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		<title>By: El Oso &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bogota</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/06/26/the-state-of-creative-commons-in-latin-america/comment-page-2/#comment-1367357</link>
		<dc:creator>El Oso &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Bogota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to meet up with Carolina and &#193;lvaro. The last (and only) time I had seen Carolina was at iSummit &#8216;06 in Rio de Janeiro. She was almost always accompanied by Ariel, Jorge, and Eduardo. The four of them [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to meet up with Carolina and &Aacute;lvaro. The last (and only) time I had seen Carolina was at iSummit &#8216;06 in Rio de Janeiro. She was almost always accompanied by Ariel, Jorge, and Eduardo. The four of them [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanx a lot for the article. I am a great fan of different Latino music and I look for some cultural and artistic links, this information helped a lot. Often visit *http://dance-mp3.info/ for some records, most popular ones, and wanted to know smth about the cultural situation behind the scene</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanx a lot for the article. I am a great fan of different Latino music and I look for some cultural and artistic links, this information helped a lot. Often visit *http://dance-mp3.info/ for some records, most popular ones, and wanted to know smth about the cultural situation behind the scene</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca MacKinnon</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/06/26/the-state-of-creative-commons-in-latin-america/comment-page-1/#comment-285084</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca MacKinnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 03:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In our FAQ we write: &quot;We have no relationship with the U.S. government, other than trying not to violate its laws. We receive no money from the U.S. government or any other government and have no plans to do so. We receive no instructions from U.S. government officials and do not welcome instructions from any government.&quot;  Our FAQ is due for another update and we should probably move that section closer to the top. However I think that&#039;s pretty clear.

We think its great when any organization&#039;s website: governmental, non-governmental, corporate, or whatever, links to our content. The point of the CC license is that we want as many people to showcase our content as possible (as long as they credit and link back to the original GV posts) so that the bloggers we are aggregating get as much exposure and attention as possible. If some part of the U.S. government - or any government - wants to help us bring attention to the views of citizen bloggers around the world, that&#039;s great. We should encourage U.S. government agencies to pay a lot more attention to what people around the world think - they don&#039;t do it enough and should do it much more. Why would we want to prevent them from doing that? They are listing some of our country pages on a &quot;blog watch&quot; site. We aggregate blogs from countries the RFA covers. All they are doing is linking to our country pages. It&#039;s not like we are doing one iota of original work for them. Furthermore there is no common practice on the web - at least that I&#039;m aware of - of bloggers requiring compensation by people who want to link to them in their blogrolls or lists of recommended resources. Thus we don&#039;t feel that anybody who would accuse us of some underhanded U.S. government affiliation would have much of a leg to stand on if their primary &quot;evidence&quot; is the fact that a U.S. government-funded website links to us.

Conspiracy theories attempting to connect dots between GV and the U.S. government affiliations of certain Berkman fellows, and other suspicions created by the fact that we are housed in the U.S., are exactly why we are planning to spin GV out of the Berkman Center as an independent non-profit organization, which will not be U.S. based. Location still under discussion and investigation. Ethan discussed this on the community e-mail list recently, to which I believe you subscribe. 

Thanks for your concern about the way in which we are perceived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In our FAQ we write: &#8220;We have no relationship with the U.S. government, other than trying not to violate its laws. We receive no money from the U.S. government or any other government and have no plans to do so. We receive no instructions from U.S. government officials and do not welcome instructions from any government.&#8221;  Our FAQ is due for another update and we should probably move that section closer to the top. However I think that&#8217;s pretty clear.</p>
<p>We think its great when any organization&#8217;s website: governmental, non-governmental, corporate, or whatever, links to our content. The point of the CC license is that we want as many people to showcase our content as possible (as long as they credit and link back to the original GV posts) so that the bloggers we are aggregating get as much exposure and attention as possible. If some part of the U.S. government &#8211; or any government &#8211; wants to help us bring attention to the views of citizen bloggers around the world, that&#8217;s great. We should encourage U.S. government agencies to pay a lot more attention to what people around the world think &#8211; they don&#8217;t do it enough and should do it much more. Why would we want to prevent them from doing that? They are listing some of our country pages on a &#8220;blog watch&#8221; site. We aggregate blogs from countries the RFA covers. All they are doing is linking to our country pages. It&#8217;s not like we are doing one iota of original work for them. Furthermore there is no common practice on the web &#8211; at least that I&#8217;m aware of &#8211; of bloggers requiring compensation by people who want to link to them in their blogrolls or lists of recommended resources. Thus we don&#8217;t feel that anybody who would accuse us of some underhanded U.S. government affiliation would have much of a leg to stand on if their primary &#8220;evidence&#8221; is the fact that a U.S. government-funded website links to us.</p>
<p>Conspiracy theories attempting to connect dots between GV and the U.S. government affiliations of certain Berkman fellows, and other suspicions created by the fact that we are housed in the U.S., are exactly why we are planning to spin GV out of the Berkman Center as an independent non-profit organization, which will not be U.S. based. Location still under discussion and investigation. Ethan discussed this on the community e-mail list recently, to which I believe you subscribe. </p>
<p>Thanks for your concern about the way in which we are perceived.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Brayton</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/06/26/the-state-of-creative-commons-in-latin-america/comment-page-1/#comment-284740</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Brayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 19:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice that the CC licensing also permits the U.S. Broadcast Board of Governors to reuse your content on the Web sites of some of its &quot;public diplomacy&quot; broadcasts. 

Are you guys really comfortable with that? The appearance of carrying water for government policy positions would tend to undermine the &quot;journalism&quot; side of your reputation for &quot;journalistic innovation,&quot; wouldn&#039;t it? Especially as the Berkman Center has a number of fellows who have worked for the government in the past. Perhaps if you could tell us that you don&#039;t accept government funds for such uses, you could avoid that appearance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice that the CC licensing also permits the U.S. Broadcast Board of Governors to reuse your content on the Web sites of some of its &#8220;public diplomacy&#8221; broadcasts. </p>
<p>Are you guys really comfortable with that? The appearance of carrying water for government policy positions would tend to undermine the &#8220;journalism&#8221; side of your reputation for &#8220;journalistic innovation,&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t it? Especially as the Berkman Center has a number of fellows who have worked for the government in the past. Perhaps if you could tell us that you don&#8217;t accept government funds for such uses, you could avoid that appearance.</p>
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		<title>By: El Oso, El Moreno, and El Abogado &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Amateurism, Individualism, and Collectivism</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Oso, El Moreno, and El Abogado &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Amateurism, Individualism, and Collectivism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 22:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Those questions are not what took me to Rio de Janeiro for iSummit 2006, but as it turns out, the conference gave me insight into all three. iSummit is the annual conference of iCommons, which is the international umbrella body of Creative Commons. (My Global Voices report on iSummit is here). Creative Commons is two things: 1.) a legal framework which gives content creators (writers, musicians, directors, etc.) more flexibility in how they want to license their work and 2.) a movement of &#8220;commoners&#8221; that believe both culture and knowledge is, by nature, Hegelian. That is, the knowledge and the art we create is always influenced by, and based on, the artists and thinkers that came before us2. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Those questions are not what took me to Rio de Janeiro for iSummit 2006, but as it turns out, the conference gave me insight into all three. iSummit is the annual conference of iCommons, which is the international umbrella body of Creative Commons. (My Global Voices report on iSummit is here). Creative Commons is two things: 1.) a legal framework which gives content creators (writers, musicians, directors, etc.) more flexibility in how they want to license their work and 2.) a movement of &#8220;commoners&#8221; that believe both culture and knowledge is, by nature, Hegelian. That is, the knowledge and the art we create is always influenced by, and based on, the artists and thinkers that came before us2. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: t</title>
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		<dc:creator>t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 15:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a term translated here within brazilian activists is &quot;Criei, Tive Como&quot; that means something like I have created because I had means to do so..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a term translated here within brazilian activists is &#8220;Criei, Tive Como&#8221; that means something like I have created because I had means to do so..</p>
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		<title>By: NMM Business Continuity &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Creative Favela and the Market Makers of Ideas</title>
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		<dc:creator>NMM Business Continuity &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Creative Favela and the Market Makers of Ideas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 14:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The State of Creative Commons in Latin America (Global Voices Online): I&#8217;m following this with interest, of course, both because of the Brazil angle and because of the tie-in with the debate of the fragmentation &#8212; or &#8220;value-added ecological diversification,&#8221; depending on your point of view &#8211;of the &#8220;open source&#8221; license ecosystem. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The State of Creative Commons in Latin America (Global Voices Online): I&#8217;m following this with interest, of course, both because of the Brazil angle and because of the tie-in with the debate of the fragmentation &#8212; or &#8220;value-added ecological diversification,&#8221; depending on your point of view &#8211;of the &#8220;open source&#8221; license ecosystem. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RonaldoLemos</title>
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		<dc:creator>RonaldoLemos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 10:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Colin, thanks for your comments. Regarding the translation of &quot;commons&quot;, that is a hard one. There is an article I wrote some months ago that discusses this issue. You can find it here: http://www.inovacao.unicamp.br/report/Ronaldo-Lemos.pdf. But the word commons would be translated as &quot;rossio&quot;, which archaic and not really a legal term. In short, there is no perfect equivalent for commons under the Brazilian law. 

Regarding the public domain licenses, this is indeed because of the different legal traditions. Under the &quot;droit d&#039;auteur&quot; tradition, the so-called &quot;moral&quot; rights cannot be waived or assigned. Therefore, the functional equivalent to what &quot;public domain&quot; means in the US cannot be achieved in Brazil by means of a license. 

Finally, as to the location of the iSummit, the choice of the place was due exclusively to logistics. Believe me, we checked a couple dozen places and most were unavailable or were unfeasible in terms of logistics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Colin, thanks for your comments. Regarding the translation of &#8220;commons&#8221;, that is a hard one. There is an article I wrote some months ago that discusses this issue. You can find it here: <a href="http://www.inovacao.unicamp.br/report/Ronaldo-Lemos.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.inovacao.unicamp.br/report/Ronaldo-Lemos.pdf</a>. But the word commons would be translated as &#8220;rossio&#8221;, which archaic and not really a legal term. In short, there is no perfect equivalent for commons under the Brazilian law. </p>
<p>Regarding the public domain licenses, this is indeed because of the different legal traditions. Under the &#8220;droit d&#8217;auteur&#8221; tradition, the so-called &#8220;moral&#8221; rights cannot be waived or assigned. Therefore, the functional equivalent to what &#8220;public domain&#8221; means in the US cannot be achieved in Brazil by means of a license. </p>
<p>Finally, as to the location of the iSummit, the choice of the place was due exclusively to logistics. Believe me, we checked a couple dozen places and most were unavailable or were unfeasible in terms of logistics.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Brayton</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/06/26/the-state-of-creative-commons-in-latin-america/comment-page-1/#comment-158943</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Brayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 01:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that Mr. Lemos -- an eminent Harvard Law alum -- translated the license into Portuguese. May I ask: Why the choice to leave the term &quot;commons&quot; untranslated? 

Is there any equivalent term in Brazilian law, which has few elements of the English common law? 

ANd does that difference in legal tradition have anything to do with the fact that the Public Domain Dedication is inapplicable in Brazil, for example?
 
I ask this from sincere puzzlement, mind you: My father-in-law is a USP-educated corporate lawyer, and even he has not been able to explain to me what current problem in Brazilian intellectual property law something like this  might address. How might this untranslatability affect the acceptance and interpretation of CC licenses by Brazilian courts.

Certainly, I can understand how it might be beneficial to Brazilian cultural exports into markets where the CC means something different. 

And personally, I&#039;m all for that, having recently read Ruy Castro&#039;s biography of Carmen Miranda, which has some eye-popping stories about safadezas committed by Tin Pan Alley down South American Way in the 1930s ... 

Also, respectfully, I can&#039;t help being struck by how atypical of Brazilian public spaces was your choice of venue for the iCommons conference --  Copacabana in the Zona Sul.

I can understand why you might not want to hold it in Rocinha, but why not hold it at a SESC, for example -- or Rio&#039;s RITS, or a Casa de Cultura in Recife -- in a more representative Brazilian neighborhood? I think you may have misread the local publicity environment.

Not a few of the reactions I&#039;ve registered from my and my wife&#039;s combined Tupi blogging circles -- petistas and peemedebistas alike, I might add -- make ironic mention of the conference&#039;s proximity to Copacabana&#039;s infamous HELP, for example. 

As one friend commented, who&#039;s the CC-Br designed to benefit? Daslu? Or Daspu? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that Mr. Lemos &#8212; an eminent Harvard Law alum &#8212; translated the license into Portuguese. May I ask: Why the choice to leave the term &#8220;commons&#8221; untranslated? </p>
<p>Is there any equivalent term in Brazilian law, which has few elements of the English common law? </p>
<p>ANd does that difference in legal tradition have anything to do with the fact that the Public Domain Dedication is inapplicable in Brazil, for example?</p>
<p>I ask this from sincere puzzlement, mind you: My father-in-law is a USP-educated corporate lawyer, and even he has not been able to explain to me what current problem in Brazilian intellectual property law something like this  might address. How might this untranslatability affect the acceptance and interpretation of CC licenses by Brazilian courts.</p>
<p>Certainly, I can understand how it might be beneficial to Brazilian cultural exports into markets where the CC means something different. </p>
<p>And personally, I&#8217;m all for that, having recently read Ruy Castro&#8217;s biography of Carmen Miranda, which has some eye-popping stories about safadezas committed by Tin Pan Alley down South American Way in the 1930s &#8230; </p>
<p>Also, respectfully, I can&#8217;t help being struck by how atypical of Brazilian public spaces was your choice of venue for the iCommons conference &#8212;  Copacabana in the Zona Sul.</p>
<p>I can understand why you might not want to hold it in Rocinha, but why not hold it at a SESC, for example &#8212; or Rio&#8217;s RITS, or a Casa de Cultura in Recife &#8212; in a more representative Brazilian neighborhood? I think you may have misread the local publicity environment.</p>
<p>Not a few of the reactions I&#8217;ve registered from my and my wife&#8217;s combined Tupi blogging circles &#8212; petistas and peemedebistas alike, I might add &#8212; make ironic mention of the conference&#8217;s proximity to Copacabana&#8217;s infamous HELP, for example. </p>
<p>As one friend commented, who&#8217;s the CC-Br designed to benefit? Daslu? Or Daspu? :-)</p>
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		<title>By: RonaldoLemos</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/06/26/the-state-of-creative-commons-in-latin-america/comment-page-1/#comment-151416</link>
		<dc:creator>RonaldoLemos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jose Murilo and David. Thank you so much for your article about the commons in LA. I still cannot believe how extraordinary and how &quot;tropicalist&quot; the iSummit was. There are so many opportunities for cooperation and for new projects coming out of the iSummit. And above all, I hope to see you guys in Croatia next year. 

All the best,

Ronaldo Lemos
CC-Brazil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jose Murilo and David. Thank you so much for your article about the commons in LA. I still cannot believe how extraordinary and how &#8220;tropicalist&#8221; the iSummit was. There are so many opportunities for cooperation and for new projects coming out of the iSummit. And above all, I hope to see you guys in Croatia next year. </p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Ronaldo Lemos<br />
CC-Brazil</p>
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		<title>By: ARIEL VERCELLI</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/06/26/the-state-of-creative-commons-in-latin-america/comment-page-1/#comment-149698</link>
		<dc:creator>ARIEL VERCELLI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] El iCommons Summit 2006 dejó para América Latina una impresión mucho más concreta de la posición que la región tiene a nivel global. A los que ya estabamos en el proceso de Creative Commons se sumó gente de Guatemala, Puerto Rico y Ecuador. Ya están apareciendo las primeras impresiones del evento en Internet y me gustó mucho el artículo de Jose Murilo Junior and David Sasaki en Global Voices &#8220;The State of Creative Commons in Latin America&#8220;. Creo que leerlo me dío ganas de ver que más había dando vueltas sobre el summit. Yo también escribí algo desde Rio en este blog y algo más en Aprender la Libertad 1, 2 y 3. Lamento no haber podido postear más, quería hacerlo, pero la conexión era un horror o había que pagarla  . A la segunda vez que no pude ingresar decidí tomarme las cosas con calma. Sin embargo, también Carolina Botero 1 y 2 [Colombia], Eduardo Arcos [Ecuador], Claudio Ruiz [Chile] y Andrés Guadamuz [UK y Costa Rica] cubrieron parte del evento. Seguro que me estoy olvidando de gente pero los sumaré en estos días.        Sin Comentarios hasta ahora       Deje un Comentario Los saltos de línea y de párrafo son automáticos, la dirección de e-mail nunca se muestra, HTML permitido: &lt;a href=&quot;&quot; title=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;abbr title=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;acronym title=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;b&gt; &lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt; &lt;code&gt; &lt;em&gt; &lt;i&gt; &lt;strike&gt; &lt;strong&gt; [...]</p>
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