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	<title>Comments on: African Diaspora: Hard times for Africans in France and Belgium</title>
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		<title>By: Champ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Champ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 00:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Johan, but you are mistaken big time. Your problem is that Zimbabwe is not getting rid of Mugabe and that&#039;s a Western problem. Mugabe himself is only 1 man. The problem is bigger than that. The West&#039;s attitude towards Zimbabweans is a disgrace to say the least. When Mugabe dies, the West will be happy but it will be a sad day for Africans.

Why didn&#039;t the Americans get rid of Bush the war criminal and tyrant? One man is never the problem. The west just has scores to settle with Mugabe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Johan, but you are mistaken big time. Your problem is that Zimbabwe is not getting rid of Mugabe and that&#8217;s a Western problem. Mugabe himself is only 1 man. The problem is bigger than that. The West&#8217;s attitude towards Zimbabweans is a disgrace to say the least. When Mugabe dies, the West will be happy but it will be a sad day for Africans.</p>
<p>Why didn&#8217;t the Americans get rid of Bush the war criminal and tyrant? One man is never the problem. The west just has scores to settle with Mugabe.</p>
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		<title>By: Johan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 10:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look what is happening South Africa. Slowly(?) but surely they are sliding down the drain. Education, health, police everything is corrupt. If the west talk about it they want to solve it the african way. And when it fails the west must bail them out. Zimbabwe, why cant they get rid of the tyran. They rather flee to south africa.Always the easy way out. No brians to solve their problems. If they dont get their way they kill or vandalize it. And the west always get involve. Why not leave them cut comunication tie to africa. Come back in 100 yrs and start all over again. Africa should be seen as a game reserve for the rest of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look what is happening South Africa. Slowly(?) but surely they are sliding down the drain. Education, health, police everything is corrupt. If the west talk about it they want to solve it the african way. And when it fails the west must bail them out. Zimbabwe, why cant they get rid of the tyran. They rather flee to south africa.Always the easy way out. No brians to solve their problems. If they dont get their way they kill or vandalize it. And the west always get involve. Why not leave them cut comunication tie to africa. Come back in 100 yrs and start all over again. Africa should be seen as a game reserve for the rest of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: LRRP</title>
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		<dc:creator>LRRP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why do u go to other countries when you have a country of your own? i mean its alright if u r doing as a high skilled labourer. for example my dad was invited by University of Uppsala for assisting a team of researchers there but soon as he did it he came back home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why do u go to other countries when you have a country of your own? i mean its alright if u r doing as a high skilled labourer. for example my dad was invited by University of Uppsala for assisting a team of researchers there but soon as he did it he came back home.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Conrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the US, Mexican Americans are the equivalent of Muslim immigrants in Europe. The US &#039;Captains of Industry&#039; have used and continue to use &#039;Chicanos&#039; to break American Unions. This is particularly true in the meat industry (Swift, Hormel, Tyson Foods, etc.).

Only the Wealthy and the Euro-American &#039;near-do-wells&#039; wants &#039;Chicano&#039; immigrants in the US to break and keep out unions, suppress wages and generate low-cost profts.
Bush and his Oil Buddies would have &#039;Chicanos&#039; working on every Oil Rig in the US if they could! Otherwise, he and the other US wealthy would shoot &#039;em on sight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the US, Mexican Americans are the equivalent of Muslim immigrants in Europe. The US &#8216;Captains of Industry&#8217; have used and continue to use &#8216;Chicanos&#8217; to break American Unions. This is particularly true in the meat industry (Swift, Hormel, Tyson Foods, etc.).</p>
<p>Only the Wealthy and the Euro-American &#8216;near-do-wells&#8217; wants &#8216;Chicano&#8217; immigrants in the US to break and keep out unions, suppress wages and generate low-cost profts.<br />
Bush and his Oil Buddies would have &#8216;Chicanos&#8217; working on every Oil Rig in the US if they could! Otherwise, he and the other US wealthy would shoot &#8216;em on sight!</p>
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		<title>By: Daphne Haour-Hidalgo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daphne Haour-Hidalgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 05:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is an article on a French immigration law that will &quot;force&quot; African immigrants to &quot;integrate&quot; into French society:

BBC: French immigration bill approved

The proposed law... requires immigrants from outside the European Union to sign a contract agreeing to learn French and to respect the principles of the French Republic, and makes it more difficult for them to bring their families over to join them.

	
PROPOSED NEW RULES
• Only the qualified get &quot;skills and talents&quot; residency permit
• Foreigners only allowed in to work, not live off benefits
• Foreign spouses to wait longer for residence cards
• Migrants must agree to learn French
• Migrants must sign &#039;contract&#039; respecting French way of life
• Scraps law on workers getting citizenship after 10 years

Mr Sarkozy has argued that riots by youths in immigrant suburbs across France last November showed the system of immigration and integration was failing.

He says France, like a number of other Western countries, needs to choose the immigrants it needs.

Most immigrants living in France come from its former African colonies.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5089744.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an article on a French immigration law that will &#8220;force&#8221; African immigrants to &#8220;integrate&#8221; into French society:</p>
<p>BBC: French immigration bill approved</p>
<p>The proposed law&#8230; requires immigrants from outside the European Union to sign a contract agreeing to learn French and to respect the principles of the French Republic, and makes it more difficult for them to bring their families over to join them.</p>
<p>PROPOSED NEW RULES<br />
• Only the qualified get &#8220;skills and talents&#8221; residency permit<br />
• Foreigners only allowed in to work, not live off benefits<br />
• Foreign spouses to wait longer for residence cards<br />
• Migrants must agree to learn French<br />
• Migrants must sign &#8216;contract&#8217; respecting French way of life<br />
• Scraps law on workers getting citizenship after 10 years</p>
<p>Mr Sarkozy has argued that riots by youths in immigrant suburbs across France last November showed the system of immigration and integration was failing.</p>
<p>He says France, like a number of other Western countries, needs to choose the immigrants it needs.</p>
<p>Most immigrants living in France come from its former African colonies.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5089744.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5089744.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: safiya</title>
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		<dc:creator>safiya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2006 15:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a lie to say that there are millions of south americans in europe! The few south americans that are in Europe are educated and from urban areas and can succeed in Europe. The poor of south america do not go to europe-they go to america. Most moslem immigrants in europe are the  rural poor in their home country. They would have had a difficult time making it in their own country let alone europe. Europe does not promote economic integration of children of immigrants. There are too many barriers against immigrants to obtaining higher education and good paying jobs. The truth is Europe wants the childern of immigrants to keep working in low skilled poor paying jobs like their parents did. Europe&#039;s economy is closed and inflexible unlike the economy of the united states.

Europeans have always been intolerant of religious and racial miniorities-case in point, look what happened to the jews and gypsies!

Stop blaming islam for your bigotry. Europeans are bigoted towards african christians as well. 


Old old Europe-you need to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a lie to say that there are millions of south americans in europe! The few south americans that are in Europe are educated and from urban areas and can succeed in Europe. The poor of south america do not go to europe-they go to america. Most moslem immigrants in europe are the  rural poor in their home country. They would have had a difficult time making it in their own country let alone europe. Europe does not promote economic integration of children of immigrants. There are too many barriers against immigrants to obtaining higher education and good paying jobs. The truth is Europe wants the childern of immigrants to keep working in low skilled poor paying jobs like their parents did. Europe&#8217;s economy is closed and inflexible unlike the economy of the united states.</p>
<p>Europeans have always been intolerant of religious and racial miniorities-case in point, look what happened to the jews and gypsies!</p>
<p>Stop blaming islam for your bigotry. Europeans are bigoted towards african christians as well. </p>
<p>Old old Europe-you need to change.</p>
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		<title>By: john arthur</title>
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		<dc:creator>john arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 17:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is both complex and simple.  There are millions of Latin Americans in Europe and they get along just fine - they work, they learn the languages and they marry Europeans.  Even Far Asians integrate. Europe&#039;s immigration problem can be identified in one word: Islam.   There is within Islam a core of hate and anger that cannot be controlled. Add to this the stupid doctrine of multiculturalism, and you have a time bomb.  Throw in the welfare state, and the fuse is lit.  Forget the politically correct &quot;Europe is evil&quot; &quot;Europe needs to do more&quot; and &quot;racism&quot; explanations. If you want to find the primary problem, look at the Quran and what they teach in the mosques.  There, yes, you will find your hate and racism.  Consider the life and teaching of Muhammad.  This man did so many vile things, yet as we have seen in the cartoon controversy he not only cannot be criticized, but must even be respected - so much that freedom of speech is supressed. Islam stands for everything that is contrary to Western civilization and 500 years of enlightenment. 

Musims, once they reach a certain population level, cannot be integrated.  They do not want to be integrated.  They want control. There is nothing Europe can do that will make Muslims happy, except dhimmitude. Bad times are coming for Europe.  It was slept with the devil and now must pay the price.  

John arthur, aka kactuzkid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is both complex and simple.  There are millions of Latin Americans in Europe and they get along just fine &#8211; they work, they learn the languages and they marry Europeans.  Even Far Asians integrate. Europe&#8217;s immigration problem can be identified in one word: Islam.   There is within Islam a core of hate and anger that cannot be controlled. Add to this the stupid doctrine of multiculturalism, and you have a time bomb.  Throw in the welfare state, and the fuse is lit.  Forget the politically correct &#8220;Europe is evil&#8221; &#8220;Europe needs to do more&#8221; and &#8220;racism&#8221; explanations. If you want to find the primary problem, look at the Quran and what they teach in the mosques.  There, yes, you will find your hate and racism.  Consider the life and teaching of Muhammad.  This man did so many vile things, yet as we have seen in the cartoon controversy he not only cannot be criticized, but must even be respected &#8211; so much that freedom of speech is supressed. Islam stands for everything that is contrary to Western civilization and 500 years of enlightenment. </p>
<p>Musims, once they reach a certain population level, cannot be integrated.  They do not want to be integrated.  They want control. There is nothing Europe can do that will make Muslims happy, except dhimmitude. Bad times are coming for Europe.  It was slept with the devil and now must pay the price.  </p>
<p>John arthur, aka kactuzkid</p>
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		<title>By: Daphne Haour-Hidalgo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daphne Haour-Hidalgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 13:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of France&#039;s immigrants do the dirty work that French people do not like to do. The French don&#039;t want them, but they need them. 

The North Africans are ostrasised for many reasons, but paramount among these reasons is that they, in general, do not want to integrate with the French society. They make very little effort to adapt to their host country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of France&#8217;s immigrants do the dirty work that French people do not like to do. The French don&#8217;t want them, but they need them. </p>
<p>The North Africans are ostrasised for many reasons, but paramount among these reasons is that they, in general, do not want to integrate with the French society. They make very little effort to adapt to their host country.</p>
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		<title>By: antropologi.info - anthropology in the news (new)</title>
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		<dc:creator>antropologi.info - anthropology in the news (new)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 09:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;More Global Apartheid?&lt;/strong&gt;

In my previous post, I&#039;ve quoted anthropologist Owen Sichone about the concept of  &quot;Global apartheid&quot;: 

Whatever the advantages of apartness are (more economic than cultural), the South African system came to an end just as the rest of the world ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>More Global Apartheid?</strong></p>
<p>In my previous post, I&#8217;ve quoted anthropologist Owen Sichone about the concept of  &#8220;Global apartheid&#8221;: </p>
<p>Whatever the advantages of apartness are (more economic than cultural), the South African system came to an end just as the rest of the world &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: elle</title>
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		<dc:creator>elle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 08:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a great post I found on Sarkozy and Immigration. It is in French, but it is worth reading. The url for the link is www.franceglobal.com/2006/02/sarkozy_immigra.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a great post I found on Sarkozy and Immigration. It is in French, but it is worth reading. The url for the link is <a href="http://www.franceglobal.com/2006/02/sarkozy_immigra.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.franceglobal.com/2006/02/sarkozy_immigra.html</a></p>
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