if you behave well, you’ll be treated well.

Or is it too much for your brain?

Pei,

I admire your patience and courage to try to reason with the unreasonable.

You HAVE to realize the Koreans’ need to create a fancy history to bette suit their self-proclaimed economic success, which I doubt. They need to justify the Korean people is the most superior race in the world. Once you realize this point, you would find out how rediculous it was for you to try to even discuss with them.

I would say forget about it.

khakiandbeige, while you are at it, why don’t you tell us how Jesus Christ, son of Gautama Buddha , founded Islam and Shinto in New York City in 500 BC. You seem to be very creative when it comes to history.

All of this to show you didn’t lie about Post #46? What does your Thomas Jefferson Bible-ish version of Korean History has to do with you circulating a nasty internet hoax(not even a good one at that)? Oh yeah, it fully illistrate your own insecurities about your background and culture.

OK, let the sparks fly! :-)

In the same vein, well sort of, take a look at these two hilarious videos (from the British television program “Goodness, Gracious, Me”:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HJzy3WSYFM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvuocUXvxlI

One of the subtribes of the Koguryo Kingdom, the Chins (Nuchens or Jurchens in Chinese) from the old Korean Palhae territory, rose again in the middle of the 17th century ; called themselves Manchus; created the Ching dynasty; occupied all of Manchuria, China, Tibet, Turkistan, Mongolia, Vietnam, and Burma; and created and ruled one of the largest empires the world has ever known, continuing until 1911.”

While ethnically Korean-origin Manchus were ruling class, Chinese natives were subjects of Manchus. The Korean influence in China is evidenced in many ways through artifacts & historical sites. This is one of the main reasons why China started to claim Koguryo, which influenced China the most, as Chinese history.

China has acknowledged Koguryo as Korean kingdom until 1986. Why does it claim its allegiance to it all of sudden?

Modern China (PRC) is a multi-ethnic, multi-cultural country with 56 ethnic minorities. The majorities are Han Chinese constituting about 92% of its population.
Han Chinese trace their ancestry back to the Huaxia people, who lived along the Yellow River in northern China.

Chinese records give no clear answers as to how or from where these people came to live in the region. The most that can be said with certainty today is that Chinese annals are silent on the question.
Chinese don’t even know exactly when and how the Hanja( or Hanji in Chinese) character was developed.

On the other hand, Korea maintained very clear ancestral lineage & cultural heritage.
Anyone who wants to delve into this matter further will find the truth.

The warlike horseriders who moved into Manchuria in several waves created two major nations. One nation that was created in the west and central regions of present-day Manchuria was called Puyo. The Puyo people had high level of civilization and practiced sophisticated agriculture in fertile farmlands. It is believed that Puyo nation was ruled by clan named Han (Korean Han, no relation to Chinese Han Empire). These Puyo people moved southward into Korean Peninsula and created Three Kingdoms; later their descendants created the four Korean kingdoms of Koguryo, Paekche, Silla and Kaya in the 1st century BC.

The S. Koreans in the 20th century are essentially the descendants of the Puyo horseriders. A early as the 5th century BC, Puyo people were using iron tools. From the Kaya and later Paekche Kingdoms of the Koreans Peninsula, several waves of migration took place into the Japanese islands from 200BC to 700 BC.

At about the same time, another large tribal movement similar to that of the Puyo took place, entering southwestern Manchuria and northeastern Korean peninsula. These people who called themselves Chin (Jins), and were called Nuchens (Jurchens) by China rose to create some of the mightiest empires in history, including the Chin and Ching empires, which ruled most of East Asia until 1911. Present-day North Koreans descended from a combination of Puyo and Chin peoples. (continued)

The ancestral beginning of Koreans can be traced back to the north-central regions of northern Asia continent between the Ural and Altaic Mountain regions. The Korean language is a branch of the Ural –Altaic language group, which includes Korean, Mongolian, Manchurian, Japanese, Turkish, Hungarian and Finnish. These languages do not employ tones, as do Chinese, Vietnamese and Thai.

The north-central and northeastern tribes of Asia who spoke similar languages also had similar racial and cultural beginnings. They were nomadic and excellent fighters, skilled in cavalry warfare. One of these large groups were Koreans.
These ancient Koreans were called different names by different people. Koreans themselves called their own tribes Hans, Puyos, Koguryos, Koryos, and later Chins( Nuchens or Jurchens in Chinese) and Manchus. The Chinese called them Tungus, a derogatory description of their Eastern neighbors, just as they called the Westerners who went to China in 19th century Western barbarians.

Whatever they were called, they had the same ancestry and settled in Manchuria and the Korean Peninsula, and at the latest period to the Japanese islands. The Chinese feared these warlike, swiftly moving horseriders greatly, as attested by the existence of the Great Wall of China. This Chinese fear was justified, as over several millennia, China lost its nationhood many times over as a result of invasion by these northern nations.
Ancient Chinese history books recorded that a large tribal group had been moving from northwest of the Chinese border to northeast of China and Manchuria over several centuries.

This eastward migration of a loosely organized federation of Korean tribes took many centuries. These easternmost tribes spoke the same language and had the same customs and temperament. They created the great empires of Khitan, Chin, Koguryo and Ching of Manchus in East Asia. Their physical features had more Caucasian characteristics than those of other Asian races. Archeologists have discovered that Korean settlers who moved into the Japanese islands were on average several inches taller with higher forehead bones.

Even as late as the 19th century, American missionaries noted that of all Asians, Korans were closest to Caucasians in their physical features with lighter skin color, high forehead, oval facial features and taller stature than other East Asian people on average. The Korean language is closest to the Turkish language and similar to Hungarians and Finnish. It is because Koreans originated from the region where Caucasian and Asian races intersected and became mixed in the northwestern Asian continent near present-day Kazakhstan, west of Mongolia and north of Xinjian, China. (continued)

“During the last decade or so, several archeological excavations have shed new light on the prehistoric society of Korea. The habitation of early man in Korea started as early as five hundred thousand years ago.
Previously, scholars believed that the bronze Age in Korea began around the 15th century B.C, which was about 3,5oo years ago.

The discovery made near PyongYang( N. Korea) in 1993 appears to set the date back to at least 5,011 years ago. Probably Korean bronze age began even before that date. The bronze crown and bones discovered in a ruler’s limestone tomb, believed to be that of Tangun, the founder of Korean kingdom (Old Chosun), were radiocarbon-dated to circa 3018 BC.

The Neolithic and Bronze Age Korean culture were related to the cultures of Ural-Altaic regions. This was proved by the discovery of similar pottery and artifacts in the region. The relationship of the people in the north-central region of Asia and the Korean Peninsula and Manchuria of today were also closely interwoven through similarity of languages.

The Altaic people in the northwest of modern China moved into Manchuria and the Korean Peninsula around 7000 years ago. They drove the original natives to Sakhalin Island, Kamchatka and the Arctic, and possibly onto the northern Japanese islands.

By 5000 to 4000 BC, the new Korean settlers of the eastern region of the Asian continent had become well established. They engaged in farming, wore woven clothes, and used bronze tools & weapons. They called themselves Puyo and Chin. These two Korean branches of the Korean nation spoke the same language and shared the same culture & customs. For several thousand years, they jointly created the ancient united Korean kingdom of Choson (Old Choson). The Chinese called them Tungu(s) or Tungi.

1. “The English historian Arnold Toynbee, probably the most prominent historian of the world in the 20th century, classified the Korean civilization as one of the most advanced of all time, in his six-volume A Study of History, while analyzing the 24 of the world’s civilizations.

It was an understatement, because Korea has not had one, but four, brilliant golden ages. Each of these has far surpassed the achievements of her neighbors, China and Japan, in arts, technology, and science, especially during the last millennium. In many fields at given ages, Korea was ahead of even Europe by several centuries.

Korea has consistently been ahead of Japan by at least several centuries except during the last 150 years. In the 1850s, Japan made contact with the West, about thirty years earlier than Korea.

When Japan occupied Korea against the will of its people, the Japanese government imposed the total black out of all Korean publications. Any information about Korea, including the historical facts, could come only through the Japanese sources.”

Due to Japanese deliberate distortion of Korean history and Chinese self-centered, pro-Chinese view of its history, many people in the world have not received the correct information about Korea’s history.

It is Korea’s duty to make an effort to bring correction & recognition for its own history.

http://books.google.ca/books?hl=en&id=XrZQs-6KswMC&dq=Korea+and+East+Asia+by+Kenneth+B.+Lee&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=TLwRm5vl02&sig=vkF8E5IRVpxXI_cXmn6G_kwMVEQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA4,M1

S. Korea as the home of multi-national companies like Samsung, LG, Hyundai, Kia, S. Korea is the biggest investor in China.

LG took the initiative in investing in China in Huizhou, Guangdong province, in 1993, with an initial investment of $3.5 million. Now the factory producing digital products, such as AudioHiFi, CDRom and DVDRom, provides about 10,000 jobs for locals.

South Korea’s direct investment accounted for the largest portion of foreign direct investment in China in 07 as companies, such as POSCO( the world’s biggest steel manufacturer), and LG Electronics Inc., relocated plants to China for cheap labor and manufacturing costs, helping to build China’s infrastructure & eco-friendly facilities.
South Korea’s direct investment in China amounted to US$10.1 billion in 2005, or 26.2 percent of the total foreign direct investment last year, the Bank of Korea said in its report on international investment data for 2005.

BEIJING – At Korea City, on the top floor of the Xidan Shopping Center, a warren of tiny shops sell hip-hop clothes, movies, music, cosmetics and other offerings in the South Korean style.

“We know that the products at Korea City are made in China,” said Wang Ying, 28, who works for the local branch of an American company. “But to many young people, ‘Korea’ stands for fashionable or stylish. So they copy the Korean style.”

From clothes to hairstyle, music to television dramas, South Korea has been defining the tastes of many Chinese and other Asians for the past half decade. As part of what the Chinese call the Korean Wave of pop culture, a television drama about a royal cook, “The Jewel in the Palace,” is garnering record ratings throughout Asia, and Rain, a 23-year-old singer from Seoul, drew more than 40,000 fans to a sold-out concert at a sports stadium here in October.

But South Korea’s “soft power” also extends to the material and spiritual spheres. Samsung’s cellphones and televisions are symbols of a coveted consumerism for many Chinese. Christianity, in the evangelical form championed by Korean missionaries deployed throughout China, is finding Chinese converts despite Beijing’s efforts to rein in the spread of the religion. South Korea acts as a filter for Western values, experts say, making them more palatable to Chinese and other Asians.
Historically, Christianity made little headway in East Asia, except in South Korea, whose population is now about 30 percent Christian and whose overseas missionary movement is the world’s second largest after the United States.

Today, in China, South Korean missionaries are bringing Christianity with an Asian face. South Korean movies and dramas about urban professionals in Seoul, though not overtly political, present images of modern lives centering on individual happiness and sophisticated consumerism.