Comments on: Kurdistance: Picking up the pieces

By: towsonu2003

towsonu2003 — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 00:02:28 +0000

So no one covered the promotion of a Kurdish operating system by the mayor of Sur, Diyarbakir? And Diyarbakir attorney general started an investigation on both the operating system and the mayor. I see this as important because:
1. Kurdish people now has an operating system in their own language
2. Even a Kurdish operating system cannot be “tolerated”.

News here: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Kurdish_operating_system_under_investigation_by_Turkish_attorney_general

By: Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » Kurdistance: It’s Quiet Out Here

Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:28:27 +0000

[...] Sorry for the slow week, however if you want to read an interesting dialouge on the nature of Kurdistan in the geographic sense, check out the comments on the last installment of Kurdistance. Deborah Ann Dilley [...]

By: GV Article-Kurdistance-It’s Quiet Out Here « Kurdistan Blog Count

GV Article-Kurdistance-It’s Quiet Out Here « Kurdistan Blog Count — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 03:13:16 +0000

By: metin

metin — Sat, 25 Nov 2006 18:34:46 +0000

AmerikanTurk: Turkish Kurds would have to decide whether they would like living with Arab Kurds first before any ‘relocation’ takes place. This is where the true test comes into play. I don’t see any American Armenians, or even Turkish-Armenians, itching to move to Armenia. And I suspect the same will be true for Kurds of Turkey. Nothing short of living where they live, but instead calling it by the new ‘country’ name is what the ‘Turkish’ Kurds want. And Hejar knows that. If anything, there might be 3 separate Kurdistan states. But Turkey and Iraq, as well as Syria would not allow it.

If it was up to me, I’d give it to them anyday. The amount of money Turkey spends on the Southeast, as well as Cyprus issues are too great for the sake of keeping those lands. Maybe then Turkey would at least spend the money on Turks who want to stay Turks, whether they’re Turks, Kurds, Greeks, or Armenians.

By: Hejar

Hejar — Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:24:34 +0000

Metin !
I got neither defensive by your questin at all. I think my answer was clear enough. If by “Country” you mean a member state of United Nations, the answer is no, But the political identity seeking Movement derives its force and motivation from a country called Kurdistan and an oppresed people there.
During the past 100 years this struggle for recognition by “others” have been going on. It seems in some sections of KURDISTAN a kind of
sovereignty will be consolidated , not before long.
Hejar

By: Deborah Ann Dilley

Deborah Ann Dilley — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:21:31 +0000

The problem here gentleman is that I have to keep alot of people happy with my columns. Yes, there is no country of “Kurdistan”, but there is a region that fulfills that name. If I referred to specific areas by only the regional name of Kurdistan, I anger the Iraqis, the Syrians, the Turks, and the Iranians. If I refer to specific areas by the only the country name of where something takes place, I anger the Kurds. So I chose to refer to things in the redundant manner of things like Northern Iraq/Southern Kurdistan, so that I can keep everyone happy.

As this is an article devoted to reporting what is being covered in the Kurdish blogosphere I must refer to locations as in Kurdistan, because that is their worldview. And as I dislike getting angry emails and commments from people who are angry over the term Kurdistan I must also use the country name.

By: Amerikan Turk

Amerikan Turk — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 13:05:38 +0000

Metin, I’m pretty sure there will never be an East, West or Northern Kurdistan. However it might be time to stop calling Northern Iraq, “Southern Kurdistan”. It’s the closest thing to a ‘country’ of Kurdistan that we’re likely to ever see.. I hear it’s a beautiful and peaceful place, far removed from the carnage of the rest of Iraq.. What I wonder is whether significant numbers of Kurds from Turkey, Iraq or Syria are relocating there. Somehow I doubt it, because it’s probably more convenient to stay put and just continue to hate the “occupiers”, spit on their respective flags, fight guerilla warfare etc.

By: metin

metin — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:58:48 +0000

Hejar: My question was, ‘Is there a country called Kurdistan?’ Your reply talks about land and geographical space and fantasyland dimensions. Are your claims of Kurdistan any different than American Indian lands in which the USA is built and operates upon. Or ‘Babylon-land’ or ‘Hittite-land’ or Fantasyland in Disneyland.

Why do you get defensive when somene asks a question about ‘country’ hood versus neighbor-hood.

Please answer the question. Is there such a country as Kurdistan. If not, will there be one? And how do you see as its fruition if ‘you’ do nt respect the borders of the ‘countries’ that make up a wishful thinking Kurdistan?

By: Hejar

Hejar — Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:59:22 +0000

Yes there is a land called Kurdistan. The dynamic of oppression and
and its proactive encountring created a reality for a vast number of people, no matter their political affiliations or state citizenship.
They consider themslevs as Kurds and feel attachment and belonging to a geographycal space called Kurdistan.
If we tackle the issue from this perspective then the eventual debate on the question of self identification and legal aspects of that could be easily understood and not be rejected out right.
For Kurds, there is a diveded nation called Kurds and a place/land/country called Kurdistan
The “others” may accept and respect this reality, or reject it out of
ethnic prejudice and political motivation.
The International bodies, the present Nation/states as long as continue to ignore this reality , they certainly will not be able to
have harmony and peaceful lives for their “citizens” as a whole.
The modern Kurdish identity seeking movement to a great extend have been able to free itself from national prejudice and haterd.
When you respect the difference, you respect your identity in the first place.
HEJAR

By: metin

metin — Sat, 18 Nov 2006 18:28:11 +0000

Is there such a country as ‘Kurdistan?’

The post refers to “the flooding in Northern Kurdistan/Southeast Turkey.”

Also, if there is a Kurdistan, why is ‘Kurdistance’ under the ‘Turkey’ heading in Global Voices. If there isn’t, the same question applies. Or is ‘Kurdistan’ simply the existence of land strictly in Turkey alone?

Can someone explain?