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		<title>By: Gabby Aloe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabby Aloe</dc:creator>
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		<description>THANKS FOR LINKING!</description>
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		<title>By: Ramo!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramo!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is another one ...

http://ramiropol.acercadelaeducacion.com.ar/?p=67</description>
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		<title>By: Blog de Viajes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Medios, blogs e información: la controversia sobre el Personal Fest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blog de Viajes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Medios, blogs e información: la controversia sobre el Personal Fest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Louise Belfrage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louise Belfrage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for this account of what happened at Personal and the following reactions to the event. it is VERY important that these abuses are written about and the media in Argentina is hopelessly toothless due to the fact that 1)the government and 2)the larger advertisers hold them by their necks.
Louise Belfrage
The WIP, www.thewip.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for this account of what happened at Personal and the following reactions to the event. it is VERY important that these abuses are written about and the media in Argentina is hopelessly toothless due to the fact that 1)the government and 2)the larger advertisers hold them by their necks.<br />
Louise Belfrage<br />
The WIP, <a href="http://www.thewip.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.thewip.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: matiasch</title>
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		<dc:creator>matiasch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good report. Thera many links in my blog about all that. If you want, you can visit it. Bye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good report. Thera many links in my blog about all that. If you want, you can visit it. Bye.</p>
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		<title>By: Yako</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CB all that you state were just reactions to the extensive coverage independent media was giving to the issue.

They had to go out and say something, if not they were going to lose big time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CB all that you state were just reactions to the extensive coverage independent media was giving to the issue.</p>
<p>They had to go out and say something, if not they were going to lose big time.</p>
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		<title>By: Blog de Pablo Mancini &#8212; Personal Fest en Global Voices</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blog de Pablo Mancini &#8212; Personal Fest en Global Voices</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Global Voices Online habla de los flujos informativos en torno al Personal Fest y los mapea   En: Blogs, Nuevos medios, Asides &#8212; Diciembre 13, 2007 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jorge Gobbi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge Gobbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colin, many of the facts that you state in your comment should be contextualized. Yes, the Rolling Stone magazine finally published a note, but they took four days to do so -and you know quite well how important is timing in journalism. The original coverage of the event barely mentioned the incidents, and talked about a &quot;no reason stampede&quot;. There are no excuses regarding time, since Pagina/12 published an account of the facts on Sunday, and on Saturday many blogs were already talking about it. Now well: you mention three media that covered the incident -and I would point out a fourth one, Cronica newspaper, which I discovered after I posted the entry. And the rest? Why did no other mass media publish about the incident? Why wasn&#039;t there almost any &quot;last minute&quot; newsflash in the local cable TV news stations, where even a car crash deserves such mention, and on a Friday night, when there are not many news? Precisely, having to search around and just coming up with three media as all the coverage -and none of them being leader in audience- you make it clear that a large part of the local press ignored the incident. Of course, you can make a corporative defense of the issue, but by not adequately covering the facts, the media itself helped the spreading of rumors and the magnifying of the subject. The truth is that to be informed about that Saturday&#039;s incident, it was necessary to turn to blogs. Do they misinform about the subject? Maybe we would have a better view of the facts if more media had covered the incident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colin, many of the facts that you state in your comment should be contextualized. Yes, the Rolling Stone magazine finally published a note, but they took four days to do so -and you know quite well how important is timing in journalism. The original coverage of the event barely mentioned the incidents, and talked about a &#8220;no reason stampede&#8221;. There are no excuses regarding time, since Pagina/12 published an account of the facts on Sunday, and on Saturday many blogs were already talking about it. Now well: you mention three media that covered the incident -and I would point out a fourth one, Cronica newspaper, which I discovered after I posted the entry. And the rest? Why did no other mass media publish about the incident? Why wasn&#8217;t there almost any &#8220;last minute&#8221; newsflash in the local cable TV news stations, where even a car crash deserves such mention, and on a Friday night, when there are not many news? Precisely, having to search around and just coming up with three media as all the coverage -and none of them being leader in audience- you make it clear that a large part of the local press ignored the incident. Of course, you can make a corporative defense of the issue, but by not adequately covering the facts, the media itself helped the spreading of rumors and the magnifying of the subject. The truth is that to be informed about that Saturday&#8217;s incident, it was necessary to turn to blogs. Do they misinform about the subject? Maybe we would have a better view of the facts if more media had covered the incident.</p>
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		<title>By: Argentina: Snoop Scoop Dogged by Rumors; Rolling Stone Gathers No Dross &#171; The New Market Machines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Argentina: Snoop Scoop Dogged by Rumors; Rolling Stone Gathers No Dross &#171; The New Market Machines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Global Voices Online » Argentina: What the Media Didn’t Say About Personal Fest: Harvard Law&#8217;s prestigious prize-winner for &#8220;innovations in journalism&#8221; demonstrates once again that its principal innovation is moral panic. See also [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CB</title>
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		<dc:creator>CB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The only news organization&quot; to report on this story?&quot; This is simply not true. 

A quick Google News search indicates that Rolling Stone, Urgente24, and Channel 26 all covered the incident pretty extensively, at least. And quite a bit of the  coverage in the metro and regional dailies did register the stabbing as part of their coverage, though they did not report extensively on what led to the incident.  

Rolling Stone interviewed the alleged stabbing victim, one Edisson Boudiwan, in his hospital bed, at length, and defended the supposed &quot;cover-up&quot; of the incident on its part as prudent journalism: It said it did not wish to contribute to the rumor-mill that quickly grew up around the incident.  

&quot;Respecto de la herida sobre la que se informó, repetimos, ya a las 3 de la mañana -- con otra actualización a las 5 AM, tras información obtenida en el mismo hospital Rivadavia en que se destacaba su estado de salud estable -- este medio no ofreció confirmaciones acerca de que se trataba de una herida cortante porque eso no fue precisado por ninguna fuente médica ni policial. En ese momento la confusión era mucha y los rumores también. Si bien fue un colaborador de esta revista quien acompañó la camilla hasta el puesto de la Cruz Roja con una visible mancha de sangre y que parte de este equipo vio escenas del incidente en las cámaras de circuito cerrado que había en la oficina de prensa (en las que sólo se veía un tumulto y el joven caído), no había hasta ahí más que rumores acerca de que era una herida cortante. Afirmar cómo se había producido la herida en ese momento, hubiera sido tan imprudente e irresponsable como hacerse eco de rumores más graves.&quot;

What more can you ask of a major publication  like Rolling Stone than to interview the man on the receiving end of the 10cm blade in question about what happened? And quote him extensively? Along with interviews with corroborating witnesses?  

Heroes of Soviet citizen journalism or a rumor-amplifying echo chamber? A legitimate debate. Naturally, hip hop fans will want more detail on the incident than general-interest readers. But it does seem Rolling Stone actually did make a credible effort to provide that for its readers.

In any event, claiming that NO news organizations covered the incident in depth, in order to extol &quot;citizen journalism&quot;, seems like the very sort of baseless exaggeration that represents a principal risk of the phenomenon you are celebrating rather uncritically here.

Here in São Paulo, for example, after the TAM air disaster, the UOL news portal prominently and proudly displayed a &quot;citizen journalism&quot; photo showing someone leaping from a burning building struck by the malfunctioning jetliner, accompanied by many of the same claims you make here. But not only was it a Photoshop montage, it was an extremely CRUDE Photoshop montage that an awful lot of cheap Photoshop montage artists (I am one, although I do most of my crude montage work using the GIMP these days) recognized as such almost immediately. 

The portal&#039;s ombudsman issued a very stern warning to its &quot;content managers&quot; to exercise some professional due diligence next time. It is bad for business for a news organization to brand as fact what is actually fiction, she noted. The portal is owned by one of Brazil&#039;s most prestigious newspapers, which does not need its brand associated with the act of uncritically passing along unfiltered rumors and fabrications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The only news organization&#8221; to report on this story?&#8221; This is simply not true. </p>
<p>A quick Google News search indicates that Rolling Stone, Urgente24, and Channel 26 all covered the incident pretty extensively, at least. And quite a bit of the  coverage in the metro and regional dailies did register the stabbing as part of their coverage, though they did not report extensively on what led to the incident.  </p>
<p>Rolling Stone interviewed the alleged stabbing victim, one Edisson Boudiwan, in his hospital bed, at length, and defended the supposed &#8220;cover-up&#8221; of the incident on its part as prudent journalism: It said it did not wish to contribute to the rumor-mill that quickly grew up around the incident.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Respecto de la herida sobre la que se informó, repetimos, ya a las 3 de la mañana &#8212; con otra actualización a las 5 AM, tras información obtenida en el mismo hospital Rivadavia en que se destacaba su estado de salud estable &#8212; este medio no ofreció confirmaciones acerca de que se trataba de una herida cortante porque eso no fue precisado por ninguna fuente médica ni policial. En ese momento la confusión era mucha y los rumores también. Si bien fue un colaborador de esta revista quien acompañó la camilla hasta el puesto de la Cruz Roja con una visible mancha de sangre y que parte de este equipo vio escenas del incidente en las cámaras de circuito cerrado que había en la oficina de prensa (en las que sólo se veía un tumulto y el joven caído), no había hasta ahí más que rumores acerca de que era una herida cortante. Afirmar cómo se había producido la herida en ese momento, hubiera sido tan imprudente e irresponsable como hacerse eco de rumores más graves.&#8221;</p>
<p>What more can you ask of a major publication  like Rolling Stone than to interview the man on the receiving end of the 10cm blade in question about what happened? And quote him extensively? Along with interviews with corroborating witnesses?  </p>
<p>Heroes of Soviet citizen journalism or a rumor-amplifying echo chamber? A legitimate debate. Naturally, hip hop fans will want more detail on the incident than general-interest readers. But it does seem Rolling Stone actually did make a credible effort to provide that for its readers.</p>
<p>In any event, claiming that NO news organizations covered the incident in depth, in order to extol &#8220;citizen journalism&#8221;, seems like the very sort of baseless exaggeration that represents a principal risk of the phenomenon you are celebrating rather uncritically here.</p>
<p>Here in São Paulo, for example, after the TAM air disaster, the UOL news portal prominently and proudly displayed a &#8220;citizen journalism&#8221; photo showing someone leaping from a burning building struck by the malfunctioning jetliner, accompanied by many of the same claims you make here. But not only was it a Photoshop montage, it was an extremely CRUDE Photoshop montage that an awful lot of cheap Photoshop montage artists (I am one, although I do most of my crude montage work using the GIMP these days) recognized as such almost immediately. </p>
<p>The portal&#8217;s ombudsman issued a very stern warning to its &#8220;content managers&#8221; to exercise some professional due diligence next time. It is bad for business for a news organization to brand as fact what is actually fiction, she noted. The portal is owned by one of Brazil&#8217;s most prestigious newspapers, which does not need its brand associated with the act of uncritically passing along unfiltered rumors and fabrications.</p>
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		<title>By: mauro</title>
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		<dc:creator>mauro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Citizen journalism? Blog revolution? Call it what you want. I assure you that to be well informed, the traditional media is not enough.&quot;

I write that, in the other blog. Thanks for linking! 
greetings
(sorry for my bad english, i am argentinian :s)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Citizen journalism? Blog revolution? Call it what you want. I assure you that to be well informed, the traditional media is not enough.&#8221;</p>
<p>I write that, in the other blog. Thanks for linking!<br />
greetings<br />
(sorry for my bad english, i am argentinian :s)</p>
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