Comments on: Bulgaria, Macedonia: Blog Wars Over History

By: Methodius

Methodius — Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:44:43 +0000

If the Greeks can produce artefacts & records proving the Alexander III was a Hellenic Macedonian 336BC, then surely they must be able to substantiate claims that the same Macedonians had not been assimilated into Slavic settlement of the region in the 6th Century. The Slavic assimilated the Thracians and were themselves assimilated into a Turkic people hence the term ‘Bulgari.’
Telling a Macedonian that he is Bulgarian is equivalent to telling an American slave trader that he is a black african. No offence meant to any persons.

By: Methodius

Methodius — Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:09:51 +0000

Refer to the Helsinki Final Act 07/08 1975 and look at the reality of your claim.

If you don’t wish to live in Republic of Macedonia, then there is no reason for you not to migrate to Republic of Albania.
KOSOVO is SERBIA and will remain SERBIAN.

By: Methodius

Methodius — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 02:00:17 +0000

macedonia population is a slavic population and attends meetings of the slavic congress. the macedonian language is close to the russian language and share the orthodox church. we have no problem being close to russia. all soviet and eastern bloc slavic countries have no problem with alignment to russia especially in hardship. russian theatre and ballet troupes are regular visitors throughout the balkans and slavic world even today. there is no monopoly board, the russians are always welcome and close associates to macedonia. america will continue to provide false hope and reprints to american university textbooks, little else. they will send consulting firms to creme off profits from already successful enterprises. sooner there is a pro- slavic and pro- russian alignment eg. serbia the better. EU, NATO and USA are not suitable masters, they will act to move benchmarks, net benefit for macedonia will be zero.

By: bogdan

bogdan — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 22:20:27 +0000

This qoute, by an romanian historian: “Bulgarii turanici au fost un neam nu foarte numeros care a luat în stapânire Tracia populata de vlahi si slavi”

It means this: bulgarian turanics was a small nation that conquer the land populated with VLAHI( romanians) and slavi.

Vlahi= tracians=romanian=valahian=getae-dacs.

In actual day people of Bulgarian are bulgarians, they do not have any link with macedonian.
I love you macedonian people, brothers in blood with romanians.
TRACIANS was the greatest nation in whole Europe, long before piramides appear in world.
They rule the word for the first time 5000 years ago or more, smarter then greeks.
But nobody talks about them, on Discovery Ch, National G, History ch, i hear over and over about vikings( criminals, subdue France, Spain, UK), romans( italians), greek, Hitler…. but not a single word about THRACIANS, greater europeans civilization then all of this.
THRACIANS was indo-europeans, the first people that settle in Europe.
Roman Empire conquer ancient Dacia( Romania today) 2000 years ago, after a lot of battles, they steal from Dacia 800 tonnes of gold and silver.
Image what richeness was in THRACIANS land, in DACIA.
A lot of monastires, castles , whole cities from Italy and Roman Empire was build with gold taken from Dacia.
Traian Columnes from Italy described battle between Traian and Decebal, the king of dacians, my ancestor.
We should be proud about thracians.
Sarmizegetuza was capital of THRACIAN EMPIRE, in city of Alba-Iulia today, Romania, UE.
Dacia was so powerfull and large that Roman Empire manage to conquer only 1/5 of it.
In this territory of 1/5 of Dacia they stayed about 150 years.
Telling that romanians are italians at origins are not entirely true, because only 1/5 of Dacia was subdue to Roman Empire, and only 100-150 years.
Romanians are related with italians in some degree, a small one.
Romanian speak latin language long before romans( italians) exist.
Thracians are latin language inventors, not italians( romans).
Herodot tell us that dacians was the breavest among all thracians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getae

Look in this pictures from this link, on that map are dacians,getae( synonym for dacians), macedonians, but no bulgarians.
Bulgarians does not deserve Macedonian land, they came in thracian land 5000 years later.

Thracian nation stand for Europe 5000 years, in these day Europe was Turkish or mongols if Thracians does not fight 5000 years.
5000 years thracians fight over and over for their land, and in that time in other parts was peace……other civilization build pyramides…. etc… Thracian could not do that, they was fighthing over and over with barbarians.
Few houndred years ago russians does not exist, at that time mongols are in russia today teritory.

THRACIAN was latin nation.
In S-E Europe only romanians, aromanians from Greek, and few others speak latin language.

Also aromanians from GREEK are romanian, pure THRACIANS.
Also THRACIANS are in Serbia, but serbian autorities kill their customs, their language, their land, they have no rights by serbian law to learn in romanian language…to have an romanian church.
SERBIA is in UE today, but no vale… still pratice indoctrination like Stalin.
Hungary practice indoctrination as well, with hungary citizen from Great Romania.
Also Greek, with aromanians, albanians, etc.
In Serbian live 500.000 romanians, in the past Serbia was romanian land.

LONG LIVE MACEDONIA.

By: bogdan

bogdan — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:37:36 +0000

But oldest people that like in BUlgaria was also TRACIANS, now they are slavi….. to bad….. i think integration into UE is the solution.

By: bogdan

bogdan — Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:32:27 +0000

Macedonians are TRACIANS, an antic people that roumed Europe before any other nation, 5000 year ago or more.
The best among TRACIANS are DACIANS, romanian today.
Macedoian is tracians like romanians, are latins.
Bulgaria, Rusia, etc are slavi.

Macedonia, Albania, and aromanii from Greek are TRACIANS.

Like ME.

By: Doncho

Doncho — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:19:03 +0000

Colleagues
We are trying to concentrate information about Bulgaria in different directions. Would be good to get your questions to answer.

Best regards,
D

By: KpEMuKoBcu

KpEMuKoBcu — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:58:26 +0000

WOW that’s the bigest bunch of baloney I’ve ever heard.Me and the 3 other guys reading this,just died from laughter.My advice to you is stop reading the fake comie books,and learn some real history.Here,I’m giving you a cite where you can start your education.

Wikipedia.com

Here you can see in about 13 languages,all the people you just mentioned,were Bulgarians.It’s a neutral source based only on true historical documents,so don’t post the excuse “You Tatars manipulate the world history,you have God like powers to make everybody believe,your version” and etc..
Knowledge is power.

By: Peter

Peter — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:13:21 +0000

Here is something Greeks like to hide from. Greek Court Vindicates Nazi Costas Plevris. Greek Helsinki Monitor(GHM) condemns the aquital, on 27 March 2009, by an Athens Five-Member Appeals Court, of Costas Plevris who had been tried on appeal after a first instance conviction for a double violation of anti-racism law 927/79. Mr. Plevris book,he blames the Jews for everything since the world was created, he does not do so “solely on the grounds of their racial or ethnic origin or religion”. Greek Justice deemed that sayings such as the following do not incite racial discrimination or violence(necessary gor the law againts racism to be enforced): they are not even insulting” Thats what the Jews want. Thats the only thing they understand. An execution squad within twenty-four hours.” “Jews and human being are incompatible terms;being one exludes the other.”Their whole criminal behavior not only excuses the acts the Nazis committed againts them, it justifies them.” “History will hold Adolf Hitler responsible for not ridding Europe of the Jews when he had it in his power to do so.”We scorn them for their morals,scorn them for their religion and the things they do, which taken all together prove that they are sub-human.” This individual and his father deffending him are both members of the Greek Parliament. This same individual claimed to execute all Macedonians who do not accept the greekness.Mr.Plevris is forgetting one very importent thing,The ethnic Macedonians are the real Macedonians and not the “Greeks”. These Macedonians are the indigenous people of that land. For the whole story on this subject please see;”Wiesenthal Center urges Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe(OSCE) to call Greece to Account for Violation of 2004 Berlin Declaration on Antisemitism.” Wiesenthal Center Los Angeles. Paris,30 March 2009. A letter was sent to Dora Bakoyanis on this matter since Greece is the Chairperson-in-Office from the Wiesenthal Center. Please read both reports. In my oppinion, this is the most shameful behavior of a State that is a nember of the EU , NATO and in the United Nations.It is shameful that some House Representatives and Senators in the United States are supporting Greece and the Greek Lobying group againts the tiny land locked Republic of Macedonia who is fightin terrorist in Iraq and Afganistan who is neither a member of NATO nor EU. If these House Representatives and Senators love the country they represent,they should support Macedonias efforts to join these organizations without reservations.

By: Peter

Peter — Sat, 11 Apr 2009 21:47:42 +0000

To KpEMuKoBcu,I dont like to insult you, but you are giving me no choice.Are you from a different planet? Macedonia existed long before Bulgaria.Furtheremore,in 1903 Bulgaria was under the Ottoman Empire as was Macedinia.Bulgarians like the Greeks were cooperating with the Turks againts the Macedonian people.This is true even durring the Nazi occupation,Bulgaria was with Hitler as did Greece. Greeces Queen wore the Swastica.The first Bulgarian President and First Secretary of the BKP was a Macedonian Georgi Dimitrov,I repeat,a Macedonian after the 2nd world War.Goce Delchev,Pitu Guli, Jane Sandanski,Nikola Karev and many more were proud Macedonians. The Macedonians were closer to Bulgaria because we found the Greeks to be worse,but,Bulgaria became the worst enemy for the Macedonian people.Remember one thing,Macedonia existed centuries before Bulgaria became a country,dont you ever forget that.Pirinska Makedonja was given to you by the Big Powers in 1912-13.While Dimitrov was the head of the Nation the Macedonians had their own schools in Bulgaria. Today, Bulgaria choose to be like Greece.It is a shame,I always thought we were the closest of friends,respecting each others identity.I am suprised with your behaviour.The Macedonian people durring the 1922-28 the people exchange between Greece and Turkey, a lot of Macedonians preffered to emigrate to Bulgaria rather than to be under the Greek fascist regime.Comments like yours would have not bothered me if I did not know my history,but I do and strongly dissagree with your absurd comments.

By: KpEMuKoBcu

KpEMuKoBcu — Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:17:12 +0000

Goce Delcev, Jane Sandanski, Nikola Karev, Pitu Guli how can they be “Macedonians” when no such country exists.Delchev wrote thousands of times that he is a Bulgarian and,Jane Sandanski…..Come on,Sandanski is a BULGARIAN city…..
Bulgarians don’t have a problem wit “Macedonians”.They look at them as their brothers.Even I didn’t have a problem with them before i registered on YouTube and saw the hundreds of clips “Bulgars are Tatars”,”Bulgars thiefs”.The typical sing of FYROM-ers is swearing with no reason.Since we are thiefs,why I’ve never seen evidence supporting the existence of a ethnic Macedonian nation?A nation with 2000 years of history should of preserved a lot of traditions and their own language.On the other hand,the citizens of FYROM speak Bulgarian,sing Bulgarian songs and officially were created in 1991.Just take a look at Wikipedia or any other history cite,you’ll see the same.And I’ve got a question for you.If the IMRO were “Macedonians” why did the money for the return of Miss Stone was payed of in Bulgarian.And why did the Sultan of Turkey kept Bulgaria responsible for the IMRO’s affairs.There was even a moment when the Bulgarian government wanted to close the IMRO,under Turkish pressure.Why would our government close something that is “Macedonian”?Wasn’t there an old saying:
“Koi ima ochi ke vidi,koi ima ushi ke chue”.
Sorry if there are some mistakes,I’m not use to this version of Bulgarian.

By: Peter

Peter — Fri, 03 Apr 2009 21:09:49 +0000

Yordanov, you are no different than the Greeks.Why are you people are attempting to steal the Macedonian history of Antiquity,but even our Macedonian heros? Durring the Ilinden Uprising the Macedonians fought the Ottoman Empire.Macedonians fought againts the Italian and Nazis durring the second world war,but you with the Greeks sided with the enemies. Remember my Bulgarian friend,Goce Delchev,Jane Sandanski,Pitu Guli Nikola Karev were Macedonian.The first Bulgarian President post second world war was a Macedonian, Georgi Dimitrov.Durring his helm in the govermnent,the Macedonians in Bulgaria had full rights as everybody in Bulgaria,except now you took the same path as your Greek friends,shame on you! We the Macedonians are proud Macedonians! No body will change that.

By: damqn yordanov

damqn yordanov — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 23:33:02 +0000

From what I see here I can only say that “Macedonians” will always remain the so called in Bulgaian ‘Enichari’(Srabski Enichari)!What does ‘enichari’ mean? First of all ‘enichari’ is a word-plural which is used by Bulgarians(only) to describe somebody(usually a very young child-baby) which was taken of their parents by the rulers that had invaded or had control over the given country, brainwash them against someone or a nation(like the serbians did with the macedonians towards the bulgarians),turn them worriors of their own country and use them to make their force bigger. All of you talk about Macedonians being Greek or Bulgarian or whatever! I can tell you that nowadays every nation is a mix between ethnicities,tribes,races,…so there isn’t a proper ethnicity for those people in Macedonia!
I believe Macedonia is Bulgarian because since the Bulgarian Empire on the balkans was created those regians were populated with bulgarian people!Eventually everything was broken up and the World Wars period came and even though the macedonians were joining the bulgarian army and fighting for it and fightng for ‘United Bulgaria’ none of them had the pleasure to achieve their aims. Nowadays people from bulgarian ethnicity are spread every where-Banadian bulgarians,bessarabian bulgarians,macedonians,bulgarian immigrands or even the so called American bulgarians who were the bulgarians that had the chance and the luck to leave Bulgaria and go to establish the new country-USA.Also proves of Bavarian Germans that belong ot bulgarian ethnicity and a lot and alot of other bulgarian mixes around the whole world. A lot of hthem have no idea or any good to know they are bulgarians and nobody wants them to that’s why I don’t think that Bulgaria needs Macedonia and that’s why I’m one of theese people who would admit Macedonia as a country but I will never admit “Macedonian” traditions or language because even though there are differences they all come from the same place-BULGARIA!!!!

By: Peter

Peter — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:41:43 +0000

It is very funny for both the Bulgarians and Greeks claiming Macedonia belongs to them.What are you waiting for,why are you not raising this question at the United Nations?. Whats stopping you, you poor people in solving this problem?.Both of you shouting Macedonia is yours,quess what,Macedonia belongs to the Macedonians,thats the reason you poor little people will continue to cry till you end-up in your graves.Have you read the UN report on the issue of Minorities in Greece .Have you seen the dialog on the Greek TV with Voskopulos,Parisis and Vallianatos with four anti-Macedonians? The title was”Who are playing with the minorities in Greece and why”.Whu is Greece up in arms on the report of Miss.MacDougals from the UN.Greece is accusing Miss. MacDougal as being paid by Soros.Isnt this a pure fabrication of the Greek government?. Here is a comment from Gandeto”There is no large-enough blanket in this world with which they can cover their lies.Such a manumental task is ,indeed, technically impossible to accomplish. And ever if such a blanket is invented and they can somehow cover their lies and fabrications with it, the enormity of the stench that will emanate from the rot will be so unbearably toxic and overpowering, that no human being on this earth will be able to withstand it.”This refferance was made to the Greeks. Here one more quote;”You fellows are true students of the art of manipulations. As a matter of fact, you have not only mastered the art of manipulating the text but have brought it to another level; the level of highest distinction like so many other things that you Greeks have invented this, the art of fabrication,is deservedly yours. You have won the argument hands down.”This,from the “Fabrication of Macedonian history” same author.

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