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	<title>Comments on: Morocco: The Whole &#8220;Kitten&#8221; Caboodle</title>
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		<title>By: Lydia Beyoud</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/06/morocco-the-whole-kitten-caboodle/comment-page-2/#comment-1575631</link>
		<dc:creator>Lydia Beyoud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a wonderful insight on  Kitten Kaboodle&#039;s part; as for the raging debate between Chris and Jill, you are both right and your experiences are equally valid, at least in so far as the cats are concerned. And you both are pretty much making the same case about poverty and animal treatment. However, I find Chris&#039;s comments about women and education both demeaning and ill-informed. I can only assume that this was based on your personal experience, which is, again, valid. However, Moroccan women, and I&#039;m not talking a minority here, are most at least functionally bilingual, even multilingual, and hold positions in the police force (granted only as traffic cops, but that&#039;s a start), education, politics, health, and the arts. And I&#039;m not sure where this &quot;second class citizen&quot; comes from; certainly women are mistreated but hardly worse than many are treated in the U.S. (I won&#039;t bring certain other Western countries into this because I think they may be more advanced in their treatment of women&#039;s equality than the US.) This does not erase the prevalent poverty and high illiteracy that remains, particularly among older and rural generations. However, these are not directly related to treatment of animals. The Prophet was an illiterate, but by all regards, intelligent man, and there are many hadith of him preaching kind treatment of animals. Also, poor treatment of animals is not something only developing countries have. Let us remember the mass abandonment of beloved French dogs in the summer vacation months, and that up until recently cats, perceived as vermin, were drowned in sacks in the canals of Venice...Inversely, I&#039;m told by friends who&#039;ve lived in Egypt and Turkey that there cats are extremely well regarded and treated (though still probably disease-ridden and hungry, but then, so are many people). Is it wise to extrapolate one experience of a country to speak of the whole? Sometimes we must, but in this case, I think we should watch where we tread...Nevertheless, great comments, all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a wonderful insight on  Kitten Kaboodle&#8217;s part; as for the raging debate between Chris and Jill, you are both right and your experiences are equally valid, at least in so far as the cats are concerned. And you both are pretty much making the same case about poverty and animal treatment. However, I find Chris&#8217;s comments about women and education both demeaning and ill-informed. I can only assume that this was based on your personal experience, which is, again, valid. However, Moroccan women, and I&#8217;m not talking a minority here, are most at least functionally bilingual, even multilingual, and hold positions in the police force (granted only as traffic cops, but that&#8217;s a start), education, politics, health, and the arts. And I&#8217;m not sure where this &#8220;second class citizen&#8221; comes from; certainly women are mistreated but hardly worse than many are treated in the U.S. (I won&#8217;t bring certain other Western countries into this because I think they may be more advanced in their treatment of women&#8217;s equality than the US.) This does not erase the prevalent poverty and high illiteracy that remains, particularly among older and rural generations. However, these are not directly related to treatment of animals. The Prophet was an illiterate, but by all regards, intelligent man, and there are many hadith of him preaching kind treatment of animals. Also, poor treatment of animals is not something only developing countries have. Let us remember the mass abandonment of beloved French dogs in the summer vacation months, and that up until recently cats, perceived as vermin, were drowned in sacks in the canals of Venice&#8230;Inversely, I&#8217;m told by friends who&#8217;ve lived in Egypt and Turkey that there cats are extremely well regarded and treated (though still probably disease-ridden and hungry, but then, so are many people). Is it wise to extrapolate one experience of a country to speak of the whole? Sometimes we must, but in this case, I think we should watch where we tread&#8230;Nevertheless, great comments, all!</p>
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		<title>By: Jillian C. York</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/06/morocco-the-whole-kitten-caboodle/comment-page-2/#comment-1575594</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillian C. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t say you were making it up, but you&#039;ve spent time in what, two cities in Morocco and you&#039;re judging the whole of the Moroccan people?

First of all, the Moroccan education system in much of the country is actually quite good, and based on the French system.  Second, basic sanitation is not lacking in urban areas, and is making headway in more rural ones.  Third, you are right about the charities, but not about women playing second class citizens!  How much time have you really spent there?  Do you know anything about the culture?

I agree that Moroccans generally do not treat cats (and other animals) very well, to be honest with you, but when poverty is an issue, do you really expect them to worry about cats?!  Do we worry about squirrels in the west?  What makes cats so different, your expectation that they be domestic animals based on your western world view?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say you were making it up, but you&#8217;ve spent time in what, two cities in Morocco and you&#8217;re judging the whole of the Moroccan people?</p>
<p>First of all, the Moroccan education system in much of the country is actually quite good, and based on the French system.  Second, basic sanitation is not lacking in urban areas, and is making headway in more rural ones.  Third, you are right about the charities, but not about women playing second class citizens!  How much time have you really spent there?  Do you know anything about the culture?</p>
<p>I agree that Moroccans generally do not treat cats (and other animals) very well, to be honest with you, but when poverty is an issue, do you really expect them to worry about cats?!  Do we worry about squirrels in the west?  What makes cats so different, your expectation that they be domestic animals based on your western world view?</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisC</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/06/morocco-the-whole-kitten-caboodle/comment-page-2/#comment-1575588</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I&#039;m making it up . . .

Cats live among the Moroccan people in the same way pigeons do, it&#039;s despite the human neglect, cats have a funny way of making their homes where they&#039;re not wanted.

It&#039;s a country where most people live in poverty, they lack basic sanitation and education appears to be little better than Victorian England. The charity&#039;s that do work there, SPANA, etc. are supported largely by foreign money. And if women are expected to play second class citizen, then what of the lowly (dirty) cats!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I&#8217;m making it up . . .</p>
<p>Cats live among the Moroccan people in the same way pigeons do, it&#8217;s despite the human neglect, cats have a funny way of making their homes where they&#8217;re not wanted.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a country where most people live in poverty, they lack basic sanitation and education appears to be little better than Victorian England. The charity&#8217;s that do work there, SPANA, etc. are supported largely by foreign money. And if women are expected to play second class citizen, then what of the lowly (dirty) cats!?</p>
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		<title>By: Jillian C. York</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/06/morocco-the-whole-kitten-caboodle/comment-page-2/#comment-1575585</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillian C. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that&#039;s what you saw in Marrakesh and Agadir, why would you make an assumption about the whole of Moroccan people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that&#8217;s what you saw in Marrakesh and Agadir, why would you make an assumption about the whole of Moroccan people?</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisC</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/06/morocco-the-whole-kitten-caboodle/comment-page-2/#comment-1575328</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 09:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is completely at odds with what I saw of the cats in the cities of Marrakech and Agadir.

Other than a few exceptions, cats were emaciated and sickly. Outside a pharmacy we saw one poorly cat who had either cat flu or something similar, his nose was thick with mucus and the skin was scabby with what looked like an extreme flea allergy, he looked desperately unwell. Not far from there we saw a whisper of a kitten, one eye infected, swollen with pus, it struggled along even after a man stepped on her as she made her way to her mother. What would you do if you had stepped on a poorly animal? Would you walk on? He did.

Generally I feel the Moroccan people couldn&#039;t give a damn about the animals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is completely at odds with what I saw of the cats in the cities of Marrakech and Agadir.</p>
<p>Other than a few exceptions, cats were emaciated and sickly. Outside a pharmacy we saw one poorly cat who had either cat flu or something similar, his nose was thick with mucus and the skin was scabby with what looked like an extreme flea allergy, he looked desperately unwell. Not far from there we saw a whisper of a kitten, one eye infected, swollen with pus, it struggled along even after a man stepped on her as she made her way to her mother. What would you do if you had stepped on a poorly animal? Would you walk on? He did.</p>
<p>Generally I feel the Moroccan people couldn&#8217;t give a damn about the animals.</p>
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		<title>By: Jillian C. York</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/06/morocco-the-whole-kitten-caboodle/comment-page-1/#comment-1458390</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillian C. York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 01:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I have no idea how Febreze found me or why they consider me highly regarded (perhaps it&#8217;s my cat&#8217;s celebrity) but I like [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I have no idea how Febreze found me or why they consider me highly regarded (perhaps it&#8217;s my cat&#8217;s celebrity) but I like [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Skittles, The Huntress</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/06/morocco-the-whole-kitten-caboodle/comment-page-1/#comment-1387135</link>
		<dc:creator>Skittles, The Huntress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 02:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My latest post &quot;Morocco Monday&quot; is up if anyone wishes to see more Morocco kitties.

Luv,

Skittles, The Huntress</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My latest post &#8220;Morocco Monday&#8221; is up if anyone wishes to see more Morocco kitties.</p>
<p>Luv,</p>
<p>Skittles, The Huntress</p>
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		<title>By: Jillian York</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/06/morocco-the-whole-kitten-caboodle/comment-page-1/#comment-1387015</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillian York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for such lovely comments, everyone!

And Rebecca, it&#039;s fine if you&#039;d like to post a link - I appreciate it!

Best,
Jillian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for such lovely comments, everyone!</p>
<p>And Rebecca, it&#8217;s fine if you&#8217;d like to post a link &#8211; I appreciate it!</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Jillian</p>
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		<title>By: rebecca</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/06/morocco-the-whole-kitten-caboodle/comment-page-1/#comment-1386795</link>
		<dc:creator>rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LC has plenty of pizzazz; what a personality. And really beautiful!

If it&#039;s OK I would like to post a link to your post on my website; I found your post inspiring.  I&#039;ve heard that Muslim countries as a whole are pro-feline, and I&#039;m glad Israel is too.  BTW, I&#039;m in the Catlover Community, an online community of cat lovers. You can see this when you come to the front page of my site.  Cheers, Rebecca</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LC has plenty of pizzazz; what a personality. And really beautiful!</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s OK I would like to post a link to your post on my website; I found your post inspiring.  I&#8217;ve heard that Muslim countries as a whole are pro-feline, and I&#8217;m glad Israel is too.  BTW, I&#8217;m in the Catlover Community, an online community of cat lovers. You can see this when you come to the front page of my site.  Cheers, Rebecca</p>
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		<title>By: Lydia Beyoud</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/06/morocco-the-whole-kitten-caboodle/comment-page-1/#comment-1379992</link>
		<dc:creator>Lydia Beyoud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 07:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jill, lovely post as usual. I enjoyed your own comments as well as some of the above. What kindness cats receive in Israel! People don&#039;t even do that in the States and we&#039;re pretty cat-centric (of course, we haven&#039;t go so many just roaming around...) LC looks like quite the character!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jill, lovely post as usual. I enjoyed your own comments as well as some of the above. What kindness cats receive in Israel! People don&#8217;t even do that in the States and we&#8217;re pretty cat-centric (of course, we haven&#8217;t go so many just roaming around&#8230;) LC looks like quite the character!</p>
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		<title>By: 2008 it</title>
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		<dc:creator>2008 it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Almost half of Moroccan people  are illiterate.Yet, this compassion and this symbiosis with their cats are not learned at school or in the books, they&#039;re  simply a natural behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost half of Moroccan people  are illiterate.Yet, this compassion and this symbiosis with their cats are not learned at school or in the books, they&#8217;re  simply a natural behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Reb</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/06/morocco-the-whole-kitten-caboodle/comment-page-1/#comment-1377947</link>
		<dc:creator>Reb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never heard of training cats to do much of anything let alone to guard chickens. I could not even train mine to use the toilet :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never heard of training cats to do much of anything let alone to guard chickens. I could not even train mine to use the toilet :(</p>
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		<title>By: Maya Norton</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/06/morocco-the-whole-kitten-caboodle/comment-page-1/#comment-1377911</link>
		<dc:creator>Maya Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jillian, 

What a wonderful post. And here I thought Israel was the land of felinity. Glad to hear that our neighbors to the south are equally as populated and popular with our furry friends. 

In Israel, people often leave bowls of water and food out for cats to eat from, especially in the summer when less natural water is available. While they do enjoy snacking on trash, or at least congregating near dumpsters, I have always thought that it was quite an hospitable situation for cats in this country. Glad to learn that Morocco is the same. 

Maya

Israel Writer, Global Voices Online</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jillian, </p>
<p>What a wonderful post. And here I thought Israel was the land of felinity. Glad to hear that our neighbors to the south are equally as populated and popular with our furry friends. </p>
<p>In Israel, people often leave bowls of water and food out for cats to eat from, especially in the summer when less natural water is available. While they do enjoy snacking on trash, or at least congregating near dumpsters, I have always thought that it was quite an hospitable situation for cats in this country. Glad to learn that Morocco is the same. </p>
<p>Maya</p>
<p>Israel Writer, Global Voices Online</p>
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		<title>By: Jillian York</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/06/morocco-the-whole-kitten-caboodle/comment-page-1/#comment-1377856</link>
		<dc:creator>Jillian York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Skittles,

I apologize for the error and have fixed it.  LC and I look forward to reading the next edition of &quot;Morocco Monday.&quot;

Best,
Jillian York</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Skittles,</p>
<p>I apologize for the error and have fixed it.  LC and I look forward to reading the next edition of &#8220;Morocco Monday.&#8221;</p>
<p>Best,<br />
Jillian York</p>
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		<title>By: Skittles, The Huntress</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2008/02/06/morocco-the-whole-kitten-caboodle/comment-page-1/#comment-1377652</link>
		<dc:creator>Skittles, The Huntress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 06:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello!

Thank you for mentioning my website!  My pet human visited Morocco in December.  Cats are everywhere, holding very important positions in society.

BTW:  The spelling of my site is &quot;The Whole Kitten Kaboodle.&quot;  K instead of C for Kaboodle.

Check back next Monday for the next edition of &quot;Morocco Monday.&quot;

Luv,
Skittles, The Huntress</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello!</p>
<p>Thank you for mentioning my website!  My pet human visited Morocco in December.  Cats are everywhere, holding very important positions in society.</p>
<p>BTW:  The spelling of my site is &#8220;The Whole Kitten Kaboodle.&#8221;  K instead of C for Kaboodle.</p>
<p>Check back next Monday for the next edition of &#8220;Morocco Monday.&#8221;</p>
<p>Luv,<br />
Skittles, The Huntress</p>
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