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		<title>By: Knights</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/03/28/china-responses-to-the-dalai-lamas-appeal/comment-page-5/#comment-1446601</link>
		<dc:creator>Knights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 04:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IN DEED WE NEED FREE SPEECH, NOT FROM CHINA

-WE NEED FREE SPEECH TO EDUCATE THE WESTERNERS ABOUT CHINA’S PRESENT CONDITIONS (THERE’S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO, IF THE WESTERNERS CHOOSE TO BE BLIND AND DEAF, IT’S LIKE SINGING TO COWS.)
-WE NEED FREE SPEECH TO HAVE OUR VOICES HEARD BY CNN/BBC WESTERN BIASED MEDIAS AND GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACIES.
-WE NEED FREE SPEECH TO BE ABLE TO PRACTICE PATRIOTISM WITHOUT BEING CALLED NAMES LIKE CCP BRAINED-WASHED MACHINES, GOONS, THUGS, ETC
-WE NEED FREE SPEECH  FROM PEOPLE WHO ONLY ALLOWS FREE SPEECH TO CONSENTING VOICES ON THE DOUBLE-STANDARD DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM!

P.S. If you are NOT Chinese, and as long as you live, you will never ever understand what it means to have Chinese blood flowing in your body from a 5000+ years old civilization!!!!  Patriotism and Unity are more important than individual’s will.   If we have to choose between One UNITED CHINA and other options, we will choose UNITY, no ifs, no buts!

You can reincarnate (Buddhist believes in reincarnation) next life time to experience being Chinese.  If you are from very few Chinese traitor group who do not appreciate being Chinese, you are welcome to dream about reincarnating to whatever you wish!   

Westerners, you do NOT need to feel threatened, we only want what has belonged to China for hundreds and thousands of years stay intact.  We are not invading any countries like U.S.A invaded Iraq this millennium!  We do not want to be like greedy U.S.A, Canada, France, Germany, Brittain, Australia et al trying to stir trouble, and split up other countries.  We just ask to be left alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  We will handle our internal affairs!!!!!
YOU ARE JUST HUMAN, YOU ARE NOT GOD, GOD YOU ARE NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IN DEED WE NEED FREE SPEECH, NOT FROM CHINA</p>
<p>-WE NEED FREE SPEECH TO EDUCATE THE WESTERNERS ABOUT CHINA’S PRESENT CONDITIONS (THERE’S ONLY SO MUCH WE CAN DO, IF THE WESTERNERS CHOOSE TO BE BLIND AND DEAF, IT’S LIKE SINGING TO COWS.)<br />
-WE NEED FREE SPEECH TO HAVE OUR VOICES HEARD BY CNN/BBC WESTERN BIASED MEDIAS AND GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACIES.<br />
-WE NEED FREE SPEECH TO BE ABLE TO PRACTICE PATRIOTISM WITHOUT BEING CALLED NAMES LIKE CCP BRAINED-WASHED MACHINES, GOONS, THUGS, ETC<br />
-WE NEED FREE SPEECH  FROM PEOPLE WHO ONLY ALLOWS FREE SPEECH TO CONSENTING VOICES ON THE DOUBLE-STANDARD DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM!</p>
<p>P.S. If you are NOT Chinese, and as long as you live, you will never ever understand what it means to have Chinese blood flowing in your body from a 5000+ years old civilization!!!!  Patriotism and Unity are more important than individual’s will.   If we have to choose between One UNITED CHINA and other options, we will choose UNITY, no ifs, no buts!</p>
<p>You can reincarnate (Buddhist believes in reincarnation) next life time to experience being Chinese.  If you are from very few Chinese traitor group who do not appreciate being Chinese, you are welcome to dream about reincarnating to whatever you wish!   </p>
<p>Westerners, you do NOT need to feel threatened, we only want what has belonged to China for hundreds and thousands of years stay intact.  We are not invading any countries like U.S.A invaded Iraq this millennium!  We do not want to be like greedy U.S.A, Canada, France, Germany, Brittain, Australia et al trying to stir trouble, and split up other countries.  We just ask to be left alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  We will handle our internal affairs!!!!!<br />
YOU ARE JUST HUMAN, YOU ARE NOT GOD, GOD YOU ARE NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION!</p>
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		<title>By: Knights</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/03/28/china-responses-to-the-dalai-lamas-appeal/comment-page-5/#comment-1446483</link>
		<dc:creator>Knights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 00:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Knights
This is fun!
CNN = 
Conspiracy News Network
Corrupted News Network
Creepy News Network
Controlling Narrow-minded News
Campaign Negative News
Consumer Negligence Network
Chinese Negative news
Confused Nonsense News 
Contributing Negligence News
Confined Nazi Network

BBC = Biased Based company
Belligerent Based Campaign
Bad Bully/Bullshit Corp
Bad Behavior Company
Bribery Bait Corp
Barbarian Base Camp

From Mutapha
CNN =
Cafferty’s Nude Network
Cheap News Network
Credibility Non-existent Network
Caterpillar News Network
Cockroach News network
Coe Nazi Network
BBC =
Baby Brains Corporation
Baby Bullshit Corporation
Bird Brained Corporation
Bigger Bluffs Company
Better Bluffs Corporation
Bye Bye corporation
Put them in bed together, it is Credibility Non-existent Network Bye Bye Corporation



1.	from Maja: 
The root of the problem is: the West Had the most media control (so they blame on China media control ?) and knowledge coverage. But the catch is: They all see from their point of view, and not the actual, true point.How many of them actually SEE China (and other parts of the world as well)? So what they see is what they get, particularly from Bab Biased Coverage (BBC) and Crooked News Network (CNN)
So this medias will bring their followers into black tunnels and say, well there is no light.
Also the Indians should know that they have some long, historic wisdom. but they are using Western languages for knowledge acquiring, since their old languages are no more relevant. So they only follow what the West say. What a regret and shame, like an old man lead by a mischievous kid.
2.	May 2nd, 2008 at 15:55 pm 
fromMaja
If the Western Medias truly want to do justice to the world, just pay more attention to the damage they had done to the world: wars, slavery, colonization, wealth robbery, civilization destruction, indirect government control, pollution etc, etc…
The West is actually a Great Sinner if you see the bigger picture. They did the sin and tell others not to do it. They shut their BIG sins and magnify others’ small mistakes.
All we can do is to open our eyes and mind-see beyond what they present.
3.	May 2nd, 2008 at 17:55 pm 
From mustapha: 
Interesting that you mentioned Sudan. The hypocrisy there is precious oil. Sudan has good political and economic relations with China for very long time. So part of the economic relations involved oil exploration and exploitation joint ventures with Chinese oil companies which Sudan is rich in oil deposits. 
Is the Sudanese Government going to resile on their agreement with Chinese on these oil production sharing agreement after decades of friendships? The answer is no. That means US and European oil companies got locked out of these opportunities. So how to get in? The old game called “divide and conquer”. Mia Farrow and the likes of her has an agenda to dislodge China’s economic interest in Sudan. Her position is that China’s has “strong economic ties” with Sudan (careful not to mention oil of course) and should use this economic relations to lever or arm-twist the Sudanese Government in Dafur. If China acted on her demand compliance, it will break economic ties with Sudan and risks all its economic relations in Africa. The US companies and European business will move in to exploit the gap. 
Darfur is just a hypocritical front of human rights used by western powers to rule China, Sudan and Africa. Why do you think George Bush Jnr went to visit Africa this year? It is economic resources they are after. If the West really care for Dafur or anytime in their miserable history of tribal killings and ethnic cleansing in Africa, the West could easily achieve “democracy” and “human rights” thing the way they did by military intervention in Iraq and former Yugoslavia ( so quick after the death of President Tito). 
What is to stopped them from air-drop tens of thousands of paratroops and secure the place, then provide food, medical and health care for the last 10 years and maybe hold elections for those refugees as well to give them “freedom”? They won’t because such an adventure costs Uncle Sam money and loss of international respect. The place where the refugees are living in tents are near Sudan’s border with Chad HAS GOT NO OIL. So why goes to war unlike Iraq. So the only way to takeover the oil interest is to destroy the Sudanese Government and they want China to wield the butcher knife for them. So they can go in later and exploit Sudan and claims that their hands are not blood-stained.
They want China to fight its friends in Africa and they go in like we are great saviors. is this not obvious to the informed mind? Did Mia Farrow and US Governments really care for African people? I says that is a load of excrement again of public theatre just like Hollywood always been. 
If you know real history, when Nelson Mandela overthrown the Aparthied regime of De Klerk, did the fatherly Uncle Sam came along with their big bags of money and technical assistance to resuscitate that improverished nation? Mandela visited US with a begging bowl mentality, he came home with nothing. Mandela also visited Japan, asked for financial help from Japanese Government ( remember in the Aparthied regime of De Klerk, the Japanese people there are treated as preferential “whites” and the Chinese as “black” ), he got also nothing. Finally, Mandela begged for some money to pay for his air fare expense, he got also nothing from the Japanese Government. Some Japanese business with South African business interest gave Mandela the air-fare. How funny is human rights, you wondered?
The West championed for human rights and democracy, you certainly got democracy in Venezuela, why is it the Uncle Sam is politically at war with the Venezeula Government now? It is because this Government refused to kow tow to US foreign policy of demand complaince and not repecting another society rights to decide how they want to live and relate to the rest of the world!! Human rights and democracy?? Another 2 buckets of bullshits.
Of course, Uncle Sam loves India - very democratic since its independence in 1947. China became united after its civil war in 1951. For next 25 years, China chose self-isolation and ignored the West. Did India make any progress in that 25 years of head start with help from democracy loving USA, Europe or Australia? 
It was a damm hard struggle, economically, in India - Did Uncle Sam, Great Britain ( its former colonial ruler) came round with buckets of money and technical assistance? None!!!. India can struggle with poverty, misery and mass hunger on its own. Maybe, the West does not know how to spell the words “human rights” then.
Britain partitioned the sub-continent into East Pakistan ( now Blangadesh) West Pakistan and India leaving them to fight over Kashmir. Since both Pakistan and India had parliamentary democracy, the Western power let them fight wars - never mind the killings and destructions harming human rights needs for food, shelter and safety. 
And Guess what happened after 25 years since India’s independence? China opened up. Its economy booming now. India suddenly woke up and thinking they could catch up but I don’t think so. Why? 
India followed the British model of parliamentary democracy - every big decision is consultative, deliberative, negotiate and bribery of powerful political vest interest and if they cannot agree, nothing moves. In China, it is the opposite. The West would called tough political and economic decisions taken as ” no human rights” and “no democracy” and “no freedom of choice”. Chinese Government follow the Singapore model - if it is good for the country, just do it, the benefits will come later FOR ALL PEOPLE TO ENJOY. Chinese government will clear slums, farmland, demolished suburbs etc and build fantastic infrastructures of airport, road, railway, bridges etc. And what happened? 
Foreign businesses saw it - wow, everythign works, power utilities, transport and communication - first-world standards just like Singapore, faster move in with big investments and make money on cheap Chinese labour before the Japanese move in!!! China economic boom!! and still is booming. 
In India, big contrast. Ask any businessman who travelled to China and India now. They will tell you the big difference. You can visit and sit on a cab for 2 hours in Mumbai (big commercial capital of India almost) for a short distance., frustrated, in the traffic jam, narrow road, slums everywhere, beggars, no development of infrastructure, how to do business?? 
Of course the West happy, no competition to their industries unlike China!!! Democracy in India is good for the West - it hinders India rapid economic development and condemn its masses of popluation to grinding poverty for another century. In China, US businesses makes lots of money, but we better oppress them NOW with human rights bullshit and exploit their cheap labour while we can. 
And don’t let them develop any further - IT IS DANGEROUS!!! What BETTER WAY to destroy China than by sowing seeds of internal dissent of human rights, let them fight among themselves like Yogoslavia and we walk in to own salves again like the 18 century?. Deja vu!! (Like we see it before)
As for why USA dropped atom bomb on Japan, not Germany. Well, Germany, ALREADY DEFEATED, is contested ground with Russians. The new enemy is soviet communism - remember the Berlin War that came after WW2. Secondly, Japan brought the 2nd WW right up to American doorstep - Pearl Harbour. So it is nice revenge and a life-long warning, don’t touch us again!!!. Remember General MacArthur said in Philippines, I will be back! And he was replaced by President Harry Truman during the Korean War after planning to drop the atom bomb on China during the Korean War as well. MacArthur is a war monger who loves war, not human rights. Final reason is US chose its enemy to strike brutally.
You see the same mentality in Yugoslavia. The US with its precision technology bombed Chinese embassy -which is really China territory in Yugoslavia. No other country’s embassy got bombed. I believe a hidden message in there. We divide and destroy Tito’s Yugoslavia, you will be next unless you comply with our demand for compliance. 
You see that in Afghanistan - Taleban was friend of George Bush Snr and an enemy of George Bush Jnr. US backed Saddam Hussien against Iran and turned against Saddam Hussein for Kuwaiti oil and Iraqi oil at the same time. Saudi Arabia is a monarchy, not a democracy, why no human rights and democracy push there? 
Very simple, they pumped more oil to help USA when oil price rise too high. It is oil politics, human rights and democracy is just excrements to throw against those who will not “kow tow” to US and European powers.
This is real politik, human rights is just bullshit and CNN and western media is just part of that organised orchestrated action and “weapon of mass destruction” to regain imperialism and colonialism.
Stay tune</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Knights<br />
This is fun!<br />
CNN =<br />
Conspiracy News Network<br />
Corrupted News Network<br />
Creepy News Network<br />
Controlling Narrow-minded News<br />
Campaign Negative News<br />
Consumer Negligence Network<br />
Chinese Negative news<br />
Confused Nonsense News<br />
Contributing Negligence News<br />
Confined Nazi Network</p>
<p>BBC = Biased Based company<br />
Belligerent Based Campaign<br />
Bad Bully/Bullshit Corp<br />
Bad Behavior Company<br />
Bribery Bait Corp<br />
Barbarian Base Camp</p>
<p>From Mutapha<br />
CNN =<br />
Cafferty’s Nude Network<br />
Cheap News Network<br />
Credibility Non-existent Network<br />
Caterpillar News Network<br />
Cockroach News network<br />
Coe Nazi Network<br />
BBC =<br />
Baby Brains Corporation<br />
Baby Bullshit Corporation<br />
Bird Brained Corporation<br />
Bigger Bluffs Company<br />
Better Bluffs Corporation<br />
Bye Bye corporation<br />
Put them in bed together, it is Credibility Non-existent Network Bye Bye Corporation</p>
<p>1.	from Maja:<br />
The root of the problem is: the West Had the most media control (so they blame on China media control ?) and knowledge coverage. But the catch is: They all see from their point of view, and not the actual, true point.How many of them actually SEE China (and other parts of the world as well)? So what they see is what they get, particularly from Bab Biased Coverage (BBC) and Crooked News Network (CNN)<br />
So this medias will bring their followers into black tunnels and say, well there is no light.<br />
Also the Indians should know that they have some long, historic wisdom. but they are using Western languages for knowledge acquiring, since their old languages are no more relevant. So they only follow what the West say. What a regret and shame, like an old man lead by a mischievous kid.<br />
2.	May 2nd, 2008 at 15:55 pm<br />
fromMaja<br />
If the Western Medias truly want to do justice to the world, just pay more attention to the damage they had done to the world: wars, slavery, colonization, wealth robbery, civilization destruction, indirect government control, pollution etc, etc…<br />
The West is actually a Great Sinner if you see the bigger picture. They did the sin and tell others not to do it. They shut their BIG sins and magnify others’ small mistakes.<br />
All we can do is to open our eyes and mind-see beyond what they present.<br />
3.	May 2nd, 2008 at 17:55 pm<br />
From mustapha:<br />
Interesting that you mentioned Sudan. The hypocrisy there is precious oil. Sudan has good political and economic relations with China for very long time. So part of the economic relations involved oil exploration and exploitation joint ventures with Chinese oil companies which Sudan is rich in oil deposits.<br />
Is the Sudanese Government going to resile on their agreement with Chinese on these oil production sharing agreement after decades of friendships? The answer is no. That means US and European oil companies got locked out of these opportunities. So how to get in? The old game called “divide and conquer”. Mia Farrow and the likes of her has an agenda to dislodge China’s economic interest in Sudan. Her position is that China’s has “strong economic ties” with Sudan (careful not to mention oil of course) and should use this economic relations to lever or arm-twist the Sudanese Government in Dafur. If China acted on her demand compliance, it will break economic ties with Sudan and risks all its economic relations in Africa. The US companies and European business will move in to exploit the gap.<br />
Darfur is just a hypocritical front of human rights used by western powers to rule China, Sudan and Africa. Why do you think George Bush Jnr went to visit Africa this year? It is economic resources they are after. If the West really care for Dafur or anytime in their miserable history of tribal killings and ethnic cleansing in Africa, the West could easily achieve “democracy” and “human rights” thing the way they did by military intervention in Iraq and former Yugoslavia ( so quick after the death of President Tito).<br />
What is to stopped them from air-drop tens of thousands of paratroops and secure the place, then provide food, medical and health care for the last 10 years and maybe hold elections for those refugees as well to give them “freedom”? They won’t because such an adventure costs Uncle Sam money and loss of international respect. The place where the refugees are living in tents are near Sudan’s border with Chad HAS GOT NO OIL. So why goes to war unlike Iraq. So the only way to takeover the oil interest is to destroy the Sudanese Government and they want China to wield the butcher knife for them. So they can go in later and exploit Sudan and claims that their hands are not blood-stained.<br />
They want China to fight its friends in Africa and they go in like we are great saviors. is this not obvious to the informed mind? Did Mia Farrow and US Governments really care for African people? I says that is a load of excrement again of public theatre just like Hollywood always been.<br />
If you know real history, when Nelson Mandela overthrown the Aparthied regime of De Klerk, did the fatherly Uncle Sam came along with their big bags of money and technical assistance to resuscitate that improverished nation? Mandela visited US with a begging bowl mentality, he came home with nothing. Mandela also visited Japan, asked for financial help from Japanese Government ( remember in the Aparthied regime of De Klerk, the Japanese people there are treated as preferential “whites” and the Chinese as “black” ), he got also nothing. Finally, Mandela begged for some money to pay for his air fare expense, he got also nothing from the Japanese Government. Some Japanese business with South African business interest gave Mandela the air-fare. How funny is human rights, you wondered?<br />
The West championed for human rights and democracy, you certainly got democracy in Venezuela, why is it the Uncle Sam is politically at war with the Venezeula Government now? It is because this Government refused to kow tow to US foreign policy of demand complaince and not repecting another society rights to decide how they want to live and relate to the rest of the world!! Human rights and democracy?? Another 2 buckets of bullshits.<br />
Of course, Uncle Sam loves India &#8211; very democratic since its independence in 1947. China became united after its civil war in 1951. For next 25 years, China chose self-isolation and ignored the West. Did India make any progress in that 25 years of head start with help from democracy loving USA, Europe or Australia?<br />
It was a damm hard struggle, economically, in India &#8211; Did Uncle Sam, Great Britain ( its former colonial ruler) came round with buckets of money and technical assistance? None!!!. India can struggle with poverty, misery and mass hunger on its own. Maybe, the West does not know how to spell the words “human rights” then.<br />
Britain partitioned the sub-continent into East Pakistan ( now Blangadesh) West Pakistan and India leaving them to fight over Kashmir. Since both Pakistan and India had parliamentary democracy, the Western power let them fight wars &#8211; never mind the killings and destructions harming human rights needs for food, shelter and safety.<br />
And Guess what happened after 25 years since India’s independence? China opened up. Its economy booming now. India suddenly woke up and thinking they could catch up but I don’t think so. Why?<br />
India followed the British model of parliamentary democracy &#8211; every big decision is consultative, deliberative, negotiate and bribery of powerful political vest interest and if they cannot agree, nothing moves. In China, it is the opposite. The West would called tough political and economic decisions taken as ” no human rights” and “no democracy” and “no freedom of choice”. Chinese Government follow the Singapore model &#8211; if it is good for the country, just do it, the benefits will come later FOR ALL PEOPLE TO ENJOY. Chinese government will clear slums, farmland, demolished suburbs etc and build fantastic infrastructures of airport, road, railway, bridges etc. And what happened?<br />
Foreign businesses saw it &#8211; wow, everythign works, power utilities, transport and communication &#8211; first-world standards just like Singapore, faster move in with big investments and make money on cheap Chinese labour before the Japanese move in!!! China economic boom!! and still is booming.<br />
In India, big contrast. Ask any businessman who travelled to China and India now. They will tell you the big difference. You can visit and sit on a cab for 2 hours in Mumbai (big commercial capital of India almost) for a short distance., frustrated, in the traffic jam, narrow road, slums everywhere, beggars, no development of infrastructure, how to do business??<br />
Of course the West happy, no competition to their industries unlike China!!! Democracy in India is good for the West &#8211; it hinders India rapid economic development and condemn its masses of popluation to grinding poverty for another century. In China, US businesses makes lots of money, but we better oppress them NOW with human rights bullshit and exploit their cheap labour while we can.<br />
And don’t let them develop any further &#8211; IT IS DANGEROUS!!! What BETTER WAY to destroy China than by sowing seeds of internal dissent of human rights, let them fight among themselves like Yogoslavia and we walk in to own salves again like the 18 century?. Deja vu!! (Like we see it before)<br />
As for why USA dropped atom bomb on Japan, not Germany. Well, Germany, ALREADY DEFEATED, is contested ground with Russians. The new enemy is soviet communism &#8211; remember the Berlin War that came after WW2. Secondly, Japan brought the 2nd WW right up to American doorstep &#8211; Pearl Harbour. So it is nice revenge and a life-long warning, don’t touch us again!!!. Remember General MacArthur said in Philippines, I will be back! And he was replaced by President Harry Truman during the Korean War after planning to drop the atom bomb on China during the Korean War as well. MacArthur is a war monger who loves war, not human rights. Final reason is US chose its enemy to strike brutally.<br />
You see the same mentality in Yugoslavia. The US with its precision technology bombed Chinese embassy -which is really China territory in Yugoslavia. No other country’s embassy got bombed. I believe a hidden message in there. We divide and destroy Tito’s Yugoslavia, you will be next unless you comply with our demand for compliance.<br />
You see that in Afghanistan &#8211; Taleban was friend of George Bush Snr and an enemy of George Bush Jnr. US backed Saddam Hussien against Iran and turned against Saddam Hussein for Kuwaiti oil and Iraqi oil at the same time. Saudi Arabia is a monarchy, not a democracy, why no human rights and democracy push there?<br />
Very simple, they pumped more oil to help USA when oil price rise too high. It is oil politics, human rights and democracy is just excrements to throw against those who will not “kow tow” to US and European powers.<br />
This is real politik, human rights is just bullshit and CNN and western media is just part of that organised orchestrated action and “weapon of mass destruction” to regain imperialism and colonialism.<br />
Stay tune</p>
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		<title>By: eugene</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/03/28/china-responses-to-the-dalai-lamas-appeal/comment-page-5/#comment-1446242</link>
		<dc:creator>eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 19:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>urchinese freind; stop using the term &quot;you and your ilk&quot; the same term can be used to refer to you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>urchinese freind; stop using the term &#8220;you and your ilk&#8221; the same term can be used to refer to you</p>
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		<title>By: ur chinese friend</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/03/28/china-responses-to-the-dalai-lamas-appeal/comment-page-5/#comment-1425699</link>
		<dc:creator>ur chinese friend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pazu,

  In post #39 you tried to discredit anti-cnn site by arguing that 1)Chinese themselves cannot even search &quot;dalai lama&quot;, in your own words and 2)Why don&#039;t anti-CNN folks make anti-CCTV.  

  My point was to shoot down your arguments as plain stupid, which covered majority of the words in my post #42.  You on the other hand, seem want to get into a piss contest about who knows more about proxies and the Chinese internet firewall.  Ironically, it&#039;s people like you and those who defend the biased Tibetan coverage who have successfully driven more Chinese people into a patriotic/nationalistic rage which you condemn.  IMO you guys have set back the democratic movement in China by at least 5 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pazu,</p>
<p>  In post #39 you tried to discredit anti-cnn site by arguing that 1)Chinese themselves cannot even search &#8220;dalai lama&#8221;, in your own words and 2)Why don&#8217;t anti-CNN folks make anti-CCTV.  </p>
<p>  My point was to shoot down your arguments as plain stupid, which covered majority of the words in my post #42.  You on the other hand, seem want to get into a piss contest about who knows more about proxies and the Chinese internet firewall.  Ironically, it&#8217;s people like you and those who defend the biased Tibetan coverage who have successfully driven more Chinese people into a patriotic/nationalistic rage which you condemn.  IMO you guys have set back the democratic movement in China by at least 5 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Pazu</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/03/28/china-responses-to-the-dalai-lamas-appeal/comment-page-5/#comment-1425276</link>
		<dc:creator>Pazu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 06:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#40 said, &quot;you are the one that have an emty heart, that’s why you are even on this page. If you don’t respect this blog, GET OUT!!!!!&quot;


You are actually on this page too so you have an empty heart? 

What do you want to prove? 

Your education didn&#039;t teach you how to think critically. 

You brought shame to the Chinese community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#40 said, &#8220;you are the one that have an emty heart, that’s why you are even on this page. If you don’t respect this blog, GET OUT!!!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>You are actually on this page too so you have an empty heart? </p>
<p>What do you want to prove? </p>
<p>Your education didn&#8217;t teach you how to think critically. </p>
<p>You brought shame to the Chinese community.</p>
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		<title>By: Pazu</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/03/28/china-responses-to-the-dalai-lamas-appeal/comment-page-5/#comment-1425274</link>
		<dc:creator>Pazu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 06:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#42, Most people in China couldn&#039;t even come to this page because it was blocked in China by the Golden Shield firewall, because of the &quot;keywords&quot; filter, you can&#039;t even write some sensitive article in Tianya Forums. Even if you have proxies, your posts or even your login account would be banned, perhaps the police would come and give you some trouble. 

There was a true story, a personal account of my friend, she sent a picture of the protests of coal workers through QQ, just for fun, well, not really like exposing the dark side of the China, and she claimed she was also patriotic. But it doesn&#039;t matter, her home was visited by some police after less than an hour!

What sort of proxies are you using? Wujie Ultrasurf? TOR? Or some sorts of web anonymizer? If you truly believe that you have freedom on the internet with the proxies, you don&#039;t understand China and the system. They can still track your IP through Java or Flash etc, these are not really safe. 

Also, proxies are godsend but most of my friends didn&#039;t know anything about proxies. 

I think it&#039;s just meaningless to argue this fact, are you going to prove that the Chinese internet policy is very open? It&#039;s simply ridiculously hilarious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#42, Most people in China couldn&#8217;t even come to this page because it was blocked in China by the Golden Shield firewall, because of the &#8220;keywords&#8221; filter, you can&#8217;t even write some sensitive article in Tianya Forums. Even if you have proxies, your posts or even your login account would be banned, perhaps the police would come and give you some trouble. </p>
<p>There was a true story, a personal account of my friend, she sent a picture of the protests of coal workers through QQ, just for fun, well, not really like exposing the dark side of the China, and she claimed she was also patriotic. But it doesn&#8217;t matter, her home was visited by some police after less than an hour!</p>
<p>What sort of proxies are you using? Wujie Ultrasurf? TOR? Or some sorts of web anonymizer? If you truly believe that you have freedom on the internet with the proxies, you don&#8217;t understand China and the system. They can still track your IP through Java or Flash etc, these are not really safe. </p>
<p>Also, proxies are godsend but most of my friends didn&#8217;t know anything about proxies. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s just meaningless to argue this fact, are you going to prove that the Chinese internet policy is very open? It&#8217;s simply ridiculously hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: ur chinese friend</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/03/28/china-responses-to-the-dalai-lamas-appeal/comment-page-5/#comment-1424830</link>
		<dc:creator>ur chinese friend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pazu, what you and your ilk don&#039;t seem to understand is that anti-cnn site never claims to be unbiased and it&#039;s whole purpose is to point out that the Western Media is biased.  Other than the &quot;anti-cnn&#039;s analysis blows things out of proportion&quot; type of remarks I don&#039;t find many people to actually challenge the findings on that site.  Do you always like to shoot the messenger when you can&#039;t win by reasoning?

BTW, Just because you don&#039;t know much about internet proxies doesn&#039;t mean that others don&#039;t as well.  If Chinese people cannot get access to foreign media about Tibet, how the hell did they gather evidence to create anti-cnn?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pazu, what you and your ilk don&#8217;t seem to understand is that anti-cnn site never claims to be unbiased and it&#8217;s whole purpose is to point out that the Western Media is biased.  Other than the &#8220;anti-cnn&#8217;s analysis blows things out of proportion&#8221; type of remarks I don&#8217;t find many people to actually challenge the findings on that site.  Do you always like to shoot the messenger when you can&#8217;t win by reasoning?</p>
<p>BTW, Just because you don&#8217;t know much about internet proxies doesn&#8217;t mean that others don&#8217;t as well.  If Chinese people cannot get access to foreign media about Tibet, how the hell did they gather evidence to create anti-cnn?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill  - Chinese in U.S.A</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/03/28/china-responses-to-the-dalai-lamas-appeal/comment-page-5/#comment-1424727</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill  - Chinese in U.S.A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To pazu, we certainly do NOT need your approval to be Chinese patriots!!!!  Get a life and get lost!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To pazu, we certainly do NOT need your approval to be Chinese patriots!!!!  Get a life and get lost!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill  - U.S.A</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/03/28/china-responses-to-the-dalai-lamas-appeal/comment-page-5/#comment-1424726</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill  - U.S.A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 19:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Pazu,

I do not know what you are, perhaps hiding from some personal grievences.    
We are patriotics, and you are the one that have an emty heart, that&#039;s why you are even on this page.  If you don&#039;t respect this blog, GET OUT!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Pazu,</p>
<p>I do not know what you are, perhaps hiding from some personal grievences.<br />
We are patriotics, and you are the one that have an emty heart, that&#8217;s why you are even on this page.  If you don&#8217;t respect this blog, GET OUT!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; China: Chinese protest in London you never see on BBC</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/03/28/china-responses-to-the-dalai-lamas-appeal/comment-page-4/#comment-1424028</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; China: Chinese protest in London you never see on BBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 20:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thread: the large protest from the London Chinese community right near 10 Downing Street wasn&#039;t covered today by the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] thread: the large protest from the London Chinese community right near 10 Downing Street wasn&#39;t covered today by the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pazu</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/03/28/china-responses-to-the-dalai-lamas-appeal/comment-page-4/#comment-1423404</link>
		<dc:creator>Pazu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 05:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CNN is fake and unreliable, at least Americans in the States can still go to www.Anti-CNN.com and understand what the Chinese think about the western media.

And how about your poor fellows in China? They can&#039;t even go to Wikipedia.org, search &quot;dalai lama&quot; and the internet connection will be disconnected for 10 seconds. 

There&#039;s a Chinese saying 五十步笑百步, and now it&#039;s your turn to 百步笑五十步。

When you accused the western media being biased, why don&#039;t you have the gut to tell CCTV to shut down their news? When you hear Wang Ning 王宁 saying so much stuff about &quot;Weida de dang&quot; (Greatest Party), don&#039;t you feel ashamed?

The real Chinese way of thinking used to be 责人以严，待己以宽, and you guys at Anti-CNN.com is doing it in the non-Chinese way. You guys aren&#039;t really patriotic, you are just nationalistic fools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CNN is fake and unreliable, at least Americans in the States can still go to <a href="http://www.Anti-CNN.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.Anti-CNN.com</a> and understand what the Chinese think about the western media.</p>
<p>And how about your poor fellows in China? They can&#8217;t even go to Wikipedia.org, search &#8220;dalai lama&#8221; and the internet connection will be disconnected for 10 seconds. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a Chinese saying 五十步笑百步, and now it&#8217;s your turn to 百步笑五十步。</p>
<p>When you accused the western media being biased, why don&#8217;t you have the gut to tell CCTV to shut down their news? When you hear Wang Ning 王宁 saying so much stuff about &#8220;Weida de dang&#8221; (Greatest Party), don&#8217;t you feel ashamed?</p>
<p>The real Chinese way of thinking used to be 责人以严，待己以宽, and you guys at Anti-CNN.com is doing it in the non-Chinese way. You guys aren&#8217;t really patriotic, you are just nationalistic fools.</p>
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		<title>By: baker</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/03/28/china-responses-to-the-dalai-lamas-appeal/comment-page-4/#comment-1422942</link>
		<dc:creator>baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 16:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to all CNN audience:
do not trust media absolutely, CNN is an example, fake, unture,and cheating.
the world is colourful and complicated. use your head, listen the different voice, then draw your condition.orelse, it just shows you r not mature, too young !!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to all CNN audience:<br />
do not trust media absolutely, CNN is an example, fake, unture,and cheating.<br />
the world is colourful and complicated. use your head, listen the different voice, then draw your condition.orelse, it just shows you r not mature, too young !!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: baker</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/03/28/china-responses-to-the-dalai-lamas-appeal/comment-page-4/#comment-1422939</link>
		<dc:creator>baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 16:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dalai Lama  is Chinese Ben Laden althrough he deny himself Chinese.the only difference is that Ben Laden&#039;s target is western people, but Dalai Lama&#039;s targer is the people from his country.
Dalai Lama is the head of the Tibet terrorist . he should be captured immediately as Benladen.
who respect Dalai Lama as a god is idiot. he is politician, terrist and killing inciting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dalai Lama  is Chinese Ben Laden althrough he deny himself Chinese.the only difference is that Ben Laden&#8217;s target is western people, but Dalai Lama&#8217;s targer is the people from his country.<br />
Dalai Lama is the head of the Tibet terrorist . he should be captured immediately as Benladen.<br />
who respect Dalai Lama as a god is idiot. he is politician, terrist and killing inciting.</p>
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		<title>By: ugyen</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/03/28/china-responses-to-the-dalai-lamas-appeal/comment-page-4/#comment-1422937</link>
		<dc:creator>ugyen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 16:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whole world knows the issues about china&#039;s violation of human rights. the main objective of the Tibetan people is to have autonomous government, not independent. they never used any form of weapon during their protest, so we find no reason for the Chinese police opening fire against monks. All we need is peace and it can be resolve only if Chinese government take more humane decision.
      i in my own small ways express my deep solitude over the Tibetan tragedy. i mournfully offer my prayers to those who lost their lives in the recent tragedy. 
   MAY PEACE PREVAIL ON EARTH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whole world knows the issues about china&#8217;s violation of human rights. the main objective of the Tibetan people is to have autonomous government, not independent. they never used any form of weapon during their protest, so we find no reason for the Chinese police opening fire against monks. All we need is peace and it can be resolve only if Chinese government take more humane decision.<br />
      i in my own small ways express my deep solitude over the Tibetan tragedy. i mournfully offer my prayers to those who lost their lives in the recent tragedy.<br />
   MAY PEACE PREVAIL ON EARTH.</p>
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		<title>By: ur chinese friend</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/03/28/china-responses-to-the-dalai-lamas-appeal/comment-page-4/#comment-1421180</link>
		<dc:creator>ur chinese friend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The second anti-CNN manages to reconcile the fact that there is even much more dire need for an “anti-Xinhua” or “anti-CCTV”, then I and a whole lot of other people might just begin taking their whole idea seriously.&quot;

Ha.  I think you should definitely start up such a site, and you will be able to prove.. what the whole world already know: Chinese government controlled media is biased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The second anti-CNN manages to reconcile the fact that there is even much more dire need for an “anti-Xinhua” or “anti-CCTV”, then I and a whole lot of other people might just begin taking their whole idea seriously.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ha.  I think you should definitely start up such a site, and you will be able to prove.. what the whole world already know: Chinese government controlled media is biased.</p>
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