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		<title>By: Kelvin Kamayoyo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelvin Kamayoyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>7th November 2009
Kelvin Kamayoyo, 	 
(Author-economist)

Bashir’s continued tricks to frustrate the ICC  
Bashir should not be allowed to travel to Turkey to attend an Organisation of the Islamic Conference because he has been put on an international arrest warrant on war crimes he has committed and still continue to do so. Furthermore, because the Conference itself shall not yield any tangible results that can send a wind of hope to bettering up our ravage economic world. The world is currently facing multiple problems some of natural character, e.g. earth quakes while many of human made, inter alia, institutional infancy or collapse or ineffective and inefficient, climate change/ global warming, corruption, political instability, terrorism, economic crisis, food shortages compounded by obvious higher prices thereby deepening the Gap of those with access to food and resources, and those without. Therefore, this Conference does not seem to offer any single solution to most of the world’s problems but is most likely to create extra hurdles because some of the eminent statements or keynote speeches by the Islamic leaders that will attend would be aggressive, based on personal and/ or country character assassination from e.g. Iran President, Libyan President and Bashir himself. This Conference is not unique to many of us and such gathering have been convened by Muslims, in past, in order solely to entrench their ideologies among themselves and overall strategize on how to continue entrenching the Islamic religion over the Christian religion across the world and in particular in those areas where they appear to co-exist. 

Islam, Christainty, ICC and Bashir
The ICC has done its job (initiated prosecution process) by demonstrating that Bashir, indeed, has a case to answer before the court and the task now remains to all responsible countries across the world to act in conformity with the international rule of law. By acting in conformity with the international rule of law global countries will be obviously supporting the ICC’s mandate, credibility and its life relevance. All responsible countries across the global must work toward assisting the ICC to implementing its general mandate by facilitating the arrest of Bashir and any other past and future international suspect. Indeed, the world is keen to record a good international Case law at The Hague. 

The Islamic community has often perceived the world as it’s adversely and whenever a noble decision is made at international level or by the United States of America trying to correct a wrong committed by a Muslim the response has always been that it’s because they are marginalized as compared to the Christians. Muslim should begin to co-exist with the Christians and adopt a character of positive society integration with other religions and classes of people. There are well know of isolation and even in our communities they tend to bundle themselves in one house or compound or complex. Why should you restrict yourselves? Even in economics or international trade theories it has since been proved and/ or recommended that an economic system characterized of ‘‘Autarky nature and principles’’ or Closed economic system has no hope of expanding or developing. Hence, many economic scholars have recommended a deeper liberalization (though a lot can be said on this topic) of an Open system which is inherent with freedom exchange of goods and services or indeed ideas in this context and also enhances specialization, in this case could be Muslim utilizing talented skills in business/ entrepreneurship and exploit positively natural resources for the benefit of themselves and Christians at large. 

Muslims should begin to appreciate the fact that Christians love them too, despite religion disparity between the two groups and this can be seen by the overall growth conducive environment provided to Muslims in most Christian dominated countries across the world. However, this scenario is different from Muslim dominated countries were the population growth of Christians has either been constant or eroding. ‘‘It’s high time we faced reality and looked at each other as one of our own and not as my enemy’s child’’. Furthermore, a number of Christian leaders across the world have stood to speak in favour of Bashir, a thing that would appear impossible by a Muslim leader to do if the suspect was a Christian. Examples are there for one to give reference to such as Charles Tailor (Former Liberian President), Bemba (Former Lebel Leader in Congo-DR) very few if not zilch Muslim leaders took interest to support these former leaders. 
 
Bashir has been defiant ever since the International Criminal Court of The Hague issued an arrest warrant against him and many African leaders and astounding enough including the continental organ (AU) has voiced and passed instantaneous adhoc resolutions in support of his repudiation. However, the support by most leaders that have so far voiced has little grounds in it other than just echoing the aspect of &#039;&#039;sovereignty&#039;&#039;. The question that international communities continue to ignore is why the people of Darfur and Southern Sudan are not being given the necessary attention by the AU?  Why should the arrest warrant of Bashir (a single person though with a lot of punitive powers against the Darfur and Southern Sudan persons) cause much alarm to an extent of issuing instantaneous continental positions in the form of recommendations supporting Bashir? Suprising enough while all this was and is still happening a number of people have continued to die in Darfur and Southern Sudan in the wider view of the AU and UN, and indeed most Africans continue to be swamped in chilly poverty.

Conclusion  
Bashir will continue to enjoy his defacto freedom owing to higher poverty levels in most African countries, lack of leaders with the passion to make a landmark change for the continent, Sudan’s country resource endowment and the pace and approach adopted by China in penetrating the African continent. China has a serious role to play if Sudan and many other African countries are to exercise compliance in most international conventions and protocols. The level of flexibility China accords most African countries is a threat to levels of adherence to the international rule of law and if not promptly and adequately examined has the potential to yield global rule of law compliance crisis. Thus, if China &amp; AU today was to extend sanctions against Sudan the scernario would definitely be different and Bashir would have surrendered himself to the ICC. The world is therefore reminded to support the life existence of the ICC and make its work easier, however the ICC should also endeavor to review its mandate so that it can be legally proactive and eliminate suspicions that it somewhat attempt to discriminate persons to be prosecuted. With the global support the ICC can sharpen its Teeth capable of biting Bashir from wherever he maybe!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7th November 2009<br />
Kelvin Kamayoyo,<br />
(Author-economist)</p>
<p>Bashir’s continued tricks to frustrate the ICC<br />
Bashir should not be allowed to travel to Turkey to attend an Organisation of the Islamic Conference because he has been put on an international arrest warrant on war crimes he has committed and still continue to do so. Furthermore, because the Conference itself shall not yield any tangible results that can send a wind of hope to bettering up our ravage economic world. The world is currently facing multiple problems some of natural character, e.g. earth quakes while many of human made, inter alia, institutional infancy or collapse or ineffective and inefficient, climate change/ global warming, corruption, political instability, terrorism, economic crisis, food shortages compounded by obvious higher prices thereby deepening the Gap of those with access to food and resources, and those without. Therefore, this Conference does not seem to offer any single solution to most of the world’s problems but is most likely to create extra hurdles because some of the eminent statements or keynote speeches by the Islamic leaders that will attend would be aggressive, based on personal and/ or country character assassination from e.g. Iran President, Libyan President and Bashir himself. This Conference is not unique to many of us and such gathering have been convened by Muslims, in past, in order solely to entrench their ideologies among themselves and overall strategize on how to continue entrenching the Islamic religion over the Christian religion across the world and in particular in those areas where they appear to co-exist. </p>
<p>Islam, Christainty, ICC and Bashir<br />
The ICC has done its job (initiated prosecution process) by demonstrating that Bashir, indeed, has a case to answer before the court and the task now remains to all responsible countries across the world to act in conformity with the international rule of law. By acting in conformity with the international rule of law global countries will be obviously supporting the ICC’s mandate, credibility and its life relevance. All responsible countries across the global must work toward assisting the ICC to implementing its general mandate by facilitating the arrest of Bashir and any other past and future international suspect. Indeed, the world is keen to record a good international Case law at The Hague. </p>
<p>The Islamic community has often perceived the world as it’s adversely and whenever a noble decision is made at international level or by the United States of America trying to correct a wrong committed by a Muslim the response has always been that it’s because they are marginalized as compared to the Christians. Muslim should begin to co-exist with the Christians and adopt a character of positive society integration with other religions and classes of people. There are well know of isolation and even in our communities they tend to bundle themselves in one house or compound or complex. Why should you restrict yourselves? Even in economics or international trade theories it has since been proved and/ or recommended that an economic system characterized of ‘‘Autarky nature and principles’’ or Closed economic system has no hope of expanding or developing. Hence, many economic scholars have recommended a deeper liberalization (though a lot can be said on this topic) of an Open system which is inherent with freedom exchange of goods and services or indeed ideas in this context and also enhances specialization, in this case could be Muslim utilizing talented skills in business/ entrepreneurship and exploit positively natural resources for the benefit of themselves and Christians at large. </p>
<p>Muslims should begin to appreciate the fact that Christians love them too, despite religion disparity between the two groups and this can be seen by the overall growth conducive environment provided to Muslims in most Christian dominated countries across the world. However, this scenario is different from Muslim dominated countries were the population growth of Christians has either been constant or eroding. ‘‘It’s high time we faced reality and looked at each other as one of our own and not as my enemy’s child’’. Furthermore, a number of Christian leaders across the world have stood to speak in favour of Bashir, a thing that would appear impossible by a Muslim leader to do if the suspect was a Christian. Examples are there for one to give reference to such as Charles Tailor (Former Liberian President), Bemba (Former Lebel Leader in Congo-DR) very few if not zilch Muslim leaders took interest to support these former leaders. </p>
<p>Bashir has been defiant ever since the International Criminal Court of The Hague issued an arrest warrant against him and many African leaders and astounding enough including the continental organ (AU) has voiced and passed instantaneous adhoc resolutions in support of his repudiation. However, the support by most leaders that have so far voiced has little grounds in it other than just echoing the aspect of &#8216;&#8217;sovereignty&#8221;. The question that international communities continue to ignore is why the people of Darfur and Southern Sudan are not being given the necessary attention by the AU?  Why should the arrest warrant of Bashir (a single person though with a lot of punitive powers against the Darfur and Southern Sudan persons) cause much alarm to an extent of issuing instantaneous continental positions in the form of recommendations supporting Bashir? Suprising enough while all this was and is still happening a number of people have continued to die in Darfur and Southern Sudan in the wider view of the AU and UN, and indeed most Africans continue to be swamped in chilly poverty.</p>
<p>Conclusion<br />
Bashir will continue to enjoy his defacto freedom owing to higher poverty levels in most African countries, lack of leaders with the passion to make a landmark change for the continent, Sudan’s country resource endowment and the pace and approach adopted by China in penetrating the African continent. China has a serious role to play if Sudan and many other African countries are to exercise compliance in most international conventions and protocols. The level of flexibility China accords most African countries is a threat to levels of adherence to the international rule of law and if not promptly and adequately examined has the potential to yield global rule of law compliance crisis. Thus, if China &amp; AU today was to extend sanctions against Sudan the scernario would definitely be different and Bashir would have surrendered himself to the ICC. The world is therefore reminded to support the life existence of the ICC and make its work easier, however the ICC should also endeavor to review its mandate so that it can be legally proactive and eliminate suspicions that it somewhat attempt to discriminate persons to be prosecuted. With the global support the ICC can sharpen its Teeth capable of biting Bashir from wherever he maybe!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/07/23/african-bloggers-reactions-to-karadzic-arrest/comment-page-2/#comment-1577292</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kru, Thank you for your insighful and truthful answers to what really is going on in our world with the higher evil powers.  They know what they&#039;re doing and love to stir up the mob mentality, old harted from centuries ago.  That&#039;s how they win and the innocent people loose.   You have a voice to speak the truth and God bless you.  People with a good conscience know who the agressors are the rest want to believe the lies out there about Serbs.  P.S.  Owen wants to believe the lies and stay ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kru, Thank you for your insighful and truthful answers to what really is going on in our world with the higher evil powers.  They know what they&#8217;re doing and love to stir up the mob mentality, old harted from centuries ago.  That&#8217;s how they win and the innocent people loose.   You have a voice to speak the truth and God bless you.  People with a good conscience know who the agressors are the rest want to believe the lies out there about Serbs.  P.S.  Owen wants to believe the lies and stay ignorant.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/07/23/african-bloggers-reactions-to-karadzic-arrest/comment-page-2/#comment-1577144</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily, you&#039;re on another plante.  When you get back, read what Presiding Judge Mumba had to say in the Summary of the Kunarac et al. Trial Judgment, Press release n. 566, available at http://www.un.org/icty/latest-e/index.htm, 

&quot;Rapes were used by members of the Bosnian Serb armed forces as an instrument of terror. An instrument they were given free rein to apply whenever and against whomsoever they wished.&quot; 

The Judge stated that the perpetrators of the crimes had &quot;shown the most glaring disrespect for the women’s dignity and their fundamental human rights on a scale that far surpasses even what one might call the average seriousness of rapes during wartime.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily, you&#8217;re on another plante.  When you get back, read what Presiding Judge Mumba had to say in the Summary of the Kunarac et al. Trial Judgment, Press release n. 566, available at <a href="http://www.un.org/icty/latest-e/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.un.org/icty/latest-e/index.htm</a>, </p>
<p>&#8220;Rapes were used by members of the Bosnian Serb armed forces as an instrument of terror. An instrument they were given free rein to apply whenever and against whomsoever they wished.&#8221; </p>
<p>The Judge stated that the perpetrators of the crimes had &#8220;shown the most glaring disrespect for the women’s dignity and their fundamental human rights on a scale that far surpasses even what one might call the average seriousness of rapes during wartime.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Milka</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/07/23/african-bloggers-reactions-to-karadzic-arrest/comment-page-2/#comment-1577116</link>
		<dc:creator>Milka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 07:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You sound like a bright man without an education.  If you&#039;re Albanian isn&#039;t your country Albania?  Why steal your neighbors land?  Kosovo will NEVER belong to Albanians because it was never there&#039;s to begin with.  You may have it now but don&#039;t get too cocky, G-d hears you and He may just return it to the Serbs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sound like a bright man without an education.  If you&#8217;re Albanian isn&#8217;t your country Albania?  Why steal your neighbors land?  Kosovo will NEVER belong to Albanians because it was never there&#8217;s to begin with.  You may have it now but don&#8217;t get too cocky, G-d hears you and He may just return it to the Serbs.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/07/23/african-bloggers-reactions-to-karadzic-arrest/comment-page-2/#comment-1577115</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 07:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karadzic was defending his country.  All the rape stories are lies by &quot;those&quot; who made false claims so they could propogate their agendas on the world.  They raped us and we raped them, that&#039;s war but there are bigger fish to fry than Karadzic.  He is inocent.  He didn&#039;t start the war.&quot;Those&quot; with evil agendas did.  Clinton, former USA president, was apart of if and he helped &quot;the powers&quot; make Yugoslavia weak and it worked.  Now &quot;they&quot; can control Europe and &quot;their&quot; plans for the European Union to become the strong man is becoming as &quot;they&quot; wish.  We are 
puppets in &quot;their&quot; hands and &quot;they&quot; do as &quot;they&quot; wish.  But G-d (Jeshua) is in control and &quot;they&#039; will bow their knee to Him in due time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karadzic was defending his country.  All the rape stories are lies by &#8220;those&#8221; who made false claims so they could propogate their agendas on the world.  They raped us and we raped them, that&#8217;s war but there are bigger fish to fry than Karadzic.  He is inocent.  He didn&#8217;t start the war.&#8221;Those&#8221; with evil agendas did.  Clinton, former USA president, was apart of if and he helped &#8220;the powers&#8221; make Yugoslavia weak and it worked.  Now &#8220;they&#8221; can control Europe and &#8220;their&#8221; plans for the European Union to become the strong man is becoming as &#8220;they&#8221; wish.  We are<br />
puppets in &#8220;their&#8221; hands and &#8220;they&#8221; do as &#8220;they&#8221; wish.  But G-d (Jeshua) is in control and &#8220;they&#8217; will bow their knee to Him in due time.</p>
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		<title>By: n</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/07/23/african-bloggers-reactions-to-karadzic-arrest/comment-page-2/#comment-1494574</link>
		<dc:creator>n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 03:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>number 1 serbia is weird, bc they get what they want when they want. rafte pika en zemer. personally i can&#039;t stand them AT ALL.  they just like to cause drama for everyone.  once something involves serbia or serbian people or albanians, they go insane. (THIS IS THE MIND THEY HAVE.  i am albanian, and proud to be one.  and i&#039;m soooooooooooooooooooooooo GLAD THAT KOSOVO WON THERE INDEPENDENCE. THIS TIME SERBIA DID NOT GET THERE WAY. NOW PEOPLE SEE HOW THEY ARE WITH EVERYTHING THEY DO. AND THEY WILL NEVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR GET THERE WAY EVERRRRRRRRR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>number 1 serbia is weird, bc they get what they want when they want. rafte pika en zemer. personally i can&#8217;t stand them AT ALL.  they just like to cause drama for everyone.  once something involves serbia or serbian people or albanians, they go insane. (THIS IS THE MIND THEY HAVE.  i am albanian, and proud to be one.  and i&#8217;m soooooooooooooooooooooooo GLAD THAT KOSOVO WON THERE INDEPENDENCE. THIS TIME SERBIA DID NOT GET THERE WAY. NOW PEOPLE SEE HOW THEY ARE WITH EVERYTHING THEY DO. AND THEY WILL NEVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR GET THERE WAY EVERRRRRRRRR.</p>
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		<title>By: Kru</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/07/23/african-bloggers-reactions-to-karadzic-arrest/comment-page-2/#comment-1492978</link>
		<dc:creator>Kru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Owen, don&#039;t you get CNN?  It was on TV.  By noon that day, it was pulled.  They actually had media accounts of a burned out, mortared Serbian village. It was the event that started Bosnia -- as far as actual acts of war.  As for overstating numbers, the media and the PR firms hired by Middle Eastern benefactors -- on-behalf of the Bosnian Muslims -- that took care of that.  I remember accounts of a mass exodus of 300,000 people.  When the non-Serb soldiers were asked what the number of the exodus was -- they stated 3,000.  When Bosnian Muslim women were filmed running toward a refugee camp, the media interpreted/translated what they were saying to each other.  It was much different from the actual translation -- which amounted to, &quot;There was some shooting back there but wasn&#039;t close.  We just ran anyway.&quot;  Followed by the women joking with each other and thankful they had not encountered any fire.  The media translation was much different.  I&#039;ll leave it up to everyone&#039;s imagination about how the murderous, bloodthirsty Serbs just missed capturing them, etc. etc. etc.

One thing I also remember, is the buses that transported women and children (not old enough to carry a weapon) being bused out of many places before the men and older boys were imprisoned and/or shot.  Don&#039;t like it, don&#039;t condone it, but it was a war.  You think the other guys didn&#039;t do it?  Please, give me a break.  Be a realist.

Hey, Izetbegovic shouldn&#039;t have said that he was looking to create a Muslim state in Europe modeled after Iran.  He did it for money and material support, but it was a dumb thing to do.  It made the situation worse.

And yeah, I don&#039;t have the name of the village.  Who are you -- the UN?  You want to know, ask CNN for the file footage.  I&#039;m sure they have &quot;lost it&quot; by now -- wink!

If you are going to point fingers, point it at the rats on all sides; including US, UK, Germany; France, Italy, Russia, Middle East; etc.  Everyone had something to gain -- rich in history, minerals, ports, tourism, geographic importance, etc...

The problem in the Balkans was that old hatreds/mistrust were easily stirred and revived.  Nobody wanted to step back and take a breath and ask what next?  Too easy to kill each other.  Once leaders make that decision -- there&#039;s no going back.  Then, you have to choose sides.  That&#039;s how it is.  Happens in every war.  The outsiders got what they wanted.

People in the Balkans are some of the brightest and nicest people in the world. Just don&#039;t piss them off -- because they go all the way.  That&#039;s why they have survived for so long.  And quit demonizing the Serbs.  

Check what really happened.  The terrorist, drug, and slavery superhighway through the Balkans to the West is now open for business.  Take a closer look, it&#039;s a lot of the same people you are representing.

You might want to find a new cause in life...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Owen, don&#8217;t you get CNN?  It was on TV.  By noon that day, it was pulled.  They actually had media accounts of a burned out, mortared Serbian village. It was the event that started Bosnia &#8212; as far as actual acts of war.  As for overstating numbers, the media and the PR firms hired by Middle Eastern benefactors &#8212; on-behalf of the Bosnian Muslims &#8212; that took care of that.  I remember accounts of a mass exodus of 300,000 people.  When the non-Serb soldiers were asked what the number of the exodus was &#8212; they stated 3,000.  When Bosnian Muslim women were filmed running toward a refugee camp, the media interpreted/translated what they were saying to each other.  It was much different from the actual translation &#8212; which amounted to, &#8220;There was some shooting back there but wasn&#8217;t close.  We just ran anyway.&#8221;  Followed by the women joking with each other and thankful they had not encountered any fire.  The media translation was much different.  I&#8217;ll leave it up to everyone&#8217;s imagination about how the murderous, bloodthirsty Serbs just missed capturing them, etc. etc. etc.</p>
<p>One thing I also remember, is the buses that transported women and children (not old enough to carry a weapon) being bused out of many places before the men and older boys were imprisoned and/or shot.  Don&#8217;t like it, don&#8217;t condone it, but it was a war.  You think the other guys didn&#8217;t do it?  Please, give me a break.  Be a realist.</p>
<p>Hey, Izetbegovic shouldn&#8217;t have said that he was looking to create a Muslim state in Europe modeled after Iran.  He did it for money and material support, but it was a dumb thing to do.  It made the situation worse.</p>
<p>And yeah, I don&#8217;t have the name of the village.  Who are you &#8212; the UN?  You want to know, ask CNN for the file footage.  I&#8217;m sure they have &#8220;lost it&#8221; by now &#8212; wink!</p>
<p>If you are going to point fingers, point it at the rats on all sides; including US, UK, Germany; France, Italy, Russia, Middle East; etc.  Everyone had something to gain &#8212; rich in history, minerals, ports, tourism, geographic importance, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>The problem in the Balkans was that old hatreds/mistrust were easily stirred and revived.  Nobody wanted to step back and take a breath and ask what next?  Too easy to kill each other.  Once leaders make that decision &#8212; there&#8217;s no going back.  Then, you have to choose sides.  That&#8217;s how it is.  Happens in every war.  The outsiders got what they wanted.</p>
<p>People in the Balkans are some of the brightest and nicest people in the world. Just don&#8217;t piss them off &#8212; because they go all the way.  That&#8217;s why they have survived for so long.  And quit demonizing the Serbs.  </p>
<p>Check what really happened.  The terrorist, drug, and slavery superhighway through the Balkans to the West is now open for business.  Take a closer look, it&#8217;s a lot of the same people you are representing.</p>
<p>You might want to find a new cause in life&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/07/23/african-bloggers-reactions-to-karadzic-arrest/comment-page-1/#comment-1492807</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Kru, it&#039;s not OK when Serbs are killed.  Certainly there were many innocent Serbs were killed during the Bosnian war.   What is not OK is the cynical exploitation of the deaths of the Serbs who lost their lives to pretend that this was an equal carnage.  At the end of the day perhaps you might always come back to that telling figure that 85% of civilian victims were Bosniaks.  That figure doesn&#039;t deny the deaths of Serbs, Croats and others.  But it does give you an indication of the pattern of violence.

You don&#039;t specify the name of the village where you want to remind me that 2000 Serbs went missing and the village was mortared and firebombed. I&#039;m not aware of any such incident.  Presumably in this context you&#039;re repeating the discredited fraud of Milivoje Ivanisevic and his account of Serb deaths around Srebrenica.

Ivanisevic inflated the number of Serb deaths around Srebrenica by a factor of ten, and he avoided noting out that most of the dead were Serb soldiers, presumably killed in conflict, the deaths of Serb civilians tended to occur in break-out raids by the starving inhabitants of the besieged enclave and that finally the existence of conflict around the enclave and the plight of its inhabitants was due to the savage campaign of ethnic cleansing of the area carried out by Serb forces in spring 1992.

It&#039;s not OK to overlook the deaths of any of the dead, Serb or otherwise.  But it&#039;s not OK to go shroud-waving, me-tooing and trivialising the suffering of others in order to avoid coming to terms with the shame of what was done in the name of Serbs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Kru, it&#8217;s not OK when Serbs are killed.  Certainly there were many innocent Serbs were killed during the Bosnian war.   What is not OK is the cynical exploitation of the deaths of the Serbs who lost their lives to pretend that this was an equal carnage.  At the end of the day perhaps you might always come back to that telling figure that 85% of civilian victims were Bosniaks.  That figure doesn&#8217;t deny the deaths of Serbs, Croats and others.  But it does give you an indication of the pattern of violence.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t specify the name of the village where you want to remind me that 2000 Serbs went missing and the village was mortared and firebombed. I&#8217;m not aware of any such incident.  Presumably in this context you&#8217;re repeating the discredited fraud of Milivoje Ivanisevic and his account of Serb deaths around Srebrenica.</p>
<p>Ivanisevic inflated the number of Serb deaths around Srebrenica by a factor of ten, and he avoided noting out that most of the dead were Serb soldiers, presumably killed in conflict, the deaths of Serb civilians tended to occur in break-out raids by the starving inhabitants of the besieged enclave and that finally the existence of conflict around the enclave and the plight of its inhabitants was due to the savage campaign of ethnic cleansing of the area carried out by Serb forces in spring 1992.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not OK to overlook the deaths of any of the dead, Serb or otherwise.  But it&#8217;s not OK to go shroud-waving, me-tooing and trivialising the suffering of others in order to avoid coming to terms with the shame of what was done in the name of Serbs.</p>
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		<title>By: Kru</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/07/23/african-bloggers-reactions-to-karadzic-arrest/comment-page-1/#comment-1492721</link>
		<dc:creator>Kru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Owen, you don&#039;t know what you are talking about.
Why is it when 2000 Serbs go missing and the village is mortared and firebombed it goes unnoticed?  That&#039;s where the action started chief.  CNN broke the story initially -- and then promptly pulled it at the behest of the CIA, DoD, DAD, and the White House.  Ms Amanpour was more than happy to then put her spin on it.

Maybe you should check your files about the events leading up to the Bosnian conflict.

So, if someone kills Serbs it&#039;s okay.  But God forbid if an American or Brit dies!?  Please.. get a life.

Let&#039;s face it -- killing of any kind is wrong and sinful.  However, when you have been subjected to Ottoman, Nazi and Ustasi brutality in your past -- you don&#039;t want to let History repeat itself.  

So, when your people go missing or turn up hurt and/or dead -- you act and react.

Hey, the West got what it wanted -- a smaller and more manageable Balkans.  But yet, all of the people in the Balkans are slowly rising like a Phoenix out of the ashes -- stronger and more resilient than before.  That&#039;s the nature of the Balkans and all of the ethnicities there -- regardless of religion.

They are usually some of the brightest minds and bravest warriors -- whether it&#039;s right or wrong.

You left out 2 of the biggest drug/arms dealers and proliferators of genocide -- the US and UK leaders.  Read your history.  They have there little helpers too -- everyone likes money thrown their way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Owen, you don&#8217;t know what you are talking about.<br />
Why is it when 2000 Serbs go missing and the village is mortared and firebombed it goes unnoticed?  That&#8217;s where the action started chief.  CNN broke the story initially &#8212; and then promptly pulled it at the behest of the CIA, DoD, DAD, and the White House.  Ms Amanpour was more than happy to then put her spin on it.</p>
<p>Maybe you should check your files about the events leading up to the Bosnian conflict.</p>
<p>So, if someone kills Serbs it&#8217;s okay.  But God forbid if an American or Brit dies!?  Please.. get a life.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it &#8212; killing of any kind is wrong and sinful.  However, when you have been subjected to Ottoman, Nazi and Ustasi brutality in your past &#8212; you don&#8217;t want to let History repeat itself.  </p>
<p>So, when your people go missing or turn up hurt and/or dead &#8212; you act and react.</p>
<p>Hey, the West got what it wanted &#8212; a smaller and more manageable Balkans.  But yet, all of the people in the Balkans are slowly rising like a Phoenix out of the ashes &#8212; stronger and more resilient than before.  That&#8217;s the nature of the Balkans and all of the ethnicities there &#8212; regardless of religion.</p>
<p>They are usually some of the brightest minds and bravest warriors &#8212; whether it&#8217;s right or wrong.</p>
<p>You left out 2 of the biggest drug/arms dealers and proliferators of genocide &#8212; the US and UK leaders.  Read your history.  They have there little helpers too &#8212; everyone likes money thrown their way.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/07/23/african-bloggers-reactions-to-karadzic-arrest/comment-page-1/#comment-1492076</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karadzic may go on trial, but the legacy of genocide remains in place in Republika Srpska.  That was what all the bloodshed was about, carving a strategic ethnically homogenised artficial entity out of the territory of Bosnia-Herzegovina.

Like all the other big fish like Charles Taylor and Omar al-Bashir, Karadzic had lots of little fish eager to do his dirty work.  Thanks to the Dayton Agreement those little fish hold positions of responsibility in Republika Srpska from which they are able to protect thousands of their fellow rapists and murderers from justice while denying the expulsees their right to return home.

In the interests of its own legitimacy the international legal system has to give Karadzic a fair trial.  Republika Srpska is owed no fair trial, its continued existence has no justification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karadzic may go on trial, but the legacy of genocide remains in place in Republika Srpska.  That was what all the bloodshed was about, carving a strategic ethnically homogenised artficial entity out of the territory of Bosnia-Herzegovina.</p>
<p>Like all the other big fish like Charles Taylor and Omar al-Bashir, Karadzic had lots of little fish eager to do his dirty work.  Thanks to the Dayton Agreement those little fish hold positions of responsibility in Republika Srpska from which they are able to protect thousands of their fellow rapists and murderers from justice while denying the expulsees their right to return home.</p>
<p>In the interests of its own legitimacy the international legal system has to give Karadzic a fair trial.  Republika Srpska is owed no fair trial, its continued existence has no justification.</p>
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		<title>By: BRE</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/07/23/african-bloggers-reactions-to-karadzic-arrest/comment-page-1/#comment-1491594</link>
		<dc:creator>BRE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Elia for the hat tip and welcome back.  You are back from the Congo aren&#039;t you?  It&#039;s late afternoon here in Europe and the big fear is that Radovan Karadzic&#039;s attorney will enter a move that will delay or postpone his extradition to The Hague.  This is going to be a complicated and very drawnout process before this bad guy gets his 1000 days in court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Elia for the hat tip and welcome back.  You are back from the Congo aren&#8217;t you?  It&#8217;s late afternoon here in Europe and the big fear is that Radovan Karadzic&#8217;s attorney will enter a move that will delay or postpone his extradition to The Hague.  This is going to be a complicated and very drawnout process before this bad guy gets his 1000 days in court.</p>
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		<title>By: Bozic, BlackGeorge</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/07/23/african-bloggers-reactions-to-karadzic-arrest/comment-page-1/#comment-1491417</link>
		<dc:creator>Bozic, BlackGeorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Amer,

regarding:
&quot;Serbia has no basis to demand that he be tried in its courts - Karadzic is not a Serbian national and the crimes he’s accused of were committed in Bosnia-Herzegovina, not Serbia.&quot;

All Serbs from all areas of the former Yugoslavia are Serbian nationals. 
He was born in what is now Montenegro.  He is technically a &quot;Montenegrin Serb&quot; if you will..  Serbs for many, many, centuries have been the majority ethnic population in many of these newly created &quot;Country&#039;s&quot;  
And now they have been ethnically cleasned out of these new governments.

The newly &quot;Western&quot; sell-out Serbian government does not want Karadzic or Mladic to be tried in Serbia because they are willing to do anything just to be economic slaves to the European Union.  Just because they think that  &quot;Life will be better&quot; - Whatever...

And yes, to the original poster thank you for clarifying that he is a wanted man allegedly accused of war crimes?
Just like Milosevic he will be thrown in a Kangaroo court that will just go through the motions to make the World believe that they will give a fair trial but it is just a mockery of the justice system.  It will be just a SHOW.  The International Tribunal for Yugoslavia is fraud and has no basis be in existance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Amer,</p>
<p>regarding:<br />
&#8220;Serbia has no basis to demand that he be tried in its courts &#8211; Karadzic is not a Serbian national and the crimes he’s accused of were committed in Bosnia-Herzegovina, not Serbia.&#8221;</p>
<p>All Serbs from all areas of the former Yugoslavia are Serbian nationals.<br />
He was born in what is now Montenegro.  He is technically a &#8220;Montenegrin Serb&#8221; if you will..  Serbs for many, many, centuries have been the majority ethnic population in many of these newly created &#8220;Country&#8217;s&#8221;<br />
And now they have been ethnically cleasned out of these new governments.</p>
<p>The newly &#8220;Western&#8221; sell-out Serbian government does not want Karadzic or Mladic to be tried in Serbia because they are willing to do anything just to be economic slaves to the European Union.  Just because they think that  &#8220;Life will be better&#8221; &#8211; Whatever&#8230;</p>
<p>And yes, to the original poster thank you for clarifying that he is a wanted man allegedly accused of war crimes?<br />
Just like Milosevic he will be thrown in a Kangaroo court that will just go through the motions to make the World believe that they will give a fair trial but it is just a mockery of the justice system.  It will be just a SHOW.  The International Tribunal for Yugoslavia is fraud and has no basis be in existance.</p>
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		<title>By: Veronica Khokhlova</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/07/23/african-bloggers-reactions-to-karadzic-arrest/comment-page-1/#comment-1491305</link>
		<dc:creator>Veronica Khokhlova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve replaced &#039;one of the world’s most wanted war criminals&#039; for &#039;one of the world’s most wanted fugitives&#039; in my piece. Thank you for pointing this out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve replaced &#8216;one of the world’s most wanted war criminals&#8217; for &#8216;one of the world’s most wanted fugitives&#8217; in my piece. Thank you for pointing this out.</p>
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		<title>By: Amer</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/07/23/african-bloggers-reactions-to-karadzic-arrest/comment-page-1/#comment-1491303</link>
		<dc:creator>Amer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Let’s see if Serbia extradites this European war criminal to Den Haag (The Hague) or demand that he be tried in their own national courts.&quot;

Serbia has no basis to demand that he be tried in its courts - Karadzic is not a Serbian national and the crimes he&#039;s accused of were committed in Bosnia-Herzegovina, not Serbia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Let’s see if Serbia extradites this European war criminal to Den Haag (The Hague) or demand that he be tried in their own national courts.&#8221;</p>
<p>Serbia has no basis to demand that he be tried in its courts &#8211; Karadzic is not a Serbian national and the crimes he&#8217;s accused of were committed in Bosnia-Herzegovina, not Serbia.</p>
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		<title>By: Elia Varela Serra</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/07/23/african-bloggers-reactions-to-karadzic-arrest/comment-page-1/#comment-1491287</link>
		<dc:creator>Elia Varela Serra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sinisa, thanks for noticing. I was not trying to sentence him yet, I had just copied the wording of the article I link to in the first sentence, so it was an unintended mistake (I just changed it).

And actually this is a key point, since now the ICTY will have to give a fair trial to Karadzic and show the world its credibility as a tribunal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sinisa, thanks for noticing. I was not trying to sentence him yet, I had just copied the wording of the article I link to in the first sentence, so it was an unintended mistake (I just changed it).</p>
<p>And actually this is a key point, since now the ICTY will have to give a fair trial to Karadzic and show the world its credibility as a tribunal.</p>
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