Shenyang was mobbed today with furious ex-ant farmers, former employees of Yilishen, a media darling and one of China's most well-known brands in the health supplement market, as the company has just closed, taking the huge amounts its peasant-class employees had invested with it. The city's ant farming industry is no stranger to controversy, and neither is the company. Blog posts on the subject were quickly deleted, including most of the ones below, but a larger mass action remains scheduled for November 21.
[Nov. 22 update (futher updates below): video is trickling out, and bloggers are rushing to save it before it gets deleted like this 56.com clip which was posted at 11am today and received 37 pages of comments before it was taken down just after 3pm. Here's one from Ku6 user Muxiwen:]
And a slideshow from 56.com's Yu Jian entitled ‘The biggest post-Liberation riot in Shenyang since the Cultural Revolution‘, hopefully simulating the video he had deleted yesterday:
NetEase blogger ‘Heartbreak leaves no scars' relates to the incident through a November 18 post recounting a phone call with a friend that lost nearly all of her savings, ‘hurt is a kind of unspeakable pain':
今天，姐打来电话，声音很是无力与沮丧。她告诉我‘小妹，蚁力神完了，姐的希望破灭了！我手握听筒，竟一时语噻。我找不到更动听的语言来安慰姐姐。面对姐二，三十万的投资转瞬间即将成为泡影的现实，我那几句华丽，肤浅的劝慰，是不是太显苍白无力？要知道，对于一个依靠月工资收入的普通人家，一点一滴的积蓄都是从牙缝省下来的，那是姐几十年的心血啊！孤注一掷之后，有多宽的心态，才能再付之东流时，笑着说我无所谓？我体会得到姐的心情，但我却望尘莫及，时至今日，我唯有在心里对姐说；姐，挺住！不管你即将面对的是怎样的一种结局，也许这几十万血本无归，也许你的损失会最大限度的降低，这已经都不重要。看看你拥有的现在，最起码儿女都已成人，不用你操心；最起码你跟姐夫加起来的退休金也有四千来块；最起码你们已年届六旬，却还身子骨硬朗！。。。。。。姐，看看你身边可以顺手拈来的幸福，那些身外之物还重要吗？
Baidu blogger dayongcom also shares a conversation with a friend in an earlier post dated Nov. 16, ‘Risk, risk…':
今天和一个当蚁力神养户的朋友聊了一会，他的心情比我差多了，可以说他都要疯了！听他说话显的非常激动。他真是一个什么家当都没有的人，他母亲在他小时候就没了，父亲常年有病，活着时候政府还给他家办了个“特困”三年前他父亲也没了，“特困”待遇也没了。随后住的平房也动迁了，好象政府是给了八万多块钱，也不够买个房子的。后来又找了个离过婚的女人处对象，一直和对象到处租房子住。他对象当售货员，女人工作还好找点，要学历没学历要长相没长相的男人可就不好混了，他以前还有点前科啥地，只能找地方打个短工干两天。动迁给的那点钱除了生活用点外今年五月都投在了蚁力神上，返回的那点钱又凑合一下接着投了进去~~~~今年10月份竟然开始不返钱了！而且一托再托，转眼又托到11月21日了~~~~现在蚁力神公司动向不明对他来说简直就是折磨！这点钱在有的人眼里看虽然不多，但这是他全部家当和对未来的希望啊！这要是出点差错他以后会怎样面对生活？我真不敢想！我除了安慰他两句之外啥办法也没有，还是祝他好运吧。怎么现在这社会明目张胆的骗子这么多？？真是明目张胆的开玩，ZF睁一只眼闭一只眼任其发展壮大。。。现在蚁力神动态不明，要是再定性非法融资后辽宁不得被全国人说成骗子省啊！这社会陷阱多啊，有些人掉下去几回没事，但有的人掉下去后果可非常严重！
‘How many ants, how much worry?' asks NetEase blogger Begging in Paradise in a Nov. 20 post:
“蚁力神”不神了,王凤友不灵了.天玺集团大厦将倾.日前养殖业户最为关注最为敏感的话题莫过于此.千千万万家养殖” 黑多刺蚂蚁”的人们最为担心的事终于发生了.
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此时此刻同情是没有丝毫作用的,我只能在心底深深地 那些” 黑多刺蚂蚁”的养殖业户,遭遇了这很残酷的事实.几多蚂蚁,基多愁!我感同身受,天庸讳言,这是个难以忍受的煎熬的时段.
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近日耳闻王凤友的”天玺集团”资金运作出现危机时,在大家的猜测与冷静的分析中得出结论,恐怕每天都在一堵窟窿的王凤友其实活得非常沉重,比谁都累!一个人如果过着拆东墙补西墙的日子,那简直是一种无情而可怕的生活.
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我们拭目以待,静看事态的发展
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At this point in time, sympathy is of absolutely no use to me, I can only look deep inside myself….those black ant farmers have been met with a most cruel truth. How many ants? How much worry! I fully sympathize, and there's no need to keep silent. This is a hard, tormenting moment to endure.
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Recently the word has been that Wang Fengyou's “Tianxi Group” has been running on dangerously low funds, and the conclusion of people's speculation and calm analysis has led them to fear daily that Wang Fengyou is in the hole, and actually getting by with the utmost difficulty, more exhausted than anyone! Anyone who only gets by by tearing the bricks off the east wall just to build the west wall, simply must have a cold and terrible life.
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We can only wait and see what happens, and calmly watch how the situation develops.
Not gently, judging from the photos NetEase blogger Diadora posted on the evening of Nov. 20:
蚁力神养户围堵市委,省委,声势浩大!有上万之众.来自本溪\辽阳\大连\鞍山等地.现省委已调派大量的防爆警察,周边的警力均已出动!!!
Calmly is not how most people seem to have reacted. From an anonymous and unsympathetic poster with an alleged semi-insider's view, writing on the ChinaByte forum:
蚁力神终于TMD的倒闭了：蚁力神倒闭,养殖户血本无归!
坑害了多少农民阿。。。。。
两年前我家就在养，周围邻居亲属都在养。。。。
赵本山还在拍摄的流行连续剧《刘老根》里帮蚁力神做广告，这些全栽进去了。。。。
Two years ago my family was farming, and so were all the neighbors and relatives around us….
Zhao Benshan is still filming his popular sitcom Liu Laogen and using it to do ads for Yilishen…
[Frequently seen on Chinese television]
蚁力神走到今天是一个必然的结局.本人在蚁力神做过一年多的分公司经理,当时想不明白,为什么产品卖的不好,各个分公司都陪钱,而蚁力神还象没什么事一样,对外鼓吹大发展呢?后来明白了,是为了让辽宁城乡的人都对蚁力神放心,让他们掏腰包养蚂蚁.可是这种借来的高利贷钱迟早是要还的,蚁力神想到了去香港上市,可惜,”伟哥”事件又把这件事情毁了.如果2004年上市成功.能募集到14亿资金,蚁力神就可以从养蚂蚁集资的事情里脱离出来,只是,人算不如天算.这时候蚁力神已经没有退路,只能继续扩大养殖户,用后面人的钱还前面人的钱.本来这样的事情不太好做的长久,但是在蚁力神公司的大力运做下,在政府的默许和媒体的推波助澜下,在无知人们认为天上掉馅饼的情况下,蚁力神走到了今
很多人怨恨,埋怨,其实这一切都是你自己的无知造成的.当然政府和媒体也有责任,你又能把他们怎么样?只有自己提高警惕和认识才能少上当和不上当.
蚁力神也知道自己要做的是稳定人心,只要大家都认为他没事,蚁力神就会存在的长久些但是他们一定是数学学的不好,这是需要按几何方式有人加入才能维持下去的事实,是不可能实现的目标,今天终于停摆了.我为那些后来的加入者祈祷!
Both alarming and inspiring is the wiki that someone has set up just to keep track of how the larger protest proceeds; an excerpt:
蚁力神要是破产 政府就是罪魁祸首！ 一个经营了8年的公司 那么多荣誉那么多光环！明明知道公司的存亡关系到上百万老百姓的死活，政府为什么不帮助蚁力神渡过难关！ 明明知道多少人家破人忙 政府完全不顾我们死活！ 政府根本就不想扶植蚁力神！任其自生自灭，是政府喝了我们的血！现在还要我们的命！！！！！！ 今天打人的警察，我记下了他的警号115951 老爷们明天都带上白酒御寒 到时候坐在省委门口边喝边研究 喝多了就他妈的闹反正都到绝路了，有时间的明天都去，别再家等现成的了，都是我们自己的事情。 没别的办法了.能看见我说的这句话的人都尽最大的能力去沈阳了,也就只剩下去沈阳的这条道了,如果说现在还在想着在家里等的话,那就都别想拿到钱了 现在的情况我想大家都知道,现在就是不怕事闹大就怕事闹小,现在政府都把消息封闭了,
40多天啦，相信大家都是在极度的紧张中度过的，我们担惊受怕这么多天现在还是在拖我们养护，我们决不能妥协拉，ｙｌｓ从不返钱开始就有政府在参与（因为媒体和网络都在封锁蚁力神的消息，所以只能是政府参与在这里才会出现这种情况），政府想让我们养护受到损失是不肯能的，我们大家一定要齐心协力把我们的血汗钱要回来，明天大家都要去，这个事情不搞大，不引起社会各界的关注，我们就什么都得不到拉，不能让政府不能让ｙｌｓ这么对待我们养护，群里有资料（大家多多收集）我们大家多向外界媒体，新闻评论，国外网站，各国大使馆，南方的一些新闻媒体等反映，特别是网络流量比较大的社区（猫扑，搜狐，新浪，中华网，中青网等等），我们大家有相机的，都摄像机的都拿着，把政府的丑恶嘴脸记录下来，我们大家一定要齐心，不要持观望态度，钱都没有啦，以后也过部下去啦，还怕什么呢，如果不还我们的血汗钱，奥运会就别想开啦！！！！！！！！
Videos posted on several Chinese video sharing websites show a talk Yilishen president Wang Fengyou gave recently under what appears to be heavy police protection; in the comments left below this video, one reader estimates 5,000-6,000 people showed up at the Liaoning province Party committee hall on November 20. Many comments now following that are death threats aimed at Wang timed for Nov. 21, when the first main protest is set to take place:
Update: The video above has been taken down, but there are more. This video from Youku user Angel Bu lists a QQ group for ant farmers to discuss their plight in the comments, as do videos put up by user kefe1:
Update, Nov. 21, 3pm:
MSN Live Spaces blogger YoungDan68 writes this afternoon of trying last night to take the baby home for a diaper change and finding his road completely shut off and himself remains unable to return home for the moment.
Also this afternoon are several photos taken yesterday and today from Ycul blogger Wen Xuan, who writes that ant farmers began gathering at the Yilishen HQ, which has since been taken over by the People's Armed Police, around 10 am on Nov. 19, creating a very chaotic scene wherein no-one it seems was hurt. Today, Nov.21, she writes, about 10,000 people had gathered at the provincial Party committee hall by around 1:30 pm:
Update2, Nov. 21, 10pm:
Same old whack-a-mole approach; information surrounding what's going on in Shenyang keeps getting deleted at a rate just a little bit faster than bloggers are able to spread it around(forgot to take into account that Bullog is back, see links in Chinese below). Ycul's Wen Xuan (see above) is back with another post. She asks:
为什么会有这么多人陷入？这样一个显而易见的谎言为何会延续如此之长？敬请关注近期出版的成都传媒集团，先锋中国《调查》深度报道《蚁力神，150亿集资背后的疯狂！》
How could so many people get caught up in this? How could such an obvious lie propagate as long as it has? I'd ask you to check out the recently published investigative report from Vanguard China's “Investigation”, “Yilishen, the insanity behind the 15 billion raised!” put out by Chengdu Media Group.
Some interesting information is being collected on the Beijing DVD bbs; among what can now been seen there is background to how Yilishen products ended up being banned in the USA, an explanation of how Yilishen outsources its bee-raising needs, and enough statistics to make a newspaper editor quit drinking coffee; a short example:
目前蚁力神养殖专业户的年发展速度已经超过40％，在册养殖专业户的数量为27 万户，平均每户投入资金4.2 万元，总金额上百亿元，涉及到的家庭人口100 万
The Free China blogger at MSN Live Spaces posted some photos just before noon today:
The Aboluowang blogger has added a few others:
And even more can be found, for now, at the Yilishen8 blog hosted by NetEase:
Update, Nov. 2223:
最近消息 (latest news)：
谁用谁知道？ (Wang Xiaofeng!)
沈阳市中心连续3天发生示威事件：陷入一片混乱
[1510报童] (1510!)
蚁—力—神怎么了？为什么消息会被封锁？(Mop)
sogou真不是盖的！人家那搜索技术……
沈阳蚁力神事件照片综合 (photo slideshow round-up, and this blog has been on top of the story)
[G2G] Re: “蚁力神”被和谐了！！！
蚁力神咋回事？
蚂蚁
‘Natural’ viagra arouses farmers’ anger
超级链接综合 Comprehensive round-up
“蚁力神”神话的破灭
11.20辽宁省沈阳市爆发大规模示威，数万人聚集省委省政府，沈阳全部警力出动。（苹果日报）
谁愿意去沈阳越俎代庖报道蚁力神养殖户的相关情况？ Who's willing to go to Shenyang and poke around to find out and report on the ant farmers' situation? (Zola!)
新纪录 A new record (of deletion) (He Caitou!)
沈阳万人抗议“蚁力神”欺诈 包围省府 Ten thousand Shenyangers protest the Yilishen scam, surround the provincial government
中国速度 ChinaSpeed
蚁力神到底怎么了 Just what did Yilishen do?
蚁力神王奉友是否被抓的最新消息 The latest news on whether or not Yilishen CEO Wang Fenyou has been arrested
蚁力神倒塌，沈阳蚁农暴动 Yilishen collapses, Shenyang's ant farmers revolt
一个天大的赌局该收场了 One astronomical gamble ends badly
蚁力神的事情 Yilishen's affairs
蚁力神功能性灭绝 Yilishen's effectiveness has evaporated
谁封谁知道 Who's deleting, no-one knows (a pun on the Yilishen product slogan, ‘who's using it, no-one knows) (Buchong!)
赵本山葛优，蚂蚁上树 The ants are marching up the tree upon which Zhao Benshan sits (Han Han!)
搜集关于沈阳事件的现场图片文字 A collection of photos and writings from the scene of the Shenyang Incident (Beifeng!)
沈阳天玺集团多年来以高额回报的承诺，同数十万名养殖户签订合同收购“拟黑多刺蚂蚁”，用于生产一种叫“蚁力神”的保健食品。近月，天玺集团突然中断收购，也没有依照还款计划分期支付投资回报，还传出公司已经破产、高层出逃的消息。大陆互联网的消息说，数万名投资者星期二从四面八方涌到天玺集团在沈阳的总部示威，又到辽宁省委抗议，数千公安武警严阵以待，气氛非常紧张。记者星期三打电话到辽宁省委了解情况，没有人接听电话。记者又向天玺集团所在地的皇姑区公安分局了解：
记者：蚁力神的投资者几万人到省委反映情况要求解决投资款的问题，有这事吗？
警员：这我不能告诉你，我不接受采访。
而知情人士星期三晚向记者表示，投资者还聚集在省委大门外：
知情人士：示威者今天还在请愿，一部分在蚁力神公司总部，一部分在省委外。那天我听他们说省委那边封了路过不去了。现在好象没有听说官方正式表态发言要解决这件事。示威者相互在劝不要冲动，只要要回钱就行了。我没看到这两天发生了冲突，流血之类的事，也没听说抓人。
记者：蚁力神是不是中止了向养殖户收购蚂蚁？
知情人士：现在比较确切的说是没有返钱（给高额劳务费）。原来说十月份应该返钱的，然后推到了这个月，今天（星期三）要返钱的，现在又推到要下个月才返钱。出了什么问题天玺公司至今没有一个正式的说法。
蚁力神系列产品，根据其广告，是从中国特产的“拟黑多刺蚂蚁”体内提取特殊营养制成。由于“拟黑多刺蚂蚁”是主要原料，天玺集团与养殖户协议，养殖户以万元为单位向集团购买养殖装置，养成后高价卖给集团。虽然天玺集团自称蚁力神保健食品营养丰富、固本培元，但是产品是否具有那么强的功效一直存疑。而年销售额仅一亿多元人民币，也使得集团也从难以说明其资金回报的来源。
不过，天玺集团拥有商务部首批直销牌照，媒体不断地宣传它的合法性，公司总经理王奉友是全国商会副主席，在春节联欢晚会上亮相，被称为慈善家。因此，经营八年来，投资的养殖户数十万人，涉及资金难以计算。
二零零四年，美国食品与药品管理局向美国的消费者建议不要服用天玺集团的蚁力神产品因为该产品含有治疗阳萎的药物伟哥的成分，大陆也有一两家媒体披露：加了伟哥的产品好使，不加的不好使。此后，天玺集团的财务状况每况愈下。养殖户纷纷质疑，集团真正的目的是收取养殖户的抵押金，用后加盟养殖户的抵押金给先加盟的养殖户，以骗取更多人投资加盟。
星期二开始的上访请愿开始后，大陆互联网上有关蚁力神的讨论和示威讯息被官方大幅删除。知情人士说：
知情人士：网站上看不到相关消息了，我是进入养殖户的QQ群里才看到相关消息的，养殖户就是用这种方式联系的，而且很多QQ群被封了，不能发言了。
More from ESWN:
Once upon a time, there came along a company named Yilishen (蟻力神) in China. The company sells health and food products that derived from ants. But how does the company ensure that it gets an adequate supply of ants from which to extract the ingredients required for their products?
Yilishen actually used the well-known behavior of ants by recruiting massive numbers of ant farmers. Each ant farmer signs up with the company with an initial fee of 10,000 yuan, and then he gets supplied with the company ant-breeding equipment. The ant farmer gets paid for the number of ants produced at a price that ensures him a good profit if he meets the quota. Hundreds of thousands of people sign up.
The ability of the company to pay the ant farmers requires that enough of the ant-based products are being sold. If the sales exceeds the supply, all is well. If the sales is lower than the supply, it is hell to pay.
Recently, Yilishen suddenly discontinued buying from the the ant farmers as well as the payments. The rumor was that the company was bankrupt and the senior company officials have esconded. Several tens of thousands ant farmers converged to the company headquarters in Shenyang to protest without effect. So last night, the protestors switched their target and surrounded the Liaoning provincial party committee's office and broke through the police cordon to wave banners and chant slogan. The police are on full alert. Meanwhile, all discussions about Yilishen and the demonstrations have been disappeared from the mainland Chinese Internet.
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Do ants soaked in tea really help against arthritis? I was never aware that ants were farmed.
Good luck to the farmers!
This is gonna be the most seriouse incident ever happened in China. Hundreds of thousands of common people in Liaoning have invested billions of their entire saving onto this alleged fortune legend. I am not sure whether the boss Mr.Wang Fengyou could make it, but I pray it for God, blessing all those innocent people get their money back, please. Otherwise there’ll be a huge number of tragedies take place throughout whole Liaoning Province even northeast China. Hope local/central government could do something instead of killing all the related info on web.
God bless our people!!
到此一游…操~~
[Just passing through...f***~~]
从牛博国际上看到几张图片，搜索过来（消息都封锁了，能搜到的东西很少，有用的就更少了，只能看一些快照，谷歌更干脆，直接来个“无法访问您所搜索的信”），翻旧帖的过程中，发现兔子王和老黑在一年多前就开始揭露蚁力神非法集资的真相了，好像哪会相信的人不多，现在终于应验了，可是已经有了那么多的养户，后果真的不敢想。
[I saw a few photos on Bullog Int'l, and searched my way here (all news has been shut down, very few things can be found now, even less of anything useful, just a bit that's been cached, but Google.cn just freezes, comes right back with a "the item you are searching for cannot be found"), and while I was searching through old posts, I noticed that the Rabbit King and Old Black had begun exposing the truth that Yilishen had begun illegally raising funds over a year ago. It seems not many people believed them then, but now it's all come true, only for all those farmers, I don't dare think of what the consequences have been...]
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Thanks Solana. I don’t know how effective Yilishen’s products are…it seems a lot of people see the name and think ’soft viagra,’ or something like that.
@Mark, couldn’t agree with you more. I’ve read conflicting reports today, one batch saying that the government has just committed itself to minimizing the ant-farmers’ losses, and others saying that the government has wiped its hands clean of the whole affair, saying it has nothing to do with Yilishen (contrary to what many believe), and thus no responsibility to dig it or the people left desperate out of the hole they are in. Anyone reading from Shenyang who has a clearer idea of what’s going on..?
就是一个不靠谱的东西啊，老百姓啊……
[This is just totally not cool. The common people, aye....]
早几年看广告我就觉得是忽悠人 中国目前的保健品市场是架构在暴利与谎言的榨血机器 一边引诱那些被贫穷折磨的抬不起头看天张不开嘴喘气的低层人民掏空心血来购买发财的养殖品 一边以十数倍的本利差价卖给那些有病治不好于是不得不偏信广告虚假宣传的可怜国人
这个事件是中国无序而混乱的保健市场的揭示 如果政府不对此严加管制 还会有更多的百姓血泪空流 会有更多的群情激愤！
也许早就有了 只是我们的耳朵和眼睛都被蒙着
[When I first saw tv commercial a few years ago, I just thought they were pulling one over on people.....China's health supplement market at present is built on a blood-squeezing contraption of violence and lies. On one hand seducing those people on the bottom rungs so tortured by poverty they can't lift their heads even to look at the sky or gasp for a breath of air into digging dry their blood-and-tears-earned money to the cultivation product that's gonna make them rich, at the same time putting out false ads to market your product, selling it at ten times the original price to those poor people who it will never cure
This incident just reveals how disorderly and chaotic China's health supplement market is...if the government doesn't strengthen supervision, the blood and sweat of a whole lot more people is going to flow, and there will be even more mob fury!
Maybe there has been for a long time...only our ears and eyes have been sealed shut.]
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服了，连外国人都发言了，好啊，世界都知道了，好，不知道你人看没看见啊
[No way, even foreigners are onto this...great! The world knows, good. I didn't know you all would see this...]
各位都听好了，账号是政府封的。操他吗的政府害了我们，我们把共产党赶下台。吗了个B的，奥运会还开开他吗了个B啊，造反让世界都知道共产党他吗的不是人，操政府。不封我们就没事，朋友认识一位邮局领导说的是政府封账号的。吗了个狗娘奍的共产党。大家心齐造反。吗B
各位政府真他吗的不是动西啊，不要说这个事了，就现在的物价长的多厉害。房子那么贵，现在买房顶过去二套还多啊，老百姓叫房都能累死啊。工资那么低，以前房便宜都的好好买啊。老百姓的收入和生活不成正比啊。老百姓现在是敢怒不敢言啊。看吧2009年中国一定造反，中国逢9必乱。等着看好戏啊。操他吗的政府去吧。
不用说别的，印尼反华死了多少中国人啊，妇女死的最多，死的最惨啊，电视报了吗。就他吗的在网站能看到。网站共产党管不过来了。所以就没删啊。共产党狗日的，印尼大地震还他吗的捐钱。操了。中国人死的多惨啊，连个屁都不敢放。打倒共产党
我们把消息打到香港或台湾的新闻网站。叫他们把这事告诉全世界，他们有什么说话什么啊，中国的事，他们一直报道啊，不上网还不知道中国那么坏事啊，仗还有个香港和台湾啊
[Everyone listen up, the bank account has been closed by the government. F*** the government is really screwing us, we need to chase the CCP out of power. F***ing c****, my ass you're gonna be holding the Olympic games! We're gonna riot and let the world know that the CCP aren't human. F*** the government. If you hadn't closed the account we'd have been find. I have a friend who knows one post office manager, who says that the government shut down the account. F*** you, CCP, you were raised by dogs. Everyone has to stick together and rebel. $*(%$
Everyone, the government really sucks...and never mind this incident...the price of goods has gone up sharply. And housing is so expensive..people are buying second-hand flats now...the people are tired to death. Wages are so low...housing used to be cheap enough that buying one wasn't so bad. But people's wages are not keeping up with their cost of living. Now the people are enraged, they just don't dare say so. You'll see, in 2009, China will start rioting for sure....?....we'll just wait and watch the show. F*** the f****** government. The CCP can't keep up with controlling the internet. That's why these weren't deleted. CCP is an f****** dog, even f****** gave Indonesia money after the tsunami. F***. Chinese die miserably and you don't even hear a fart. Down with the CCP.
Let's get the news out to Hong Kong and Taiwan news websites. Let them tell this news to the world. They tell it as it is, and Chinese news, they'll definitely report. If you don't use the internet you'd never know how much bad stuff happens in China...at least we still have Hong Kong and Taiwan!]
各位都听好了，账号是政府封的。操他吗的政府害了我们，我们把共产党赶下台。吗了个B的，奥运会还开开他吗了个B啊，造反让世界都知道共产党他吗的不是人，操政府。不封我们就没事，朋友认识一位邮局领导说的是政府封账号的。吗了个狗娘奍的共产党。大家心齐造反。
[Everyone listen up, the bank account has been closed by the government. F*** the government is really screwing us, we need to chase the CCP out of power. F***ing c****, my ass you're gonna be holding the Olympic games! We're gonna riot and let the world know that the CCP aren't human. F*** the government. If you hadn't closed the account we'd have been find. I have a friend who knows one post office manager, who says that the government shut down the account. F*** you, CCP, you were raised by dogs. Everyone has to stick together and rebel.]
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我还没看清楚昨天今天的消息，有没有人能来补充？
还有，我抽这个机会提醒一下，大家以后拍什么类似照片视频等，值得考虑到国外网站备份一下，比如youtube，flickr，google的Picasa等。。
[I still haven't found out what happened yesterday and today, can anyone help out?
Also, I'll just take this opportunity to remind everyone, if you take any photos or video like that found here, it's worth considering saving a copy on an overseas website like YouTube, Flickr or Google's Picasa...]
哎，GCD向来都是这样的，典型的小心眼，什么消息都不让大家知道。大家忍它不是一天两天了。不过你说反就反啊，军队掌握在人家手里呢，现在不是上世纪初国民党那个时候了。就恨当年老蒋剿匪没剿干净啊
[Aye, the CPC has always been this way, classically overcautious, not letting anyone know anything that's going on. We've been putting up with this for more than just a day or two. But if you want to talk about rebelling, go right ahead. The army at least is under their control, it's not like early last century under the Kuomintang. Too bad when old Chang was slaughtering "bandits" he didn't take them all out.]
有人装B，欺骗善良人。
要拆穿他们，还是应该直接面对问题，组成专案组，直接调查内幕。建议网友自行组成专案组。网络封堵不用太担心，先用国外的网站好了。
[Someone's put on an act, and fooled innocent people.
If we're going to expose them, we might as well face the problem head-on, and form an independent investigation team to go investigate the inside story. Don't worry about things disappearing off the internet, just put them on overseas websites.]
大家齐心，现在在网上什么都收不到了．中央能不知道吗？这个事情不处理，奥运怎么开！我的ＱＱ群是：26365279大家一起讨论．
[Everyone stick together; you can't find anything on the internet about this now. Could the central government not possibly know? If they don't take care of this situation, how will they hold the Olympics! My QQ group is 26365279, everyone can go discuss there.]
既然说是非法集资，gov.早干什么去了？？
[Since this is illegal raising of funds we're talking about, where has the government been all this time??]
搞投资是不是自愿的？
政府是不是要对每一个企业负责？
是不是每个企业都不能破产？
政府是不是对所有投资破产行为都要负责？
非法集资有什么证据么？
东北sb多。果然不虚
[Is or is not the investment voluntary?
Is the government expected to be responsible for every single enterprise?
Is every enterprise not able to go bankrupt?
Is the government responsible for every investment that leads to bankruptcy?
What proof is there of illegal funds raising?
The northeast is full of idiots, so this hasn't been all in vain.]
John,are you chinese?
thank you for collecting these infomation and translating it into english.I’m really shocked.
Good luck to those farmers.
在中国，所谓的保健品基本上是骗人的，蚁力神倒是必然的，只是苦了那些养殖户。
[In China, so-called health supplements are all pretty much a fraud, and Yilishen is without a doubt. It's just tough for those ant farmers.]
November 22nd, 2007 at 3:30 am bchens:
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搞投资是不是自愿的？
政府是不是要对每一个企业负责？
是不是每个企业都不能破产？
政府是不是对所有投资破产行为都要负责？
非法集资有什么证据么？
东北sb多。果然不虚
中国正是多了你这种没人性却自以为是的东西 才乌烟瘴气
[November 22nd, 2007 at 3:30 am bchens #22 wrote:
Is or is not the investment voluntary?
Is the government expected to be responsible for every single enterprise?
Is every enterprise not able to go bankrupt?
Is the government responsible for every investment that leads to bankruptcy?
What proof is there of illegal funds raising?
The northeast is full of idiots, so this hasn’t been all in vain.
What China has too much of is inhumane, arrogant things like you, like so much pollution.]
这事不能整大了，真要整大了，咱们钱就泡汤了
This thing mustn’t be completely put right…if things are put too right, we won’t get our money back.
养户交的钱是养蚂蚁的保证金并不是投资，他们赚的只是劳务费，至于王凤友拿他这些钱做什么，养户怎么知道。
蚁力神从成立至今，历经八年了，这期间，不少非法投资集团都被政府相继取缔，前两年，辽宁省还开展了声势浩大的打击非法集资的活动，如果蚁力神是非法集资为什么他能逃脱打击？为什么？政府拿了蚁力神多少好处？
[The money the ant farmers put up to raise ants wasn't investment, it was a cash deposit; what they earned was only a fee for services rendered; as for what Wang Fengyou did with these monies, how would the farmers ever know?
Yilishen has been running up until now, eight years, and in this time, more than a few illegal investment groups were shut down by the government one after the other. Two years ago, the Liaoning government even made an impressive display of force in cracking down on illegal fund raising activities; if Yilishen was also one, why was it able to evade the crackdown? Why? How much benefit did the government get from Yilishen?]
Thanks John for reporting on this. (I want to write in Chinese but my Chinese software can’t work now.)
This scam and the comments above give me some thoughts that I would like to share. I think what we all really need is access to more information, open discussions and a free media so that we are more able to develop independent and critical thinking and make informed decisions about our lives, instead of believing in ideas and discourse propagated by mainstream media and authorities, thus blindly following the actions of the masses.
So, I certainly don’t think that overthrowing the current regime will necessarily solve the problem if we don’t change the socio-political system. When we engage with the authorities, we need to be very specific with what we want such as allowing the media, including internet media more freedom to carry out investigations and publish reports. It is only when the society is more informed and educated that people are less ignorant. Our education should not stop on the day we graduate from schools as it should continue throughout our lives. In such a society, scams like this will not last very long as it will be exposed by people with inside information through the free and independent media (the whistleblowers) who keeps the authorities in check and mitigates corruption. Therefore, this will make the society more harmonious, won’t it?
I hope that soon, the victims of this incident will be duly compensated and that laws be enacted to protect people from being exploited by such unsustainable business practices.
你会不会说人话？祝你全家 死 光光！
[Could you start talking with a little more decency? Here's to your whole family...exterminated!]
bchens我草你吗,东北人都是你爸
[bchens, f u, Northeasterners are your daddy]
Who’s fault is that? Definitely not the government’s.
Or else the FED and Whitehouse should wipe out the mess left by Enron and pay for the loss those share holders have suffered.
And here, QFT
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bchens:
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搞投资是不是自愿的？
政府是不是要对每一个企业负责？
是不是每个企业都不能破产？
政府是不是对所有投资破产行为都要负责？
非法集资有什么证据么？
东北sb多。果然不虚
Is or is not the investment voluntary?
Is the government expected to be responsible for every single enterprise?
Is every enterprise not able to go bankrupt?
Is the government responsible for every investment that leads to bankruptcy?
What proof is there of illegal funds raising?
The northeast is full of idiots, so this hasn’t been all in vain.
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这是发生在我们身边的事，中国ZF竟然用封杀、推托的方式来应付，这只能说是悲哀了！！
引用一句话：谁让你活在中国!!
[This is happening right in front of us, if the Chinese government only deletes blog posts and gives excuses as means of dealing with this, it's only going to be sorrow indeed!!]
We are not trying to overthrow the government, we just want to ask the government to give incentives to companies, but the government also helped companies do publicity, why companies come today, why not come out to the argument
Video files Address
http://www.56.com/p20/v_NDkwNDA3Mzc.html
http://www.ku6.com/show/3gN_VA3weZ28HIU8.html
so cool~~
http://www.ku6.com/show/3gN_VA3weZ28HIU8.html
http://www.56.com/p20/v_NDkwNDA3Mzc.html
政府也许不好，但也不能什么事都骂政府，都是当孙子当惯了养成的习惯。商业行为有风险，要学会自己承担。
[The government might be wrong, but you can't just go cursing them out for everything, this habit is as old as the day is long. Doing business brings risks; people need to learn how to take those on.]
The govement should have solved problems for citizens. But in fact they do not.On contrary, they put down us.All of us invested all the money,even they sold their houses.WHY? Because the govement gives the company Business License.We believe govement.But now we do not care the reason why the problem came. The govement shoule and must give citizens a way to live. Otherwise China will be laughed at by all the world. And there is no need and right to hold 2008 Olimpic Games!
SOS please help us!!!
为什么，各大搜索引擎都搜不到“蚁力神”啦？？？？？
[Why are all major search engines unable to find anything on "Yilishen"?????]
共同点：
数额巨大，两个案子的金额都差不多
两个案子均有很多弱势群体受害
主犯均跑路了
被诈骗的钱财已经被挥霍不少
两案的主犯均是黑白道混的不错
两案均是主犯跑路之后，国家机器才开始介入
不同点：
美国人的案子，能很快跨国抓捕和引渡;而中国的诈骗犯跑路，不仅多数无法被抓捕和引渡，还会被当作海外幸灾乐祸的工具。
美国人的案子，受害者是通过法律手段维护权利;而国内的案子，国家机器的公信已经荡然无存，老百姓的首选手段总是半暴力性质的示威和上访。
美国人的案子，围观者想到的总是如何惩处和如何退赔，中国人的案子，围观者总是将其视为一个政治事件而不是一个简单的经济事件。
中国人做事情就是爱遮遮掩掩，40亿就跑路的案子涉及不到多大的官，遮遮掩掩的结果就是败坏国家机器的公信，划算吗？
其他：
蚂蚁神的案子，跑路之前的经营是否违法不得而知，所以我就不攻击“法治”了。
互联网上关于国外诈骗案追逃和退赔的相关信息很少，查不到美国人是如何处理这种事件的措施，比如是否有国家赔偿？因此换个角度看，国人实际上对这种信息根本就不关心，反正随口就是一句“GC党该死”，之后该上访的上访，该看热闹的看热闹了。
另外关于国家赔偿的问题，这时候就不提“纳税人”的钱这个概念了？
我的几个观点：
德治是法制的基础，没有道德基础的法律，从立法环节开始就是一个牌坊。
国人的自身素质就决定了：中国只能“牧守”
国力是最重要的东西，国家的强大关系到每个国人的切身利益
遇到什么事情都骂两句党国发发牢骚是可以的，牢骚之后应该多想想，多看看。
宣传系统真的要动大手术了，党国在国内国外的形象和公信，已经剩不下什么了。
兴，百姓苦；亡，百姓苦。
俺家的老两口，以前也遇到过这种事情，看看我的ID就知道了。所以理解和同情的话也就不多说了。我记得当年也是不了了之。投资的事情，要谨慎。
不管哪个国家，越是穷人，钱越好骗。也许吧，知识真的就是力量。
1。来说蚁力神的人，别在这里骂东北人。
2。上面网友Safod提了几个好主意，在你保证不笑的情况下，我试试翻译：
这次诈骗而上面的留言让我想分享一些想法。我觉得我们都非常需要一些东西，就是更多信息通道，开放讨论和有媒体自由，所以以后我们更有有能力待着独立而有判断的思维，为了能够对我们的生活有有知识的决定。。。这都会比相信主流媒体和当局传播的想法与讨论范围，或者说盲目地跟着大众观点，会比这些好。
所以说，如果我们不改现在的社会和政治体制，我绝对不觉得推翻现在的政权一定会处理上面这种问题。在我们与当局交谈的时候，我们需要讲非常清楚我们要的是什么，比如给媒体——包括网络媒体——更多的自由空间来做深调查而发表报道。只能在我们社会更有知识和信息而受到更多的教育以后，无知的人才会越来越少。而我们的教育不应该在我们从学校毕业那天就停止，因为教育应该是一个一辈子不断积累的东西。在这么一个社会，这种诈骗不会继续很久。。。因为社会中自然会有那些通过自由和独立媒体（那些‘深喉’）的人来暴露相关现象，同时会制止住当局，减轻腐败。所以说，这样都会使社会更和谐，对吧。
我希望，在不久的将来，这件事的受害者会收到合理的赔偿，而有关的法律会实行，为了保护而避免人家被这种无法成立的营业手段上了当。
3。No TX, I’m not Chinese..
[Here I just translate Safod's comments seen further up and tell readers to lay off the Northeasterners.]
现在可是市场经济，买方卖方市场。投资失败难道还要政府买单吗，难道各位养蚂蚁就是一本万利，跟把钱扔进印钞厂一样。别啥事都怪政府，这事放美国，日本还不一样。
不是说东北下岗职工多么，还这么有钱。150亿啊，东北人都是款爷。
[We're now in a market economy, a market of buyers and sellers. When investments fail, why should the government pay the bill? As if every single ant farmer will make a huge turnaround, like they'd just put their money into a money printing factory. Don't go blaming the government for everything; if this happened in the USA or Japan it would be no different.
Aren't northeasterners all supposed to be unemployed and out of work? Yet they have all that money. Fifteen billion? Northeasterners are all bling sharks.]
政府有不可推卸的责任！
[The government has undeniable responsibility!]
ZF最终得给个说法,他不能老这样控制啊.明年2008了,也不能让外过人耻笑我们啊?我们一起想对策，要把我们的血汗钱找回来！
[The government will have to do something sooner or later, it can't run keep on running things like this! Next year is the Olympics, we can't let foreigners come mock us! We have to think of a solution together, to get our blood-and-tears money back!]
毛主席说：“我们这个国家，要好好掌握，好好认识，研究这个问题，要承认阶级长期存在，承认阶级与阶级斗争，反动阶级可能复辟。要提高警惕，要好好教育青年人、教育干部、教育群众、教育中层和基层干部，老干部也要研究、教育。不然，我们这样的国家，还会走向反面。走向反面也没有什么要紧，还要来一个否定之否定，之后又会走向反面，如果我们的儿子一代搞修正主义走向反面，虽然名为社会主义，实际是为资本主义，我们的孙子肯定会起来反对的，推翻他们的老子，因为群众不满意，所以，我们从现在起，就必须年年讲，月月讲，天天讲，开大会讲，开党代会讲，开全会讲，开一次会就讲一次，使我们对这个问题，有一条比较清醒的马克思列宁主义的路线。”
评论: 当我们面对今天社会现实中的贪污腐败、假冒伪劣、坑蒙拐骗、卖淫嫖娼、蜕化变质、吸毒贩毒、豆腐渣工程等等不良现象的泛滥，再看看人类唯一的救星、伟大领袖毛主席，他老人家当初写下的这份具足远见卓识的法宝，把人心的作用剖析的是多么的淋漓尽致，希望大家读上十遍百遍用心去看，咱们再去体悟“救星”二字的真谛！
—— 热爱毛主席的人
[A Mao Zedong quote is given above.]
挣了钱没有人找政府说要捐款的，亏了钱要找政府那可是血汗钱啊…人不为己天诛地灭，因为贪婪因为钱因为利润，所以才这样，还没有办法承担后果
[People don't earn money just to donate it to the government, but this is hard-earned money! People aren't predestined to eternal damnation, it's because of corruption, because of money, and because of profit that they end up so, unable to deal with the consequences.]
可惜啊，蒋公当年剿匪不力，遗祸百年啊！
[It's too bad that General Chang didn't try a little harder back when he was killing bandits...a hundred years of calamity!]
I am Shenyanger. I ever heard of the Yilishen company and their ‘business’ at least three years ago. When we together talked about it at that time, I remember so clearly today, I and persons around me believed that is just a trap and thought authorities should resovle it immediatly. But never…
John, thanks for translating my comment.
I understand that there seems to be different perspectives of the story but I feel that people deserve to know what really went wrong in this incident. Suppressing information, blocking websites and not reporting it on mainstream media won’t make people learn from this incident, especially people with no access to internet and/or are illiterate. Few years later, this will slowly fade from people’s memories and history may repeat itself again.
Undeniably, people in other countries have also been cheated but at least, the media is able to report on it to increase people’s awareness. Here, we only have a few channels to turn to so I’m worried that there are millions of Chinese out there who are still kept in the dark.
China = Hell
[...] Global Voices Online 关于蚁力神的报道。 [...]
无话可说
[I'm speechless.]
Google在这种事件中充当什么呢？屏蔽了所有消息，保住了自己，却害死了无法知道真相的穷苦百姓。还有美国的思科，这就是你们美国的公司么？我们中国人在苟延残喘，美国人为了自己的利益在给它们做帮凶。
[What role has Google played in all this? It's screening all information, keeping it for itself, and hurting the poor, suffering common folk with no way of finding out the truth. There's also America's Cisco, doesn't that belong to you Americans? Us Chinese are here scraping out an existence, and Americans are acting as Their accomplices, just for profit.]
别乱埋怨Google。
Google只有在google.cn的部分给屏蔽了。你用真正的google.com是能搜的。
[Don't go complaining about Google
Google only screens results on Google.cn. If you use Google.com proper you can find what you want.]
……….
政府的失职我觉得在于长期对保健品市场缺乏有效的监管。早就应该整顿了。老百姓要是稍微有点科普知识，也不至于上这样的当了。
[Where I think the government has failed in its duty is in long-term lack of effective supervision of the health supplement industry. This should have been rectified long ago. If the people just had a little more common scientific knowledge, they at least wouldn't get fleeced so badly as this.]
最新消息！！！！
政府不承认蚁力神属于非法集资，政府也不会赔给养户们一分钱，在沈阳的养户们白天在，晚上也都各自回家了，各地也都在积极安抚养户。
[The latest news!!!!
The government will not admit that Yilishen qualifies as illegal financing, and the government will not compensate the farmers for even a cent. The ant farmers in Shenyang were out during the day, but everyone went home at night. All areas are working overtime to appease the farmers.]
返款吧，没有饭吃了，辽宁大乱了！
[Pay us back, we have nothing to eat. Liaoning is too messed up!]
来自沈阳最新线报：最近几日养户于警察发生过冲突，双方均有受伤的，在示威的养护中有便衣，发现带头的立刻抓捕，具现场示威者亲眼所见，一名大连女子拿话筒喊话后，立刻被10多名便衣警察殴打，然后抓进警车。由于有警察和养户动手后，被记住了警号。因此第二天所有警察警号均被拿下，市委秘书长也在车内发表讲话，说政府不会承担养户的损失，目前从各省市去往沈阳的养户还有很多，但是乘坐大客的都已经被堵劫，各地派出所也已接到上级命令，重点看护本辖区内的蚁力神养户，社区在进行积极登记，为损失大的养户备案，做为边缘低保户。政府不会赔偿养户一分钱的，也不会承认王奉友属于非法集资，允许蚁力神破产。在沈养户目前白天在，晚上基本在天玺大厦内，估计时间不会长了，其实政府的责任到最后也就是个监管不利，追究某些人的责任而已，十七大刚开完，某位领导已经顺利上任大家难道不知道？前前后后的这些事情我觉得广大养户应该能想明白吧。弃谁保谁？再明显不过。有些话不想说的太直白了，王奉友不会有任何事情的，企业可以合法宣布破产，破产后就那些破玩意你们可以肆意瓜分又能有什么？南方某市的一些地产，沈阳五里河人家承包的，北京奥运会人家捐款。。。。。。！细情养户们不会知道的。相反王奉友破产后依然会丰衣足食，只不过不会再显山露水而已了。最后说一句，政府只会承担些监管不利的责任，有些养户赚了，有些养户赔了，说来说去自己想想不就是在赌么？我不想得罪广大养户，其实我也是个受害者也不是不想和广大养户站在一条阵线上，只是奉劝广大养户要有个平和心态。敢于承认，敢于放弃，保重身体！本人损失将近20万，也很心痛，但是我没有倒下，相反我突然觉得这对我来说也许是件好事了。也许我疯了！！愿广大养户能坦然面对这一切吧！
The latest inside scoop: ant farmers have been clashing with police over the last few days, and people have been hurt on both sides. Undercovers are among the protesting farmers, who arrest organizers as soon as they spot them. According to witnesses from the scene, one girl from Dalian started talking on a megaphone, and immediately ten undercover police started beating her, then threw her in the police van. Because police started laying hands on the farmers, their badge numbers were being recorded. Then the next day all the police had taken their number badges off their shirts. Even the secretary of the municipal Party committee came in a car and made a speech, saying that the government would not take responsibility for the ant farmers’ losses. Currently many farmers from other provinces and cities are all coming to Shenyang, but everyone coming in on coach has been rounded up, and police stations everywhere have received orders from their higher-ups to keep extra careful eyes on their local ant farmers, and to carry out registration efforts in every neighborhood, making files on all farmers with great losses, to act as border protection. The government won’t pay the ant farmers a single penny in compensation, and won’t admit that Wang Fengyou was into illegal financing, thus allowing Yilishen to go bankrupt. At present the ant farmers are in Shenyang by day, inside the Tianxi Tower by night; I guess it won’t go on like this for long…..my own losses are close to 200,000 RMB, it’s painful for me too. But I haven’t collapsed. On the contrary I suddenly feel this might just be of some good to me. But then I might have gone nuts!! I hope all ant farmers are able to keep calm in dealing with it all!
[...] 牛博网的众多写手都在关注这个事情，冯三七在"全球之声"写了一篇内容丰富的中英文对译的详细报道，我看了一下，官方的态度是非常不错的，当官的没有极端分子们想像的那么傻： [...]
幕后推手和原因可能永远像迷一样难以得知
有能耐的还是去他国吧 那里更mz！
[The guiding hand and reasons behind all this might remain a riddle forever
those who can should leave for other countries, where things are more democratic!]
[...] Web site Global Voices has been chronicling the closure and its aftermath. Several of the deleted blog posts (both in Chinese and English [...]
[...] 看这里 SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: “看个网页”, url: “http://www.whoistop.com/look-at-a-web-page.html” }); [...]
大家再这么整下去没有意义。起来！不愿做奴隶的人们！上北京去！找国家领导人直接对话儿去！辽宁的领导解决不了，也解决不好这个问题！！！
[If everyone keeps going on like this nothing is going to change. Rise up! Don't be willing to be a slave! Get to Beijing! Seek out the national leaders and speak to them face-to-face! Liaoning's leaders can't fix this, and wouldn't fix it well even if they could!!!]
我不是养户,但也想发表一下看法.客观一些的看法.
“天下没有免费的午餐”
“不要坐着等天上掉馅饼,如果有,一定是陷阱”
“黄梁美梦–讲一个人特别贪图享受,好逸恶劳,整天想着发财.有天做饭的时间他睡了一觉,梦中他经历了从贫穷到富贵到贫穷的起伏波折.醒了以后感悟到了人生的得与失.也明白了不劳动等着财富从天上来是不可能的事.”
第一句是外国名言.后两个是土生土长的中国俗语和小典故.
在说这种集资模式.想必养护们心里也应该清楚是怎么个循环过程吧.蚂蚁是不能生钱的.树生钱也只是幌子.一例一例的暴光.养护们都没看到过么.营口盘锦YLS骗钱,前几年的事吧.YLS站出来说不是他们干的你们就信了?不会吧?
再讲法律.集资是合法的.只有当资金周转链断掉了才算非法集资.这是个法律漏洞.外国政府对集资的态度也大多保持监督.咱们国家,不用说了.其实也不光咱们国家.哪个国家的官员还不收受点贿赂啊.给你发出来的新闻都有他们屏蔽的一面.就好像我们电视里看到的国外的街道永远是那么干净一样.实际上有人类生存的地方就有脏乱差的地方.所以信息的封锁也是必然的.毕竟家丑不可外扬.
吸取教训吧.做了一个黄粱美梦还没醒的话也别接着做另一个了.政府不会拿钱出来赔老百姓的.如果这样做了等于他们认错等于他们承认跟YLS有勾结了.
[I’m not an ant farmer, but I would also like to express some views. Some more objective views.
“There’s no such thing as a free lunch”
“Don’t just sit waiting for a pie to fall from the sky; if one falls, it’s gonna lay you flat”
“Fool’s Paradise—that’s about this guy who lusts after mirth, avoids hard work, thinking all day of striking it rich. One day while he’s cooking he falls asleep, dreaming about his rise from rags to riches and back to rags again. When he wakes up he’s aware of all he’s gained and lost in life. He also understands that to not put in the work and just wait day in and out to strike it rich is just impossible.”
The first line is a foreign motto. The following two are from classic homegrown Chinese tales.
Back to this kind of illegal financing method. I’m pretty sure the farmers were pretty clear on how this cycle functioned. Ants don’t give birth to money, just like money doesn’t grow on trees. Example after example have proven this. Or haven’t the farmers seen any of this? The Yingkou Yilishen scam, wasn’t that just a few years ago? When Yilishen stood up and said it had nothing to do with them, did you believe them? Surely not?
Back to the law. Financing is legal. It’s only illegal if the cash turnover stops. This is a legal loophole. Foreign governments’ attitudes toward financing has for the most part managed to maintain supervision. But our government? Don’t even start. And actually, it’s not just our government. Which country’s officials don’t get a little kickback here and there? Then the news they put out they partially filter before it gets to us. Just like when we see foreign streets on TV, always clean as can be. When in fact any place in which humans live is going to have its dirty, messy and run-down areas. So that’s why information censorship is inevitable. After all, a dirty home is not something to broadcast in public.
So draw a lesson from this. Don’t go being the fool still sleeping in paradise and expect something else. The government isn’t going to compensate those people. If they did it’d be like admitting that they have a hand in Yilishen.
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