM Samak demanding? It's make the coup by peoples. Peoples want to clean goverment from Thaksin Regime ... but the fact is differing! PM Samak demanding? It’s make the coup by peoples. Peoples want to clean goverment from Thaksin Regime … but the fact is differing!

]]> By: Brian Shroder http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/30/thailand-people%e2%80%99s-coup-or-putsch/comment-page-1/#comment-1508094 Brian Shroder Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:00:12 +0000 http://globalvoicesonline.org/?p=49294#comment-1508094 I am a North American, living in Thailand for the past 15 years. The majority of Thais I know are very soft spoken, so to see these protests, I know it goes directly against the Nature of most of the Nationals here. There is also a Realistic fear of the Police and Legal system here ( example : Victory Monument Massacre ). Even the previous Prime Minister has left the country due to his fear of the current Legal system. Any negative talk of the Government, Politics, Police or Military is said in a Hushed Tone. I am not writing in support of the PAD, since that would surely be cause for my removal from this Beautifwl Country , NIETHER will I speak in opposition of the current government, for the same reasons.. My Thai wife, her family, and our friends, who are mostly common Thai people, are all very excited about the changes that could result from these actions , but still live in fear of voicing their opinion aloud. They even wisper in our home as the current affairs are discussed , and the TV is kept at low volume while watching the 100% Gov't Controlled Broadcasts and News. Even in an interview in the Market, my wife lied , feeling that she was being watched, and that the News people were Government personnel. What I have read in some of this forum makes me realize how much Mis-information is available, and question its real origin. For these people to stand and fight , even though they are in great fear of the existing powers, only proves the depth of their anger.A NOTE ** To show anger in this Culture, means to ''lose Face'' , and to ''lose Face'' is avoided at all costs , But I guess they think this situation is worth the personal sacrafice.. I am a North American, living in Thailand for the past 15 years. The majority of Thais I know are very soft spoken, so to see these protests, I know it goes directly against the Nature of most of the Nationals here.
There is also a Realistic fear of the Police and Legal system here ( example : Victory Monument Massacre ).
Even the previous Prime Minister has left the country due to his fear of the current Legal system.
Any negative talk of the Government, Politics, Police or Military is said in a Hushed Tone.
I am not writing in support of the PAD, since that would surely be cause for my removal from this Beautifwl Country , NIETHER will I speak in opposition of the current government, for the same reasons..
My Thai wife, her family, and our friends, who are mostly common Thai people, are all very excited about the changes that could result from these actions , but still live in fear of voicing their opinion aloud. They even wisper in our home as the current affairs are discussed , and the TV is kept at low volume while watching the 100% Gov’t Controlled Broadcasts and News.
Even in an interview in the Market, my wife lied , feeling that she was being watched, and that the News people were Government personnel.
What I have read in some of this forum makes me realize how much Mis-information is available, and question its real origin.
For these people to stand and fight , even though they are in great fear of the existing powers, only proves the depth of their anger.A NOTE ** To show anger in this Culture, means to ”lose Face” , and to ”lose Face” is avoided at all costs , But I guess they think this situation is worth the personal sacrafice..

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