Comments on: China: Blogger suggests temperance, accused of brown-nosing

By: The disaster that opened the door | Antony Loewenstein

The disaster that opened the door | Antony Loewenstein — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:42:20 +0000

[...] number of bloggers are proving that robust debate is increasingly possible, even for aggrieved parents whose children were killed. Many have been denied the chance to mourn [...]

By: seeinginsea

seeinginsea — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 07:56:34 +0000

What about the “Hurricane Katrina”? the us people have already forgot, he?

What was the reaction of president bush and the us government?

Why so many innocent people were standing in the water while the us soldiers on their tanks and with weapons?

By: 慢十拍

慢十拍 — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:01:24 +0000

“物必先腐而後蟲蛀之”, 這是老生常談的事.
緃觀歷史上的朝代興衰,貪污腐敗均佔了重要的地位,而這次大地震傷亡正好是直指與政府官員有莫大關係.若果不在最短的時間內清理這個毒瘤,讓他們有喘息的空間,進行串連,銷毀證據及推出代罪羔羊,那稍後的重建將會加大了他們緃横的影响力,這與’中國強大’的理念正好背道而馳.
所以, 余秋雨的言論若不是表達了他對歷史政治認知的淺薄,便是他對現今的中國有很大的抗拒.

By: Rob

Rob — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:01:11 +0000

John: “called for calm”? try ADDING TO THE PAIN!
Apologists like you who endlessly point at “foreign enemies” to explain away every inhuman act of the dictatorship, just want to deflect justified anger at the party and its obvious failings. Foreign governments, through trade and investment in China have made its modern development possible. Without them, the Communist Party would only be able to provide the standard of living that existed in the 1960’s to the people today. These are “enemies”?
The real good news is that the party is becoming increasingly desperate and losing what little legitimacy they have left. Don’t mistake love of China for love of the Communist Party. People will be rightfully disgusted by these maneuvers meant only to protect the corrupt and guilty!

By: john

john — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:35:36 +0000

your equating Mr.Yu as a race traitor ? just because he called for calm in a sea of anguish ? we all know that foreign gov’ts and NGOs are doing everythng in their darnest to undermine the cpc . and the good news is, they’re losing. rather than having public opinion go against cpc, instead, public support remains strong and growing.

By: MKT CHINA » Stories of a changing Beijing

MKT CHINA » Stories of a changing Beijing — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:09:24 +0000

[...] Blogger suggests temperance, accused of brown-nosing: Yu Qiuyu blogs that the western media is showing its anti-China stance by reporting on complaints about the earthquake while the rescue effort is ongoing (translated by ESWN). At Global Voices Online, John Kennedy translates some online reactions: I’ve seen shameless, but I’ve never seen this shameless. People kiss butt, but that’s to stay on the boss’ good side. Yu Qiuyu this super butt-kisser extraordinaire, like your average race traitor from back in the day, has squeezed out a few alligator tears and shouted to the people: knock it off, the imperial army still means well for you. [...]

By: Kai

Kai — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:22:30 +0000

@ Ben:

I don’t think “Pity the Chinese people” was necessary whatsoever. If anything, this post clearly demonstrates that many Chinese people are fully capable of thinking for themselves and for those who have suffered and/or died. This is a fantastic example of the plurality of opinion and thought within China and the Chinese people, especially when people (perhaps such as yourself) are often content to dismiss all Chinese as being brainwashed masses. If anything, pity those who still harbor such ignorant and misinformed opinions, and pity those who feel compelled to express them.

By: Ben

Ben — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:54:13 +0000

Pity those who have suffered and/or died. Pity those who cannot think for themselves. Pity the Chinese people.

By: Sonagi

Sonagi — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:51:59 +0000

Loved reading all those scathingly sarcastic retorts to Uncle Tom, er, Uncle Yu.

By: eugene

eugene — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:22:23 +0000

i’m sick of this nonsense, chinese people rise up in revolution! the tens of thousands of innocent children who were taken from their families, all because of corruption and greed,demand retribution party from criminals!

By: John Kennedy

John Kennedy — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:15:32 +0000

@anonymous
I didn’t translate any comments from Yu’s blog, sorry for the confusion.

By: Kai

Kai — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:41:51 +0000

@ anonymous:

The extreme stuff makes for more interesting reading.

@ john:

Yes, there are anti-China forces seeking to undermine the CCP government, and one of Mr. Yu’s arguments was that normal Chinese people holding the CCP government responsible or seeking redress for the failures of the CCP government to protect and serve the normal Chinese people causes problems for the CCP government. Mr. Yu is asking these people to not complain, to not be sad, to not be angry, to not do anything whatsoever because it is against the interests of the leadership. On one hand, this does provide less ammunition to anti-China forces. On the other hand, it is a bit ridiculous. To avoid undermining the CCP government, should the CCP government undermine the Chinese people?

By: john

john — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 10:23:34 +0000

Mr. Yu is right on the spot. there are anti-china forces . And there objectives aren’t just bringing democratic principle, like improve anti-corruption and greater transparency, but also, to undermine the CPC gov’t.

By: anonymous

anonymous — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 01:02:52 +0000

Well,I saw his bog yesterday and read the comments below.There are 84 pages of comments when I read it and not all of them were comments like you listed above.I have to say,if you don’t care, that you listed some most drastic ones. Some people agreed him and some critisize him but in a more mild way. Why didn’t you list one of them as they represent a kind of voice?

By: Kai

Kai — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:10:07 +0000

Good stuff. Hopefully, this will help many foreigners understand that not all Chinese are mindlessly brainwashed to swallow whatever the government feeds them. One can simultaneously criticize their own country, be offended by outsiders criticizing their own country, and love their country. All are understandable responses and not mutually exclusive. These are exciting times and I can only hope that the plurality of opinion and the relative freedom to express and discuss these opinions will continue on.