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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; The Uyghurs: Persecuted Muslim Minority in NorthWest China</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/04/23/china-blame-canada/comment-page-2/#comment-1571700</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; The Uyghurs: Persecuted Muslim Minority in NorthWest China</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in 2008, and also how the Chinese government pressures other countries to refuse asylum to those they deem criminals, much in the same way it happened with 17 Uyghur detainees in Guantanamo, who had been released but [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in 2008, and also how the Chinese government pressures other countries to refuse asylum to those they deem criminals, much in the same way it happened with 17 Uyghur detainees in Guantanamo, who had been released but [...]</p>
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		<title>By: truth</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/04/23/china-blame-canada/comment-page-2/#comment-1512538</link>
		<dc:creator>truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Under current legal system, Canada was, is and will be the heaven of criminals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Under current legal system, Canada was, is and will be the heaven of criminals.</p>
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		<title>By: chan</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/04/23/china-blame-canada/comment-page-2/#comment-1488644</link>
		<dc:creator>chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 04:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why &quot;human rights&quot; is being abused or missused to protect criminals ??? Who is shouting most oftenly and  loudly about Human Rights ??? Please don&#039;t abuse &quot;HUMAN RIGHTS&quot; !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why &#8220;human rights&#8221; is being abused or missused to protect criminals ??? Who is shouting most oftenly and  loudly about Human Rights ??? Please don&#8217;t abuse &#8220;HUMAN RIGHTS&#8221; !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Knights</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/04/23/china-blame-canada/comment-page-2/#comment-1488365</link>
		<dc:creator>Knights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I told you, the west hates terrorist, uh 9/11 incident, but they can twist it to hurt china at their own expense, i.e. protecting a terrorist escaping from china, they will use that weapon and pretend it&#039;s under human rights. . .

I hate Canada, a usa dog!  shame dog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I told you, the west hates terrorist, uh 9/11 incident, but they can twist it to hurt china at their own expense, i.e. protecting a terrorist escaping from china, they will use that weapon and pretend it&#8217;s under human rights. . .</p>
<p>I hate Canada, a usa dog!  shame dog!</p>
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		<title>By: richmondhill</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/04/23/china-blame-canada/comment-page-2/#comment-1488169</link>
		<dc:creator>richmondhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparantly Huseyin Celil hid his terrorist past so he cheated Canada for refugee status and citizenship. Had he told the truth when he applied, he would&#039;ve been denied. 

So what Canadian government can do is to fix this by ripping him off the citizenship so the problem is gone. Also, Canada should fix the loophole in its refugee identification system so such rediculous things won&#039;t happen again. What a joke!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparantly Huseyin Celil hid his terrorist past so he cheated Canada for refugee status and citizenship. Had he told the truth when he applied, he would&#8217;ve been denied. </p>
<p>So what Canadian government can do is to fix this by ripping him off the citizenship so the problem is gone. Also, Canada should fix the loophole in its refugee identification system so such rediculous things won&#8217;t happen again. What a joke!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/04/23/china-blame-canada/comment-page-2/#comment-1277074</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems odd to me that Celil was granted a citizenship so quickly. I am a Chinese-Canadian raised in the mainland who now lives in Vancouver: I study law and I know that anyone who lands on Canadian soil are granted conditional basic human rights (right to live, etc) but he is indeed part of a terrorist group which- in fact- may &quot;endanger&quot; Canada. Granting citizenship to Celil, under the current Conservatives gov&#039;t, seems to me as a very &quot;odd&quot; act. What is Canada trying to do/prove? China is one of Canada&#039;s largest trading partners.

...I&#039;m sensing sparks of controversy rising from the now-almost-burned-out yule log.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems odd to me that Celil was granted a citizenship so quickly. I am a Chinese-Canadian raised in the mainland who now lives in Vancouver: I study law and I know that anyone who lands on Canadian soil are granted conditional basic human rights (right to live, etc) but he is indeed part of a terrorist group which- in fact- may &#8220;endanger&#8221; Canada. Granting citizenship to Celil, under the current Conservatives gov&#8217;t, seems to me as a very &#8220;odd&#8221; act. What is Canada trying to do/prove? China is one of Canada&#8217;s largest trading partners.</p>
<p>&#8230;I&#8217;m sensing sparks of controversy rising from the now-almost-burned-out yule log.</p>
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		<title>By: 279476</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/04/23/china-blame-canada/comment-page-2/#comment-1192454</link>
		<dc:creator>279476</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 04:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amnesty is just as crooked as the Canadian government, the Red Dragons and the rest of the world. Anything to perpetuate the system of making money...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amnesty is just as crooked as the Canadian government, the Red Dragons and the rest of the world. Anything to perpetuate the system of making money&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: thduggie&#8217;s blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Butting in and other forgotten details</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/04/23/china-blame-canada/comment-page-2/#comment-1189226</link>
		<dc:creator>thduggie&#8217;s blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Butting in and other forgotten details</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not quite as straightforward.  For further reading, see the Wikipedia site on Celil and an interesting blog on Celil.  Of course, there&#8217;s always Amnesty International for an unbiased [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not quite as straightforward.  For further reading, see the Wikipedia site on Celil and an interesting blog on Celil.  Of course, there&#8217;s always Amnesty International for an unbiased [...]</p>
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		<title>By: warner pinetree</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/04/23/china-blame-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1184130</link>
		<dc:creator>warner pinetree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 16:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Withut reference to this particular case; an interesting wider but related point would be when does a freedom fighter become a terrorist? For instance the ANC in S. Africa (which was given the support of the Chinese regime) was considered a terrorist organisation by its own govt. and many others. Whilst I myself would not condone the use of violence for political ends (unlike revolutionary communists!) I can see that where an ethnic/religious/political minority has no other means of redress or true representation ANY act which it takes would be considered as &#039;terrorism&#039; by the authorities.

Congratulations to Canada for (once again)holding to legal and moral principles in the face of immense pressure unlike their American cousins who sold out for Chinese support in their own &#039;war on terror&#039;.

When a country (like the PRC) is not governed by law and where there is no seperation between the judiciary and an unelected ruling elite then any reasonable country should refuse to extradite.

If this man is a terrorist then the population of China can rest asssured that he will not be returning to the motherland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Withut reference to this particular case; an interesting wider but related point would be when does a freedom fighter become a terrorist? For instance the ANC in S. Africa (which was given the support of the Chinese regime) was considered a terrorist organisation by its own govt. and many others. Whilst I myself would not condone the use of violence for political ends (unlike revolutionary communists!) I can see that where an ethnic/religious/political minority has no other means of redress or true representation ANY act which it takes would be considered as &#8216;terrorism&#8217; by the authorities.</p>
<p>Congratulations to Canada for (once again)holding to legal and moral principles in the face of immense pressure unlike their American cousins who sold out for Chinese support in their own &#8216;war on terror&#8217;.</p>
<p>When a country (like the PRC) is not governed by law and where there is no seperation between the judiciary and an unelected ruling elite then any reasonable country should refuse to extradite.</p>
<p>If this man is a terrorist then the population of China can rest asssured that he will not be returning to the motherland.</p>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/04/23/china-blame-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1183642</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 05:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bingster, 

Perhaps the claim that Uyghurs seem to have &#039;more opportunities&#039; than the average Han Chinese is offset by the fact that the central government has other policies of ensuring and promoting Han dominance in the Xinjiang region . 

Although I have my doubts about the nature of the policies you mentioned that ethnic Chinese Uyghurs are exempt from, I have no desire to argue the pros and cons of any specific policies here, but I am aware that there are usually positives and negatives.  

Also, please refrain from making assumptions about other commenters such as Hilary. (And in case you&#039;re wondering, I speak Mandarin-Chinese and I have Chinese friends from China.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bingster, </p>
<p>Perhaps the claim that Uyghurs seem to have &#8216;more opportunities&#8217; than the average Han Chinese is offset by the fact that the central government has other policies of ensuring and promoting Han dominance in the Xinjiang region . </p>
<p>Although I have my doubts about the nature of the policies you mentioned that ethnic Chinese Uyghurs are exempt from, I have no desire to argue the pros and cons of any specific policies here, but I am aware that there are usually positives and negatives.  </p>
<p>Also, please refrain from making assumptions about other commenters such as Hilary. (And in case you&#8217;re wondering, I speak Mandarin-Chinese and I have Chinese friends from China.)</p>
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		<title>By: GOVERNMENT DECISION IS QUESTIONABLE</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/04/23/china-blame-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1097995</link>
		<dc:creator>GOVERNMENT DECISION IS QUESTIONABLE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 16:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Canadian Law, &quot;a foreign national is inadmissible on security grounds being a danger to the security of Canada....&quot; 

A refugee claim is ineligible to be referred to the Refugee Protection Division if &quot;the claimant has been determined to be inadmissible on grounds of security.....serious criminality or organized criminality.....&quot;

Huseyin Celil is a member of the East Trukistan Movement, which is a terrorist organization defined by the United Nations. Interpol has a worldwide arrest warrant on him before he turned to Canada because he is suspected of being involved in a series of violent terrorist activities. There were enought evidences to show that  it is a danger to the security of granting a refugee status and Citizenship to Celil. Contrarily,a inadmissibility order should be placed.

So, the government decision is questionable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Canadian Law, &#8220;a foreign national is inadmissible on security grounds being a danger to the security of Canada&#8230;.&#8221; </p>
<p>A refugee claim is ineligible to be referred to the Refugee Protection Division if &#8220;the claimant has been determined to be inadmissible on grounds of security&#8230;..serious criminality or organized criminality&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>Huseyin Celil is a member of the East Trukistan Movement, which is a terrorist organization defined by the United Nations. Interpol has a worldwide arrest warrant on him before he turned to Canada because he is suspected of being involved in a series of violent terrorist activities. There were enought evidences to show that  it is a danger to the security of granting a refugee status and Citizenship to Celil. Contrarily,a inadmissibility order should be placed.</p>
<p>So, the government decision is questionable.</p>
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		<title>By: John Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/04/23/china-blame-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1094054</link>
		<dc:creator>John Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 16:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the heads up, AReader. I&#039;ve made translation mistakes before, but I don&#039;t see any now in the first two parts. Could you do everyone a favor and point them out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the heads up, AReader. I&#8217;ve made translation mistakes before, but I don&#8217;t see any now in the first two parts. Could you do everyone a favor and point them out?</p>
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		<title>By: AReader</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/04/23/china-blame-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1093942</link>
		<dc:creator>AReader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 15:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least the first two citations are mistranlated. You may want to check your translations again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least the first two citations are mistranlated. You may want to check your translations again.</p>
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		<title>By: bingster</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/04/23/china-blame-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1093865</link>
		<dc:creator>bingster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 15:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hilary: 

Pardon my french but you don&#039;t know crap about China, do you? don&#039;t you speech Chinese and you don&#039;t have any Chinese friends who are from China, right? 

&quot;it should allow the Uyghurs equal opportunity at employment&quot;

You are right Uyghurs don&#039;t have equal opportunity, in fact they have more opportunities than average Han. They get preferential treatment with it comes to college admission, they are EXEMPT from &quot;one child&quot; policy, they are guaranteed quota in Xinjiang govt positioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hilary: </p>
<p>Pardon my french but you don&#8217;t know crap about China, do you? don&#8217;t you speech Chinese and you don&#8217;t have any Chinese friends who are from China, right? </p>
<p>&#8220;it should allow the Uyghurs equal opportunity at employment&#8221;</p>
<p>You are right Uyghurs don&#8217;t have equal opportunity, in fact they have more opportunities than average Han. They get preferential treatment with it comes to college admission, they are EXEMPT from &#8220;one child&#8221; policy, they are guaranteed quota in Xinjiang govt positioned.</p>
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		<title>By: Hilary</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/04/23/china-blame-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-1080788</link>
		<dc:creator>Hilary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 22:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s get one thing clear: separatism is not the same thing as terrorism. If the PRC is so concerned about Uyghur &quot;terrorism&quot;, it should allow the Uyghurs equal opportunity at employment rather than favoring us Han Chinese, and cease its religious, cultural and linguistic repression. Torture and targeting of civilians (by anybody) is also unacceptable. Many PRC policies are exacerbating problems in Xinjiang. I love China very much, it is my ancestral homeland. I hope one day the government will wake up and treat everyone within China with equal respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s get one thing clear: separatism is not the same thing as terrorism. If the PRC is so concerned about Uyghur &#8220;terrorism&#8221;, it should allow the Uyghurs equal opportunity at employment rather than favoring us Han Chinese, and cease its religious, cultural and linguistic repression. Torture and targeting of civilians (by anybody) is also unacceptable. Many PRC policies are exacerbating problems in Xinjiang. I love China very much, it is my ancestral homeland. I hope one day the government will wake up and treat everyone within China with equal respect.</p>
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