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	<title>Comments on: Hossein Derakhshan’s blog is suspended</title>
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		<title>By: cyrusfarivar.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#187; Was Hossein Derakhshan really arrested in Tehran?</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/08/16/hossein-derakhshan%e2%80%99s-blog-is-suspended/comment-page-2/#comment-1532440</link>
		<dc:creator>cyrusfarivar.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#187; Was Hossein Derakhshan really arrested in Tehran?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] over the last couple of years, he&#8217;s rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, to say the least. He&#8217;s taken some pretty strong political [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] over the last couple of years, he&#8217;s rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, to say the least. He&#8217;s taken some pretty strong political [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Melvin Downes</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/08/16/hossein-derakhshan%e2%80%99s-blog-is-suspended/comment-page-2/#comment-1210473</link>
		<dc:creator>Melvin Downes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For perfectly sensible reasons the British Justice system (still considered to be the world&#039;s fairest)evolved
the laws of libel, slander and defamation to ensure that the individual had the possibility of due legal process to protect his or her reputation.
Is Mr Derakhshan claiming that he will not receive justice from a US or Canadian Court ?
Rhetorically I suspect he is likely to get a better quality of justice than he would in any Iranian Court.
It is just a question of growing up and defending himself in a Court rather than in the ether !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For perfectly sensible reasons the British Justice system (still considered to be the world&#8217;s fairest)evolved<br />
the laws of libel, slander and defamation to ensure that the individual had the possibility of due legal process to protect his or her reputation.<br />
Is Mr Derakhshan claiming that he will not receive justice from a US or Canadian Court ?<br />
Rhetorically I suspect he is likely to get a better quality of justice than he would in any Iranian Court.<br />
It is just a question of growing up and defending himself in a Court rather than in the ether !</p>
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		<title>By: &#8230;My heart&#8217;s in Accra &#187; People change. Principles don&#8217;t.</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/08/16/hossein-derakhshan%e2%80%99s-blog-is-suspended/comment-page-2/#comment-1208965</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8230;My heart&#8217;s in Accra &#187; People change. Principles don&#8217;t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] removal of the allegedly defamatory posts, and suing him for defamation in an Ontario court. Derakhshan&#8217;s ISP quickly caved, and he moved his posts to another server - the Ontario lawsuit is still pending. (My colleagues at [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] removal of the allegedly defamatory posts, and suing him for defamation in an Ontario court. Derakhshan&#8217;s ISP quickly caved, and he moved his posts to another server &#8211; the Ontario lawsuit is still pending. (My colleagues at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Let Hoder Speak! at Global Voices Advocacy</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/08/16/hossein-derakhshan%e2%80%99s-blog-is-suspended/comment-page-2/#comment-1192745</link>
		<dc:creator>Let Hoder Speak! at Global Voices Advocacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the suspension of Hossein Derakhshan’s blog (aka Hoder) by the U.S. based hosting company, Hosting Matters, an online petition has been launched [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Let Hoder Speak!</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/08/16/hossein-derakhshan%e2%80%99s-blog-is-suspended/comment-page-1/#comment-1192744</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Let Hoder Speak!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the suspension of Hossein Derakhshan’s blog (aka Hoder) by the U.S. based hosting company, Hosting Matters, an online petition has been launched [...]</description>
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		<title>By: hoder.com is in trouble &#171; Between the lines</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/08/16/hossein-derakhshan%e2%80%99s-blog-is-suspended/comment-page-1/#comment-1192483</link>
		<dc:creator>hoder.com is in trouble &#171; Between the lines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was shut down. More details about what happened can be found at Hoder&#8217;s temporary blog and other [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Salzberg</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/08/16/hossein-derakhshan%e2%80%99s-blog-is-suspended/comment-page-1/#comment-1192423</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Salzberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Persian Diva: My comment was specifically about how Hoder dealt with the ISP, not about demands of the lawyer. They are separate issues. Although I agree that requesting user IPs is ridiculous, that has very little to do with the way that Hoder dealt with the ISP representative (who actually came out looking much more thoughtful than he did).

I happen to also think the &quot;personal&quot; layer of the story is very important. The tendency to turn every issue of freedom of speech into a childish black-and-white &quot;I should be able to say what I want&quot; rant overlooks the fact that freedom of speech is rarely absolute. The freedom to say anything about anybody without repercussions leads to stories like &lt;a href=&quot;http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/03/call_for_a_blog_1.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/01/16/crazed-4chan-users-shut-debito-down/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt;. There are always bounds, it is a matter of where they are drawn, who draws them, and how they are decided upon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Persian Diva: My comment was specifically about how Hoder dealt with the ISP, not about demands of the lawyer. They are separate issues. Although I agree that requesting user IPs is ridiculous, that has very little to do with the way that Hoder dealt with the ISP representative (who actually came out looking much more thoughtful than he did).</p>
<p>I happen to also think the &#8220;personal&#8221; layer of the story is very important. The tendency to turn every issue of freedom of speech into a childish black-and-white &#8220;I should be able to say what I want&#8221; rant overlooks the fact that freedom of speech is rarely absolute. The freedom to say anything about anybody without repercussions leads to stories like <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/03/call_for_a_blog_1.html" rel="nofollow">this one</a> and <a href="http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/01/16/crazed-4chan-users-shut-debito-down/" rel="nofollow">this one</a>. There are always bounds, it is a matter of where they are drawn, who draws them, and how they are decided upon.</p>
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		<title>By: Persian Diva</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/08/16/hossein-derakhshan%e2%80%99s-blog-is-suspended/comment-page-1/#comment-1192419</link>
		<dc:creator>Persian Diva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; Sam: Don’t believe everything that kamangir says. He is Gossip-specialist.

&gt; Chris Salzberg: a lawyer asking an ISP to hand over users IP addresses doesn&#039;t chock you? Why are you people so stuck to the &quot;personal&quot; layer of the story, this is about our freedom of expression that is being threatened here with such ISP and lawyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Sam: Don’t believe everything that kamangir says. He is Gossip-specialist.</p>
<p>&gt; Chris Salzberg: a lawyer asking an ISP to hand over users IP addresses doesn&#8217;t chock you? Why are you people so stuck to the &#8220;personal&#8221; layer of the story, this is about our freedom of expression that is being threatened here with such ISP and lawyers.</p>
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		<title>By: Lesezeichen Vol. IV : simoncolumbus.de</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/08/16/hossein-derakhshan%e2%80%99s-blog-is-suspended/comment-page-1/#comment-1192374</link>
		<dc:creator>Lesezeichen Vol. IV : simoncolumbus.de</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Du hast zwar nix verbrochen, aber trotzdem, lösch doch mal ein paar Einträge&#8230;&#8221; - das würde ich mir auch nicht gefallen lassen. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Du hast zwar nix verbrochen, aber trotzdem, lösch doch mal ein paar Einträge&#8230;&#8221; &#8211; das würde ich mir auch nicht gefallen lassen. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What can we really say? at Antony Loewenstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>What can we really say? at Antony Loewenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 07:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A cautionary tale about one of the leading Iranian bloggers, his critics and wary internet providers. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A cautionary tale about one of the leading Iranian bloggers, his critics and wary internet providers. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NW</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/08/16/hossein-derakhshan%e2%80%99s-blog-is-suspended/comment-page-1/#comment-1192313</link>
		<dc:creator>NW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 04:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why you don’t publish my comment? Censorship? Here too? Jesus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why you don’t publish my comment? Censorship? Here too? Jesus!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Salzberg</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/08/16/hossein-derakhshan%e2%80%99s-blog-is-suspended/comment-page-1/#comment-1192277</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Salzberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone interested in this debate should have a look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://hodertemp.blogspot.com/2007/08/accounts-and-billing-hosting-matters.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;email exchange&lt;/a&gt; between Hoder and the ISP. (maybe it&#039;s linked in the article above but I couldn&#039;t find it)

Regardless of the issues involved, I personally was less than impressed by the way Hoder dealt with the problem. He didn&#039;t give any indication that he was interested in resolving the dispute at a human level. Throwing around references to Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz might score points with some camps, but it strikes me as completely bizarre in the context of an email exchange with an ISP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone interested in this debate should have a look at the <a href="http://hodertemp.blogspot.com/2007/08/accounts-and-billing-hosting-matters.html" rel="nofollow">email exchange</a> between Hoder and the ISP. (maybe it&#8217;s linked in the article above but I couldn&#8217;t find it)</p>
<p>Regardless of the issues involved, I personally was less than impressed by the way Hoder dealt with the problem. He didn&#8217;t give any indication that he was interested in resolving the dispute at a human level. Throwing around references to Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz might score points with some camps, but it strikes me as completely bizarre in the context of an email exchange with an ISP.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don’t believe everything that Hossein says. Just an example:
http://kamangir.net/2007/08/10/antisemitic-remark-by-the-godfather-of-the-iranian-blogosphere/
http://kamangir.net/2007/08/13/godfather-seeks-support-from-the-islamic-republic/
http://kamangir.net/2007/05/06/the-enemy-and-the-idiot/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t believe everything that Hossein says. Just an example:<br />
<a href="http://kamangir.net/2007/08/10/antisemitic-remark-by-the-godfather-of-the-iranian-blogosphere/" rel="nofollow">http://kamangir.net/2007/08/10/antisemitic-remark-by-the-godfather-of-the-iranian-blogosphere/</a><br />
<a href="http://kamangir.net/2007/08/13/godfather-seeks-support-from-the-islamic-republic/" rel="nofollow">http://kamangir.net/2007/08/13/godfather-seeks-support-from-the-islamic-republic/</a><br />
<a href="http://kamangir.net/2007/05/06/the-enemy-and-the-idiot/" rel="nofollow">http://kamangir.net/2007/05/06/the-enemy-and-the-idiot/</a></p>
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		<title>By: US ISP modifies then shuts down Iranian blog, raising privacy and censorship concerns : The Blog Herald</title>
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		<dc:creator>US ISP modifies then shuts down Iranian blog, raising privacy and censorship concerns : The Blog Herald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Voices writes a lengthy news piece concerning the Iranian blogger Hossein Derakhshan (aka Hoder) whose blog has suffered censorship at [...]</description>
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