Still waiting (updating below) for more details, but Qik.com vlogger Noel Hidalgo is at the scene and giving updates via Twitter. Here's a video he took just a few minutes ago not far from the Olympic bird's nest:
Noel has just finished uploading a second video, in which he reports that Chinese firemen have taken down one protester and one appears to be coming down the other pole; no sign of the third protester who was stationed on the ground as seen in the clip above:
Tweet timeline (Beijing time):
6:38am @noneck:
Shoeed west away from tibetan protesters climbing polls outside of nest
6:42am @noneck:
There is now a tibetan protester climbing a western poll. Moving to att pim for qik
7:14am @noneck:
Wow! The locals are hot and bothered. Heading back to the hotel.
7:28am @noneck:
Now i'm being followed by a little old lady who told the last cab driver to kick me out. On foot looking for other followers.
7:33 @noneck:
Found a cab and now i'm heading for some coffee to chill for a bit.
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Unless you want hundreds of angry Chinese youth posting outrageous outraged comments on Global Voices, let’s be careful with the choice of words here. Are they really “Tibetan protesters” or are they actually foreigners protesting about Tibet.
I suspect it’s the latter, as seen previously at Everest Base Camp as well as at the Great Wall.
I was right; the protesters were foreigners, not Tibetans.
This just in from Reuters:
BEIJING, Aug 6 (Reuters) - Four foreign protesters displaying a “Free Tibet” banner in the Chinese capital were held by police on Wednesday, state media reported, as the Olympic Games torch made its way through the city.
They were “displaying a pro-Tibet independence banner in English,” said the brief report from the Xinhua news agency. It did not describe their nationality.
The three men and one woman gathered near the main Bird’s Nest Stadium, where the Games will open, and two of the men climbed electricity poles to unfurl the banner, said Xinhua.
Police rushed to the scene after 12 minutes and took them away, the report said.
Now here is a possible “Tibetan protest” in Beijing, judging from the press release currently circulating on the Internet (Tibet film screening in Beijing):
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/August2008/06/c9929.html
China must stop persecuting, terrorising and imprisoning Tibetan people for peacefully going about their lives.
Chinese authorities should let UN human rights experts and independent observers into Tibet to investigate the human rights situation. If they have nothing to hide then why not?
http://uncensor.com.au/
Update to second pending comment:
The following article from Scottish media names the 2 Brits and 2 Yanks who were detained this morning at the protest filmed by Noel Hidalgo:
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/display.var.2418440.0.protibet_britons_detained_in_beijing.php
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It’a a busy day for Beijing police; now there are reports of more foreigners creating trouble. This time it was at Tiananmen Square and instead of Tibet the three American Christians chose “forced abortions” as their topic while holding a sign that said “Jesus Christ is King”
Here’s the article from Singapore’s Straits Times:
http://www.straitstimes.com/Latest%2BNews/Asia/STIStory_265166.html
Christian News Wire has a press release with a photo of the three protesters and their bilingual sign. It also includes the Virginia telephone number for the protesters’ “American spokesman”, perhaps in case any Chinese would like to get more information…
http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/34527395.html
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Thank you all for your bravery. You are standing up for the six million Tibetans inside Tibet who are silenced by Chinese guns. World must remember that olympic is nothing more than political show and huge marketing event for corporations. In the meantime Tibetan people are being persecuted in jails and totured. Tibetans are suffering in their own land while Chinese are staging their coming our party.
http://www.alladinlamp-alladinlamp.blogspot.com/
The ignorance of the westerners have played into the hand of the CCP again.The CCP will use this protest(or any other coming protests during this olympic) to whip up more and stronger anti-WEST storms among all the brain-washed and frenzy chinese youth.
Because CCP has sucessfully equate CCP and Chinese people.
Western people must know that CHINESE is made up of many ethnic people,the main groups are Han,Mongols,Manchu,and of course,Tibetans.
The western people probably do not know these ethnic groups hate each other for thousands of years.
The western people do not know in AD 1200-AD 1300,the Mongols nearly wiped out the whole of Han people.
The western people do not know round about AD 1600,the Han population was between 120-200 millions,during Ming dynasty.The invasion by the Manchu had at least killed about 80 to 90 millions Han ethnic.
The Han,nowadays is the mainstream of CHINESE,do not care a bit when a few( 10 ? 20? 200? 2000? when compared to 10 millions,100 millions)Tibetents,Mongols,or Tartars,or any other minor tribes,being butchered,put in jail,or tortured,or whatever.
Because they had suffered too much in the past,hundreds of years ago.
Remember,CHINESE has thousands of years of written history.
And long memory too.
http://alladinlamp-alladinlamp.blogspot.com/
Above web page contain more than 10 articles deal with relationship between Han,Mongols,Manchurians,and Tibetans.Unfortunately most of articles are in Mandarin,as I have not been able to find to translate all of them.
But if you are serious about CHINA,care about CHINA,I believe we all are,do go and read those articles,if you can read Mandarin;if you can’t read Mandarin,get someone to translate for you.I believe those articles on my web page will help you to understand,may be not much,but at least a bit,the coming events unfolding in front of our eyes.
And if you do think they are worth it,please drop some comments.
Why can’t they just abide by the law and go to the “protest spaces” reserved for such purpose? I wonder…
@Tenzin…Namaste
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Aug. 6 (UPI) — Beijing police say they have expelled four western protesters for displaying “Free Tibet” banners near the Olympic venues.
Two Americans and two Brits were expected to leave China by Thursday.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/08/06/Four_Tibet_protesters_ordered_out_of_China/UPI-74741218035354/
Ben:
Quote:
Why can’t they just abide by the law and go to the “protest spaces” reserved for such purpose? I wonder…Unquote.
Are you kidding? Ben?
Those protest spaces are for show only.Don’t ever think that CCP mean what they say.
Nothing but sideshows done by clowns.
People who want to mess with the Olympics will have their agendas die inside China for at least a generation.
I do fault the Chinese government for being overtly sensitive. Ordinary Chinese citizens know what’s going on and will not buy the crap those stunt people try to sell.
Yeah!!! A couple of shiny points for sure. Not to mentions the entertainment value.
Thanks SFT! Your attention grabbing stunt sure make the argument that you guys are idiots much much easier.
If you disagree with that assessment, then tell me anything of substance that you guys have achieved — other than scoring a couple shiny points in the eyes of the media back home. Oh, I forget the making your mom and pop feel proud thing.
I appreciate that people who support the Tibetan separatist cause are mostly well-intentioned, but there is another side to this issue. Why foment ethnic hatred? Han and Tibetan Chinese have done an incredibly difficult job in breaking the theocracy (as separate from destroying the religion) that kept Tibetans in poverty, ignorance and often actual slavery. Yes, there remain contradictions between Han and Tibetan Chinese, but these can be resolved without restoring feudalism in Tibet. As for know-it-all Americans who have given US citizenship to God, pleeeeeaaaase!!!!
That “hanging flag stunt” activity can be most probably a pre-planned event for their hidden motives ?? Yes ??? No???
They could have been trained for the stunt -how did they climb so high just to hang that “free” banner without any safety measures to safe guard themselves from falling ???
How much have they been paid??? They purposely wanted to flout the rules and regulations ???
16 police officer were killed by 2 uygur minorities in northwest Xinjiang province of china on August. This assult took place in Kashgar,two men driving a truck and hitting the soldiers, killing or wounding 10. They jumped out of the truck, stabbing the soldiers with knives, and then used homemade bombs. The police arrested the attackers, whom they described as Uighurs, 28 and 33 years old. i wonder why there are nobody covers this news here. It would attract lots of comments.
“protestors” they say… turns out to be 2 climbers, with only one succeeding, sort of . Aside from this, the smog succeded on preventing their message to be read by passing motorists and bystanders. Btw, this Noel is just pretending to be not in cahoots with them. LOL
What a joke. Student for a free tibet are nothing but monkies that looks for instant celebrity status of fame same as the 3 men claiming to be christians an represent the voice of Chinese? What are they doing ? do they think Chinese are zombies. I am a CHRISTIAN and the moment I saw that I really want to rip his face OFF. If I were there in Tianmen Square, GOD KNOWS I WOULD.
To all chinese. Do not ever ever forget the China smear propaganda machine that western media use to attack china each and every day and I do mean BBC CNN NBC Los Angeles Times etc etc. they are bashing china each and every day. As long as china still raise a communist flag this smear campaign will not stop!
Tibet has been and will always be part of china.
@timur..
because that would undermine the message that JK and others here trying to push.
@Wei
When I found not a single post on major websites is about the attack,and no comments from common people, I had to give up. We are mostly silenced. (Or i dig not deeply enough)
Does anyone know what’s happening to them?
The human rights issues being raised while the world turns its eye on China is just great! Finally! Why the games are there is another story…Thanks - hot topics! It is about religious freedom for the Tibetans and I think that is why the standard has been raised by so many concerned folks around the world.
@editor
They were deported, but treated pretty evenhandedly byt the Chinese authorities.
Their mum and dads are proud.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7544416.stm
@everybody
I wonder how would the American public and police force react if they scaled the Golden Gate or the Brooklyn Bridge with a pro-”bin laden” banner or something as equally provocative?
And the same with Big Ben and the UK.
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/news?slug=ap-paintedprotest&prov=ap&type=lgns
Makes every Christian proud by trashing hotel rooms :P
This marks a new low…
“Jankovic said
You certainly are not a Christian to say such a hateful thing and concluding your diatribe, claiming Tibet for China is classic fiction. You do not make China look good with such a message.
God bless China and everone that embrace her. May the peace of God always reign and cover China and the chinese people everywhere. May the wrath of god be upon countries and nations that try to destroy china from inside out. may the wrath of god be upon irresponsible war hungry and money hungry media tycoons and politicians that try to disrupt the peace of china and the chinese people.
God Bless China !
US Secretary Rice supports Beijing Olympics
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=9165559&ch=9052301&src=news
God knows who is true Christian.
That is a true prayer by him, his true loving expression. He prayed for Peace.
LOL
An American pastor can do real physical damage to 2 hotel rooms and leave without paying, certain J can say what he was tempted to do but not do it and still be a good christian :P
You are such a hypocrite and a fake Christian “jankovic”. Too many people have used their belief in God to justify their hatred and murder of others and yours is no different. It’s just pro-Chinese Communist Party this time.
@so_dame_lame:
thanks!
“16 police officer were killed by 2 uygur minorities in northwest Xinjiang province of china on August. This assult took place in Kashgar,two men driving a truck and hitting the soldiers, killing or wounding 10. They jumped out of the truck, stabbing the soldiers with knives, and then used homemade bombs. The police arrested the attackers, whom they described as Uighurs, 28 and 33 years old. i wonder why there are nobody covers this news here. It would attract lots of comments.”
If this incident happened on U.S. soil, it’s called terrorist attack. Our president Bush would send troops to middeast to battle the terrorist backing countries.
Since this incident happened in China, Bush gave a speech accusing Chinese leaders of human rights, and he did not mention about terrorism.
I just find it odd you know! ;-)
To China haters, let’s put all the hate aside and be a good sport for two weeks shall we?
Congratulations to the 2008 Beijing Olympics.
jankovic also said:
“I am a CHRISTIAN and the moment I saw that I really want to rip his face OFF. If I were there in Tianmen Square, GOD KNOWS I WOULD.”
I do not know if jankovic is a Christian, but in my experience, that is typical religious speech.
Yeah “Knights”, I expect there will be more Americans killed if the Americans try to suppress freedom of speech and religion, not to mention keep certain groups of people in economic bondage and move different people into their lands so as to legitimize their claim to the land.
Oh, wait, that’s China that does that. Oops.
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‘jankovic’ pls stop your lunatic chinese-act . your n0t even a Chinese person.
Why so many westerner are so confident about their knowledge of Tibet, do you really see tibetans are prisoned or tortured ? You Fucking idiots ,You’re simply your western media tools ,you’re fooled around by these media just for fun , but tibet is a serious matter to Chinese , We Chinese all know our own history ,it has nothing related to communist party , it’s 5000 years history of our own.
As far as I can I see the tibetans around me are more superior than Han race , they’re allowed to carry long knives to protect themselves for religious respect, and they use the knives to fight and slash Hans , its just legal for them to take knives , most tibetans are super rich ,cause Hans devote their money to buddha , they just steal the money and spent by themselves .
Dalai are popular in western , cause you’re ignorant ,tibet is part of china and not Dalai’s kingdom , you’re fighting for nothing , pathetic western idiots ,go to learn some history .
How much people know Tibet? How much people know Chinese Tibetans life? I suggest before protestors carry Free Tibet flag, they’d better truly come China’s Tibet to have a look.
Dalai Lama has been travelling and lobbying around the world for half a century. Why he still insists no-independence policy, bcoz he know the history. And tibet has never been a single country existed in the history stage. Today’s dalai is 14th dalai in the history, and this “Dalai” title is entitled by Chinese Central Government since Tang dynasty. Up till now, tibet has been part of China for over 700 years.
Tibetans in China are living a far better life than those exiles. They have the chance to learn textbooks and sciences. And China Central Government waived all the students tuitions till they finish middle school and till educated. China has 56 ethnic nationalities, and tibet is only one of them. In China, ethnic minorities enjoy more social benefits than Han nationality. To say Chinese government mistreated tibetans is so unfair.
I strongly advise westerners, do not only listen, you should take a true visit. And you should also compare Chinese tibetans life with those exile tibetans. Then you’ll find the difference, bcoz no matter life quality, living standard, education level, or behaviors, Chinese tibetans are far better than exile tibetans. Aren’t these also part of human rights improvement?
Thus Westerners, before you carry a Free Tibet flag, shouting at Chinese or government, you should take a serious think about it, bcoz you also harm whole Chinese national affections. And it’s so unfair.
In response to 48 and 49, why are you so afraid of freedom?
@Mike
I don’t smell fear in those posts…I do smell in your post someone who rather tell slogans than really understanding Chinese society at this time.
You are as effective as Bush in this regard.
@john 47,
“‘jankovic’ pls stop your lunatic chinese-act . your n0t even a Chinese person.”
This a good example of “racism” speech. Instead, it is a lunatic thought by yourself.
I do Not see you (people) are of better Human Right and Freedom than others ??
@ R. Elgin # 40,
“You are such a hypocrite and a fake Christian “jankovic”. Too many people have used their belief in God to justify their hatred and murder of others and yours is no different. It’s just pro-Chinese Communist Party this time.”
This is an expression of your hatred, may be hyprocrite??? And, it does not justify that you are of better than others. ‘pro-Chinese Communist” and “communist” is really not a symbol of evil. It is the quality of thought you have that make the difference (Evil or God).
OK, Wei at # 51.
Explain Chinese society, if you can.
But remember, we will not learn anything from rambling,
discursive nonsence.
So, give us your best shot.
By the way, Bush is an idiot.
(I can say that in a free country.)
Mike
I am taught to See and ask myself first “Do you possess idiot-ness before you speak loudly and comment other as idiot.”
Speaking too freely without a mindful thought of yourself and others or without a clear knowledge, is too lunatic or mindlessness ?? Yes ? No ?
It is too little for you to learn Chinese Culture over here. Even much more difficult for a person who think he is the better than others.
Freedom without mindfulness and respect of others is lunatic and very rude.
Is this your kind of civilisation you are trying to promoting? ;-)
In response to chan of 55, if you were taught to see and ask yourself first do you possess idiot-ness before you speak loudly and comment other as idiot, you have failed to learn your lesson.
I suspect that we all have about the same measure of idiot-ness, but Bush reveals his in a more public and more harmful manner. Examples include lying to the public to muster support for an unnecessary war, and commenting that god told him to attack Iraq. Would you agree that dishonest and irrational conduct by a leader of a government to justify war amounts to idiotic, if criminal conduct?
Yes? No? It would not be mindful to have an opinion? I am not free enough to comment?
Mindfulness and lunacy are not polar opposites, and my invitation for you and your friends to explain in a clear manner what it is you are defending seems to be a relatively mindful act. As I suspected, you can not or will not take the time to explain your position. Instead, you switch from disjointed arguments in defense of Chinese Communism to contradictory attempts to insult my modest request for an explanation. Could it be that Chinese culture is a crutch for you as god is a crutch for Bush?
That does not mean I am better than you and your friends. In fact, I admire your attempts to use a language which, clearly is not native to you. I certainly can not even discuss the price of rice in Chinese, and I might be a lunatic to even try. So, good for you.
Mindful or not, I am free to say that my current president is dishonest, irrational, and idiotic. You do not appear to have that freedom. Is that true, or am I a lunatic to say so?
If you accept my invitation to explain yourself, I suggest that you remember that while China’s culture may be very old, Chinese Communism is relatively new.
My invitation for you to clearly explain why Tibet should not be free still stands. If you can justify your position, just do it!
Or, are you not free enough to give us your real opinion?
Respectfully Rude Mike
“Chan”, trolls like yourself and the fake Christian you defend are only pitied then ignored. I have read enough to understand what you will continuously deny and it does not make you stronger either.
I do not need to send human armies, but canine armies to take down those foreign government running dogs pretending to be Tibetans.
Sometimes I feel bad for tibetans. They have been used left, right, and center for other’s advantage.
Ha! Bush still went to the olympics, what a slap on the Tibetans’ face.
I call upon Han and Tibetan Chinese to UNITE against Foreign conspiracy!
@Mike
Why I need to expalin to you ? DO you think I owe you somethimg ? However, just to tell you very briefly. Tibet is already free, their standard of living improved continuosly under China Ruling.Tibetant People are living happily in Peaceful manner.
Tibet belongs to China and is part of China This my point. You people are doing “seperation” for political reasons.
You people are just trying to do “Seperation” and create chaos.
Chinese Communist brought Union of China from Seperation, for example, Hong Kong 1997, Chinese is not more “sick man of asia”. Hong Kong belongs to British ?? A good government always bring dignity to his Nation and People. Chinese no more separation and must be One to be Strong !
Your Grand Grand are very very old too in stone age, but democracy is something new too compared to them ? Democracy and Communist is both equally good civilisation, philiosophy and ideology for human society. This is the True Equality.
I am not interested in Your President is what kind of person (black or white). If you irritiate me, this is my business. Please bear that in your “Mind”.
You people should learn how to care about your own business and creat more Peace to the World.
Tibet is none of your “white father & mother” issues,
Finally, I have already justify that your kind of rude “freedom” civilisation is not completely useful.
If you even can’t talk about a tiny rice in Chinese, please try to don’t talk about China’s Matter in English so loudly.
@ R.Elgin
You would not make me weaker, you make me stronger.
Mr. Chan,
silly man,
knows Tibet,
ain’t free yet.
I would love to see Californian and Hawaiians freed from usa
The Hawaiians live under the white populations’ oppression without representation
Na, Bush is NO idiot, I applause and respect his decision to attend the Olympics. Bravo!
@ Mike
I agree with you that Bush is an Idiot. He killed many American young boys, and Iraqi civilians, you probably do give a shit about both. Then he associated himself with Dalai (former CNN member - which stands for conpiracy NAZI network => just for fun poking at CNN, Actually Dalai did have great friendships with the most INhumane former Nazi leaders)
Then some how, Bush’s head cleared, and he was the first one flying to Beijing to RSVP a seat in the Birds’ nest.
You voted for Bush for two terms, and you call him Idiot, what does that make you?
To: my friend Mulan
An unknown Buddhist said that it is better to be kind than it is to be right. You are neither.
I never voted for Bush.
Have you ever voted for anyone?
Mike
I voted for Hu and Wen, and my choices have been phenomenal. These two gentle men are taking China to a glorious future that the children of China have been longing for a long time.
I know who I will vote for the USA election.