Comments on: India: The Olympic Torch and Tibet http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/05/virtual-india-on-tibet-and-motorola/ The world is talking. Are you listening? Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:56:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Sutapas Bhattacharya http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/05/virtual-india-on-tibet-and-motorola/comment-page-1/#comment-1428857 Sutapas Bhattacharya Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:23:57 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/05/virtual-india-on-tibet-and-motorola/#comment-1428857 India is Indo-Centric, and if our interests coincide with West, we will cooperate with West. Presently our civilisation faces threats from Han imperialism and Mohammedans in West who, as with Pak nukes, work together. India was opposed to Burmese junta but given increasing Chinese presence in Burma has needed to engage junta to counter Chinese influence including destablization of India's North-East. China is building naval bases in Burma. A few months ago Indian, Japanese, US and Australian navies held joint exercises in Bay of Bengal. This week, German Navy held joint exercises with Indian Navy and Germany (Merkel very pro-Tibet)will sell latest high-tech weaponry to India. India also has Phalcon AWACs which China wanted but US would not allow to be sold to Communist dictatorship. I like to compare rise of China and India to Sparta and Athens. China, like Sparta is just brute,crude military power, enslaving other races, but little creativity as totalitarian mindset. India is more like Athens, leaving a legacy of ideas. Hu Shih, a Chinese ambassador to USA, said that India conquered China without a single soldier. 35,000 Chinese words are of Sanskrit, Pali origin and Kung Fu, Feng Shui, Chinese Herbal medicine etc. are also Indian in origin as was block printing. S.E. Asia was called Greater India due to Indo-Aryan influence from Korea (first king married Indian) to Indonesia. Of course India had massive westward influence as well. Greek philosophia came from Jain Yoga (see Thomas McEvilley, The Shape of Ancient Thought) and so-called 'Arabic' numerals, algebra, arithmetic, zero, solution to general eqns etc. are all indian. As A.L. Basham noted, medieval Arabs called maths 'Hindisat' (Art of Hindus). Chinese 'soft power' now means N.Korea, Tibet, Uighurs, Burma, Darfur, Zimbabwe etc. In 1950s, Arnold Toynbee predicted that in 21st Century, India would conquer her conquerors with her ideas. This is already happening. Buddhism came out of Brahmanism. Tibetan Buddhism is old Indian tantric Buddhism. Tibetan Dzogchen is much like Brahmanism. I have identified brain correlate of Divine Light (a.k.a. Atman, Buddha Nature, Inner Light of Christ, al haqq, Godhead)with well-known brainwaves and such knowledge will undermine all theistic religions in due course - see my The Divine Light and the Mystery of Existence (on EmazipationeHumanum website) or my book on Google Books!. Sutapas Bhattacharya India is Indo-Centric, and if our interests coincide with West, we will cooperate with West. Presently our civilisation faces threats from Han imperialism and Mohammedans in West who, as with Pak nukes, work together. India was opposed to Burmese junta but given increasing Chinese presence in Burma has needed to engage junta to counter Chinese influence including destablization of India’s North-East. China is building naval bases in Burma. A few months ago Indian, Japanese, US and Australian navies held joint exercises in Bay of Bengal. This week, German Navy held joint exercises with Indian Navy and Germany (Merkel very pro-Tibet)will sell latest high-tech weaponry to India. India also has Phalcon AWACs which China wanted but US would not allow to be sold to Communist dictatorship.
I like to compare rise of China and India to Sparta and Athens. China, like Sparta is just brute,crude military power, enslaving other races, but little creativity as totalitarian mindset. India is more like Athens, leaving a legacy of ideas. Hu Shih, a Chinese ambassador to USA, said that India conquered China without a single soldier. 35,000 Chinese words are of Sanskrit, Pali origin and Kung Fu, Feng Shui, Chinese Herbal medicine etc. are also Indian in origin as was block printing. S.E. Asia was called Greater India due to Indo-Aryan influence from Korea (first king married Indian) to Indonesia. Of course India had massive westward influence as well. Greek philosophia came from Jain Yoga (see Thomas McEvilley, The Shape of Ancient Thought) and so-called ‘Arabic’ numerals, algebra, arithmetic, zero, solution to general eqns etc. are all indian. As A.L. Basham noted, medieval Arabs called maths ‘Hindisat’ (Art of Hindus).
Chinese ’soft power’ now means N.Korea, Tibet, Uighurs, Burma, Darfur, Zimbabwe etc. In 1950s, Arnold Toynbee predicted that in 21st Century, India would conquer her conquerors with her ideas. This is already happening. Buddhism came out of Brahmanism. Tibetan Buddhism is old Indian tantric Buddhism. Tibetan Dzogchen is much like Brahmanism. I have identified brain correlate of Divine Light (a.k.a. Atman, Buddha Nature, Inner Light of Christ, al haqq, Godhead)with well-known brainwaves and such knowledge will undermine all theistic religions in due course – see my The Divine Light and the Mystery of Existence (on EmazipationeHumanum website) or my book on Google Books!.
Sutapas Bhattacharya

]]> By: sanjana kapoor http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/05/virtual-india-on-tibet-and-motorola/comment-page-1/#comment-1428661 sanjana kapoor Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:48:03 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/05/virtual-india-on-tibet-and-motorola/#comment-1428661 well!!! Amir,its not just a game, but its about human life..dont you have any feelings...no one would appreciate if you carry olympic torch. well!!! Amir,its not just a game, but its about human life..dont you have any feelings…no one would appreciate if you carry olympic torch.

]]> By: sanjana kapoor http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/05/virtual-india-on-tibet-and-motorola/comment-page-1/#comment-1428660 sanjana kapoor Sat, 12 Apr 2008 02:43:48 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/05/virtual-india-on-tibet-and-motorola/#comment-1428660 it realy sadend me that amir khan is taking a torch for the olympic game.well!! it's very diplomatic to say i am carying with the prayer.i am sure all your fans would be very upset with you. who are you?if you dont have fan amir? well!!! think twice!! it realy sadend me that amir khan is taking a torch for the olympic game.well!! it’s very diplomatic to say i am carying with the prayer.i am sure all your fans would be very upset with you.
who are you?if you dont have fan amir? well!!! think twice!!

]]> By: Nano http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/05/virtual-india-on-tibet-and-motorola/comment-page-1/#comment-1428617 Nano Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:35:27 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/05/virtual-india-on-tibet-and-motorola/#comment-1428617 @Sutapas Bhattacharya "India’s interest lies in standing up for freedom." Sure, India is apparently democratic and stands for freedom. It has been intimately involved with Burma's trade and supporting the Burmese junta, yet it has not being singled out for western bashing. Why? Because it is the west's LAPPING DOG. @Sutapas Bhattacharya
“India’s interest lies in standing up for freedom.”

Sure, India is apparently democratic and stands for freedom. It has been intimately involved with Burma’s trade and supporting the Burmese junta, yet it has not being singled out for western bashing. Why? Because it is the west’s LAPPING DOG.

]]> By: David Collin http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/05/virtual-india-on-tibet-and-motorola/comment-page-1/#comment-1427757 David Collin Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:05:25 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/05/virtual-india-on-tibet-and-motorola/#comment-1427757 I seriously think that those protesters are not real Buddhist. Buddhist promote peace, not to creat war & fight. These people were creating fights, they even attacked a girl on a wheelchair. What a shame!!! They are insulting the whole Olympic spirit, insulting all sportsman around the world. They talk about human right. Yes, they have the right to protest, to tell people about your political view. But they have no right to kill the spirit of Olympic, to kill the dream of millions of people who want to join the Game! I seriously think that those protesters are not real Buddhist. Buddhist promote peace, not to creat war & fight. These people were creating fights, they even attacked a girl on a wheelchair. What a shame!!! They are insulting the whole Olympic spirit, insulting all sportsman around the world.

They talk about human right. Yes, they have the right to protest, to tell people about your political view. But they have no right to kill the spirit of Olympic, to kill the dream of millions of people who want to join the Game!

]]> By: Sutapas Bhattacharya http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/05/virtual-india-on-tibet-and-motorola/comment-page-1/#comment-1423636 Sutapas Bhattacharya Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:29:39 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/05/virtual-india-on-tibet-and-motorola/#comment-1423636 Chinese internet propaganda is suggesting that Dalai Lama and nonproductive Tibetan monks are hurting India's interests. On the contrary, India has a proud history of giving sanctuary to persecuted peoples such as Jews fleeing Babylonian exile and Zoroastrians fleeing Mohammedan persecution in Persia. The Tatas are such Parsees. India's interest lies in standing up for freedom. Note that weak UPA coalition relies on CPI(M) in W. Bengal which maintains power with votes from millions of illegal Bangladeshis (hence Taslima expelled). Why is Indian policy of China-appeasement being dictated by a regional party relying upon Muslim illegal immigrants! My CPI(M) relative even has books by Eric Honecker, the disgraced East German dictator famous for his Stazi Police State. UK Channel 4's Undercover Tibet showed Chinese Police State Terror in Tibet. UK Guardian (Saturday) tells of repression of Uighurs also occupied by PRC. China gave Pakistan the nuclear blueprint and via N. Korea missiles. Wake up Indians, Chinese imperialism is the real threat to India and we must stand up to support Tibetan and Uighur independence from Han colonialism. Sutapas Bhattacharya Chinese internet propaganda is suggesting that Dalai Lama and nonproductive Tibetan monks are hurting India’s interests. On the contrary, India has a proud history of giving sanctuary to persecuted peoples such as Jews fleeing Babylonian exile and Zoroastrians fleeing Mohammedan persecution in Persia. The Tatas are such Parsees. India’s interest lies in standing up for freedom. Note that weak UPA coalition relies on CPI(M) in W. Bengal which maintains power with votes from millions of illegal Bangladeshis (hence Taslima expelled). Why is Indian policy of China-appeasement being dictated by a regional party relying upon Muslim illegal immigrants! My CPI(M) relative even has books by Eric Honecker, the disgraced East German dictator famous for his Stazi Police State. UK Channel 4’s Undercover Tibet showed Chinese Police State Terror in Tibet. UK Guardian (Saturday) tells of repression of Uighurs also occupied by PRC. China gave Pakistan the nuclear blueprint and via N. Korea missiles. Wake up Indians, Chinese imperialism is the real threat to India and we must stand up to support Tibetan and Uighur independence from Han colonialism.
Sutapas Bhattacharya

]]> By: Riversword2008 http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/05/virtual-india-on-tibet-and-motorola/comment-page-1/#comment-1423511 Riversword2008 Sun, 06 Apr 2008 07:19:04 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/05/virtual-india-on-tibet-and-motorola/#comment-1423511 I thought Sikkim is India's Tibet. A nation taken control by India. I thought Sikkim is India’s Tibet. A nation taken control by India.

]]> By: anita http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/05/virtual-india-on-tibet-and-motorola/comment-page-1/#comment-1423214 anita Sat, 05 Apr 2008 23:53:33 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/04/05/virtual-india-on-tibet-and-motorola/#comment-1423214 Currently in Tibet China's deadly attack on Tibetans in Tongkor Township (Karze County) in southeastern Tibet on April 3rd came after Chinese authorities detained two monks for possessing photos of the Dalai Lama following a raid by over 3,000-armed police at Tongkor monastery. The police opened fire on the crowd of over 700 people, nearly half of whom were monks, gathered to protest the arrests. All Tibetan areas remain closed off to independent media, but eyewitness reports from all across Tibet describe horrific beatings, suicide attempts by monks locked inside their monasteries, house-to-house searches, and large groups of Tibetans being boarded onto trains at Lhasa's new railway station. As the situation inside Tibet remains critical, several peaceful protests and actions are planned for tomorrow's relay here in London. Currently in Tibet

China’s deadly attack on Tibetans in Tongkor Township (Karze County) in southeastern Tibet on April 3rd came after Chinese authorities detained two monks for possessing photos of the Dalai Lama following a raid by over 3,000-armed police at Tongkor monastery. The police opened fire on the crowd of over 700 people, nearly half of whom were monks, gathered to protest the arrests. All Tibetan areas remain closed off to independent media, but eyewitness reports from all across Tibet describe horrific beatings, suicide attempts by monks locked inside their monasteries, house-to-house searches, and large groups of Tibetans being boarded onto trains at Lhasa’s new railway station. As the situation inside Tibet remains critical, several peaceful protests and actions are planned for tomorrow’s relay here in London.

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