Comments on: China: Independent directors funded http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/21/china-independent-directors-funded/ The world is talking. Are you listening? Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:51:11 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: John Kennedy http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/21/china-independent-directors-funded/comment-page-1/#comment-666064 John Kennedy Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:34:36 +0000 793779835#comment-666064 Thanks to GiaGia's careful eye, I now see that the Bullog post is a clever e'gao (parody) of the original news report. The directors are in fact being offered funding by SARFT, but the comments above are in response to Bullog writer Jajia's carefully-written and creative re-interpretation of the news. It illustrates her/his belief that the broadcasting authority's move to fund their future films will have a significant and long-term impact on the works the directors produce. Thanks to GiaGia’s careful eye, I now see that the Bullog post is a clever e’gao (parody) of the original news report. The directors are in fact being offered funding by SARFT, but the comments above are in response to Bullog writer Jajia’s carefully-written and creative re-interpretation of the news. It illustrates her/his belief that the broadcasting authority’s move to fund their future films will have a significant and long-term impact on the works the directors produce.

]]> By: GiaGia http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/21/china-independent-directors-funded/comment-page-1/#comment-666062 GiaGia Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:33:34 +0000 793779835#comment-666062 Ok, seriously, John talked to me and we discuss the news original source and found out that: 1, it's the fact that there existing a funding for the directors. 2, The version on which John worked on for translation is not the original one, but a modified and re-edited one by a certain bloger. The whole meaning could be misleading. Probably the re-editer didn't mean to mislead people, but just for fun or expression of his own idea, but it did misled some people, including those Chinese replied to the text,and unfortunately, my dear John. (Sorry, John, I should have told you earlier and more seriouslier) 3, Even for Chinese, it's not easy to distinguish, but I still hope John could come to explain about the difference between the original version and the re-edited one 4. I said it's a fake news. I think I used an inpropriate word. at least the fact of funding was true. in Chinese we call it "e gao"(恶搞)but I don't know the exact translation in English of this word. For example, if you saw a picture of Monalisa with beard, that could be regarded as a "e gao" Ok, seriously, John talked to me and we discuss the news original source and found out that:
1, it’s the fact that there existing a funding for the directors.
2, The version on which John worked on for translation is not the original one, but a modified and re-edited one by a certain bloger. The whole meaning could be misleading. Probably the re-editer didn’t mean to mislead people, but just for fun or expression of his own idea, but it did misled some people, including those Chinese replied to the text,and unfortunately, my dear John. (Sorry, John, I should have told you earlier and more seriouslier)
3, Even for Chinese, it’s not easy to distinguish, but I still hope John could come to explain about the difference between the original version and the re-edited one
4. I said it’s a fake news. I think I used an inpropriate word. at least the fact of funding was true. in Chinese we call it “e gao”(恶搞)but I don’t know the exact translation in English of this word. For example, if you saw a picture of Monalisa with beard, that could be regarded as a “e gao”

]]> By: Catherine http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/21/china-independent-directors-funded/comment-page-1/#comment-664474 Catherine Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:21:53 +0000 793779835#comment-664474 Hi,John.I am a Chinese student in Guangdong.I have learned your name and your story on a local newspaper and read some of your works online. I have met quiet a few foreigners before and found that most of them know nothing about China.Your work interseted me quite a lot and I also wanna do something to connect China with the world.I got 29 scores in the TOEFL writing(the full mark of writing is 30),so I think I can translate Chinese articles into English and write English comments.Can I do that?Also,could you please give me some directions about how to do that? Also, are you still in Guangzhou?If you are in Guangzhou this February, I hope I can visit you and have some conversation with you.Some of your views and ideas impressed me very much. Now I am working on some essays about Chinese politics and I wanna hear your ideas.I guess it's a little rude and too straight -forward to write you such a letter, but that's the only way I can get contact with you.SO,hope you forgive my rudeness. Hi,John.I am a Chinese student in Guangdong.I have learned your name and your story on a local newspaper and read some of your works online.
I have met quiet a few foreigners before and found that most of them know nothing about China.Your work interseted me quite a lot
and I also wanna do something to connect China with the world.I got 29 scores in the TOEFL writing(the full mark of writing is 30),so I think I can translate Chinese articles into English and write English comments.Can I do that?Also,could you please give me some directions about how to do that?

Also, are you still in Guangzhou?If you are in Guangzhou this February, I hope I can visit you and have some conversation with you.Some of your views and ideas impressed me very much. Now I am working on some essays about Chinese politics and I wanna hear your ideas.I guess it’s a little rude and too straight -forward to write you such a letter, but that’s the only way I can get contact with you.SO,hope you forgive my rudeness.

]]> By: GiaGia http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/21/china-independent-directors-funded/comment-page-1/#comment-662455 GiaGia Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:46:23 +0000 793779835#comment-662455 "Channel 3 Shit. Looks like Jajia’s pulling our leg. But I think Xinhua is being spoofed out of anger. " Obviously the funding story was not real news. just fake news for fun/for expression of anger. “Channel 3
Shit. Looks like Jajia’s pulling our leg.
But I think Xinhua is being spoofed out of anger.
”

Obviously the funding story was not real news. just fake news for fun/for expression of anger.

]]> By: John Kennedy http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/21/china-independent-directors-funded/comment-page-1/#comment-648708 John Kennedy Sat, 27 Jan 2007 09:59:41 +0000 793779835#comment-648708 @Jordan: Do you think I should have left the f-words (or c-words) as they were? Very civilized discussion, obviously. But the reason I think these bloggers are so angry and vitriolic is that most of those directors have put out some really good, really dogma-free movies over the past few years and are the representatives of the latest push of an independent streak in Chinese film. Widely-criticized movies put out by big-name OYG directors like Chen Kaige, Zhang Yimou and Feng Xiaogang over the past few years have only won the younger generation more support. Though all movies have had to be approved officially, now the younger generation has to film them with the theme and stance already decided for them, or else they won't be approved. @Mary: You're right, this is a pretty stringy post. Can I blame the earthquake? Thanks for the book tip, will definitely look for it next time I go to Hong Kong. @mahathir_fan: You've seen right through me! I do have a preference for indie and alternative voices, and I think they deserve an uncontrolled space in society to do their work. Sometimes I get tired and cranky and start writing off Chinese actors and directors as just voices for the state, although I know neither they or the system is that simple. One thing I've been trying to wrap my head around lately is that in China so many extremely talented people end up in strange (to me) places like police army, navy, and air force dancing, singing and acting troupes. I can see how only being able to find work in companies like those would put a definite limit on the types of performance you could do, and I do often judge them on what I see. But as performing arts students, they must have had different, much broader passions, no? I always use the movie Lan Yu as an example. As if having queer characters portrayed by (straight) mainstream actors wasn't groundbreaking enough for China in 2001, including male nudity, it even dealt directly with what happened in Tia-na-nmen in June, 1989. I think the fact that a movie like this could be made in China is pretty telling, but I wonder if it could be made under these new conditions for movie funding and approval... @Jordan:
Do you think I should have left the f-words (or c-words) as they were? Very civilized discussion, obviously. But the reason I think these bloggers are so angry and vitriolic is that most of those directors have put out some really good, really dogma-free movies over the past few years and are the representatives of the latest push of an independent streak in Chinese film. Widely-criticized movies put out by big-name OYG directors like Chen Kaige, Zhang Yimou and Feng Xiaogang over the past few years have only won the younger generation more support. Though all movies have had to be approved officially, now the younger generation has to film them with the theme and stance already decided for them, or else they won’t be approved.

@Mary:
You’re right, this is a pretty stringy post. Can I blame the earthquake? Thanks for the book tip, will definitely look for it next time I go to Hong Kong.

@mahathir_fan:
You’ve seen right through me! I do have a preference for indie and alternative voices, and I think they deserve an uncontrolled space in society to do their work. Sometimes I get tired and cranky and start writing off Chinese actors and directors as just voices for the state, although I know neither they or the system is that simple. One thing I’ve been trying to wrap my head around lately is that in China so many extremely talented people end up in strange (to me) places like police army, navy, and air force dancing, singing and acting troupes. I can see how only being able to find work in companies like those would put a definite limit on the types of performance you could do, and I do often judge them on what I see. But as performing arts students, they must have had different, much broader passions, no? I always use the movie Lan Yu as an example. As if having queer characters portrayed by (straight) mainstream actors wasn’t groundbreaking enough for China in 2001, including male nudity, it even dealt directly with what happened in Tia-na-nmen in June, 1989. I think the fact that a movie like this could be made in China is pretty telling, but I wonder if it could be made under these new conditions for movie funding and approval…

]]> By: mahathir_fan http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/21/china-independent-directors-funded/comment-page-1/#comment-644558 mahathir_fan Fri, 26 Jan 2007 08:36:06 +0000 793779835#comment-644558 that's good for a change. not just new directors are good, but new actresses for a change. oh and new actors. sorry for the freudian slip. i guess that's what I pay attention at. that’s good for a change. not just new directors are good, but new actresses for a change. oh and new actors. sorry for the freudian slip. i guess that’s what I pay attention at.

]]> By: Mary http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/21/china-independent-directors-funded/comment-page-1/#comment-643132 Mary Fri, 26 Jan 2007 00:39:56 +0000 793779835#comment-643132 Informative and great, but one would wish your great pieces to go deeper. I just read a great book: China and the new world order, by the highly provocative Chinese journalist george zhibin gu, which offers huge insights on current China and global affairs. Informative and great, but one would wish your great pieces to go deeper. I just read a great book: China and the new world order, by the highly provocative Chinese journalist george zhibin gu, which offers huge insights on current China and global affairs.

]]> By: jordan http://globalvoicesonline.org/2007/01/21/china-independent-directors-funded/comment-page-1/#comment-629343 jordan Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:31:30 +0000 793779835#comment-629343 hi john, nice work with tranlating, very creative explicatives in chinese...i wonder about the visual effect such word have on someone... but the real issue for me is the question fo the size and scale of china -- perhaps there is a need to keep peope togethjer thru cinema...just think of the impact of civil strife in china...i just throw this out us devil's advocate... hi john, nice work with tranlating, very creative explicatives in chinese…i wonder about the visual effect such word have on someone…

but the real issue for me is the question fo the size and scale of china — perhaps there is a need to keep peope togethjer thru cinema…just think of the impact of civil strife in china…i just throw this out us devil’s advocate…

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