Comments on: Serbia: Anger, disbelief over proclamation of Kosovo independence http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/ The world is talking. Are you listening? Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:02:55 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Robert http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/comment-page-2/#comment-1524578 Robert Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:23:50 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/#comment-1524578 I found this blog trying to learn the history of Serbia. I live in the US and never trust the media here. It is difficult to separate the truth from the personal opinions. Where does one go online to find the true history about Serbia and the area? What really happened? and Why? Are these age old unanswerable questions or are these answerable with facts? I am overwhelmed and under educated about the struggle and conflict in Serbia over the years Thank you to those who have contributed to this blog. It helps me see many different perspectives. I found this blog trying to learn the history of Serbia. I live in the US and never trust the media here. It is difficult to separate the truth from the personal opinions. Where does one go online to find the true history about Serbia and the area? What really happened? and Why? Are these age old unanswerable questions or are these answerable with facts?
I am overwhelmed and under educated about the struggle and conflict in Serbia over the years
Thank you to those who have contributed to this blog. It helps me see many different perspectives.

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Blogger of the Week: Ljubisa Bojic http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/comment-page-2/#comment-1469524 Global Voices Online » Blogger of the Week: Ljubisa Bojic Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:44:46 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/#comment-1469524 [...] his almost two years with Global Voices Ljubiša has written mostly about Serbian politics, such as Kosovo's of independence or last january's presidential elections. But he has also introduced blogs from his home town [...] [...] his almost two years with Global Voices Ljubiša has written mostly about Serbian politics, such as Kosovo's of independence or last january's presidential elections. But he has also introduced blogs from his home town [...]

]]> By: Markus http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/comment-page-2/#comment-1463602 Markus Fri, 30 May 2008 09:05:50 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/#comment-1463602 here some proof by the german television... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9022337190221762301 here some proof by the german television…

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9022337190221762301

]]> By: Kosovar http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/comment-page-1/#comment-1463546 Kosovar Fri, 30 May 2008 06:33:20 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/#comment-1463546 It's so sad, when I read through these lines and I see that people are commenting on lot of different things about Kosovo, without any arguments at all. I'm from Kosovo and believe it or not more than anybody here I know the history of Kosovo and what Serbs did to the Albanians. I'm an Albanian and I'm going to explain what Serb Police did to us (my family). We established a computer company and started working, they came and took everything all of our equipment and money, because the reason was that they had some information that we were working against Serbian Government. That was not true at all; we were just selling computers and developing different software’s for the needs of other companies. Now, I was tired of this because on the top of that my father and I had to go to the Police station every week where each policeman that will come in would start beating on us, they didn't even now why we were there. That was something that I personally was tired of and believe me we did not enjoy, I repeat we did not enjoy freedom at all. We were scared to go to downtown and hang out late because “Crna Ruka” as they called it which is “The Black Hand” would continuously kidnap people and you will disappear forever. Making the long story short...now when I go to Kosovo I’m free thanks to the Western Countries that helped us. Even though I’ve been through all this, I would like to explain you what is my dream for the future: I hope that one day we will all be in EU and together with Serbs we would not even look what happened in the past. We would call our self’s European Citizens and Serbs would come and live in Pristina, or even I would go to live in Belgrade, because then it will all be European Union, just like the United States. It’s so sad, when I read through these lines and I see that people are commenting on lot of different things about Kosovo, without any arguments at all. I’m from Kosovo and believe it or not more than anybody here I know the history of Kosovo and what Serbs did to the Albanians. I’m an Albanian and I’m going to explain what Serb Police did to us (my family). We established a computer company and started working, they came and took everything all of our equipment and money, because the reason was that they had some information that we were working against Serbian Government. That was not true at all; we were just selling computers and developing different software’s for the needs of other companies. Now, I was tired of this because on the top of that my father and I had to go to the Police station every week where each policeman that will come in would start beating on us, they didn’t even now why we were there. That was something that I personally was tired of and believe me we did not enjoy, I repeat we did not enjoy freedom at all. We were scared to go to downtown and hang out late because “Crna Ruka” as they called it which is “The Black Hand” would continuously kidnap people and you will disappear forever. Making the long story short…now when I go to Kosovo I’m free thanks to the Western Countries that helped us. Even though I’ve been through all this, I would like to explain you what is my dream for the future: I hope that one day we will all be in EU and together with Serbs we would not even look what happened in the past. We would call our self’s European Citizens and Serbs would come and live in Pristina, or even I would go to live in Belgrade, because then it will all be European Union, just like the United States.

]]> By: CaillouVert http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/comment-page-1/#comment-1463368 CaillouVert Thu, 29 May 2008 22:25:57 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/#comment-1463368 Crimes were committed bith sides ! Don't forget to mention it ! Kosovo is Serbia ! Crimes were committed bith sides ! Don’t forget to mention it !
Kosovo is Serbia !

]]> By: berti http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/comment-page-1/#comment-1454540 berti Thu, 15 May 2008 21:29:29 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/#comment-1454540 ther is albanian in secili did this albanian ask for independenc ther is albanian in secili did this albanian ask for independenc

]]> By: Alan Jakšić http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/comment-page-1/#comment-1396593 Alan Jakšić Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:33:16 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/#comment-1396593 Ljubiša, it is easy to claim ethnic cleansing didn't happen somewhere if you weren't there! Then again, come to think about it, being at a specific place doesn't necessarily mean you will always know what's happening anyway! And of course, it's also easy to claim that someone else made something up. I'm not impressed by your comment, especially because you are a blogger for Global Voices Online. But then again Ljubiša, your sentiment is something I've encountered before in my life. Hey, even I used to be distrustful of the West and think it was all propaganda. But now I know that that's what Slobo, along with the populist Radicals, wanted us Serbs to think and still want us think. Ljubiša, it is easy to claim ethnic cleansing didn’t happen somewhere if you weren’t there! Then again, come to think about it, being at a specific place doesn’t necessarily mean you will always know what’s happening anyway! And of course, it’s also easy to claim that someone else made something up.

I’m not impressed by your comment, especially because you are a blogger for Global Voices Online. But then again Ljubiša, your sentiment is something I’ve encountered before in my life. Hey, even I used to be distrustful of the West and think it was all propaganda. But now I know that that’s what Slobo, along with the populist Radicals, wanted us Serbs to think and still want us think.

]]> By: Ljubisa Bojic http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/comment-page-1/#comment-1390710 Ljubisa Bojic Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:07:04 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/#comment-1390710 Mark, ethnic cleansing everyone is talking about never happened. Prosecutors made it up, as a reason to bomb Serbia. This was part of propaganda. Bombing itself triggered war crimes on both sides. Mark, ethnic cleansing everyone is talking about never happened. Prosecutors made it up, as a reason to bomb Serbia. This was part of propaganda. Bombing itself triggered war crimes on both sides.

]]> By: Mark http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/comment-page-1/#comment-1390259 Mark Fri, 22 Feb 2008 02:02:05 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/#comment-1390259 Serbia claims that Kosovo is the heart of Serbia. However, did Serbia not loose the moral authority when the engaged in ethnic cleansing of the Albanians? Isn’t Kosovo independence is equally justified as was Croatia’s, Bosnia’s or Macedonia’s? Serbia claims that Kosovo is the heart of Serbia. However, did Serbia not loose the moral authority when the engaged in ethnic cleansing of the Albanians? Isn’t Kosovo independence is equally justified as was Croatia’s, Bosnia’s or Macedonia’s?

]]> By: Sneza http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/comment-page-1/#comment-1390054 Sneza Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:26:00 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/#comment-1390054 Guys, if you want to feel "independence" please go to your country (ALBANIA) and feel it there,and don´t spread yourself over ours. This artificial KOSOVARS are something you created - but it´s not existing. There are Albanians and there are Serbs. That´s it.... How funny you talking about nationalist serbian bloggers. Terrorized for 100 years? What about times of Tito?? PLEASE!!! You had the widest autonomy ever, you could speak your language, you had schools in your language, you had an YU passport, but always considered yourself not YU, but Albanian. Then please, got to Albania!!!!!! I don´t say there hasn´t been violation against Albanian people, but what about the other way round? What is UCK f.e.? What about Albanian guys drawing a serb sign on the door of my house (like the Germans did with the Jews f.e.)? What about people taking a part of a foreign country, isn´t that nationalsim at it´s best? Thanks, Sneza Guys, if you want to feel “independence” please go to your country (ALBANIA) and feel it there,and don´t spread yourself over ours. This artificial KOSOVARS are something you created – but it´s not existing. There are Albanians and there are Serbs. That´s it….
How funny you talking about nationalist serbian bloggers. Terrorized for 100 years? What about times of Tito?? PLEASE!!! You had the widest autonomy ever, you could speak your language, you had schools in your language, you had an YU passport, but always considered yourself not YU, but Albanian. Then please, got to Albania!!!!!!
I don´t say there hasn´t been violation against Albanian people, but what about the other way round?
What is UCK f.e.? What about Albanian guys drawing a serb sign on the door of my house (like the Germans did with the Jews f.e.)? What about people taking a part of a foreign country, isn´t that nationalsim at it´s best?

Thanks,
Sneza

]]> By: beth http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/comment-page-1/#comment-1389903 beth Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:07:02 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/#comment-1389903 How can you say that the kosovars deserve independence? Nobody has mentioned that there were more srbian people killed by these albanians(yes albanians, there is no such thing as kosovars) after the UN came in , than the nuber of lives lost before the UN. These uncultured, uneducated albanians burned churches and monastaries while the UN SOLDERS WATCHED. Now they want to live in peace? What kind of peace can you expect when you forcefully take something that doesn't belong to you? KOSOVO WAS SRBIJA KOSOVO IS SRBIJA KOSOVO WILL ALWAYS BE SRBIJA WE ARE PATIENT PEOPLE WE ARE GODS PEOPLE WE WILL PREVAIL How can you say that the kosovars deserve independence?

Nobody has mentioned that there were more srbian people killed by these albanians(yes albanians, there is no such thing as kosovars) after the UN came in , than the nuber of lives lost before the UN. These uncultured, uneducated albanians burned churches and monastaries while the UN SOLDERS WATCHED.
Now they want to live in peace? What kind of peace can you expect when you forcefully take something that doesn’t belong to you?
KOSOVO WAS SRBIJA
KOSOVO IS SRBIJA
KOSOVO WILL ALWAYS BE SRBIJA

WE ARE PATIENT PEOPLE
WE ARE GODS PEOPLE
WE WILL PREVAIL

]]> By: Gjipeja http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/comment-page-1/#comment-1389300 Gjipeja Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:12:54 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/#comment-1389300 Dear alex and all serbian blogers that are talking on behalf of albanians. You are not really able to understand an albanian because your blog is only linked with other serbian ones. Independence is not about territory. Is about people. and albanians deserved to be free from a regime that maltreated, killed and terrorized them for 100 years. Is all right to be sorry and feel anger because kosovo proclaimed independence. I totally understand and I would have felt the same. However don't speak about "theories" of albanians. Is not fair since your knowledge about Albania and Republic of Kosovo is too limited because of different factors. . I may tell to you and who ever is concerned. Is not about territory... (like serbia is concerned) or the speculations of great albania.... is about freedom and prosperity people, rights without discrimination and living without a "big brother". Kosovars deserves independence more than anyone else, regardless the implications on the internal and international arena. Albanians should blog more and give some insights to their nationalist fellows from serbia. Dear alex and all serbian blogers that are talking on behalf of albanians. You are not really able to understand an albanian because your blog is only linked with other serbian ones. Independence is not about territory. Is about people. and albanians deserved to be free from a regime that maltreated, killed and terrorized them for 100 years. Is all right to be sorry and feel anger because kosovo proclaimed independence. I totally understand and I would have felt the same. However don’t speak about “theories” of albanians. Is not fair since your knowledge about Albania and Republic of Kosovo is too limited because of different factors. . I may tell to you and who ever is concerned. Is not about territory… (like serbia is concerned) or the speculations of great albania…. is about freedom and prosperity people, rights without discrimination and living without a “big brother”. Kosovars deserves independence more than anyone else, regardless the implications on the internal and international arena. Albanians should blog more and give some insights to their nationalist fellows from serbia.

]]> By: aleks http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/comment-page-1/#comment-1388598 aleks Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:27:40 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/19/serbia-anger-disbelief-over-proclamation-of-kosovo-independence/#comment-1388598 What is wrong with people?????? Kosovo is obviously SERBAN TERITORY, and of coerce Bush is going to be on the Albanians side, has he done one right thing so far? Its not that hard to get, Albanians have this theory that Albania has to be big country, and that all of the Balkan countries belong to them. Newsflash THEY DON’T!!!! If the Albanians are not stopped now how much more countries will they want? How much of us Balkans will have to suffer because of them? All I know is this is not right Kosovo is SERBIAN and should STAY THAT WAY. What is wrong with people?????? Kosovo is obviously SERBAN TERITORY, and of coerce Bush is going to be on the Albanians side, has he done one right thing so far? Its not that hard to get, Albanians have this theory that Albania has to be big country, and that all of the Balkan countries belong to them. Newsflash THEY DON’T!!!! If the Albanians are not stopped now how much more countries will they want? How much of us Balkans will have to suffer because of them?

All I know is this is not right Kosovo is SERBIAN and should STAY THAT WAY.

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