Comments on: Swahili Blogosphere: Debating race and national identity http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/09/11/swahili-blogosphere-debating-race-and-national-identity/ The world is talking. Are you listening? Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:49:29 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Mwangi-the Displaced African http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/09/11/swahili-blogosphere-debating-race-and-national-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-1410522 Mwangi-the Displaced African Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:18:29 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/09/11/swahili-blogosphere-debating-race-and-national-identity/#comment-1410522 I think at the core this outrage is occurring for the same reasons there was an outcry over the white blogger who made amusing comments about a Tanzanian woman: the general sense in the black world that we are less than and inferior to other races. I think until we either rise above this issue or restore balance and equality to our race, issues such as this will keep popping up. My two cents I think at the core this outrage is occurring for the same reasons there was an outcry over the white blogger who made amusing comments about a Tanzanian woman: the general sense in the black world that we are less than and inferior to other races. I think until we either rise above this issue or restore balance and equality to our race, issues such as this will keep popping up.

My two cents

]]> By: kdlbm300 http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/09/11/swahili-blogosphere-debating-race-and-national-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-1409369 kdlbm300 Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:29:18 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/09/11/swahili-blogosphere-debating-race-and-national-identity/#comment-1409369 I am proud of some of the comments here. It is time that Africans. And when I say Africans, I mean black people all over the world, wake up and realise that racism is still as alive today as it has always been. It is all well and good to say this INDIAN is Tanzanian but if any one of you were born and raised in India you would NEVER be considered Indian by ANY of its people. Why is it that where ever you go on this globe black people are always looked at as ugly, stupid and worthless? One of the reasons we black Africans are so far behind other races is that we are always willing to accept others that hate and disrespect us. It’s as if we believe we are the lowest, so when non black Africans associate with us, even in the smallest ways, we are only too happy to accept them. I say NO. The winner should of represented REAL black Tanzanian beauty. You will NEVER see a black woman win Miss World in England and if she ever does, you can be sure she will be mixed raced and look almost white. I genuinely believe money exchanged hands when it came to this INDIAN winning. Indians have more than a few pounds to throw around and they are always looking to promote themselves….yes even in Tanzania. My dream is for Africans of all nationalities to wake up and start asserting themselves and I am glad some here realise this! I am proud of some of the comments here.

It is time that Africans. And when I say Africans, I mean black people all over the world, wake up and realise that racism is still as alive today as it has always been.

It is all well and good to say this INDIAN is Tanzanian but if any one of you were born and raised in India you would NEVER be considered Indian by ANY of its people.

Why is it that where ever you go on this globe black people are always looked at as ugly, stupid and worthless?

One of the reasons we black Africans are so far behind other races is that we are always willing to accept others that hate and disrespect us. It’s as if we believe we are the lowest, so when non black Africans associate with us, even in the smallest ways, we are only too happy to accept them.

I say NO.

The winner should of represented REAL black Tanzanian beauty. You will NEVER see a black woman win Miss World in England and if she ever does, you can be sure she will be mixed raced and look almost white.

I genuinely believe money exchanged hands when it came to this INDIAN winning. Indians have more than a few pounds to throw around and they are always looking to promote themselves….yes even in Tanzania.

My dream is for Africans of all nationalities to wake up and start asserting themselves and I am glad some here realise this!

]]> By: franklin http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/09/11/swahili-blogosphere-debating-race-and-national-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-1209210 franklin Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:31:08 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/09/11/swahili-blogosphere-debating-race-and-national-identity/#comment-1209210 i can't believe this the born person of a certain area even if he/she is a foreigner he is identified as a born of that area now this comes that she claims that she is a tanzanian then let it be colour doesn't matter this is not the world of apartheidic so think of it.if you give so much support then she will represent well but if you think that you will archieve forget it this is not the way of archieving.i think doing that is not fair to her i can’t believe this the born person of a certain area even if he/she is a foreigner he is identified as a born of that area now this comes that she claims that she is a tanzanian then let it be colour doesn’t matter this is not the world of apartheidic so think of it.if you give so much support then she will represent well but if you think that you will archieve forget it this is not the way of archieving.i think doing that is not fair to her

]]> By: connie mathew http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/09/11/swahili-blogosphere-debating-race-and-national-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-1198309 connie mathew Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:35:24 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/09/11/swahili-blogosphere-debating-race-and-national-identity/#comment-1198309 mimi nakubali kwa moyo mmoja miss tanzania wetu tuliomchagua kwani watanzania wangapi tumewachagua wametuaibisha sana mambo wanaoyanya hayatamanishi afadhali huyo mhindi amelelewa katika maadili anaweza fanya mambo mazuri zaidi tena kama ikiwezekana next year apwe mwarabu kabisa tumewachoka wabongo wetu hawana lolote zaidi ya aibu mimi nakubali kwa moyo mmoja miss tanzania wetu tuliomchagua kwani watanzania wangapi tumewachagua wametuaibisha sana mambo wanaoyanya hayatamanishi afadhali huyo mhindi amelelewa katika maadili anaweza fanya mambo mazuri zaidi tena kama ikiwezekana next year apwe mwarabu kabisa tumewachoka wabongo wetu hawana lolote zaidi ya aibu

]]> By: Yong Wong http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/09/11/swahili-blogosphere-debating-race-and-national-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-1198200 Yong Wong Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:56:51 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/09/11/swahili-blogosphere-debating-race-and-national-identity/#comment-1198200 Why do you people don’t understand? Regardless of her color or origin she is a Tanzanian she has all the right just like “you” who still think you are Tanzanian because of your color, I’m absolutely shocked that we still have ignorant people! Why do you people don’t understand? Regardless of her color or origin she is a Tanzanian she has all the right just like “you” who still think you are Tanzanian because of your color, I’m absolutely shocked that we still have ignorant people!

]]> By: mtukwao http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/09/11/swahili-blogosphere-debating-race-and-national-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-1197925 mtukwao Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:55:51 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/09/11/swahili-blogosphere-debating-race-and-national-identity/#comment-1197925 It is not racism at all, it something African that becomes the context of the whole thing, thats why people, including me, do not think Richa should have been crowned Miss Tanzania. She is a totally misrepresentation of the Tanzania as a society. Black people have there perceptions of beauty which is not universal, and so are the other races. For example those that are usually crowned miss universe, most of them to me are just another girl! Once again, its not racism, the way I see it! It is not racism at all, it something African that becomes the context of the whole thing, thats why people, including me, do not think Richa should have been crowned Miss Tanzania. She is a totally misrepresentation of the Tanzania as a society. Black people have there perceptions of beauty which is not universal, and so are the other races. For example those that are usually crowned miss universe, most of them to me are just another girl!
Once again, its not racism, the way I see it!

]]> By: Telesphor http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/09/11/swahili-blogosphere-debating-race-and-national-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-1195449 Telesphor Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:02:10 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/09/11/swahili-blogosphere-debating-race-and-national-identity/#comment-1195449 Racism is an evil and a racist is an evil person. If fellow Tanzanians start entertaining racist comments on and attitude towards other Tanzanians of Asian, European, American etc origin or even other nationals then we are heading the wrong direction. Sometimes I think the problem has to do with exposure or education. I really find it difficult to beleive that good people can discriminate against others because of their colour or origin. Is that not a form of neo-apartheid? For me what we have to wrestle with has to do with fair contracts, make sure that our minerals are not depleted and our country becomes one of the economic giants and not just one of the poorest in the world! I personally believe in all good people and don't care which colour one is. Like Lucky Dube, we should see one another as 'different colours one people'. I'm Tanzanian, born in Ukerewe, Mwanza, and I love all good people. Racism is an evil and a racist is an evil person. If fellow Tanzanians start entertaining racist comments on and attitude towards other Tanzanians of Asian, European, American etc origin or even other nationals then we are heading the wrong direction.

Sometimes I think the problem has to do with exposure or education. I really find it difficult to beleive that good people can discriminate against others because of their colour or origin. Is that not a form of neo-apartheid?

For me what we have to wrestle with has to do with fair contracts, make sure that our minerals are not depleted and our country becomes one of the economic giants and not just one of the poorest in the world!

I personally believe in all good people and don’t care which colour one is. Like Lucky Dube, we should see one another as ‘different colours one people’.

I’m Tanzanian, born in Ukerewe, Mwanza, and I love all good people.

]]> By: …My heart’s in Accra » links for 2007-09-13 http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/09/11/swahili-blogosphere-debating-race-and-national-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-1195080 …My heart’s in Accra » links for 2007-09-13 Thu, 13 Sep 2007 04:17:59 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/09/11/swahili-blogosphere-debating-race-and-national-identity/#comment-1195080 [...] Global Voices Online ‽ Swahili Blogosphere: Debating race and national identity GREAT post by J. Nambiza Tungaraza about discussions of racism and identity in the Swahili blogosphere after a woman of Indian descent is named Miss Tanzania 2007 (tags: race racism tanzania africa swahili globalvoices blogs) [...] [...] Global Voices Online ‽ Swahili Blogosphere: Debating race and national identity GREAT post by J. Nambiza Tungaraza about discussions of racism and identity in the Swahili blogosphere after a woman of Indian descent is named Miss Tanzania 2007 (tags: race racism tanzania africa swahili globalvoices blogs) [...]

]]> By: Multicultural beauty in Tanzania? « FLIP THE SCRIPT! http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/09/11/swahili-blogosphere-debating-race-and-national-identity/comment-page-1/#comment-1194992 Multicultural beauty in Tanzania? « FLIP THE SCRIPT! Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:17:07 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/09/11/swahili-blogosphere-debating-race-and-national-identity/#comment-1194992 [...] 2007 Multicultural beauty in Tanzania? Posted by pnoybboy under PnoyBboy  An interesting story about the new Vodacom Miss Tanzania, who is receiving some criticism because she is of Asian [...] [...] 2007 Multicultural beauty in Tanzania? Posted by pnoybboy under PnoyBboy  An interesting story about the new Vodacom Miss Tanzania, who is receiving some criticism because she is of Asian [...]

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