Comments on: Kurdistance: The Kirkuk Referendum http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/ The world is talking. Are you listening? Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:51:11 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Baris http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-1183800 Baris Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:03:48 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/#comment-1183800 Turkey is the country of citizenship of all its people, no need for proof. History has already proven that. South east asia won't fall in hands of outsiders, no muslim (nor shi, nor sunni) would watch and see that happen. Turkey is the country of citizenship of all its people, no need for proof. History has already proven that. South east asia won’t fall in hands of outsiders, no muslim (nor shi, nor sunni) would watch and see that happen.

]]> By: Tim http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-879083 Tim Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:15:26 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/#comment-879083 The Kurds look like the catalyst to unleash Iran, Iraq, Syria and Turkey. The Kurds look like the catalyst to unleash Iran, Iraq, Syria and Turkey.

]]> By: eugenlitwin http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-812361 eugenlitwin Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:37:51 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/#comment-812361 Turkish position so destructive, it is looks like they on they to 3 Wien disaster. Turks don t you see that whole the world accepted Iraqi Kurdistan independents with Kirkuk in? Turkish position so destructive, it is looks like they on they to 3 Wien disaster. Turks don t you see that whole the world accepted Iraqi Kurdistan independents with Kirkuk in?

]]> By: Hejar http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-706095 Hejar Sat, 10 Feb 2007 19:08:28 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/#comment-706095 Metin ! Could you objectively prove that " Turkey is the country of citizenship of all its people"? Are you serious ? HEHAR Metin !
Could you objectively prove that ” Turkey is the country of citizenship of all its people”? Are you serious ?
HEHAR

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » Kurdistance: A Medley http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-698477 Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » Kurdistance: A Medley Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:18:38 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/#comment-698477 [...] Mizgin from Rasti writes this week about recent Turkish government statements concerning Turkish involvement in Iraq, or rather Turkish involvement with the Kirkuk situation in Northern Iraq: The Washington Times’ resident Kurdish “expert” has a column out today to let us know that Abdullah Gul is going to tell Condoleeza Rice just how bad the situation in Iraq has become . . . as if she didn’t know. I mean, they all know; they just refuse to admit it publicly. [...] [...] Mizgin from Rasti writes this week about recent Turkish government statements concerning Turkish involvement in Iraq, or rather Turkish involvement with the Kirkuk situation in Northern Iraq: The Washington Times’ resident Kurdish “expert” has a column out today to let us know that Abdullah Gul is going to tell Condoleeza Rice just how bad the situation in Iraq has become . . . as if she didn’t know. I mean, they all know; they just refuse to admit it publicly. [...]

]]> By: Martin http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-697527 Martin Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:19:41 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/#comment-697527 According to Turkey, there is no such thing as a Kurd, or a Kurdish nation. The issue of the independence of Kurdistan remains the only bright stop in the scenario for the future of South West Asia. The fall of Saddam has opened a window of opportunity for the Kurdish people to establish their own state that is secular and democratic. Against them lies the theocratic interests of the Islamic Republic of Iran, the military dominated Turkey and the Baathist regime of Syria. The first step is in Iraq. No people deserve the chance to self-rule more then the Kurds. Even the Turkmen in Kirkuk recognize the provocations of Turkey in regards to the referendum as demonstrated in the article above. Trying to maintain a centralized government in Iraq will be as elusive as try to make a ball of water. The fragmentation that has resulted is the result of the partition of the Ottoman Empire after its defeat in World War 1. The Kurds were left out of that settlement despite promises to the contrary. There is that option, or there is the option for the expansion of the Islamic Republic of Iran and its linkage with its own sponsored private armies in Palestine, Lebanon and Iraq. At the present time there is a coalescing of Kurdish forces as has not been seen before in recent history. The PUK, KDP, PJAK, and Kongra-GEL are working together as never before. The issue of Kirkuk has arisen because of the displacement of Kurds by Saddam and the resettlement by Arabs from other parts of the region. The referendum is significant and worthy of support by the US government. http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/IRIN/0dc69e874495334b7e7abd4774486c8f.htm There are many who will oppose it, but they are not voices that deserve any respect or support the Kurdish right of self-determination. The Kurds have demonstrated their ability to self-govern. They have worked to promote democratic and secular rule. They have sought to resolve the issue of Kirkuk in a reasonable and democratic manner. Let's recognize that and recognize the evolving Kurdish nation, as its people who seek to be free. Is there any more just solution for a people who have endured so much suffering at the hands of both the Sunni and Shi'a? Is there a people who have endured a more oppressive occupation by the Syrians, the Turks, the Persians and the Arabs for so long? According to Turkey, there is no such thing as a Kurd, or a Kurdish nation. The issue of the independence of Kurdistan remains the only bright stop in the scenario for the future of South West Asia. The fall of Saddam has opened a window of opportunity for the Kurdish people to establish their own state that is secular and democratic. Against them lies the theocratic interests of the Islamic Republic of Iran, the military dominated Turkey and the Baathist regime of Syria. The first step is in Iraq. No people deserve the chance to self-rule more then the Kurds. Even the Turkmen in Kirkuk recognize the provocations of Turkey in regards to the referendum as demonstrated in the article above.

Trying to maintain a centralized government in Iraq will be as elusive as try to make a ball of water. The fragmentation that has resulted is the result of the partition of the Ottoman Empire after its defeat in World War 1. The Kurds were left out of that settlement despite promises to the contrary. There is that option, or there is the option for the expansion of the Islamic Republic of Iran and its linkage with its own sponsored private armies in Palestine, Lebanon and Iraq.

At the present time there is a coalescing of Kurdish forces as has not been seen before in recent history. The PUK, KDP, PJAK, and Kongra-GEL are working together as never before. The issue of Kirkuk has arisen because of the displacement of Kurds by Saddam and the resettlement by Arabs from other parts of the region. The referendum is significant and worthy of support by the US government.
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/IRIN/0dc69e874495334b7e7abd4774486c8f.htm There are many who will oppose it, but they are not voices that deserve any respect or support the Kurdish right of self-determination.

The Kurds have demonstrated their ability to self-govern. They have worked to promote democratic and secular rule. They have sought to resolve the issue of Kirkuk in a reasonable and democratic manner.

Let’s recognize that and recognize the evolving Kurdish nation, as its people who seek to be free. Is there any more just solution for a people who have endured so much suffering at the hands of both the Sunni and Shi’a? Is there a people who have endured a more oppressive occupation by the Syrians, the Turks, the Persians and the Arabs for so long?

]]> By: metin http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-697464 metin Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:51:56 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/#comment-697464 Hejar: Once again, to take the obvious original and switch it around only works in the first sense as I presented it. It is the Kurds of Turkey who are in the minority. And now they find themselves in the majority within their own Northern Iraq territories. Turks have always been in the majority in Turkey. And there's no switching of positions. Turkey is the country of citizenship of all its people. Kurd, Turk, Greek, Armenian, Turkmen, Turkwomen, and others. Turkey is not an exclusive club for Turks only. Whereas a 'Kurdistan,' it appears is all about Kurds. Hejar: Once again, to take the obvious original and switch it around only works in the first sense as I presented it. It is the Kurds of Turkey who are in the minority. And now they find themselves in the majority within their own Northern Iraq territories. Turks have always been in the majority in Turkey. And there’s no switching of positions. Turkey is the country of citizenship of all its people. Kurd, Turk, Greek, Armenian, Turkmen, Turkwomen, and others. Turkey is not an exclusive club for Turks only. Whereas a ‘Kurdistan,’ it appears is all about Kurds.

]]> By: Hejar http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-694297 Hejar Wed, 07 Feb 2007 21:14:07 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/#comment-694297 The sentence penned by Metin, could be constructed as the following too: " How does it feel for the Turks of Turkey to be in the majority and having to deal with the Kurdish minority. Role Reversal ? " The sentence penned by Metin, could be constructed as the following too:
” How does it feel for the Turks of Turkey to be in the majority and
having to deal with the Kurdish minority. Role Reversal ? “

]]> By: metin http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-667510 metin Thu, 01 Feb 2007 03:26:05 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/#comment-667510 <blockquote>"The best outcome of such an occupation would be the unification of the Kurdish people across all borders and the <b>ensuing slaughter of Mehmetciks</b>,"</blockquote> A little too optimistic, don't you think, for such a sadistic and hateful statement from Rasti, who is a frequent offender of anything Turkish. Another generation down the drain!

“The best outcome of such an occupation would be the unification of the Kurdish people across all borders and the ensuing slaughter of Mehmetciks,”

A little too optimistic, don’t you think, for such a sadistic and hateful statement from Rasti, who is a frequent offender of anything Turkish. Another generation down the drain!

]]> By: metin http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/comment-page-1/#comment-667494 metin Thu, 01 Feb 2007 03:19:19 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/31/kurdistance-the-kirkuk-referendum/#comment-667494 How does it feel for the Kurds of that region to be in the majority and having to deal with the Turkmen minority. Role reversal? How does it feel for the Kurds of that region to be in the majority and having to deal with the Turkmen minority. Role reversal?

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