Comments on: Taiwan: What is the dream we have in the Olympic Game?

By: chan

chan — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:32:22 +0000

Olympic flame
The Olympic flame is “The light of knowledge, life and spirit and symbolises the handing down from generation to generation”. The Olympic flame, which symbolises the endeavor to perfection and struggle for victory, was first introduced to the Olympic Games in Amsterdam in 1928. The first Olympic Torch Relay was organised and run in Berlin in 1936.
Originally the suggestion of the Germans, Theodore Lewald, a torch is lit at Olympia in Greece, the home of the Ancient Olympics, and then carried by relay to the host city. The last runner, carrying the torch, runs into the main stadium at the time of the Opening Ceremony. The Olympic flame is then lit and allowed to burn throughout the Games until it is extinguished during the Closing Ceremony.

Olympic Motto
The Olympic motto Citius, Altius, Fortius, expresses the message which the IOC addresses to all who belong to the Olympic Movement, inviting them to excel in accordance with the Olympic spirit.
Citius, Altius, Fortius, which is Latin for faster, higher, stronger, was devised by a teacher friend of de Coubertin, a Dominican monk, Father Henri Didon.

The aims of the Olympic Movement area:
To promote the development of those physical and moral qualities which are the basis of sport
To educate young people through sport in a spirit of better understanding between each other, and of friendship, thereby helping to build a better and more peaceful world
To spread the Olympic principles throughout the world, thereby creating international goodwill
To bring together athletes of the world in the great four-yearly sports festival, the Olympic Games.
One of the major aims of the Olympism is “to improve the human race, not only physically, but to give it a greater nobility of spirit, and to strengthen understanding and friendship amongst peoples.”

By: chan

chan — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:16:48 +0000

knights,
I really like your idea, …:-) :-)especially the idea of using “prawn”, it suit my taste ..ha ha

By: Knights

Knights — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:57:22 +0000

“One good dream – one free world?”

Yes, one free world from Iraq war, one free world from master-slave serfdom system (let me clarify it’s the old tibet system just in case you are ignorant), one free world from CNN media distortion, one free world from western oppression. . . one free olympic from sabatage . . . . one free society/world from prejudice against handicap people (hint: paris incident)
shall I go on?

By: chan

chan — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:15:07 +0000

Any good dream will do, freedom & human right :-)

By: Ben

Ben — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 13:28:53 +0000

One good dream – one free world?

By: chan

chan — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:45:58 +0000

I like the title of this Blog ” what is the dream we have in the Olympic games ?” by I-fan rather “China: Curse of the Olympic mascots? ” by JK, which is meaningless to me.
May all the positive and good dreams come True, keep up with good dreams !!!!

By: ifan

ifan — Mon, 05 May 2008 22:52:21 +0000

Thanks for the info, Wei.
I did not question a specific point, but for our general discussion. If anyone wants to say something, he or she speaks for him/her-self, but if someone wants to say “the majority,” it’s better to provide proof for other people to think about the situation.
If you want to discuss a specific case like the protests in several countries, I agree there were many Chinese supporting these activities due to patriotism, and this is why I wrote another report about some Chinese reflecting the patriotism we saw in these activities.

By: Wei

Wei — Mon, 05 May 2008 03:59:13 +0000

Ifan…

What I wrote in reply to your similar post on other thread:

As far as going against the majority of the Chinese people, this is a feeling, the same as you don’t need the polls to tell you that Bush is unpopular in US. You or the well meaning people may choose to not believe this and still believe these protests are levied only against the CCP and not against the people of China; that is your choice; but ignoring that does no good for whatever goals you might want to reach. All my friends who were protesting against the Chinese government in 1989 are entirely on the side of promoting Olympics this time; some of them I know who have terrible things done to them by the CCP in the past. That says a lot.

By: ifan

ifan — Fri, 02 May 2008 22:00:14 +0000

To all the dear Chinese friends,
It’s our great honor to have you join this interesting discussion. It would be even greater if you can provide evidence when you make a claim about “the majority of Chinese.” Thanks.
By the way, since we discuss anonymously here, it would be funny to say someone is a “pretender” based only on imagination.

By: Wei

Wei — Fri, 02 May 2008 20:14:57 +0000

LOL Eugene…It’s no fun if you have to make a second post explaining yourself :)

It is interesting I made the list ;) The people who debate with me on Chinese sites are going to have a great laugh about your post as I am just about as CCP hostile as one can get.

This is the point that you guys missed completely…In this Olympic/Tibet issue, a majority of ordinary Chinese are well represented, wether they like CCP or not. The typical “we are not anti government but not anti Chinese people” argument is a failed tag line. A majority of Chinese do not want a quarter of their territory be carved out and lost because a deposed “living god” decides to play western politics.

By: eugene

eugene — Fri, 02 May 2008 18:03:15 +0000

if knights is allowed to say plus4chan is a “pretender” , than it works both ways. i see three people on this site who are always saying the same old tired argument about how the world is picking on china. they are knights, wei and ur chinese freind. why do they keep coming back to make sure they have the last word? i think they are speaking for the CPP. it is so obvious!

By: eugene

eugene — Fri, 02 May 2008 16:12:24 +0000

and knights,ur chinese freind and wei are puppets of the CPP

By: Knights

Knights — Fri, 02 May 2008 03:05:14 +0000

plus4chan is a pretender to be Chinese, he’s not! He’s one of Bush and Pelosi’s puppets!

By: plus4chan

plus4chan — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:59:06 +0000

>HK was leased out for 99 years.

Nope, the New Territories were leased out for 99 years. Hong Kong Island was ceded “in perpetuity”.

By: Matt Y.

Matt Y. — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:58:54 +0000

“R. Elgin”, OK, let’s leave the credibility issue of your professor friend as it is.
As to the S. Korean media, I don’t think they are in a good position to pick on the so-called Chinese nationalism.

I simply don’t believe that as a nation who shamelessly and unscrupulously claim many Chinese historical heritages as their own, AND teach their kids distorted history about the territories of their ancient empires, the S. Koreans stand in a justifiable position to comment on the “Chinese nationalism”.

If you bother to check the Chinese blogosphere, you will find that nowadays amongst our neighbours Japan is becoming more and more welcomed as a country. They do still have a few cheeseheads running around inciting hatred but the general public there are getting much more reasonable. Whereas the Koreans are just never taken seriously as to what they say/do. They are just a joke, most of the time.

I’m now in Shanghai. We have lots of S. Korean students here in my uni, which is nationally prestiged. They are always the noisiest, the most unscrupulous and the most unpopular ones here.

If somebody, during the demonstration in Seoul, broke the law of S. Korea, they should be subjected to the local court of justice. The so-called riot started all because some people from either the pro-Tibet group or the pro-N.Korea Runaway group started the flame and physically challenged some Chinese students.

Speculations here don’t help, not at all.