Comments on: Video on Flickr: An apple of dischord http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/09/video-on-flickr-an-apple-of-dischord/ The world is talking. Are you listening? Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:38:48 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: zadam http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/09/video-on-flickr-an-apple-of-dischord/comment-page-1/#comment-1434822 zadam Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:56:00 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/09/video-on-flickr-an-apple-of-dischord/#comment-1434822 i'm in two minds about flickr's new video features. on the one hand, i'm concerned about a general deterioration in the typically high quality of flickr contributions - from what i've seen so far, the content of the first round of video uploads, while containing interesting subjects, are not particularly well filmed, framed or edited. fair enough, i suppose, but photography and video are two very different media, and a clunky video doesnt have the same romance as the awfully distorted and skewed photograph that your cheaper eastern european camera spits out. i'm also concerned that yahoo are trying to establish a kind of "one stop shop" for media content. this has happened most notably with myspace and facebook, with traditional users being saturated with a whole variety of features they never knew they needed. the end result is a ragged online society devoid of the original focus that attracted its community to begin with. admittedly, it's only a single feature that has been added - and one that might seem a logical progression - but til now, the added features of flickr have been limited to orbiting directly around still photography. mapping tags, photo blogs. the desire to keep things photo based brought some creative and innovative tools and features to the flickr community. as i said, though, i'm in two minds. i have a tendency towards puritanism. when ipods first hit the mainstream, i stubbornly maintained that the power of a tangible record cover could never be replicated in digital form. it also took me a few years to be convinced that i needed to be contact-able 24/7 by mobile phone. so perhaps this is yet another expression of my predictable tech inertia. perhaps it's healthy to be so cynical. perhaps it's only video on flickr, and perhaps i should spend my worrying time on bigger things. -zadam i’m in two minds about flickr’s new video features. on the one hand, i’m concerned about a general deterioration in the typically high quality of flickr contributions – from what i’ve seen so far, the content of the first round of video uploads, while containing interesting subjects, are not particularly well filmed, framed or edited. fair enough, i suppose, but photography and video are two very different media, and a clunky video doesnt have the same romance as the awfully distorted and skewed photograph that your cheaper eastern european camera spits out.

i’m also concerned that yahoo are trying to establish a kind of “one stop shop” for media content. this has happened most notably with myspace and facebook, with traditional users being saturated with a whole variety of features they never knew they needed. the end result is a ragged online society devoid of the original focus that attracted its community to begin with. admittedly, it’s only a single feature that has been added – and one that might seem a logical progression – but til now, the added features of flickr have been limited to orbiting directly around still photography. mapping tags, photo blogs. the desire to keep things photo based brought some creative and innovative tools and features to the flickr community.

as i said, though, i’m in two minds. i have a tendency towards puritanism. when ipods first hit the mainstream, i stubbornly maintained that the power of a tangible record cover could never be replicated in digital form. it also took me a few years to be convinced that i needed to be contact-able 24/7 by mobile phone. so perhaps this is yet another expression of my predictable tech inertia. perhaps it’s healthy to be so cynical. perhaps it’s only video on flickr, and perhaps i should spend my worrying time on bigger things.

-zadam

]]> By: sbostedor http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/09/video-on-flickr-an-apple-of-dischord/comment-page-1/#comment-1428002 sbostedor Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:00:53 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/09/video-on-flickr-an-apple-of-dischord/#comment-1428002 I see the disconnect here. There seems to be an elitist crowd who believe that this website is only for photographers who want to display their artistic pictures. The reality is that Flickr has many dimensions. Most of my pictures on the website are very amateur images of my family posted for friends and family. The majority of the images on Flicr are just like mine. Video fits in very nicely here. Flickr is not just a playground for professional photographers. It never has been and never will be. I see the disconnect here. There seems to be an elitist crowd who believe that this website is only for photographers who want to display their artistic pictures.

The reality is that Flickr has many dimensions. Most of my pictures on the website are very amateur images of my family posted for friends and family. The majority of the images on Flicr are just like mine. Video fits in very nicely here.

Flickr is not just a playground for professional photographers. It never has been and never will be.

]]> By: G-G http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/09/video-on-flickr-an-apple-of-dischord/comment-page-1/#comment-1427815 G-G Fri, 11 Apr 2008 06:48:58 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/09/video-on-flickr-an-apple-of-dischord/#comment-1427815 I am also a Flickr pro-account user and I agree with Fabricio Jimenez on all points. No one is "against" the idea of video itself- I love youtube and I'm also a member of that site! But Flickr was great as a photo-only community and it should remain as such, especially since those of us who paid yearly membership fees to be members of this site paid when it was photo-only and expected it to remain that way. I am also concerned about slowness and "junk" videos, although what one defines as "junk" may vary, of course =). If Flickr wishes to expand into video to compete with youtube, it should just open a partner but SEPARATE website to Flickr photo. Finally, I think what many Flickr account holders are fearing is a loss of the artistic side of Flickr. Not to say that there aren't terrible photos on Flickr or that all the photos are highly artistic, but it is a different web environment than, say, YouTube where any idiot (including me!) who can point a shaky cellphone cam or video cam can get a thousand hits on their video. It's a different thing entirely and should remain separate. I am also a Flickr pro-account user and I agree with Fabricio Jimenez on all points. No one is “against” the idea of video itself- I love youtube and I’m also a member of that site! But Flickr was great as a photo-only community and it should remain as such, especially since those of us who paid yearly membership fees to be members of this site paid when it was photo-only and expected it to remain that way. I am also concerned about slowness and “junk” videos, although what one defines as “junk” may vary, of course =).
If Flickr wishes to expand into video to compete with youtube, it should just open a partner but SEPARATE website to Flickr photo.

Finally, I think what many Flickr account holders are fearing is a loss of the artistic side of Flickr. Not to say that there aren’t terrible photos on Flickr or that all the photos are highly artistic, but it is a different web environment than, say, YouTube where any idiot (including me!) who can point a shaky cellphone cam or video cam can get a thousand hits on their video. It’s a different thing entirely and should remain separate.

]]> By: Fabricio Jiménez http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/09/video-on-flickr-an-apple-of-dischord/comment-page-1/#comment-1427467 Fabricio Jiménez Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:20:09 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/09/video-on-flickr-an-apple-of-dischord/#comment-1427467 I am a Flickr Pro-account user and the reason that I bought the Pro account is just because I wanted to join a photography-only community. I have no issues with people wanting to create and share videos, or any other media type for that matter. The 'junk' and slowness issues are the ones that I'm worried about. I am a Flickr Pro-account user and the reason that I bought the Pro account is just because I wanted to join a photography-only community. I have no issues with people wanting to create and share videos, or any other media type for that matter. The ‘junk’ and slowness issues are the ones that I’m worried about.

]]> By: Notes from a Teacher: Mark on Media » Wednesday squibs http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/09/video-on-flickr-an-apple-of-dischord/comment-page-1/#comment-1427076 Notes from a Teacher: Mark on Media » Wednesday squibs Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:00:24 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/09/video-on-flickr-an-apple-of-dischord/#comment-1427076 [...] Video on Flickr: An apple of dischord. The still image folk are apparently not happy with pro users being able to upload 90 second clips. Related: A bit of discussion about what Flickr video may mean for journalists is going on over at Paul Bradshaw’s place. [...] [...] Video on Flickr: An apple of dischord. The still image folk are apparently not happy with pro users being able to upload 90 second clips. Related: A bit of discussion about what Flickr video may mean for journalists is going on over at Paul Bradshaw’s place. [...]

]]> By: sbostedor http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/09/video-on-flickr-an-apple-of-dischord/comment-page-1/#comment-1426844 sbostedor Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:36:17 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/09/video-on-flickr-an-apple-of-dischord/#comment-1426844 I don't understand why they protest the video on Flickr. I think it's great and a natural progression. If they don't want video, then simply don't upload video. It's your typical control geek who thinks that there should be strict rules to make everyone operate the same way that they do. I don’t understand why they protest the video on Flickr. I think it’s great and a natural progression. If they don’t want video, then simply don’t upload video. It’s your typical control geek who thinks that there should be strict rules to make everyone operate the same way that they do.

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