Khasru

Please let us know when you have completed your new site so that we can add it to the growing list of Bangladesh Genocide Denial bodies/studies/websites that are popping up like poisonous mushrooms.

I hope you are cogniscant of the fact that a lot of it seems to be funded by old school US politicians from the 1970s who, along with Nixon and Kissinger at the time, managed to get their hands bloody by subverting the channels to find justice for the perpetrators of the 1971 Genocide in East Pakistan. (They favoured Pakistan over India, because they feared a Soviet-influecned threat in the region). These old-school exponents of US real-politic are now called NeoConservatives. Its the old pretext of historical revision all over again and you’ve fallen into the contradictory trap of protesting Neocon actions in Iraq but supporting them in Bangladesh/East-Pakistan. And I don’t think “youth” is a good enough defence of ignorance.

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Sid:
lcarsnet you are not SID. I am Sid. I want the war criminals of 1971 brought to justice and I want a removal of religion from politics. To some this makes me both old and trendy. I think its common sense.

You are a silly sockpuppet, an apologist and a Bengali Quisling. You’re not a denier because in order to deny you would need to know what it is you’re denying. You are an ignoramus; you’re voluble even though you’re unfamiliar with the history of 1971.

In the absence of the continuity of Abul Hashems Khilafatur Rabbani (crack open a book yourself) and in the light of the murder, denial of space to, denigration and mean humiliation of religious thinking scholarly and active types and classes… Bangladesh is suffering a drought.

you seem to like the drought, gives you a sense of identity, glory and what not. justifies and feeds you your persecution complex and your head in the mud 71 year zeroism.

As of today, fugstar is a goodname-ist not an Islamist anymore. His “Islam” goes only as far as defending others related to the “Islamist” scene and their good name. But a real-life takfir…. tsk tsk, the blogger was never in danger anyway.

“Words hurt only my side.”

As for silence:

1) Do you from Borneo?
2) Do you go and mouth off on Borneo-related blogs consistently?
3) Do you speak up ONLY when tree-cutters are being taken to task?

My problem isn’t silence fugstar, but selective silence and selective speech. Are you really this thick that I had to spell it out for you?

Glad you love this thread. Because anyone reading it sees only your continual humiliation.

I know a good picture framer you could use. ;-)

As for the second para addressed to me, I don’t have the slightest clue what you’re banging on about. Except the last sentence:
JI is not a party that id particularly like to join. However if id grown up in BD maybe id have checked them out for a while.

Yeah, you said that about the Hizbut Tahrir as well. Not grown up in Bangladesh still doesn’t stopped you from aplogising for the clerical fascists who lead Jamaati Islami or to deny the genocide that they were complicit in 1971, or to adopt the same weasel words they use to smokescreen their culpability. If you had grown up in Bangladesh, you might have become aware of the culture of crimes and intimidation that their student wing Shibir committed grew notorious for, which would no doubt have been embraced but apologised with the language of ummah victimhood and moral equivalence that we have become all too familiar with.

I’m glad to hear my neologisms have forced you to crack open a dictionary. But you don’t need a spell-checker as much as you need a convoluted-meaningless-bullshit-checker.

Sid,
Its not enough, it only impresses those who ‘think’ like you and so held your views anyway. It is telling though. Congratulations upon opening a dictionary. I think the battle for righteousness is all yours.

The political inheritence of say… the bengali muslim is a mixed endowment. Its neat to find a few golden coins in amongst it however (Abul Hashem, Suhrawardy, Syed Amir Ali, Fazlul Huq, Bhashani) even if a golden thread is not so apparent. I dont assign the bengal muslim league much glory personally, they were unwilling to give people coming over from west bengal and assam any space. JI is not a party that id particularly like to join. However if id grown up in BD maybe id have checked them out for a while.

DS
Hannan shah is the BNP brigadier fella, I for one am not part of the righteous indignation brigade that play for position for its own sake. Shah Abdul Hannan’s good name was being assaulted. I dont think yours is.

meanwhile i shall continue my complicit silence over the ravaging of the rainforests of borneo as being outed as a hippy is ever so last century.

Ahhh, fine. Forget complicit silence ok? You yourself ask me how ELcarsnet can distinguish between me and an ordinary AL-supporter. The problem is that YOU can, but you don’t take the trouble to teach him. What’s worse, there isn’t the slightest bitof discomfort from you at his idiotic assertions that I must be a Hindu/non-Muslim for advocating a political position. THAT is the essence of real takfir, and yet you remain silent while cackling on abt Hannan Shah’s “secular takfir”.

I know at least a dozen very pious Muslims whose views don’t always align with mine who nevertheless would have condemned ELcarsnet for that and/or stopped talking right there and then. Sadly, you are not amongst them. That was all. No complicity there, just simple blindness to real takfir as opposed to secular takfir. Yet, you are an “Islamist” and I’m somehow in a “secular” camp. Gimme a break!

The picture of you yawning is fitting. N

*wonders if this is all that the children of the revolution are capable of…*

i think i’m clear on my position of distrusting the motivations and the data of those who bring this issue up in the way that they do.

And I think Bangladeshis, in general judging from their actions, have made clear their position about distrusting the motivations and the honesty of the Jamaati Islami, their attempts to launder their history, and their taqiyya-politics.

One thing thats sad is how you and folks such as yourself use titbits of information. Its quite telling. When i think of taqiyya i think of how beleivers have lived in situations where the authorities would go inquisitorial on them if they knew of their religious conviction. Is it necessary to abuse that meaning, then you really mean something else, or does it just make you feel more authentic.

i think i’m clear on my position of distrusting the motivations and the data of those who bring this issue up in the way that they do.

I have a giant personal question set about the matter, questions which are my own, but not up for exploration with all this twisted political charge.