Comments on: Arabisc: Sexual Harrassment and the Egyptian Blogosphere http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/ The world is talking. Are you listening? Thu, 03 Dec 2009 04:11:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Global Voices بالعربية » مصر: دعوة المدونين لعيد مليء بالمرح بدون تحرش http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/comment-page-1/#comment-1580321 Global Voices بالعربية » مصر: دعوة المدونين لعيد مليء بالمرح بدون تحرش Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:13:07 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/#comment-1580321 [...] الأمر كله يوم 25 من أكتوبر 2006، عندما شهدت مصر أول أكبر حادثة تحرش في أول يوم من عيد الأضحى [...] [...] الأمر كله يوم 25 من أكتوبر 2006، عندما شهدت مصر أول أكبر حادثة تحرش في أول يوم من عيد الأضحى [...]

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Egypt: Bloggers call for a fun-filled harassment-free Eid http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/comment-page-1/#comment-1580274 Global Voices Online » Egypt: Bloggers call for a fun-filled harassment-free Eid Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:13:15 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/#comment-1580274 [...] all started on October 25, 2006, when Egypt witnessed the first mass harassment incident on the first day of Eid Al Adha (Courban [...] [...] all started on October 25, 2006, when Egypt witnessed the first mass harassment incident on the first day of Eid Al Adha (Courban [...]

]]> By: À Casa j’ai pas vu Bush, mais j’ai parlé de Ben Ali « [fikra] فكرة http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/comment-page-1/#comment-1463166 À Casa j’ai pas vu Bush, mais j’ai parlé de Ben Ali « [fikra] فكرة Thu, 29 May 2008 16:44:45 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/#comment-1463166 [...] torture et le harcèlement sexuel en parlant du travail des blogueurs egyptiens à l'instar de Wael Abbas et MaLcoLM [...] [...] torture et le harcèlement sexuel en parlant du travail des blogueurs egyptiens à l’instar de Wael Abbas et MaLcoLM [...]

]]> By: eddie http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/comment-page-1/#comment-1208985 eddie Fri, 23 Nov 2007 22:11:56 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/#comment-1208985 Bull shit!! Bull shit!! look im arabic, i went, or i would say i almost lived in too many arabic countries, look im not gonna defend arabs, becuase im arabic, fact is fact i agree with facts even if its against me or against my tradetions, the stories are bull shit, arabs are the most respectfull people to women i see that every day, dont take it in a wrong way, things happens every where, but there is a big deferince between 2% and 90% that the things happens in defferint part of the world, i refer the 2% for the arabs and the other 90% for the west, and the west know that, so they dont want to be alone, so you would see all bad things about arabs fabricating stories, bullshit stories, that they are this, that are that, get over it we all know your the only one corrupt people in the world, so your waisting your time. Bull shit!! Bull shit!! look im arabic, i went, or i would say i almost lived in too many arabic countries, look im not gonna defend arabs, becuase im arabic, fact is fact i agree with facts even if its against me or against my tradetions, the stories are bull shit, arabs are the most respectfull people to women i see that every day, dont take it in a wrong way, things happens every where, but there is a big deferince between 2% and 90% that the things happens in defferint part of the world, i refer the 2% for the arabs and the other 90% for the west, and the west know that, so they dont want to be alone, so you would see all bad things about arabs fabricating stories, bullshit stories, that they are this, that are that, get over it we all know your the only one corrupt people in the world, so your waisting your time.

]]> By: SANDStorm » Blog Archive » Recent hot topic in Cairo http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/comment-page-1/#comment-329624 SANDStorm » Blog Archive » Recent hot topic in Cairo Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:10:08 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/#comment-329624 [...] Reporting of Eid assaults on Egyptian blogs (in English with links to Arabic-language blogs): Arabisc: Sexual Harrassment and the Egyptian Blogosphere (http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/) Global Voices Online, Monday, October 30, 2006 [...] [...] Reporting of Eid assaults on Egyptian blogs (in English with links to Arabic-language blogs): Arabisc: Sexual Harrassment and the Egyptian Blogosphere (http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/) Global Voices Online, Monday, October 30, 2006 [...]

]]> By: Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » Arabisc: Sexual Harrassment Saga Continues in Egypt http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/comment-page-1/#comment-326499 Global Voices Online » Blog Archive » Arabisc: Sexual Harrassment Saga Continues in Egypt Thu, 02 Nov 2006 20:01:57 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/#comment-326499 [...] It was only after bloggers brought a two-day orgy of sexual harrassment in downtown Cairo to the forefront that newspapers and television channels started dealing with the issue. [...] [...] It was only after bloggers brought a two-day orgy of sexual harrassment in downtown Cairo to the forefront that newspapers and television channels started dealing with the issue. [...]

]]> By: Amira Al Hussaini http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/comment-page-1/#comment-322269 Amira Al Hussaini Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:43:25 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/#comment-322269 Sorry ya Alaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Thanks for the clarification. Citizen journalism rocks! And I don't buy the story that the "reporters prepared their stuff a week before Eid and took a vacation." Being a 'double agent' and having worked as a journalist for years, most newspapers have a system where there are reporters on call and on duty during holidays ...unless you are trying to say that Egyptian papers operate differently! This also brings us to the main question you and many other bloggers have raised: Were the police on holiday too? Sorry ya Alaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Thanks for the clarification. Citizen journalism rocks! And I don’t buy the story that the “reporters prepared their stuff a week before Eid and took a vacation.” Being a ‘double agent’ and having worked as a journalist for years, most newspapers have a system where there are reporters on call and on duty during holidays …unless you are trying to say that Egyptian papers operate differently! This also brings us to the main question you and many other bloggers have raised: Were the police on holiday too?

]]> By: John Kactuz http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/comment-page-1/#comment-322060 John Kactuz Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:00:13 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/#comment-322060 It is all Bush's fault! Or could it be the repressed, bigoted and intolerant nature of Islamic societies. Witness the recent words of an Imam in Australia (but from Egypt) saying that uncovered women (ie, non-Muslims) are just like cat food and deserved to be raped. Why is anyone surprised? As radical Islam grows, it will not only attack non-Muslims, but even its own women. Look at the veil issue. Look at how womens' rights are being diminished in Islamic societies. This attitude is the result of the hate and anger in the Quran, and the many vile actions by Islam's great prophet, a man that murdered, tortured, plundeered, enslaved, raped and even beat his own wife - well, that is what Islam's own traditions (hadiths) tell us. Some examples: 1. Quote: Ibn 'Aun reported: ...The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) made a raid upon Banu Mustaliq while they were unaware and their cattle were having a drink at the water. He killed those who fought and imprisoned others. On that very day, he captured Juwairiya bint al-Harith. Muslim Book 019, Number 4292 - also in Bukhari). http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/019.smt.html#019.4321 2. Quote: Mohammed says… "Why is it, O ‘A’isha (his 9 year old wife!) that you are out of breath? I said: There is nothing. He said: Tell me or the Subtle and the Aware would inform me. I said: Messenger of Allah, may my father and mother be ransom for you, and then I told him (the whole story). He said: Was it the darkness (of your shadow) that I saw in front of me? I said: Yes. He struck me on the chest which caused me pain……. ," Muslim 4:2127. http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/004.smt.html#004.2127 3. Quote: Narrated Abdullah ibn AbuDhubab: Iyas ibn Abdullah ibn AbuDhubab reported the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) as saying: Do not beat Allah's handmaidens, but when Umar came to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and said: Women have become emboldened towards their husbands, he (the Prophet) gave permission to beat them. http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/abudawud/011.sat.html#011.2141 and so on.... The situation of women and non-Muslims in Islamic societies will not improve until Muslims are honest about the hate and violence in their religion. Indeed, Muslims suffer more than anybody under Islam. No wonder they are angry and frustrated. We do no favors to them or us if we pretend that these issues do not exist. Personally I am pessimistic. I do not think Islam or Muslims will be honest about these issues and so they will not change. Bad times are coming. Sad, very sad. Kactuz It is all Bush’s fault!

Or could it be the repressed, bigoted and intolerant nature of Islamic societies. Witness the recent words of an Imam in Australia (but from Egypt) saying that uncovered women (ie, non-Muslims) are just like cat food and deserved to be raped.

Why is anyone surprised? As radical Islam grows, it will not only attack non-Muslims, but even its own women. Look at the veil issue. Look at how womens’ rights are being diminished in Islamic societies.

This attitude is the result of the hate and anger in the Quran, and the many vile actions by Islam’s great prophet, a man that murdered, tortured, plundeered, enslaved, raped and even beat his own wife – well, that is what Islam’s own traditions (hadiths) tell us.

Some examples:
1. Quote: Ibn ‘Aun reported: …The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) made a raid upon Banu Mustaliq while they were unaware and their cattle were having a drink at the water. He killed those who fought and imprisoned others. On that very day, he captured Juwairiya bint al-Harith. Muslim Book 019, Number 4292 – also in Bukhari). http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/019.smt.html#019.4321

2. Quote: Mohammed says… “Why is it, O ‘A’isha (his 9 year old wife!) that you are out of breath? I said: There is nothing. He said: Tell me or the Subtle and the Aware would inform me. I said: Messenger of Allah, may my father and mother be ransom for you, and then I told him (the whole story). He said: Was it the darkness (of your shadow) that I saw in front of me? I said: Yes. He struck me on the chest which caused me pain……. ,” Muslim 4:2127.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/004.smt.html#004.2127

3. Quote: Narrated Abdullah ibn AbuDhubab: Iyas ibn Abdullah ibn AbuDhubab reported the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) as saying: Do not beat Allah’s handmaidens, but when Umar came to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and said: Women have become emboldened towards their husbands, he (the Prophet) gave permission to beat them. http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/abudawud/011.sat.html#011.2141

and so on….

The situation of women and non-Muslims in Islamic societies will not improve until Muslims are honest about the hate and violence in their religion. Indeed, Muslims suffer more than anybody under Islam. No wonder they are angry and frustrated.

We do no favors to them or us if we pretend that these issues do not exist. Personally I am pessimistic. I do not think Islam or Muslims will be honest about these issues and so they will not change. Bad times are coming. Sad, very sad.

Kactuz

]]> By: Alaa http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/comment-page-1/#comment-322003 Alaa Tue, 31 Oct 2006 05:40:28 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/#comment-322003 eh Alaa not Ala :-) the story was first reported on Malek's blog, 6 more bloggers confirmed what Malek reported and one blogger went downtown and interviewed shop owners in the area. for 5 days the story was raging on the blogosphere with more eye witness accounts, similar incidents reported or remembered and loads of explanations, analysis and debate yet not a single newspaper or tv channel touched the issue. yesterday Dream TV and Al Masry Al youm newspaper finally decided to report on the incident. so this is another case of citizen journalism breaking news that more traditional media missed. as for why traditional media ignored the story, there are speculations and rumors about government interference, but I think it has more to do with Eid vacation, it seems reporters prepared their stuff the week before eid and took a vacation. eh Alaa not Ala :-)

the story was first reported on Malek’s blog, 6 more bloggers confirmed what Malek reported and one blogger went downtown and interviewed shop owners in the area.

for 5 days the story was raging on the blogosphere with more eye witness accounts, similar incidents reported or remembered and loads of explanations, analysis and debate yet not a single newspaper or tv channel touched the issue.

yesterday Dream TV and Al Masry Al youm newspaper finally decided to report on the incident.

so this is another case of citizen journalism breaking news that more traditional media missed.

as for why traditional media ignored the story, there are speculations and rumors about government interference, but I think it has more to do with Eid vacation, it seems reporters prepared their stuff the week before eid and took a vacation.

]]> By: Animal urges at Antony Loewenstein http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/comment-page-1/#comment-321602 Animal urges at Antony Loewenstein Mon, 30 Oct 2006 23:23:10 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2006/10/30/arabisc-sexual-harrassment-and-the-egyptian-blogosphere/#comment-321602 [...] A disturbing tale from Egypt: [...] [...] A disturbing tale from Egypt: [...]

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