Comments on: Kurdistance: Echoes of Violence, Identity and the New Year http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/03/29/kurdistance-echoes-of-violence-identity-and-the-new-year/ The world is talking. Are you listening? Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:02:55 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: metin http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/03/29/kurdistance-echoes-of-violence-identity-and-the-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-32347 metin Sun, 02 Apr 2006 17:45:46 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/?p=8338#comment-32347 Winston: Why would you think I would not know about the Geneva Conference. What makes you think I would condone such a thing. However, I think we need to review the real deep meaning of war, and the scars it causes on all civilians, military or otherwise, as well as the 'book smarts vs. street smarts' approaches taken by warring societies, irregardless of any convention. What constitutes a 'war?' Can wars be fought only by nations or peoples? Are wars fought strictly by a military action. Can they also be caused by economic and psychological weapons of mass frustration? I think you missed the point! Winston: Why would you think I would not know about the Geneva Conference. What makes you think I would condone such a thing.

However, I think we need to review the real deep meaning of war, and the scars it causes on all civilians, military or otherwise, as well as the ‘book smarts vs. street smarts’ approaches taken by warring societies, irregardless of any convention. What constitutes a ‘war?’ Can wars be fought only by nations or peoples?

Are wars fought strictly by a military action. Can they also be caused by economic and psychological weapons of mass frustration?

I think you missed the point!

]]> By: Winston http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/03/29/kurdistance-echoes-of-violence-identity-and-the-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-32234 Winston Sun, 02 Apr 2006 03:53:38 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/?p=8338#comment-32234 Civilians are always INNOCENT in a military campaign! They have no guilt to get punished for or killed for, therefore they are innocent and shouldn't be targeted for military purposes. Bombing civilians is not only immoral, it's ineffective. I draw your attention to Geneva Convention regarding the definition of Innocent/civilian in a military campaign. Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/92.htm Civilians are always INNOCENT in a military campaign!

They have no guilt to get punished for or killed for, therefore they are innocent and shouldn’t be targeted for military purposes.

Bombing civilians is not only immoral, it’s ineffective.

I draw your attention to Geneva Convention regarding the definition of Innocent/civilian in a military campaign.

Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War

http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/92.htm

]]> By: metin http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/03/29/kurdistance-echoes-of-violence-identity-and-the-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-32066 metin Sat, 01 Apr 2006 05:43:55 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/?p=8338#comment-32066 Winston: I wonder why Saddam dropped bombs on innocent people? Is it the same reason the Turks committed 'genocide' on Armenian civilians? Was it also innocent people that were killed 'innocently' when the Turkish military campaign to fight the 'terror' generated by some Kurdish factions or when Kurdish 'insurgents' kill innocent people of Turkish descent. If they (the ones killed) are Kurds but Turkish citizens, do they qualify as innocent Turks or Kurds? What makes people innocent? Is it because they are civilian? And are they only 'innocent' if they are a 'minority?' Of course, these are rhetorical questions. Winston: I wonder why Saddam dropped bombs on innocent people? Is it the same reason the Turks committed ‘genocide’ on Armenian civilians? Was it also innocent people that were killed ‘innocently’ when the Turkish military campaign to fight the ‘terror’ generated by some Kurdish factions or when Kurdish ‘insurgents’ kill innocent people of Turkish descent. If they (the ones killed) are Kurds but Turkish citizens, do they qualify as innocent Turks or Kurds? What makes people innocent? Is it because they are civilian? And are they only ‘innocent’ if they are a ‘minority?’ Of course, these are rhetorical questions.

]]> By: Oz Kanka http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/03/29/kurdistance-echoes-of-violence-identity-and-the-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-31571 Oz Kanka Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:23:05 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/?p=8338#comment-31571 The Azeris are a pretty massive minority in Iran. Percentage-wise they are larger than the Kurds in Iraq The Azeris are a pretty massive minority in Iran. Percentage-wise they are larger than the Kurds in Iraq

]]> By: Winston http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/03/29/kurdistance-echoes-of-violence-identity-and-the-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-31485 Winston Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:08:13 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/?p=8338#comment-31485 Metin, you ought to watch the real footage of the Iraqi air raid on Halabja which shows Iraqi AF aircrafts dropping CW on innocent people! Deborah, there are other minorities in Iran that SHOULD be heard as well and GVO doesn't cover them very well! Metin, you ought to watch the real footage of the Iraqi air raid on Halabja which shows Iraqi AF aircrafts dropping CW on innocent people!

Deborah, there are other minorities in Iran that SHOULD be heard as well and GVO doesn’t cover them very well!

]]> By: Deborah Ann Dilley http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/03/29/kurdistance-echoes-of-violence-identity-and-the-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-31447 Deborah Ann Dilley Fri, 31 Mar 2006 02:54:02 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/?p=8338#comment-31447 Winston, I am sure that there are other minorities in Iran, I however deal only with the Middle Eastern ethnic minority of the Kurdish peoples. My purpose is not to bash Iran, Iraq, Turkey or Syria or any other country that has a Kurdish population, I only report on what the Kurdish people are saying. Metin, my friend, oh the theories abound as to whether it was Iraq or Iran at fault for Halapja. Both versions have some credibility, however as I understand it the official UN and US line is that Saddam's regime was at fault. I don't believe that the Iran theory/version of the story has been or ever was fully accepted by any government or governmental entity. Winston, I am sure that there are other minorities in Iran, I however deal only with the Middle Eastern ethnic minority of the Kurdish peoples. My purpose is not to bash Iran, Iraq, Turkey or Syria or any other country that has a Kurdish population, I only report on what the Kurdish people are saying.

Metin, my friend, oh the theories abound as to whether it was Iraq or Iran at fault for Halapja. Both versions have some credibility, however as I understand it the official UN and US line is that Saddam’s regime was at fault. I don’t believe that the Iran theory/version of the story has been or ever was fully accepted by any government or governmental entity.

]]> By: Winston http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/03/29/kurdistance-echoes-of-violence-identity-and-the-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-31009 Winston Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:32:07 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/?p=8338#comment-31009 Are there any other minorities in Iran too? Are there any other minorities in Iran too?

]]> By: metin http://globalvoicesonline.org/2006/03/29/kurdistance-echoes-of-violence-identity-and-the-new-year/comment-page-1/#comment-30942 metin Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:45:36 +0000 http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/?p=8338#comment-30942 Is it true that there's controversy surrounding the issue of whether Iran was behind the 'Halapja' campaign and not Saddam and Iraq? Did the official 'U.S.' version of that story change after it became clear that we had to get Saddam out of there, because of the 'WMD?' issue? Is it true that there’s controversy surrounding the issue of whether Iran was behind the ‘Halapja’ campaign and not Saddam and Iraq? Did the official ‘U.S.’ version of that story change after it became clear that we had to get Saddam out of there, because of the ‘WMD?’ issue?

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