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	<title>Comments on: China: Citizen reporter to be deported</title>
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		<title>By: Shackabra</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/10/china-citizen-reporter-to-be-deported/comment-page-4/#comment-1510439</link>
		<dc:creator>Shackabra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My dear Shackabra, you have deliberately suggested religious violence and have mentioned violent Tibetans and Uyghurs. You hope clearly that violent Tibetans and Uyghurs backed by Al Queda will damage and destroy China. But you will be disappointed because the majority of the Americans and Europeans love China and will support China in its fight against terrorism. There are, of course, the minority misguided celebrities like Richard Gere, Nancy Pelosi and Sharon Stone, who was very happy that so many people had died because of karma in the Sichuan earthquake, and indirectly in other disasters all over the world.&quot;

Okay first off lets get some things strait. Nancy Pelosi is a politician not a celebrity. Sharon Stone is Sharon Stone, everything she says you must take with a lot of salt. I know for a fact that these too where not happy when they heard about the quake. I know I was not. Such loss of life is tragic and horrible.

You also said that I &quot;clearly&quot; hope that violence will ensue China, which is certainly not the case. You may have misunderstood me. I was merely stating that when a minority is ignored, violence is usually the result.

Yes, most europeans and americans support any cause against terrorism but that does not mean that they love China. Many blue-collar workers in the west are not so happy as you believe because their jobs were outsourced to countries such as China and Taiwan.


Perhaps instead of bickering back and forth, (we are going nowhere this way), we could state each other&#039;s position and where we are coming to each other. Which would force us to listen.

Are you open to this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My dear Shackabra, you have deliberately suggested religious violence and have mentioned violent Tibetans and Uyghurs. You hope clearly that violent Tibetans and Uyghurs backed by Al Queda will damage and destroy China. But you will be disappointed because the majority of the Americans and Europeans love China and will support China in its fight against terrorism. There are, of course, the minority misguided celebrities like Richard Gere, Nancy Pelosi and Sharon Stone, who was very happy that so many people had died because of karma in the Sichuan earthquake, and indirectly in other disasters all over the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay first off lets get some things strait. Nancy Pelosi is a politician not a celebrity. Sharon Stone is Sharon Stone, everything she says you must take with a lot of salt. I know for a fact that these too where not happy when they heard about the quake. I know I was not. Such loss of life is tragic and horrible.</p>
<p>You also said that I &#8220;clearly&#8221; hope that violence will ensue China, which is certainly not the case. You may have misunderstood me. I was merely stating that when a minority is ignored, violence is usually the result.</p>
<p>Yes, most europeans and americans support any cause against terrorism but that does not mean that they love China. Many blue-collar workers in the west are not so happy as you believe because their jobs were outsourced to countries such as China and Taiwan.</p>
<p>Perhaps instead of bickering back and forth, (we are going nowhere this way), we could state each other&#8217;s position and where we are coming to each other. Which would force us to listen.</p>
<p>Are you open to this?</p>
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		<title>By: chan</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/10/china-citizen-reporter-to-be-deported/comment-page-4/#comment-1505098</link>
		<dc:creator>chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can clearly see How the name of &quot;human right &amp; freedom&quot; was being used by west</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can clearly see How the name of &#8220;human right &amp; freedom&#8221; was being used by west</p>
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		<title>By: Tan Lye Huat</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/10/china-citizen-reporter-to-be-deported/comment-page-4/#comment-1505063</link>
		<dc:creator>Tan Lye Huat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Shackabra, Thanks for your point of view. It&#039;s good to engage in healthy and fair exchange. You may wish to note that China has 56 ethnic groups, the Han being the majority, forming about 90 percent. One minority group, the Manchus, were in power for about 300 years. While in power, they adopted the Han culture, and after the 1949 revolution, many of them gave up their &#039;Manchu-ness&#039; and ignored their culture. Chinese leaders were alarmed and had made it a point to promote Manchurian culture.

Before Mao Zedong had set free the Tibetan serfs, they lived in poverty and were indoctrinated by their religion to accept their fate. To get an idea of what serfdom was, you just need to look at the source where it had come from: India. Today, the caste system is still very well alive in India. To get a good at Lamaism, just compare it with Buddhism. Buddha&#039;s face is always that serene, that compassionate, but the faces of the Tibetan gods are very fierce, scary and greenish. You cannot deny seeing yelling, combative Tibetans tearing down or setting fire to buildings, or struggling with the Nepalese police, their kind hosts. A true Buddhist monk would not do such a thing. Yet, the human rights activists have never done anything more vigorous to help the poor Indians discriminated by the caste system. Instead they have been supporting the disgruntled Tibetans living outside China in the hope of restoring Tibetan serfdom.

Western culture has enriched mankind by drawing a line between religion and secularism, and many great, heroic Europeans had paid with their lives so as to achieve their ideal and benefit future generations. Now, the human rights activists want China to let the Dalai Lama rule Tibet as both the religious head and KING. This hypocrisy of the human rights activists is far too blatant.

My dear Shackabra, you have deliberately suggested religious violence and have mentioned violent Tibetans and Uyghurs. You hope clearly that violent Tibetans and Uyghurs backed by Al Queda will damage and destroy China. But you will be disappointed because the majority of the Americans and Europeans love China and will support China in its fight against terrorism. There are, of course, the minority misguided celebrities like Richard Gere, Nancy Pelosi and Sharon Stone, who was very happy that so many people had died because of karma in the Sichuan earthquake, and indirectly in other disasters all over the world.

My dear Shackabra, Please do not ever advocate violence and please help the poor Indians in India, the impoverish all over the world, etc. China has more than 5,000 years of recorded history and has been under the influence of the magnanimous Confucius for more than 2,500 years. Human rights activists should never never teach their grandmother to suck eggs. They should divert their resources to better uses like feeding the hungry in Philippines, Cambodia, Indonesia and many African and Latin American countries.

Chinese people think in terms of thousands of years. When the late Bingxin, a renown Christian writer known for her children&#039;s essays, was asked whether she felt angry to have been vilified during the Cultural Revolution, she retorted: &#039;China has a history of 5,000 years. What&#039;s that suffering of a few years?&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Shackabra, Thanks for your point of view. It&#8217;s good to engage in healthy and fair exchange. You may wish to note that China has 56 ethnic groups, the Han being the majority, forming about 90 percent. One minority group, the Manchus, were in power for about 300 years. While in power, they adopted the Han culture, and after the 1949 revolution, many of them gave up their &#8216;Manchu-ness&#8217; and ignored their culture. Chinese leaders were alarmed and had made it a point to promote Manchurian culture.</p>
<p>Before Mao Zedong had set free the Tibetan serfs, they lived in poverty and were indoctrinated by their religion to accept their fate. To get an idea of what serfdom was, you just need to look at the source where it had come from: India. Today, the caste system is still very well alive in India. To get a good at Lamaism, just compare it with Buddhism. Buddha&#8217;s face is always that serene, that compassionate, but the faces of the Tibetan gods are very fierce, scary and greenish. You cannot deny seeing yelling, combative Tibetans tearing down or setting fire to buildings, or struggling with the Nepalese police, their kind hosts. A true Buddhist monk would not do such a thing. Yet, the human rights activists have never done anything more vigorous to help the poor Indians discriminated by the caste system. Instead they have been supporting the disgruntled Tibetans living outside China in the hope of restoring Tibetan serfdom.</p>
<p>Western culture has enriched mankind by drawing a line between religion and secularism, and many great, heroic Europeans had paid with their lives so as to achieve their ideal and benefit future generations. Now, the human rights activists want China to let the Dalai Lama rule Tibet as both the religious head and KING. This hypocrisy of the human rights activists is far too blatant.</p>
<p>My dear Shackabra, you have deliberately suggested religious violence and have mentioned violent Tibetans and Uyghurs. You hope clearly that violent Tibetans and Uyghurs backed by Al Queda will damage and destroy China. But you will be disappointed because the majority of the Americans and Europeans love China and will support China in its fight against terrorism. There are, of course, the minority misguided celebrities like Richard Gere, Nancy Pelosi and Sharon Stone, who was very happy that so many people had died because of karma in the Sichuan earthquake, and indirectly in other disasters all over the world.</p>
<p>My dear Shackabra, Please do not ever advocate violence and please help the poor Indians in India, the impoverish all over the world, etc. China has more than 5,000 years of recorded history and has been under the influence of the magnanimous Confucius for more than 2,500 years. Human rights activists should never never teach their grandmother to suck eggs. They should divert their resources to better uses like feeding the hungry in Philippines, Cambodia, Indonesia and many African and Latin American countries.</p>
<p>Chinese people think in terms of thousands of years. When the late Bingxin, a renown Christian writer known for her children&#8217;s essays, was asked whether she felt angry to have been vilified during the Cultural Revolution, she retorted: &#8216;China has a history of 5,000 years. What&#8217;s that suffering of a few years?&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: shackabra</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/10/china-citizen-reporter-to-be-deported/comment-page-4/#comment-1504788</link>
		<dc:creator>shackabra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To my dearest Tan Lye Huat. You have said the following, 

&quot;China has no place for the individualism that the West preaches. It is a society that will not allow a minority of disgruntled desperadoes to upset the peace of the majority.&quot;

There in lies the problem. When a country embraces this type of mentality it alienates the minority(s). You might say,&quot; So what, the majority is still happy and I am still in power.&quot; However prolonged use of this policy can really stir up severe disgruntled feelings in the minority. This in turn generally causes the minority after a certain amount of time to take increasing action of some sort (usually it is violence, just be lucky however that the Tibetans have embraced relative non-violence. The Uighurs are another story). Now this action once severe enough will begin to infringe upon the majority&#039;s peace. A example of this is Israel and Palestine. Even better was the conflict between the Hutus and Tutsis.

In short continued agitation between Tibet, the Uighurs, and the CCP can only result in the destruction of peace that many in China enjoy.


Oh, one more thing, you claim that the Tibet has been a part of China since the Yuan Dynasty. However true that may be it is not history&#039;s duty to decide who a people belong to. 

Let the minority decide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To my dearest Tan Lye Huat. You have said the following, </p>
<p>&#8220;China has no place for the individualism that the West preaches. It is a society that will not allow a minority of disgruntled desperadoes to upset the peace of the majority.&#8221;</p>
<p>There in lies the problem. When a country embraces this type of mentality it alienates the minority(s). You might say,&#8221; So what, the majority is still happy and I am still in power.&#8221; However prolonged use of this policy can really stir up severe disgruntled feelings in the minority. This in turn generally causes the minority after a certain amount of time to take increasing action of some sort (usually it is violence, just be lucky however that the Tibetans have embraced relative non-violence. The Uighurs are another story). Now this action once severe enough will begin to infringe upon the majority&#8217;s peace. A example of this is Israel and Palestine. Even better was the conflict between the Hutus and Tutsis.</p>
<p>In short continued agitation between Tibet, the Uighurs, and the CCP can only result in the destruction of peace that many in China enjoy.</p>
<p>Oh, one more thing, you claim that the Tibet has been a part of China since the Yuan Dynasty. However true that may be it is not history&#8217;s duty to decide who a people belong to. </p>
<p>Let the minority decide.</p>
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		<title>By: chan</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/10/china-citizen-reporter-to-be-deported/comment-page-4/#comment-1502229</link>
		<dc:creator>chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 03:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MULAN,
Agreed with your comment #28, Chinese must be One, let hidden intention has NO any chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MULAN,<br />
Agreed with your comment #28, Chinese must be One, let hidden intention has NO any chance.</p>
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		<title>By: chan</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/10/china-citizen-reporter-to-be-deported/comment-page-4/#comment-1501617</link>
		<dc:creator>chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 05:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Barry # 27
&quot;Sooner of later, as is the case of all ditatorships, the Soviet Union for example,the Chinese Government will collapse under its own weight and the people will be free.&quot;

Yes, Brillant Mr. Tan Lye Huat. We have to keep watch out of this kind of evil intention and make some improvement internally for more Harmony or psychological defend....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Barry # 27<br />
&#8220;Sooner of later, as is the case of all ditatorships, the Soviet Union for example,the Chinese Government will collapse under its own weight and the people will be free.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, Brillant Mr. Tan Lye Huat. We have to keep watch out of this kind of evil intention and make some improvement internally for more Harmony or psychological defend&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tan Lye Huat</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/10/china-citizen-reporter-to-be-deported/comment-page-4/#comment-1501582</link>
		<dc:creator>Tan Lye Huat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 05:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dear Barry, You were fully misguided and were comparing apples with oranges. Hitler was condemned because of the anti-Semitic genocide that he had committed in addition to many other crimes. Today, nobody of sound mind would praise him. In no way could Hitler be compared with the great Chinese leader, Chairman Mao Zedong. 

Chairman Mao unified China and drove foreign imperialists out of the country. President Nixon and Dr Henry Kissinger were mesmerized by Mao&#039;s charisma when they visited China in 1972. Even Deng Xiaoping, who was twice vilified during that tumultuous period, said that Mao was seventy percent right but thirty percent wrong, when asked for his assessment of Mao. What&#039;s more, after Mao&#039;s death, Deng made a point of taking Mao&#039;s only undergraduate grandson to his home for dinner periodically. And this is despite the fact that Deng&#039;s son was thrown out of the window by the Red Guards and is now confined to a wheelchair.  Today, the Chinese people still respect Mao, and on my trips to Beijing, I had seen Tibetan youths in traditional costumes queuing to enter Mao&#039;s mausoleum. Everyone in China knew about the Cultural Revolution excesses, but the blame was put more on the Gang of Four than on Chairman Mao himself.

The Chinese have more than five thousand years of recorded history, and two thousand and five hundred years of exposure to the teachings of Confucius. Chinese society is a society of all people. China has no place for the individualism that the West preaches. It is a society that will not allow a minority of disgruntled desperadoes to upset the peace of the majority. The West has always tried to impose its individualistic views on China, having exterminated or marginalized the indigenous natives at home but failed to keep their conquered colonies in perpetuity. Human rights activists, who think highly of themselves, like to teach their grandmother to suck eggs. It is now time for them to know that many Chinese have studied overseas and exposed to Western culture. The Chinese do not need the West to tell them about censorship and propaganda.

My dear Barry, Isn&#039;t the recent Olympic Torch Relay an eye-opener for you? Don&#039;t you know China has the world&#039;s largest number of internet users? Perhaps you would choose not to know the truth but to live in a world of make-believe. But your hideous intent cannot escape from the watchful eyes of the Chinese: all you want is, as you have stated clearly, the collapse of China. Unfortunately, you will be very disappointed. Please just remember one thing: Chinese think in terms of thousands of years.

My dear Barry, Stop wasting your time on frivolity. Why not do something good for the poor people at home or overseas? Why not get rid of your hatred and prejudice, and embrace love and peace?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dear Barry, You were fully misguided and were comparing apples with oranges. Hitler was condemned because of the anti-Semitic genocide that he had committed in addition to many other crimes. Today, nobody of sound mind would praise him. In no way could Hitler be compared with the great Chinese leader, Chairman Mao Zedong. </p>
<p>Chairman Mao unified China and drove foreign imperialists out of the country. President Nixon and Dr Henry Kissinger were mesmerized by Mao&#8217;s charisma when they visited China in 1972. Even Deng Xiaoping, who was twice vilified during that tumultuous period, said that Mao was seventy percent right but thirty percent wrong, when asked for his assessment of Mao. What&#8217;s more, after Mao&#8217;s death, Deng made a point of taking Mao&#8217;s only undergraduate grandson to his home for dinner periodically. And this is despite the fact that Deng&#8217;s son was thrown out of the window by the Red Guards and is now confined to a wheelchair.  Today, the Chinese people still respect Mao, and on my trips to Beijing, I had seen Tibetan youths in traditional costumes queuing to enter Mao&#8217;s mausoleum. Everyone in China knew about the Cultural Revolution excesses, but the blame was put more on the Gang of Four than on Chairman Mao himself.</p>
<p>The Chinese have more than five thousand years of recorded history, and two thousand and five hundred years of exposure to the teachings of Confucius. Chinese society is a society of all people. China has no place for the individualism that the West preaches. It is a society that will not allow a minority of disgruntled desperadoes to upset the peace of the majority. The West has always tried to impose its individualistic views on China, having exterminated or marginalized the indigenous natives at home but failed to keep their conquered colonies in perpetuity. Human rights activists, who think highly of themselves, like to teach their grandmother to suck eggs. It is now time for them to know that many Chinese have studied overseas and exposed to Western culture. The Chinese do not need the West to tell them about censorship and propaganda.</p>
<p>My dear Barry, Isn&#8217;t the recent Olympic Torch Relay an eye-opener for you? Don&#8217;t you know China has the world&#8217;s largest number of internet users? Perhaps you would choose not to know the truth but to live in a world of make-believe. But your hideous intent cannot escape from the watchful eyes of the Chinese: all you want is, as you have stated clearly, the collapse of China. Unfortunately, you will be very disappointed. Please just remember one thing: Chinese think in terms of thousands of years.</p>
<p>My dear Barry, Stop wasting your time on frivolity. Why not do something good for the poor people at home or overseas? Why not get rid of your hatred and prejudice, and embrace love and peace?</p>
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		<title>By: chan</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/10/china-citizen-reporter-to-be-deported/comment-page-4/#comment-1501497</link>
		<dc:creator>chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Between extreme &quot;yes&quot; or &#039;no&quot;. They know how to choose &quot;moderate&quot; for their own progress and benefits for the nation and people</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between extreme &#8220;yes&#8221; or &#8216;no&#8221;. They know how to choose &#8220;moderate&#8221; for their own progress and benefits for the nation and people</p>
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		<title>By: chan</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/10/china-citizen-reporter-to-be-deported/comment-page-4/#comment-1501490</link>
		<dc:creator>chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry,
I said &quot;NO&quot; to your &quot;true ?&quot; Story</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry,<br />
I said &#8220;NO&#8221; to your &#8220;true ?&#8221; Story</p>
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		<title>By: Wei</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/10/china-citizen-reporter-to-be-deported/comment-page-4/#comment-1501459</link>
		<dc:creator>Wei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except these monkies are telling the Chinese 1/4 of their country are not theirs; and not even done in their own language.

Doesn&#039;t work too well ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except these monkies are telling the Chinese 1/4 of their country are not theirs; and not even done in their own language.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t work too well ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/10/china-citizen-reporter-to-be-deported/comment-page-3/#comment-1501410</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a true story from Germany in 1936. If people dont speak out when something is wrong then this will happen.  &quot;At first they came for the Jew , I was not Jewish so I said nothing , then they came for the communists , I was not a communist so I said nothing , then they came for the disabled , I was not disabled so I said nothing , then one day then came for me , and there was no one left to say anything &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a true story from Germany in 1936. If people dont speak out when something is wrong then this will happen.  &#8220;At first they came for the Jew , I was not Jewish so I said nothing , then they came for the communists , I was not a communist so I said nothing , then they came for the disabled , I was not disabled so I said nothing , then one day then came for me , and there was no one left to say anything &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Wei</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/10/china-citizen-reporter-to-be-deported/comment-page-3/#comment-1501393</link>
		<dc:creator>Wei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Barry,

Frankly, more and more people in China these day see what free people of the West are like and say no thanks :P

Hired monkeys climbing posts and hang signs of a foreign language in public do not help things either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Barry,</p>
<p>Frankly, more and more people in China these day see what free people of the West are like and say no thanks :P</p>
<p>Hired monkeys climbing posts and hang signs of a foreign language in public do not help things either.</p>
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		<title>By: MuLan</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/10/china-citizen-reporter-to-be-deported/comment-page-3/#comment-1501362</link>
		<dc:creator>MuLan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry, even when China gradually turning toward Democracy and eventually 100% democratic, your government&#039;s dream of getting of piece of China&#039;s land will NEVER EVER come true.  get it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry, even when China gradually turning toward Democracy and eventually 100% democratic, your government&#8217;s dream of getting of piece of China&#8217;s land will NEVER EVER come true.  get it?</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/10/china-citizen-reporter-to-be-deported/comment-page-3/#comment-1501337</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chinese people who protest against the Govenment of China are arresed and imprisoned and in many cases tortured, of course the state controlled media will not admit this to the public will they ? The Media in China is owned and operated by the government so only their point of view is seen. That said, Life is much more free in China now than it was under Mao and life in the coastal cities has also improved, but the fact still stands that people are not allowed the basic right to say &quot;I Disagree&quot; if it is against the CCP. And as for communism and the idea of all men are equal, then why do people that live in Shanghai for example have TVs and internet access while people living a few hundred miles inland do not have electric or running water, it totaly defeats the idea of communism, but the chinese government is making so much money now that they are turning capitalist. And to people here who support the Chinese Communist Party: you are so wrapped up in your dictatorships propaganda that you cannot think for yourselves, so then think about this, when Hitler came to power in Germany (One of the few times that Democracy has failed) The people who diasgreed with the Nazi Party were all killed or imprisoned including members from the Democratic AND Communist Parties of Germany, and gradually people in Germany became brainwashed by the Nazi Parties Propaganda and strongly believed that their government was in the right and everyone else was in the wrong, and because no one was brave enough to speak against the Nazi Party, the German people thought that eveything the Nazis said was gospel as there was nobody willing to say otherwize. The exact same thing is happening in China and because people wont speak against the goverment, many people then believe that the government can do no wrong and is always right. At the end of World War 2, Nazi Germany lay devasted but now Germany is one of the riched coutries in the world, the same with Japan (Who was our common enemy at the time) after it was defeated, Both Germany and Japan abandoned their ditatorship governments and became democracies, it just shows that a dictatorship can turn into a democracy and work. And what about the Tienamen Square Massacre, What excuse does the Communist Party have for that then, hundreds of students killed by machineguns and tanks all because they said they Disagreed with the communist party, Although i suppose people in China are not even allowed to speak about that are they ? It is beyond the reason of any civilised person why anyone would want to live under such a harsh and cruel regiem. Your leaders are just as bad as Hitler or Stalin or Hirihitto, who also brain washed their people. Sooner of later, as is the case of all ditatorships, the Soviet Union for example,the Chinese Government will collapse under its own weight and the people will be free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chinese people who protest against the Govenment of China are arresed and imprisoned and in many cases tortured, of course the state controlled media will not admit this to the public will they ? The Media in China is owned and operated by the government so only their point of view is seen. That said, Life is much more free in China now than it was under Mao and life in the coastal cities has also improved, but the fact still stands that people are not allowed the basic right to say &#8220;I Disagree&#8221; if it is against the CCP. And as for communism and the idea of all men are equal, then why do people that live in Shanghai for example have TVs and internet access while people living a few hundred miles inland do not have electric or running water, it totaly defeats the idea of communism, but the chinese government is making so much money now that they are turning capitalist. And to people here who support the Chinese Communist Party: you are so wrapped up in your dictatorships propaganda that you cannot think for yourselves, so then think about this, when Hitler came to power in Germany (One of the few times that Democracy has failed) The people who diasgreed with the Nazi Party were all killed or imprisoned including members from the Democratic AND Communist Parties of Germany, and gradually people in Germany became brainwashed by the Nazi Parties Propaganda and strongly believed that their government was in the right and everyone else was in the wrong, and because no one was brave enough to speak against the Nazi Party, the German people thought that eveything the Nazis said was gospel as there was nobody willing to say otherwize. The exact same thing is happening in China and because people wont speak against the goverment, many people then believe that the government can do no wrong and is always right. At the end of World War 2, Nazi Germany lay devasted but now Germany is one of the riched coutries in the world, the same with Japan (Who was our common enemy at the time) after it was defeated, Both Germany and Japan abandoned their ditatorship governments and became democracies, it just shows that a dictatorship can turn into a democracy and work. And what about the Tienamen Square Massacre, What excuse does the Communist Party have for that then, hundreds of students killed by machineguns and tanks all because they said they Disagreed with the communist party, Although i suppose people in China are not even allowed to speak about that are they ? It is beyond the reason of any civilised person why anyone would want to live under such a harsh and cruel regiem. Your leaders are just as bad as Hitler or Stalin or Hirihitto, who also brain washed their people. Sooner of later, as is the case of all ditatorships, the Soviet Union for example,the Chinese Government will collapse under its own weight and the people will be free.</p>
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		<title>By: MuLan</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/08/10/china-citizen-reporter-to-be-deported/comment-page-3/#comment-1501196</link>
		<dc:creator>MuLan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keely, 

It&#039;s my fault, I have mistaken French for brits just like they (germany/france/usa/britain/canada/australia) mistaken indians police for Chinese police couple months ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keely, </p>
<p>It&#8217;s my fault, I have mistaken French for brits just like they (germany/france/usa/britain/canada/australia) mistaken indians police for Chinese police couple months ago.</p>
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