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	<title>Comments on: China: June 4th:Silence, Memorial and Blogger&#039;s Saying</title>
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		<title>By: jm</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/06/04/china-june-4thsilence-memorial-and-bloggers-saying/comment-page-3/#comment-1506050</link>
		<dc:creator>jm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel that it is important for the government to allow the Chinese people access to media concerning the incident. Only when people know the truth, can they learn from past mistakes on move on, in a positive direction. China has made such amazing and rapid development since that time, globally recognized with the 2008 Olympics, but this still remains to taint their history and their current image. Cover ups do not make for a positive view of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that it is important for the government to allow the Chinese people access to media concerning the incident. Only when people know the truth, can they learn from past mistakes on move on, in a positive direction. China has made such amazing and rapid development since that time, globally recognized with the 2008 Olympics, but this still remains to taint their history and their current image. Cover ups do not make for a positive view of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/06/04/china-june-4thsilence-memorial-and-bloggers-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-1195576</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well,guyetingyu,I&#039;m a chinese but I have to say you are a loyal dog of the corrupted communist party,we shall see who the winner of history will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well,guyetingyu,I&#8217;m a chinese but I have to say you are a loyal dog of the corrupted communist party,we shall see who the winner of history will be.</p>
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		<title>By: hxin</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/06/04/china-june-4thsilence-memorial-and-bloggers-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-1195538</link>
		<dc:creator>hxin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am a chinese university student.many of my classmates know TIANANMEN MOvement. thinking of the international conditions in 1989, we can&#039;t say the movement has nothing to do with the foreign country.
the most important,we are living a happy live.and the democracy has increased so much in the past years,especially in the last ten years.
yeah,just let pass!we look forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am a chinese university student.many of my classmates know TIANANMEN MOvement. thinking of the international conditions in 1989, we can&#8217;t say the movement has nothing to do with the foreign country.<br />
the most important,we are living a happy live.and the democracy has increased so much in the past years,especially in the last ten years.<br />
yeah,just let pass!we look forward.</p>
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		<title>By: guyetingyu</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/06/04/china-june-4thsilence-memorial-and-bloggers-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-1193495</link>
		<dc:creator>guyetingyu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 05:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing surprised for a foreigner to understand.To any government,especially in China,anyone who is unarmed to protest the government is illegal.Government&#039;s behavior is just to go on their administration.And that&#039;s nothing.I have a classmate whose brother was studing in Beijing University.He and his brother all admit that if the brother didn&#039;t go home,he would have also joined in the so-called &quot;movement&quot;which made a number of talents who could lead a happy life at present!The tragedy has passed.Why could many foreiners help our Chinese who are still in poverty to be out of the present condition.Our Chinese will all thank you,the dead in the tragedy included!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing surprised for a foreigner to understand.To any government,especially in China,anyone who is unarmed to protest the government is illegal.Government&#8217;s behavior is just to go on their administration.And that&#8217;s nothing.I have a classmate whose brother was studing in Beijing University.He and his brother all admit that if the brother didn&#8217;t go home,he would have also joined in the so-called &#8220;movement&#8221;which made a number of talents who could lead a happy life at present!The tragedy has passed.Why could many foreiners help our Chinese who are still in poverty to be out of the present condition.Our Chinese will all thank you,the dead in the tragedy included!</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/06/04/china-june-4thsilence-memorial-and-bloggers-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-1193341</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 20:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Frank for speaking out. I&#039;m not Chinese but after learning about this tragedy and the way some Chinese people either do not know about it or deny it ever happened, I had to see for myself. Some of the people that have commented surprise me. That is how foriegn this concept of covering up murder is to me. How can some of them argue that they are peaceful and harmonious when they are just ignorant? One cannot claim to have a perfect life just because you pretended the bad does not exist. How can you grow if you don&#039;t acknowlege mistakes? How can you sleep at night knowing you are pretending all those people never died? Was their death for nothing? Please help me understand your views. I want to understand.

Best wishes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Frank for speaking out. I&#8217;m not Chinese but after learning about this tragedy and the way some Chinese people either do not know about it or deny it ever happened, I had to see for myself. Some of the people that have commented surprise me. That is how foriegn this concept of covering up murder is to me. How can some of them argue that they are peaceful and harmonious when they are just ignorant? One cannot claim to have a perfect life just because you pretended the bad does not exist. How can you grow if you don&#8217;t acknowlege mistakes? How can you sleep at night knowing you are pretending all those people never died? Was their death for nothing? Please help me understand your views. I want to understand.</p>
<p>Best wishes.</p>
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		<title>By: in memoriam</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/06/04/china-june-4thsilence-memorial-and-bloggers-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-1191376</link>
		<dc:creator>in memoriam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 00:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>still cant see online memorial or obituary of victims posted in 
http://www.tolive4ever.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>still cant see online memorial or obituary of victims posted in<br />
<a href="http://www.tolive4ever.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tolive4ever.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: konstant</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/06/04/china-june-4thsilence-memorial-and-bloggers-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-1190946</link>
		<dc:creator>konstant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes someone passed , but they still can be remembered</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes someone passed , but they still can be remembered</p>
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		<title>By: Online Memorial and obituaries</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/06/04/china-june-4thsilence-memorial-and-bloggers-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-1190942</link>
		<dc:creator>Online Memorial and obituaries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there an online memorial and obituaries published in the internet like 
http://www.tolive4ever.com
regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there an online memorial and obituaries published in the internet like<br />
<a href="http://www.tolive4ever.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tolive4ever.com</a><br />
regards</p>
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		<title>By: guyetingyu</title>
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		<dc:creator>guyetingyu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 21:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The students who has been taught to do so by America in Tiananmen Square are foolish!So are those people who are always not able to forget this thing which is not popular in China.There are always some foreigners who make use of the foolish tragedy to attack China!As a Chinese,I have to say that  you don&#039;t have the right to say anything in the Chinese affair!We Chinese pay more attention to our harmonious life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The students who has been taught to do so by America in Tiananmen Square are foolish!So are those people who are always not able to forget this thing which is not popular in China.There are always some foreigners who make use of the foolish tragedy to attack China!As a Chinese,I have to say that  you don&#8217;t have the right to say anything in the Chinese affair!We Chinese pay more attention to our harmonious life!</p>
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		<title>By: wang  yu</title>
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		<dc:creator>wang  yu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 11:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>something has passed ,let it passed.
man should look forword.And try to do the better.
love peace.
I believe the CHINA goverment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>something has passed ,let it passed.<br />
man should look forword.And try to do the better.<br />
love peace.<br />
I believe the CHINA goverment.</p>
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		<title>By: d</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/06/04/china-june-4thsilence-memorial-and-bloggers-saying/comment-page-2/#comment-1184346</link>
		<dc:creator>d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let it gone with the time,ok?

why not give chinese peace happy world .!!!?close all your mouth
our chinese people feel and enjoy  so good life at now,do you want to break it?
if you do not want it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let it gone with the time,ok?</p>
<p>why not give chinese peace happy world .!!!?close all your mouth<br />
our chinese people feel and enjoy  so good life at now,do you want to break it?<br />
if you do not want it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 王</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/06/04/china-june-4thsilence-memorial-and-bloggers-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-680046</link>
		<dc:creator>王</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 12:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>在中国所有的搜索引擎都找不到有关六四的信息，所有网站、论坛……信不信由你
Believe it or not,you can&#039;t find any information about &quot;June 4th&quot; on all website or bbs.
&quot;June 4th&quot; is told the so-called &quot;The sensitive phrase remit&quot; when pressed on the Internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>在中国所有的搜索引擎都找不到有关六四的信息，所有网站、论坛……信不信由你<br />
Believe it or not,you can&#8217;t find any information about &#8220;June 4th&#8221; on all website or bbs.<br />
&#8220;June 4th&#8221; is told the so-called &#8220;The sensitive phrase remit&#8221; when pressed on the Internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Netlex Blogs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; France - Chine : une affaire d&#8217;Etat</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/06/04/china-june-4thsilence-memorial-and-bloggers-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-103120</link>
		<dc:creator>Netlex Blogs &#187; Blog Archive &#187; France - Chine : une affaire d&#8217;Etat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 19:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] China: June 4th:Silence, Memorial and Blogger’s Saying [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] China: June 4th:Silence, Memorial and Blogger’s Saying [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bobby fletcher</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/06/04/china-june-4thsilence-memorial-and-bloggers-saying/comment-page-1/#comment-99887</link>
		<dc:creator>bobby fletcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 19:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to offer couple more reference in addition to PBS Frontline&#039;s &quot;The Tank Man&quot;, where it reported the fact Chinese government did investigate this, and release casualty figure of 240 some dead (incidentally in-line with our own NSA intel estimate.)

An article by Gregory Clark on pack journalism:

http://mparent7777.livejournal.com/7702519.html

&quot;the so-called massacre was in fact a mini civil war as irate Beijing citizens sought to stop initially unarmed soldiers sent to remove students who had been demonstrating freely in the square for weeks. When the soldiers finally reached the square there was no massacre.&quot;

An article by Columbia Journal Review on passive journalism:

http://archives.cjr.org/year/98/5/tiananmen.asp

&quot;as far as can be determined from the available evidence, no one died that night in Tiananmen Square.
...
Hundreds of people, most of them workers and passersby, did die that night, but in a different place and under different circumstances.&quot;

[Just for reference, throwing molotov cocktail at riot police is a crime in US.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to offer couple more reference in addition to PBS Frontline&#8217;s &#8220;The Tank Man&#8221;, where it reported the fact Chinese government did investigate this, and release casualty figure of 240 some dead (incidentally in-line with our own NSA intel estimate.)</p>
<p>An article by Gregory Clark on pack journalism:</p>
<p><a href="http://mparent7777.livejournal.com/7702519.html" rel="nofollow">http://mparent7777.livejournal.com/7702519.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;the so-called massacre was in fact a mini civil war as irate Beijing citizens sought to stop initially unarmed soldiers sent to remove students who had been demonstrating freely in the square for weeks. When the soldiers finally reached the square there was no massacre.&#8221;</p>
<p>An article by Columbia Journal Review on passive journalism:</p>
<p><a href="http://archives.cjr.org/year/98/5/tiananmen.asp" rel="nofollow">http://archives.cjr.org/year/98/5/tiananmen.asp</a></p>
<p>&#8220;as far as can be determined from the available evidence, no one died that night in Tiananmen Square.<br />
&#8230;<br />
Hundreds of people, most of them workers and passersby, did die that night, but in a different place and under different circumstances.&#8221;</p>
<p>[Just for reference, throwing molotov cocktail at riot police is a crime in US.]</p>
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		<title>By: Toasted Bread &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tiannamen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toasted Bread &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tiannamen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 12:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You can read also Global Voices Online and see how the Square is today. [...]</description>
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