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The following reflects another attempt on my part to have posted the below views to the propagandistic likes of the Srebrenica Genocide Blog.
Philip Thompson’s comments are unsubstantiated and broad babble.
Marko Attila Hoare’s faith in kangaroo court antics reveal a flawed advocacy. Years ago, the UN had a resolution linking Zionism to racism. It was an “international” document. Does Hoare agree with that one? The point being that the “international” tag isn’t the end all for determining accuracy and virtue to a given set of issues. All of us haven’t always agreed to what a given international body has determined. A number of legal scholars and astute academics have credibly revealed the faulty manner of the ICTY. Hoare’s ongoing denial of Bosnian Muslim nationalist wrongdoing is in line with his ongoing display of deceit.
I’m considerably more objective than Hoare. This includes what I’ve said at this thread. On the other hand, he distorts what others besides myself have said.
Among the issues, is a fully confirmed review, revealing the Bosnian Civil War deaths at Srebrenica in terms of the ethnic breakdown of those killed and how they were killed (whether by summary execution, collateral damage, or as armed combatants). In that area, the stated Serb deaths have ranged in the hundreds to over 3,000. The former can be considered more believable than the latter. The stated 8,000 Muslims killed in Srebrenica during the war hasn’t clearly confirmed a breakdown on how they were killed (once again: whether by summary execution, collateral damage, or as armed combatants).
Along with some others, I wasn’t the one with the “poor grasp” of total Bosnian Civil War casualties. Hoare talks about “lies.” How about the “lies” regarding the overly bloated figures of 200,000 or more killed during the entire Bosnian Civil War and rape claims in the tens of thousands? His underhanded acknowledgement of this (at his blog) second guesses the now generally accepted 100,000 Bosnian Civil War casualty figure because of what he calls undocumented war related starvation and disease fatalities caused by the war. Hoare shows no conclusive evidence to support that suggestion. Instead, he brings up other conflicts where such war related deaths have been evident. It’s not evident relative to Bosnia. The civil war related to Biafra clearly included massive death by starvation. Likewise, wars fought in tropical jungle like conditions have led to mass deaths caused by diseases. All this isn’t evident vis-à-vis the Bosnian Civil War.
My comments about Alija Izetbegovic are more accurate than Hoare’s comments about Draza Miahailovic (reference Izetbegovic’s past in the below link to this note).
Hoare’s portrayal of the USSR in the time shortly before 1941 is in line with his skewed way of distorting the past and present.
The West’s selling out of Czechoslovakia to Hitler, Poland and Hungary in 1938 made it easier for the Nazis to attack the USSR.
In point of fact, the USSR offered the West a joint alliance against the dismemberment of Czechoslovakia. This offer was rejected. The West was no doubt hoping that the Nazis would just stay East. Recall Truman’s wish to see both regimes bleeding each other to a pulp.
All this is said with the understanding and revulsion that Stalin’s regime was brutish. It nevertheless had a reasonable basis for making its own deal with the Nazis. One that was encouraged by how the West chose to address the Czechoslovak matter in 1938.
Considering her fascist display in this discussion, Maja/Mayya is being quite bizarre in wrongly accusing me of such manner.
She was the one who brought up Russia. I appropriately replied to her comments.
Serbianna is far more objective than the Srebrenica Genocide Blog (SGB) and Greater Surbiton (GS). The latter two only post views in line with their overly one sided and often times faulty perspectives. Serbianna posts and links articles with views different from Serbianna’s contributors. Unlike the SGB and GS, I acknowledge Serb wrongdoing in a way that they don’t acknowledge Bosnian Muslim nationalist wrongs.
Maja/Mayya is quite a flake. On the one hand, she earlier acknowledged Bosnian Muslim nationalist propaganda efforts. On the other hand, she’s mute about going after such efforts as displayed at this thread.
Abdic is by no means perfect. The same holds true of Izetbegovic, whose 1970 Islamic Declaration and WW II ties I don’t appear to have distorted:
http://antiwar.com/malic/?articleid=1382
Fact based opinions citing factual instances. One can find plenty of other instances in well founded support of the above link.
In comparison to Abdic, what major Bosnian Serb leaders backed Izetbegovic during the Bosnian Civil War?
Overall, many Bosnian Croats opposed the Izetbegovic side during the war. This included instances of opposing him in conjunction with Abdic and-or the Serbs. This Bosnian Croat stance only changed after influential forces in the West gave them a carrot to do so. This quite likely included a green light for Operation Storm. In addition, the Croats are said to have skimmed Iranian arms deliveries to Izetbegovic’s side upon delivery into Croatia.
The following reflects yet another attempt on my part to have posted the below views to the propagandistic likes of the Srebrenica Genocide Blog.
Philip Thompson’s comments are unsubstantiated and broad babble.
Marko Attila Hoare’s faith in kangaroo court antics reveal a flawed advocacy. Years ago, the UN had a resolution linking Zionism to racism. It was an “international” document. Does Hoare agree with that one? The point being that the “international” tag isn’t the end all for determining accuracy and virtue to a given set of issues. All of us haven’t always agreed to what a given international body has determined. A number of legal scholars and astute academics have credibly revealed the faulty manner of the ICTY. Hoare’s ongoing denial of Bosnian Muslim nationalist wrongdoing is in line with his ongoing display of deceit.
I’m considerably more objective than Hoare. This includes what I’ve said at this thread. On the other hand, he distorts what others besides myself have said.
Among the issues, is a fully confirmed review, revealing the Bosnian Civil War deaths at Srebrenica in terms of the ethnic breakdown of those killed and how they were killed (whether by summary execution, collateral damage, or as armed combatants). In that area, the stated Serb deaths have ranged in the hundreds to over 3,000. The former can be considered more believable than the latter. The stated 8,000 Muslims killed in Srebrenica during the war hasn’t clearly confirmed a breakdown on how they were killed (once again: whether by summary execution, collateral damage, or as armed combatants).
Along with some others, I wasn’t the one with the “poor grasp” of total Bosnian Civil War casualties. Hoare talks about “lies.” How about the “lies” regarding the overly bloated figures of 200,000 or more killed during the entire Bosnian Civil War and rape claims in the tens of thousands? His underhanded acknowledgement of this (at his blog) second guesses the now generally accepted 100,000 Bosnian Civil War casualty figure because of what he calls undocumented war related starvation and disease fatalities caused by the war. Hoare shows no conclusive evidence to support that suggestion. Instead, he brings up other conflicts where such war related deaths have been evident. It’s not evident relative to Bosnia. The civil war related to Biafra clearly included massive death by starvation. Likewise, wars fought in tropical jungle like conditions have led to mass deaths caused by diseases. All this isn’t evident vis-à-vis the Bosnian Civil War.
My comments about Alija Izetbegovic are more accurate than Hoare’s comments about Draza Miahailovic (reference Izetbegovic’s past in the below link to this note).
Hoare’s portrayal of the USSR in the time shortly before 1941 is in line with his skewed way of distorting the past and present.
The West’s selling out of Czechoslovakia to Hitler, Poland and Hungary in 1938 made it easier for the Nazis to attack the USSR.
In point of fact, the USSR offered the West a joint alliance against the dismemberment of Czechoslovakia. This offer was rejected. The West was no doubt hoping that the Nazis would just stay East. Recall Truman’s wish to see both regimes bleeding each other to a pulp.
All this is said with the understanding and revulsion that Stalin’s regime was brutish. It nevertheless had a reasonable basis for making its own deal with the Nazis. One that was encouraged by how the West chose to address the Czechoslovak matter in 1938.
Considering her fascist display in this discussion, Maja/Mayya is being quite bizarre in wrongly accusing me of such manner.
She was the one who brought up Russia. I appropriately replied to her comments.
Serbianna is far more objective than the Srebrenica Genocide Blog (SGB) and Greater Surbiton (GS). The latter two only post views in line with their overly one sided and often times faulty perspectives. Serbianna posts and links articles with views different from Serbianna’s contributors. Unlike the SGB and GS, I acknowledge Serb wrongdoing in a way that they don’t acknowledge Bosnian Muslim nationalist wrongs.
Maja/Mayya is quite a flake. On the one hand, she earlier acknowledged Bosnian Muslim nationalist propaganda efforts. On the other hand, she’s mute about going after such efforts as displayed at this thread.
Abdic is by no means perfect. The same holds true of Izetbegovic, whose 1970 Islamic Declaration and WW II ties I don’t appear to have distorted:
http://antiwar.com/malic/?articleid=1382
Fact based opinions citing factual instances. One can find plenty of other instances in well founded support of the above link.
In comparison to Abdic, what major Bosnian Serb leaders backed Izetbegovic during the Bosnian Civil War?
Overall, many Bosnian Croats opposed the Izetbegovic side during the war. This included instances of opposing him in conjunction with Abdic and-or the Serbs. This Bosnian Croat stance only changed after influential forces in the West gave them a carrot to do so. This quite likely included a green light for Operation Storm. In addition, the Croats are said to have skimmed Iranian arms deliveries to Izetbegovic’s side upon delivery into Croatia.
Maya said, quote: “Also, about genocide in Bosnia: it wasn’t done in Srebrenica only, it was done in all Serb-occupied parts of Bosnia, sanctioned and organised by the Bosnian Serb leadership.”
You are correct. Less than a year ago, European Court of Human Rights upheld 1997 Bosnian Genocide case judgment. If you recall, on 26 September 1997 Germany handed down first Bosnian Genocide conviction. Nikola Jorgic was found guilty by the Düsseldorf, Germany, Oberlandesgericht (Higher Regional Court) on 11 counts of genocide. His appeal was rejected by the German Bundesgerichtshof (Federal Supreme Court) on 30 April 1999. He was sentenced to four terms of life imprisonment for his involvement in the Bosnian Genocide.
http://srebrenica-genocide.blogspot.com/2007/07/bosnian-genocide-judgment-upheld.html
In his ongoing political diatribes, note that Marko Hoare (at his blog) doesn’t seem to use the term “genocide denier” to describe the stance taken by Turkish officials vis-à-vis what happened to the Armenians. Instead, he has had a penchant for sugar coating Turkey, in comparison to his comments about Russia and Serbia.
Philip Thompson’s comments are unsubstantiated and broad babble.
Marko Attila Hoare’s faith in kangaroo court antics reveal a flawed advocacy. Years ago, the UN had a resolution linking Zionism to racism. It was an “international” document. Does Hoare agree with that one? The point being that the “international” tag isn’t the end all for determining accuracy and virtue to a given set of issues. All of us haven’t always agreed to what a given international body has determined. A number of legal scholars and astute academics have credibly revealed the faulty manner of the ICTY. Hoare’s ongoing denial of Bosnian Muslim nationalist wrongdoing is in line with his ongoing display of deceit.
I’m considerably more objective than Hoare. This includes what I’ve said at the above referenced thread. On the other hand, he distorts what others besides myself have said.
Among the issues, is a fully confirmed review, revealing the Bosnian Civil War deaths at Srebrenica in terms of the ethnic breakdown of those killed and how they were killed (whether by summary execution, collateral damage, or as armed combatants). In that area, the stated Serb deaths have ranged in the hundreds to over 3,000. The former can be considered more believable than the latter. The stated 8,000 Muslims killed in Srebrenica during the war hasn’t clearly confirmed a breakdown on how they were killed (once again: whether by summary execution, collateral damage, or as armed combatants).
Along with some others, I wasn’t the one with the “poor grasp” of total Bosnian Civil War casualties. Hoare talks about “lies.” How about the “lies” regarding the overly bloated figures of 200,000 or more killed during the entire Bosnian Civil War and rape claims in the tens of thousands? His underhanded acknowledgement of this (at his blog) second guesses the now generally accepted 100,000 Bosnian Civil War casualty figure because of what he calls undocumented war related starvation and disease fatalities caused by the war. Hoare shows no conclusive evidence to support that suggestion. Instead, he brings up other conflicts where such war related deaths have been evident. It’s not evident relative to Bosnia. The civil war related to Biafra clearly included massive death by starvation. Likewise, wars fought in tropical jungle like conditions have led to mass deaths caused by diseases. All this isn’t evident vis-à-vis the Bosnian Civil War.
My comments about Alija Izetbegovic are more accurate than Hoare’s comments about Draza Miahailovic (reference Izetbegovic’s past in the below link to this note).
Hoare’s portrayal of the USSR in the time shortly before 1941 is in line with his skewed way of distorting the past and present.
The West’s selling out of Czechoslovakia to Hitler, Poland and Hungary in 1938 made it easier for the Nazis to attack the USSR.
In point of fact, the USSR offered the West a joint alliance against the dismemberment of Czechoslovakia. This offer was rejected. The West was no doubt hoping that the Nazis would just stay East. Recall Truman’s wish to see both regimes bleeding each other to a pulp.
All this is said with the understanding and revulsion that Stalin’s regime was brutish. It nevertheless had a reasonable basis for making its own deal with the Nazis. One that was encouraged by how the West chose to address the Czechoslovak matter in 1938.
Considering her fascist display in this discussion, Maja/Mayya is being quite bizarre in wrongly accusing me of such manner.
She was the one who brought up Russia. I appropriately replied to her comments.
Serbianna is far more objective than the Srebrenica Genocide Blog (SGB) and Greater Surbiton (GS). The latter two only post views in line with their overly one sided and often times faulty perspectives. Serbianna posts and links articles with views different from Serbianna’s contributors. Unlike the SGB and GS, I acknowledge Serb wrongdoing in a way that they don’t acknowledge Bosnian Muslim nationalist wrongs.
Maja/Mayya is quite a flake. On the one hand, she earlier acknowledged Bosnian Muslim nationalist propaganda efforts. On the other hand, she’s mute about going after such efforts as displayed at this thread.
Abdic is by no means perfect. The same holds true of Izetbegovic, whose 1970 Islamic Declaration and WW II ties I don’t appear to have distorted:
http://antiwar.com/malic/?articleid=1382
Fact based opinions citing factual instances. One can find plenty of other instances in well founded support of the above link.
Bosnia’s Croats opposed the Izetbegovic side during the Bosnian Civil War. This included instances of opposing him in conjunction with Abdic and-or the Serbs. This Bosnian Croat stance significantly changed after influential forces in the West gave them a carrot to do so. This quite likely included a green light for Operation Storm. In addition, the Croats are said to have skimmed Iranian arms deliveries to Izetbegovic’s side upon delivery into Croatia.
In his ongoing political diatribes, note that Marko Hoare (at his blog) doesn’t seem to use the term “genocide denier” to describe the stance taken by Turkish officials vis-à-vis what happened to the Armenians. Instead, he has had a penchant for sugar coating Turkey, in comparison to his comments about Russia and Serbia.
Philip Thompson’s comments are unsubstantiated and broad babble.
Marko Attila Hoare’s faith in kangaroo court antics reveal a flawed advocacy. Years ago, the UN had a resolution linking Zionism to racism. It was an “international” document. Does Hoare agree with that one? The point being that the “international” tag isn’t the end all for determining accuracy and virtue to a given set of issues. All of us haven’t always agreed to what a given international body has determined. A number of legal scholars and astute academics have credibly revealed the faulty manner of the ICTY. Hoare’s ongoing denial of Bosnian Muslim nationalist wrongdoing is in line with his ongoing display of deceit.
I’m considerably more objective than Hoare. This includes what I’ve said at the above referenced thread. On the other hand, he distorts what others besides myself have said.
Among the issues, is a fully confirmed review, revealing the Bosnian Civil War deaths at Srebrenica in terms of the ethnic breakdown of those killed and how they were killed (whether by summary execution, collateral damage, or as armed combatants). In that area, the stated Serb deaths have ranged in the hundreds to over 3,000. The former can be considered more believable than the latter. The stated 8,000 Muslims killed in Srebrenica during the war hasn’t clearly confirmed a breakdown on how they were killed (once again: whether by summary execution, collateral damage, or as armed combatants).
Along with some others, I wasn’t the one with the “poor grasp” of total Bosnian Civil War casualties. Hoare talks about “lies.” How about the “lies” regarding the overly bloated figures of 200,000 or more killed during the entire Bosnian Civil War and rape claims in the tens of thousands? His underhanded acknowledgement of this (at his blog) second guesses the now generally accepted 100,000 Bosnian Civil War casualty figure because of what he calls undocumented war related starvation and disease fatalities caused by the war. Hoare shows no conclusive evidence to support that suggestion. Instead, he brings up other conflicts where such war related deaths have been evident. It’s not evident relative to Bosnia. The civil war related to Biafra clearly included massive death by starvation. Likewise, wars fought in tropical jungle like conditions have led to mass deaths caused by diseases. All this isn’t evident vis-à-vis the Bosnian Civil War.
My comments about Alija Izetbegovic are more accurate than Hoare’s comments about Draza Miahailovic (reference Izetbegovic’s past in the below link to this note).
Hoare’s portrayal of the USSR in the time shortly before 1941 is in line with his skewed way of distorting the past and present.
The West’s selling out of Czechoslovakia to Hitler, Poland and Hungary in 1938 made it easier for the Nazis to attack the USSR.
In point of fact, the USSR offered the West a joint alliance against the dismemberment of Czechoslovakia. This offer was rejected. The West was no doubt hoping that the Nazis would just stay East. Recall Truman’s wish to see both regimes bleeding each other to a pulp.
All this is said with the understanding and revulsion that Stalin’s regime was brutish. It nevertheless had a reasonable basis for making its own deal with the Nazis. One that was encouraged by how the West chose to address the Czechoslovak matter in 1938.
Considering her fascist display in this discussion, Maja/Mayya is being quite bizarre in wrongly accusing me of such manner.
She was the one who brought up Russia. I appropriately replied to her comments.
Serbianna is far more objective than the Srebrenica Genocide Blog (SGB) and Greater Surbiton (GS). The latter two only post views in line with their overly one sided and often times faulty perspectives. Serbianna posts and links articles with views different from Serbianna’s contributors. Unlike the SGB and GS, I acknowledge Serb wrongdoing in a way that they don’t acknowledge Bosnian Muslim nationalist wrongs.
Maja/Mayya is quite a flake. On the one hand, she earlier acknowledged Bosnian Muslim nationalist propaganda efforts. On the other hand, she’s mute about going after such efforts as displayed at this thread.
Abdic is by no means perfect. The same holds true of Izetbegovic, whose 1970 Islamic Declaration and WW II ties I don’t appear to have distorted:
http://antiwar.com/malic/?articleid=1382
Fact based opinions citing factual instances. One can find plenty of other instances in well founded support of the above link.
Bosnia’s Croats opposed the Izetbegovic side during the war. This included instances of opposing him in conjunction with Abdic and-or the Serbs. This Bosnian Croat stance significantly changed after influential forces in the West gave them a carrot to do so. This quite likely included a green light for Operation Storm. In addition, the Croats are said to have skimmed Iranian arms deliveries to Izetbegovic’s side upon delivery into Croatia.
Philip – yes, it does, thanks. Daniel – I didn’t know about Nikola Jorgic. I’m surprised that he was tried at a German court :o
The following reflects another attempt on my part to have posted the below views to the propagandistic likes of the Srebrenica Genocide Blog.
Philip Thompson’s comments are unsubstantiated and broad babble.
Marko Attila Hoare’s faith in kangaroo court antics reveal a flawed advocacy. Years ago, the UN had a resolution linking Zionism to racism. It was an “international” document. Does Hoare agree with that one? The point being that the “international” tag isn’t the end all for determining accuracy and virtue to a given set of issues. All of us haven’t always agreed to what a given international body has determined. A number of legal scholars and astute academics have credibly revealed the faulty manner of the ICTY. Hoare’s ongoing denial of Bosnian Muslim nationalist wrongdoing is in line with his ongoing display of deceit.
While bashing Serbia and Russia at his propaganda blog, note that Hoare doesn’t use the term “genocide denier” to describe Turkey’s refusal to recognize what happened to the Armenians. Instead, he sugar coats Turkey as a democracy. meantime, what happened to the Armenians was much more of a genocide than what happened in Bosnia.
I’m considerably more objective than Hoare. This includes what I’ve said at this thread. On the other hand, he distorts what others besides myself have said.
Among the issues, is a fully confirmed review, revealing the Bosnian Civil War deaths at Srebrenica in terms of the ethnic breakdown of those killed and how they were killed (whether by summary execution, collateral damage, or as armed combatants). In that area, the stated Serb deaths have ranged in the hundreds to over 3,000. The former can be considered more believable than the latter. The stated 8,000 Muslims killed in Srebrenica during the war hasn’t clearly confirmed a breakdown on how they were killed (once again: whether by summary execution, collateral damage, or as armed combatants).
Along with some others, I wasn’t the one with the “poor grasp” of total Bosnian Civil War casualties. Hoare talks about “lies.” How about the “lies” regarding the overly bloated figures of 200,000 or more killed during the entire Bosnian Civil War and rape claims in the tens of thousands? His underhanded acknowledgement of this (at his blog) second guesses the now generally accepted 100,000 Bosnian Civil War casualty figure because of what he calls undocumented war related starvation and disease fatalities caused by the war. Hoare shows no conclusive evidence to support that suggestion. Instead, he brings up other conflicts where such war related deaths have been evident. It’s not evident relative to Bosnia. The civil war related to Biafra clearly included massive death by starvation. Likewise, wars fought in tropical jungle like conditions have led to mass deaths caused by diseases. All this isn’t evident vis-à-vis the Bosnian Civil War.
My comments about Alija Izetbegovic are more accurate than Hoare’s comments about Draza Miahailovic (reference Izetbegovic’s past in the below link to this note).
Hoare’s portrayal of the USSR in the time shortly before 1941 is in line with his skewed way of distorting the past and present.
The West’s selling out of Czechoslovakia to Hitler, Poland and Hungary in 1938 made it easier for the Nazis to attack the USSR.
In point of fact, the USSR offered the West a joint alliance against the dismemberment of Czechoslovakia. This offer was rejected. The West was no doubt hoping that the Nazis would just stay East. Recall Truman’s wish to see both regimes bleeding each other to a pulp.
All this is said with the understanding and revulsion that Stalin’s regime was brutish. It nevertheless had a reasonable basis for making its own deal with the Nazis. One that was encouraged by how the West chose to address the Czechoslovak matter in 1938.
Considering her fascist display in this discussion, Maja/Mayya is being quite bizarre in wrongly accusing me of such manner.
She was the one who brought up Russia. I appropriately replied to her comments.
Serbianna is far more objective than the Srebrenica Genocide Blog (SGB) and Greater Surbiton (GS). The latter two only post views in line with their overly one sided and often times faulty perspectives. Serbianna posts and links articles with views different from Serbianna’s contributors. Unlike the SGB and GS, I acknowledge Serb wrongdoing in a way that they don’t acknowledge Bosnian Muslim nationalist wrongs.
Maja/Mayya is quite a flake. On the one hand, she earlier acknowledged Bosnian Muslim nationalist propaganda efforts. On the other hand, she’s mute about going after such efforts as displayed at this thread.
Abdic is by no means perfect. The same holds true of Izetbegovic, whose 1970 Islamic Declaration and WW II ties I don’t appear to have distorted:
http://antiwar.com/malic/?articleid=1382
Fact based opinions citing factual instances. One can find plenty of other instances in well founded support of the above link.
In comparison to Abdic, what major Bosnian Serb leaders backed Izetbegovic during the Bosnian Civil War?
Overall, Bosnian Croats opposed the Izetbegovic side during the war. This included instances of opposing him in conjunction with Abdic and-or the Serbs. This Bosnian Croat stance started to significantly change after influential forces in the West gave them a carrot to do so. This quite likely included a green light for Operation Storm. In addition, the Croats are said to have skimmed Iranian arms deliveries to Izetbegovic’s side upon delivery into Croatia.
Owen – the reason I engaged in this discussion in the first place is that I thought Averko’s comment was the only and final comment on this topic. Normally I don’t engage in debates with ultra-nationalists, even if they hide their nationalism behind a facade of eloquence and quasi-intellectual rhetoric, the way Averko, a ‘New York based “independent” foreign policy analyst and media critic’ (quote from Serbianna) does – the reason I did it in this case is that I can not stand the fact that people (especially people from our part of Europe) would be reading his post and taking what he’s saying for granted, without seeing the other side’s arguments. I just can not STAND the Serb apologists’ hypocrisy. It’s mind-boggling how hypocritical and just plain EVIL their arguments are. What’s worse is that Serb people (and others) want to believe that they’re true. I know I sound indulgently self-righteous, but it’s just the way it is. The whole world disagrees with the Serbs – can the whole world be wrong and only the Serbs (and their orthodox allies, Russia and Greece and Ukraine and whoever) be right?
Anyway, I’d just like to say I’m grateful that you guys – who are obviously more qualified than me to discuss this – have also engaged in the debate. I’m also glad that people who are not from the region and who are not ethnic Xugoslavs are interested in the topic and are arguing our case – it really means a lot.
In any case, if anyone reads this and doesn’t know whom to believe, I suggest you look up independent international sources rather than listen to Averko’s (an my own) opinion. Thanks,
M.
[Considering her fascist display in this discussion, Maja/Mayya is being quite bizarre in wrongly accusing me of such manner.
She was the one who brought up Russia. I appropriately replied to her comments.]
seriously – what’s wrong with you man?