<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: China: Ethnically diverse forum shut down</title>
	<atom:link href="http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/05/20/china-ethnically-diverse-forum-shut-down/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/05/20/china-ethnically-diverse-forum-shut-down/</link>
	<description>The world is talking. Are you listening?</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:18:24 -0500</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Uighur protests prompt predictably ineffective response from communist authorities &#124; Democracy Digest</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/05/20/china-ethnically-diverse-forum-shut-down/comment-page-2/#comment-1572259</link>
		<dc:creator>Uighur protests prompt predictably ineffective response from communist authorities &#124; Democracy Digest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">549336634#comment-1572259</guid>
		<description>[...] reports that Tohti’s blog, Uighur Online, was cited in a July 5 speech by the governor of the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region (XUAR) for [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] reports that Tohti’s blog, Uighur Online, was cited in a July 5 speech by the governor of the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region (XUAR) for [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; The Uyghurs: Persecuted Muslim Minority in NorthWest China</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/05/20/china-ethnically-diverse-forum-shut-down/comment-page-2/#comment-1571699</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; The Uyghurs: Persecuted Muslim Minority in NorthWest China</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">549336634#comment-1571699</guid>
		<description>[...] Voices articles we&#039;ve followed up on their situation including on how their online forums were closed by the Chinese government back in 2008, and also how the Chinese government pressures other countries to refuse asylum to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Voices articles we&#39;ve followed up on their situation including on how their online forums were closed by the Chinese government back in 2008, and also how the Chinese government pressures other countries to refuse asylum to [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: The New Dominion &#187; Uyghurs Speak Out on Hotel Restrictions</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/05/20/china-ethnically-diverse-forum-shut-down/comment-page-2/#comment-1528119</link>
		<dc:creator>The New Dominion &#187; Uyghurs Speak Out on Hotel Restrictions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 05:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">549336634#comment-1528119</guid>
		<description>[...] they have put forward, but also for the courage to publish them on a website based in the PRC when similar sites have been closed before.   [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] they have put forward, but also for the courage to publish them on a website based in the PRC when similar sites have been closed before.   [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/05/20/china-ethnically-diverse-forum-shut-down/comment-page-2/#comment-1465600</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 11:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">549336634#comment-1465600</guid>
		<description>so what if China is a dictatorship ... the important thing is this, it has prevented some Uygurs becoming chauvanist  and later, to extremeist, i.e. a venue for seperatist to take hold . Besides, Uygurs can register in other forums, where they can also write/communicate in Arabic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what if China is a dictatorship &#8230; the important thing is this, it has prevented some Uygurs becoming chauvanist  and later, to extremeist, i.e. a venue for seperatist to take hold . Besides, Uygurs can register in other forums, where they can also write/communicate in Arabic.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Zictor</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/05/20/china-ethnically-diverse-forum-shut-down/comment-page-1/#comment-1460772</link>
		<dc:creator>Zictor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 13:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">549336634#comment-1460772</guid>
		<description>Eric,

Your logic is faulty. No government has an anti-tourism policy. Some governments have isolationist policies, but that&#039;s another thing.

But many countries have censorship, especially dictatorships (such as, let&#039;s say, China). They try to control the flow of information and ideas, and I even think most Chinese people support that.

So, yes, even the temporary closure could be a wake up call on the webmasters to censor more or face permanent closure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>Your logic is faulty. No government has an anti-tourism policy. Some governments have isolationist policies, but that&#8217;s another thing.</p>
<p>But many countries have censorship, especially dictatorships (such as, let&#8217;s say, China). They try to control the flow of information and ideas, and I even think most Chinese people support that.</p>
<p>So, yes, even the temporary closure could be a wake up call on the webmasters to censor more or face permanent closure.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Rook</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/05/20/china-ethnically-diverse-forum-shut-down/comment-page-1/#comment-1460457</link>
		<dc:creator>Rook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 23:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">549336634#comment-1460457</guid>
		<description>HC: The reason they get publicity afterward is that beforehand it may have been an amazing website, but the shut down is what causes one of the biggest effects. The shutting down of this website is a big deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HC: The reason they get publicity afterward is that beforehand it may have been an amazing website, but the shut down is what causes one of the biggest effects. The shutting down of this website is a big deal.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: HC</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/05/20/china-ethnically-diverse-forum-shut-down/comment-page-1/#comment-1459597</link>
		<dc:creator>HC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 18:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">549336634#comment-1459597</guid>
		<description>I don&#039;t know this website before and I&#039;m sure most of people around are just ignorant like me. Websites got mentioned massively by media and bloggers AFTER shutdown. Why didn&#039;t they promote these websites BEFORE? Do they really care about what people say on the website or rather than the shuttingdown itself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know this website before and I&#8217;m sure most of people around are just ignorant like me. Websites got mentioned massively by media and bloggers AFTER shutdown. Why didn&#8217;t they promote these websites BEFORE? Do they really care about what people say on the website or rather than the shuttingdown itself?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Knights</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/05/20/china-ethnically-diverse-forum-shut-down/comment-page-1/#comment-1458752</link>
		<dc:creator>Knights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 13:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">549336634#comment-1458752</guid>
		<description>People like JK et al love stirring controversy.  Well that&#039;s what get the debate going right?  

People in China are NOT blind nor deaf, they always find ways to go around websites that are NOT available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People like JK et al love stirring controversy.  Well that&#8217;s what get the debate going right?  </p>
<p>People in China are NOT blind nor deaf, they always find ways to go around websites that are NOT available.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Nasamat</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/05/20/china-ethnically-diverse-forum-shut-down/comment-page-1/#comment-1458633</link>
		<dc:creator>Nasamat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 10:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">549336634#comment-1458633</guid>
		<description>Not long ago we saw daily TV pictures of mountain-like fires raging across Greece’s finest forests, threatening the lives of many (non-Muslim) people. Before that we saw here in Morocco fellow (Muslim) Moroccans bewailing the death of their loved ones who died in the Earthquakein the Al Hoceima region in the north of the country. Disaster does not strike the people of just one faith. It’s the same pains, the same feelings, but attitudes sometimes vary. I had once heard on the radio the story of a girl from Rwanda who had lost all her family in the genocide. I sympathized with her (through my ears), but that wasn’t as much as I felt when I saw with my own eyes on Moroccan TV a Moroccan man lying in hospital bed and thanking God, he who had lost 16 members of his family in the Al Hoceima earthquake. What would I then say of my own hardships compared to the lot of such a poor man? How could I dare to say that what happened to that man was because of his sins? Would I have the same amount of patience were I to undergo a similar hardship? I experienced the death of (only) my grand-mother nine years ago and then the death of (only) my father a little more than three months ago and felt how painful it was; what about losing all one’s family at once, overnight?

Moralization is best when it comes out like a gentle breeze from within one’s soul, rather than when inflicted by a safe-and-sound preacher.

Read more at

http://kalamoha.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not long ago we saw daily TV pictures of mountain-like fires raging across Greece’s finest forests, threatening the lives of many (non-Muslim) people. Before that we saw here in Morocco fellow (Muslim) Moroccans bewailing the death of their loved ones who died in the Earthquakein the Al Hoceima region in the north of the country. Disaster does not strike the people of just one faith. It’s the same pains, the same feelings, but attitudes sometimes vary. I had once heard on the radio the story of a girl from Rwanda who had lost all her family in the genocide. I sympathized with her (through my ears), but that wasn’t as much as I felt when I saw with my own eyes on Moroccan TV a Moroccan man lying in hospital bed and thanking God, he who had lost 16 members of his family in the Al Hoceima earthquake. What would I then say of my own hardships compared to the lot of such a poor man? How could I dare to say that what happened to that man was because of his sins? Would I have the same amount of patience were I to undergo a similar hardship? I experienced the death of (only) my grand-mother nine years ago and then the death of (only) my father a little more than three months ago and felt how painful it was; what about losing all one’s family at once, overnight?</p>
<p>Moralization is best when it comes out like a gentle breeze from within one’s soul, rather than when inflicted by a safe-and-sound preacher.</p>
<p>Read more at</p>
<p><a href="http://kalamoha.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://kalamoha.blogspot.com/</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Eric hu</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/05/20/china-ethnically-diverse-forum-shut-down/comment-page-1/#comment-1458607</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric hu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 09:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">549336634#comment-1458607</guid>
		<description>The topic like this is truely pointless... how can you conclude by the temporalily closure of a website, thousands of people just suddenly shut up? man, we are living in 21st century. People in china are communicating with each other by qq, msn, mobile phone, skype,bloger besides tradisonal way of talking. Forum is only one of them and this website is one of countless in china. And some people claimed as you quote: 

&quot;Uighur Online&#039;s closure stands to be a major watershed; the shutting down of channels that stood for communication and discussion just means that all the more people now will choose to cut themselves off, refuse to communicate, or even choose underground activities. People inland have lost the window which led straight to understanding what Uyghur people are thinking, and now will have no choice but to turn to research papers from those academics in the ivory towers to better understand the public sentiment there.&quot;

This is nothing but freak.

Following this kind of logic, I&#039;d like to recommend another piece of news several days ago which was report by 凤凰网（http://news.ifeng.com/）. It was reported the closure a populare publication named 旅游新报 (tourist guide). Is this may become a sign of ongoing chinese anti-tourism policy which chinese government soon would apply or another great evidence that people in chinese have no freedom of press to some people?

The answer is simply not. The newspaper was closed because they reported the chinese earthquake by some bikini girls. I&#039;m not quite sure whether people from different culture may be glad to see hot girls right next to a dying child lie in the ruin of his former home. This was complained by their readers as well as mostly of chinese people. 
They support this kind of closure too.
http://news.ifeng.com/society/2/200805/0521_344_552598.shtml

Hopefully we will see the misunderstanding from this piece of news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The topic like this is truely pointless&#8230; how can you conclude by the temporalily closure of a website, thousands of people just suddenly shut up? man, we are living in 21st century. People in china are communicating with each other by qq, msn, mobile phone, skype,bloger besides tradisonal way of talking. Forum is only one of them and this website is one of countless in china. And some people claimed as you quote: </p>
<p>&#8220;Uighur Online&#8217;s closure stands to be a major watershed; the shutting down of channels that stood for communication and discussion just means that all the more people now will choose to cut themselves off, refuse to communicate, or even choose underground activities. People inland have lost the window which led straight to understanding what Uyghur people are thinking, and now will have no choice but to turn to research papers from those academics in the ivory towers to better understand the public sentiment there.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is nothing but freak.</p>
<p>Following this kind of logic, I&#8217;d like to recommend another piece of news several days ago which was report by 凤凰网（http://news.ifeng.com/）. It was reported the closure a populare publication named 旅游新报 (tourist guide). Is this may become a sign of ongoing chinese anti-tourism policy which chinese government soon would apply or another great evidence that people in chinese have no freedom of press to some people?</p>
<p>The answer is simply not. The newspaper was closed because they reported the chinese earthquake by some bikini girls. I&#8217;m not quite sure whether people from different culture may be glad to see hot girls right next to a dying child lie in the ruin of his former home. This was complained by their readers as well as mostly of chinese people.<br />
They support this kind of closure too.<br />
<a href="http://news.ifeng.com/society/2/200805/0521_344_552598.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://news.ifeng.com/society/2/200805/0521_344_552598.shtml</a></p>
<p>Hopefully we will see the misunderstanding from this piece of news.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: John Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/05/20/china-ethnically-diverse-forum-shut-down/comment-page-1/#comment-1457904</link>
		<dc:creator>John Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 11:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">549336634#comment-1457904</guid>
		<description>Good question, Sonagi. Can anybody confirm this? From what I read in preparation for this post, it definitely &lt;a href=&quot;http://hi.baidu.com/13639966396/blog/item/1c14e995512f224fd1135efc.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;appears&lt;/a&gt; to have supported other languages.

Here&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.ifeng.com/article/1378437.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;more&lt;/a&gt; on the founder and CEO of the website, who sounds like a really amazing guy. I just got a response today from the contact e-mail address provided on the site, the person who responded sounds optimistic that the site will be able to resume operation shortly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question, Sonagi. Can anybody confirm this? From what I read in preparation for this post, it definitely <a href="http://hi.baidu.com/13639966396/blog/item/1c14e995512f224fd1135efc.html" rel="nofollow">appears</a> to have supported other languages.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s <a href="http://blog.ifeng.com/article/1378437.html" rel="nofollow">more</a> on the founder and CEO of the website, who sounds like a really amazing guy. I just got a response today from the contact e-mail address provided on the site, the person who responded sounds optimistic that the site will be able to resume operation shortly.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/05/20/china-ethnically-diverse-forum-shut-down/comment-page-1/#comment-1457880</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 10:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">549336634#comment-1457880</guid>
		<description>It is an interesting story, BTW.  Were comments posted in Chinese only or other languages, too, like Uighur or Kazahk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is an interesting story, BTW.  Were comments posted in Chinese only or other languages, too, like Uighur or Kazahk?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Therese</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/05/20/china-ethnically-diverse-forum-shut-down/comment-page-1/#comment-1457725</link>
		<dc:creator>Therese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 02:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">549336634#comment-1457725</guid>
		<description>Sonagi: Funny, I didn&#039;t read it that way at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonagi: Funny, I didn&#8217;t read it that way at all.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Sonagi</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/05/20/china-ethnically-diverse-forum-shut-down/comment-page-1/#comment-1457659</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 00:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">549336634#comment-1457659</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;On May 15, Uighur Online, the main online forum serving to bridge the huge communication gap between China&#039;s Muslim population, other minority ethnic groups, and Han Chinese, was shut down. &quot;&lt;/i&gt;

This sentence implies that Uighurs are the only Muslim minority ethnic group, which, of course, is not true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;On May 15, Uighur Online, the main online forum serving to bridge the huge communication gap between China&#8217;s Muslim population, other minority ethnic groups, and Han Chinese, was shut down. &#8220;</i></p>
<p>This sentence implies that Uighurs are the only Muslim minority ethnic group, which, of course, is not true.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
