Comments on: Palestine: Anger at Young Boy's Needless Death

By: Global Voices in Italiano » Etnie, identità e conflitti: i commenti a due articoli di GVO sul Medio Oriente

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 11:57:35 +0000

[...] Gerald dà il via alle critiche, ricordando a Jillian York che anche i bambini israeliani, come quelli palestinesi, patiscono le conseguenze del conflitto, e non possono essere considerati responsabili per le politiche del loro governo. Secondo lui, Tutto ciò non avrà mai fine finché la gente non cambierà la concezione da “Israeliani contro Palestinesi” a “brave persone contro assassini”, e la smetterà di vedere il conflitto per “fazioni”. [...]

By: Global Voices на македонски » Палестина: Нема мир за Ахмед Муса ни во животот ни во смртта

Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:36:29 +0000

[...] ожалостени чекаа на погребот на Ахмед Муса, момчето кое го убија израелските војници на почетокот на неделава за време [...]

By: Palestine » Jewish settlers in Palestine grew in 2007 - Daily Times

Palestine » Jewish settlers in Palestine grew in 2007 - Daily Times — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:30:25 +0000

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By: Global Voices Online » Palestine: No Peace for Ahmed Moussa in Life or Death

Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:23:46 +0000

[...] waited by the thousands for the funeral of Ahmed Moussa, the young boy killed early this week by Israeli soldiers during a protest in Nilin. A peaceful funeral for the young boy was not to be, [...]

By: Frank

Frank — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 00:25:33 +0000

This one ‘fair and professional’ reporter from BBC only forgot of informing that “this boy 12-year old was was armed and with explosive devices tied to his body”…
More one journalistic gold from BBC…

By: Tal

Tal — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:22:47 +0000

Dear Samir,

I have not said that CNN is under Zionist spell. I just asked Jillian why does she think the media coverage is pro-Israeli, as she suggested.

I believe that in order to have here some improvement in the situation, we first have to listen to each other. We have to behave to each other as humans, in order to work as a team.

Dear Gerald,
I could not get you point. Can you please be more specific.

Good week to you all

By: Amira Al Hussaini

Amira Al Hussaini — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:47:34 +0000

Dear All,

I have been following this discussion for a while – and would like to shed some light on our coverage.

At GV, we have been trying to cover the ‘human aspect’ of both sides of the confrontation – as much as we can possibly do – reflecting what bloggers and other online citizen journalists are saying.

ALL GV authors are VOLUNTEERS – who take time from their busy daily lives to write the articles which you see appearing here. Accusing Jillian York of being one-sided is a grave misjudgement of the situation as we do provide the other side of the story – on other pages – by other authors: See Maya Norton’s coverage here (http://globalvoicesonline.org/author/maya-norton/) as well as Gilad Lotan’s (http://globalvoicesonline.org/author/gilad-lotan/). Maya and Gilad have both been doing a commendable job covering Israeli blogs in English and Hebrew respectively.

In this particular story, for instance, Jillian’s role focused on covering the Palestinian side of the story. And that is what she did. Thank you Jillian.

The Palestinian and Israeli blogospheres are wide – and span several languages – and it is difficult to find a SUPER volunteer with knowledge of the conflict, the online conversation and where to look for blogs – and the languages in which online citizen journalists reporting in, ie: Arabic, English, Hebrew, Russian and French — and bring all those voices together under one post. If any of you has all those skills – and the time to volunteer your services for free – please contact me and I would be more than willing to work with you.

As far as is humanly possible, we coordinate our coverage, and decide – again depending on the volunteers time and other commitments – who will do what. For instance, Jen Brea will cover French blogs, Jillian York will cover Palestinian English blogs, Maya Norton will cover Israeli English blogs, I will look at Arabic blogs, Gilad Lotan will review Hebrew and Veronica Khokhlova Russian blogs. These voices then appear in consecutive posts on GV – sometimes over several days. In case there is a breaking story – or one with a lot of commentary and posts – we set up Special Coverage pages – as seen here: http://globalvoicesonline.org/specialcoverage/

You as readers are also welcome to help us with our coverage – either by sending us links to blogs (every GV author has an email on her/his homepage) or volunteering to cover specific countries.

Looking forward to your contributions.

Regards,
Amira Al Hussaini
Middle East and North Africa Editor
Global Voices Online

By: Yarden

Yarden — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 13:22:44 +0000

You did leave out the part were the demonstrators threw rocks at the soldiers – from what i heard. Of course It’s still wrong to shoot bullets at demonstrators, it’s just that the situation is usually more complicated then the way it’s represented here. The demonstrations sometimes turn violent (usually the rocks just injure the soldiers, not kill them. But it happens too), and the soldiers feel threatened.

By: gerald zuckier

gerald zuckier — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:32:05 +0000

I’m not accusing anyone; I don’t believe that I can see into everyone’s heart and motives, and my point is that finger pointing and accusations are what keeps this conflict alive. I assume everyone here would be shocked at the actual sight of a wounded kid, or even a wounded adult, regardless of nationality, or even personal history of violence; therefore, I find it inconsistent when people rouse themselves to post on the atrocities suffered by one “side” and not the other; and assume it’s a subtle manipulation by whoever they have been listening too. No malice suggested, just that we’ve really got to rise above instinctive tribal loyalties or simplistic portrayals of collective guilt or innocence and see that the basic alignment here is, is a person willing to use violence as a tool to get what they feel is their rightful due, or are they determined to reject violence even if it costs them personally. Or, in our case at a distance, which of these two paradigms do we as individuals champion. To me, that question is more important than whether people face Mecca or Jerusalem when they pray.

By: Samir

Samir — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:19:45 +0000

Tal,
What is all the ramnbling about CNN for? Why CNN only, why not BBC, ABC, BBD or SCD..and all those CBD’s. Are you saying that CNN is under the zionist spell??? Are you smelling a Zionist conspiracy?? The control of the media… Didn’t they show the point blank foot shooting of a palestinian teen a week ago? Are you that sure that people are going to feel sorry of the little boy or do you want to provide viewers with an instant clip of screwed up mess of politics or how brutal the israeli army is.

Calm down!!! everybody with moral principles deplores death of innocent children. Do not get entangle with the self-righteousness stuff, it is so easy to get a boost out of it, specially when people are TRULLY blind of the effects it has.

By: Jillian York

Jillian York — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:26:50 +0000

Tal,

I’m happy to share my opinion, but I would really prefer to take this conversation off of Global Voices. If you’re interested in doing so, you can e-mail me (jilliancyork at gmail dot com).

Jillian

By: Tal

Tal — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:51:33 +0000

Dear Jillian,

Why do you think CNN cover the bulldozer incident and did not cover the child death?

waht make you care more about the Palestinian cause? Isn’t the cause is to bring peace and prosperity to all, including to Israelis?

By: Jillian York

Jillian York — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:56:03 +0000

Tal,

I should also point out that Maya Norton has provided excellent coverage of the Israeli blogosphere’s thoughts on the matter (http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/07/23/israel-jerusalem-suffers-copycat-terrorist-attack/)

It’s only fair that we present both (or as many as possible) sides of the story.

Jillian

By: Jillian York

Jillian York — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:45:09 +0000

Tal,

I do care more about the Palestinian cause, however, we’re talking about two very different situations. The bulldozer incidents both received significant coverage by the international media; but when an Israeli soldier kills a Palestinian child, where’s CNN?

That’s where my outrage comes from; perception.

Jillian

By: alajnabiya

alajnabiya — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:58:00 +0000

Mr. Zuckier, if your comment was directed at me, I assure you that I am as distressed at the killing of an Israeli child as I am a Palestinian child. I have no sympathy for random bombings of civilian targets. I think they are both immoral and counter productive.