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PITAJI is a great holy master and he is above all. Do not blame either PITAJI or DERA.
Such petty question why political wing supported congress doen not refelect wisdom. I ask those who have written against DERA, are dera followers beyond society? Why can not they support congress? In past elections they did support akalis too. After all we have to live in society we are not living in jungles.I am happy to see that how good people are working in DERA.
Please do not blame PITAJI. In history also once on the request of Dara Shikoh (the eldest son of emperor Shahjahan), Guru Sahib helped him to escape safely.
I want only that people should grow up with time. The hard fact behind this is that hardliners could not except that they lost Malawa belt. As well as they do not want to see the large no of followers growing day by day. If Akal thakt SGPC supported akalis stand in politics, everybody is happy but if political wing of DERA support congress why people have stomachache?
Why people are so much in favour of hardlines whose heart is filled with anger only?
We are living in secular nation. Every one has freedom of religion. When DERA has cleared his point why not even hardliners do not understand the basic point. Do not criticise SAINT like this.
It is not so easy in today`s world to gather people for blood donation. It happens only where there is love for GURU. DERA has set record twice for blood donation. The welfare activity is beyond appreciation. Some people who have learnt to see only dirt can even find dirt in heaven.
I wish may almighty bless all with wisdom.
It is for brother RANAJI. How come religious sentiments of SIKHS got hurt by any act of DERA? Tell me what activity of DERA is anti-SIKHS? I would like to tell you that DSS sincerely respect all religions. The holy master of DSS “SAINT JI” has always tought that true teachings. Reforms are generally not digested with conservatives.
Almighty, please bless the intolerant radical SIKHS with some thought, who have spent their whole life in GURUDWARA to understand religion yet unable to understand deep meaning of SIKHSIM.
Let DSS and its followers live in peace. Accept the apology, this will add glory to SIKHS.
DSS has not harmed the SIKHSIM. First look ourselves, we never oppose acohol, flesh eating etc. Such thing are against our SIKHISM. Let us first clean our house, before throwing mud on other.
We have separate GURUDWARS for Dalit SIKHS and Jat SIKHS, why so ???? SIKHISM never tought lessons of castism.
Well i think you should click to any news site because in the latest updates dera has already apologised to the followers of guru gobind singh ji(sikh community) and akal takth has rejected that without any genuine reason.Now will you please question them that what is their motive behind doing this ? If they had wanted peace they should have accepted it and i tell you that now other people are also questioning the stand of akal takth.
I personally don’t know any such rule in constitution.
If that is the case(para 4 of yours) then can you justify sangh or RSS being involved in supporting BJP?
As far as any party is concerned decision to support any political party is taken by the political wing and not by guruji.
Dera is not saying that whole congress party is a supporter of dera or they are followers of dera.At that time this party was the only party ideologically nearest to secularism.Now you will say that what is the need to support any party if none is pure. Then i want to tell you that in this democracy the only and the biggest power citizens have is their right to vote. So what is the harm in uniting the votes.
Mr. rana as far as i know prior to guru gobind singh ji the 9 gurus were all from hindu community ,although from different regions of the country.and there were only 2 religion at the time of guru nanak dev ji(hinduism and islam).It was afterward in the reign of 10th guru sikhism was founded.Any way that is not a matter of concern or you can consult any historian or refer gurubani.
Somebody in the previous comments said that if dera head is truly spiritual then why does he uses mercedes for transport?
i would like to answer that does that person think that
one can show his spirituality by not using mercedes (or any such thing for that matter)? my dear then you should also argue that if guru gobind singh,raja janak etc were real masters then why were they a king ? that om,hari,allah or waheguru has come in different avatars.he came in form of Kabir who used to weave clothes and he also came in form of namadev who was from so called scheduled caste.History is full of such instances.Guruji has to do satsangs in the far areas of country so he needs a mode of transport of his own .He cannot rely on public transport system. and also the money for that doesn’t come from dera . he has not taken a single pie from dera till date and records say it all.
so please don’t make any false perceptions without going into the depth and just sitting over the desktop.
now i strongly believes that you must be having a close catch on developments in the past. you must have seen the stand of dera and of the other side.and now try to analyse with the depth of your heart impartially ,the developments.you will find that every step taken by dera is for the peace and they want to boil the issue.
MAY GOD SHOW RIGHT PATH TO ALL OF THEM.
THANK YOU.
this is for all those blind people who are writing rubbish about dera chief. just go on the street and try make 30 people to blindly follow you. its not a child’s play. living in the hearts of 3 crore people from all religions and cultures and converting them to real INSAANS is not something comparable to common people like you and your likes typing rubbish and those who talk about hurting religious sentiments.
the only mission of dera and its followers is to live a spiritual life, serve mankind and spread the message of humanity to every nook and corner of this corrupted world. History will repeat. sai baba, kabir and many more who dedicated their lives for humanity had not had smooth going and same is true for all present messengers of God.
Well said brother Vaibhav. I agree with you. The people who have always learnt to criticse only, had even not spared the GURUS in history.
Actually, hardliners Akalis have lot of free time so they burn tyres and shout slogans. They have not understood the “GURU GRANTH SHAIBH JI” that to critcise Saint is the greatest sin. I wonder why they are criticising SAINT of DSS. I wish almighty bless them with wisdom.
DSS has never done anything which has hurt the sentiments of SIKHS. I feel that DSS is a true holy institute and Holy SAINT Ji of DSS is a great Master.
I can say this as permis are very peaceful and wonderful people. I am sorry that some radicle elements had created problems for premis by burning their houses, shops and destroying naam charcha ghars etc. I admire even their way of protest by blood donation as well as organ donations. This reflect that DERA is wonderful place.
Dear Vaibhav,
Thanks for your response. Though this is not a forum to be disclosing it, but you can believe that my profession is such I am among the closest to news and the people. I have strived and suffered for the rights of the people.
I would once again suggest that you go through my previous posts. I am neither a supporter of the RSS nor am I interested in the life styles of the high and mighty. It does not matter who lives in palace or who rides a Mercedes. I never mentioned it.
I am opposed to RSS, religious and cultural fundamentalists. They have no space in democracy.
I have not said that Baba Gurmeet Ram Rahim Singh had issued any directive to vote. I had clearly mentioned that action of the Political Affairs Wing. Moreover, collecting or uniting votes is the function of a political party and not of any religious organisation. I had stressed that religious organisations should stay away from partisan electoral politics, because this deadly mixture of religion and politics is eating into the vitals of our country and society.
How can it be justified that a few individuals (Political Affairs Wing) take a decision on behalf of all the Premis? Before taking that decision, were the Premis consulted? I can clearly recall that a directive was issued to the Premis and I wont hesitate in terming the diktat issued by the Dera’s Political Affairs Wing to be as dictatorial as those issued by the RSS or from Madrasa or even a Gurdwara.
I would go to extent of supporting you to reject the Akali Dal. But then there were candidates from other parties, the BSP, the Communists, and so on. I am sure some of the Premis must have been aligned to these political parties. Or do you want to say that candidates from other parties were useless. Who decides that? Why in the past did the same Political Affairs Wing support candidates of the Akali Dal? Why were they rejected this time? Who is going to answer that ?
Because of the short sighted action by a few individuals, those who reposed full faith in the Dera have suffered. Firstly, they were not allowed to vote according to there will (a fundamental right guaranteed in the constitution) and now they are facing persecution all over Punjab, for no fault of theirs. I have felt their suffering and even highlighted it at every forum available to me and this DESKTOP is one such instrument I use to oppose dictators and oppressors.
Now about the apology. I have seen the copies of those letters, which begin with “PRESS NOTE” written in Hindi. Even an illiterate person understands the difference between a letter and “PRESS NOTE”. A press note is not addressed to anybody, hence it reached nobody.
On history, be informed that Guru Nanak Dev founded the Sikh faith and Guru Gobind Singh in 1699 created the “Khalsa Panth”. There is a major difference, which you need to understand.
Refer to the first few lines of your latest post, where you say “If they had wanted peace they should have accepted it ….” I am convinced that they and you do not want peace. But Peace is the basic requirement and a right of the crores of Indians in general and Punjabis in particular. Be sure that if there are a few who want to vitiate this atmosphere through their words and actions, there is huge silent mass of population, which knows how defend its Peace.
TODAY,30/06/07 IN THE DAILY TRIBUNE DR. ADITYA ASKED ABOUT THE SUPREME POWER OF SIKHISM. IN REPLY, AS PER PER GURU GOBIND SINGH JI “KHALSA MERO ROOP HAI KHAAS. KHALSE MEIN HON KARON NIWAS’ AND “KHALSA MERI JAAN KI JAAN” AND “KHALSE KE HOUN SAD SADSANGA” AND “KHALSA MERO PIND PRAAN” (JITHE PANJ RYARE HONGE MEIN OTHE HI HOWANGA) MEANS : “PANJ SINGH SAHIBAAN DA FAISLA MERA HI FAISLA HAI” SO GUMEET SHOULD FEEL SORRY TO GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI AT AKAL TAKHAT BY MENTIONING “I DID WRONG” AND “I SHALL NOT REPEAT THE SAME IN FUTURE” WITH CLEAR HEART.
IN SIKHISM “JO SARAN AAVE TIS KANTH LAVE”
I THINK FOR THE MANKIND AND TO AVOID BLOODSHED, HE SHOULD FEEL SORRY BY PERSONALY AT AKAL TAKHAT.
AM I RIGHT ?…THINK…..THINK……AGAIN THINK
I am fully agree with mr. manjit”s comments. If the problem is solved by feeling sorry at Akal Takhat, for the mankind, Babaji should do all this. “SANT KA MAARG DHARM KI PAURI KO WADBHAAGI PAEY”. I think some persons who involved in dera and exploiting innocent people are not intrested for the same. Please note : all of the persons including Maharaja Ranjit Singh, Giani Zail Singh, Nihang Mukhi Baba Santa Singh etc. felt sorry at akal takhat.
In the end……..”NIWEN SO BAURA HOEY”
FAL NIWIAN RUKHAN NU HI HI LAGDE….SIMBLA TUN MAAN NA KARI
as far as all this issue of apology is concern ,i want to ask that who will feel sorry and regret for hurting the sentiments of dera premis. They continued to burn the effigies of guruji . at that time where was your concious?
where were the teachings of guru granth sahib and now you are hiding your acts by preaching lessons of granth sahib.