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	<title>Comments on: Khalid Jarrar: Iraqi blogger detained</title>
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		<title>By: RGLOVE</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2005/07/15/khalid-jarar-iraqi-blogger-detained/comment-page-3/#comment-2946</link>
		<dc:creator>RGLOVE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 14:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I corresponded with Khalid a few years ago when the invasion first started. I am a professional single mother, middle of the road type, not politically involved - but I found Khalid to be very sweet, not &quot;anti-American&quot;, etc.  Do you blame anyone at all for saying they are &quot;anti-this or that&quot; should that group be misbehaving? Khalid is NOT Anti-AMERICAN, he is very friendly and sincere. His whole family are very intelligent and loving people. Sure, they are afraid at times - not only of the American invasion, but of the Iraqi national guard. You really need to read the early blogs of Khalid and him family to &quot;get to know him&quot; before taking one comment about being &quot;Anti....&quot; to put that in the right perspective. I sort of think of Khalid as my &quot;Iraqi son&quot; because he is same age and mindset of my own son here in the USA. I always worry about him and his family, in particular. It&#039;s good to know, more personally, the people who we are &quot;protecting&quot; with our blood and money without jumping to conclusions as we too often tend to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I corresponded with Khalid a few years ago when the invasion first started. I am a professional single mother, middle of the road type, not politically involved &#8211; but I found Khalid to be very sweet, not &#8220;anti-American&#8221;, etc.  Do you blame anyone at all for saying they are &#8220;anti-this or that&#8221; should that group be misbehaving? Khalid is NOT Anti-AMERICAN, he is very friendly and sincere. His whole family are very intelligent and loving people. Sure, they are afraid at times &#8211; not only of the American invasion, but of the Iraqi national guard. You really need to read the early blogs of Khalid and him family to &#8220;get to know him&#8221; before taking one comment about being &#8220;Anti&#8230;.&#8221; to put that in the right perspective. I sort of think of Khalid as my &#8220;Iraqi son&#8221; because he is same age and mindset of my own son here in the USA. I always worry about him and his family, in particular. It&#8217;s good to know, more personally, the people who we are &#8220;protecting&#8221; with our blood and money without jumping to conclusions as we too often tend to do.</p>
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		<title>By: site admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>site admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 15:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kathy. We posted it here: http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/globalvoices/2005/08/01/iraq-i-found-myself/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kathy. We posted it here: <a href="http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/globalvoices/2005/08/01/iraq-i-found-myself/" rel="nofollow">http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/globalvoices/2005/08/01/iraq-i-found-myself/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 14:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Khalid has posted a long account of his time in jail. (July 30 is the date of the post.)
http://secretsinbaghdad.blogspot.com/2005/07/i-found-myself.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Khalid has posted a long account of his time in jail. (July 30 is the date of the post.)<br />
<a href="http://secretsinbaghdad.blogspot.com/2005/07/i-found-myself.html" rel="nofollow">http://secretsinbaghdad.blogspot.com/2005/07/i-found-myself.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Luisetta</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2005/07/15/khalid-jarar-iraqi-blogger-detained/comment-page-3/#comment-2135</link>
		<dc:creator>Luisetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2005 17:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rufus: You are right to pick up on uncertainty here. Who knows, it may turn out to be our saving grace. But l don&#039;t think it&#039;s right to equate emotional power in writing with concrete action. Especially when we ourselves can&#039;t be sure of the levels at which his irony is operating. For language to amount to incitement to violence/terror, it has to be the opposite of confusing. It has to say, with no room for doubt: &quot;go and kill all life forms who have green skin and purple spots! they deserve to die!&quot;. It can&#039;t beat about the bush (no pun intended :). I think the mukhabarat were trying to put the frighteners on someone they think is too critical, not questioning him as part of a bona fide anti-terror operation. cheers, Luisetta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rufus: You are right to pick up on uncertainty here. Who knows, it may turn out to be our saving grace. But l don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s right to equate emotional power in writing with concrete action. Especially when we ourselves can&#8217;t be sure of the levels at which his irony is operating. For language to amount to incitement to violence/terror, it has to be the opposite of confusing. It has to say, with no room for doubt: &#8220;go and kill all life forms who have green skin and purple spots! they deserve to die!&#8221;. It can&#8217;t beat about the bush (no pun intended :). I think the mukhabarat were trying to put the frighteners on someone they think is too critical, not questioning him as part of a bona fide anti-terror operation. cheers, Luisetta.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iraqi blogger Khalid Jarrar is freed</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2005/07/15/khalid-jarar-iraqi-blogger-detained/comment-page-3/#comment-2115</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iraqi blogger Khalid Jarrar is freed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2005 19:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Iraqi blogger Khalid Jarrar, whose detention by the Iraqi secret police we reported last week, has now been released according to his brother Raed and his mother Faiza. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rufus Lee King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rufus Lee King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2005 06:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lusiette:

You seem not completely sure of your charitable interpretations, just as I am not completely sure of my violence and revolution-inciting interpretations. So it woud seem we both agree to some ambiguity in how Mr. Jarrar allowed himself to being read.

But he is in a war zone. So is it illegitimate for the Iraqi national security apparatus to anticipate his words and blog to be a possibile source of recruiting more partricipants in their extremely lethal  enemy&#039;s efforts? I don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lusiette:</p>
<p>You seem not completely sure of your charitable interpretations, just as I am not completely sure of my violence and revolution-inciting interpretations. So it woud seem we both agree to some ambiguity in how Mr. Jarrar allowed himself to being read.</p>
<p>But he is in a war zone. So is it illegitimate for the Iraqi national security apparatus to anticipate his words and blog to be a possibile source of recruiting more partricipants in their extremely lethal  enemy&#8217;s efforts? I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Rufus Lee King</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2005/07/15/khalid-jarar-iraqi-blogger-detained/comment-page-3/#comment-2105</link>
		<dc:creator>Rufus Lee King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2005 05:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The irony is, given that you are SO law abiding… the irony is that you support an illegal war conducted by the US on Iraq. A war that has directly resulted in tens of thousands of Iraqis being massacred either directly by US troops, or indirectly via the tidal wave of crime and poverty unleashed by the invasion. Khalid is in the right here, not you&quot; - Bruno

Bruno:

Since the topic is Khalid&#039;s predicament, how do you interpret his written sentiments? Support for the new Iraqi regime and its security lifeline, the US, or support for the old guard and/or the insurgency?

On illegality: Self defense from impending harm is always legal. Saddam made himself to look as if he still had the WMD&#039;s he never accounted for. One was VX nerve agent that Clinton had recently proved he was preparing with Al Qaeda. VX would be a very formiddable threat to the US if Al Qaeda deployed it in its subways.

UN Resolution 1441 certainly implied a US attack when it cited all Saddam&#039;s continuing crimes and ended by threatening &quot;serious consequences&quot;. Unless you think they were talking about leagues of blue helmets showing up to disarm his huge armies and arsenals. 

But when you have a now apparently corrupt Security Council and UN hierarchy, taking bribes from Saddam, the very party they were supposed to impartially administer justice to, it takes a perverse twist of logic to call it &quot;illegal&quot; for the US to read the UN&#039;s previoulsy suggestive resolution for enforcement authority to its self defense interests, while also standing on a nation&#039;s inalienable right to defend itself, as the UN Charter allows even without a more clearly stated resolution.

No doubt, US haters (like the Left) and Saddam apologists will seize on the corrupted ambiguity of the UN statement and ignore the democracy the US has since gifted to the Iraqi people, the costly rescue from Saddam who killed over 50 times more innocent people than the US-led overthrow brought about to innocent and guilty people alike, and the stop which was put to the Al Qaeda and other terrorist-feeding WMD activities of Saddam the UN could or chose never to get a handle on.  

Whether all the missing WMD&#039;s are ever accounted for or not, it still stands that when an outlaw, as Saddam indisputedly was, escapes his captive bonds, refuses further legal authority, refuses lawful compliance with unanimous world resolutions and is believed with very good cause to be armed, and refuses to show himself to be safe, he is to be shot down, under any civilized code of law in the world. But he now resides in a comfortable prison awaiting a fair trial. Meanwhile, his victims smolder in mass graves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The irony is, given that you are SO law abiding… the irony is that you support an illegal war conducted by the US on Iraq. A war that has directly resulted in tens of thousands of Iraqis being massacred either directly by US troops, or indirectly via the tidal wave of crime and poverty unleashed by the invasion. Khalid is in the right here, not you&#8221; &#8211; Bruno</p>
<p>Bruno:</p>
<p>Since the topic is Khalid&#8217;s predicament, how do you interpret his written sentiments? Support for the new Iraqi regime and its security lifeline, the US, or support for the old guard and/or the insurgency?</p>
<p>On illegality: Self defense from impending harm is always legal. Saddam made himself to look as if he still had the WMD&#8217;s he never accounted for. One was VX nerve agent that Clinton had recently proved he was preparing with Al Qaeda. VX would be a very formiddable threat to the US if Al Qaeda deployed it in its subways.</p>
<p>UN Resolution 1441 certainly implied a US attack when it cited all Saddam&#8217;s continuing crimes and ended by threatening &#8220;serious consequences&#8221;. Unless you think they were talking about leagues of blue helmets showing up to disarm his huge armies and arsenals. </p>
<p>But when you have a now apparently corrupt Security Council and UN hierarchy, taking bribes from Saddam, the very party they were supposed to impartially administer justice to, it takes a perverse twist of logic to call it &#8220;illegal&#8221; for the US to read the UN&#8217;s previoulsy suggestive resolution for enforcement authority to its self defense interests, while also standing on a nation&#8217;s inalienable right to defend itself, as the UN Charter allows even without a more clearly stated resolution.</p>
<p>No doubt, US haters (like the Left) and Saddam apologists will seize on the corrupted ambiguity of the UN statement and ignore the democracy the US has since gifted to the Iraqi people, the costly rescue from Saddam who killed over 50 times more innocent people than the US-led overthrow brought about to innocent and guilty people alike, and the stop which was put to the Al Qaeda and other terrorist-feeding WMD activities of Saddam the UN could or chose never to get a handle on.  </p>
<p>Whether all the missing WMD&#8217;s are ever accounted for or not, it still stands that when an outlaw, as Saddam indisputedly was, escapes his captive bonds, refuses further legal authority, refuses lawful compliance with unanimous world resolutions and is believed with very good cause to be armed, and refuses to show himself to be safe, he is to be shot down, under any civilized code of law in the world. But he now resides in a comfortable prison awaiting a fair trial. Meanwhile, his victims smolder in mass graves.</p>
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		<title>By: Luisetta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luisetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Afterthought--I think it&#039;s very hard for someone who hasn&#039;t had to live in a one-party state to really resonate with the rhetoric of someone who has. There are depths of irony and disgust that some of us will never have to plumb, insha&#039;allah. Strangely, (or perhaps not so strangely) the (self-)disgust and irony seem to deepen if the person has had strong links with the regime. There are times when Bush and Blair induce responses of irony and disgust in left-leaning Westerners, but it doesn&#039;t really go deep, and corrode the soul, until you&#039;ve come up against the coercive power of military force or state-sponsored violence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Afterthought&#8211;I think it&#8217;s very hard for someone who hasn&#8217;t had to live in a one-party state to really resonate with the rhetoric of someone who has. There are depths of irony and disgust that some of us will never have to plumb, insha&#8217;allah. Strangely, (or perhaps not so strangely) the (self-)disgust and irony seem to deepen if the person has had strong links with the regime. There are times when Bush and Blair induce responses of irony and disgust in left-leaning Westerners, but it doesn&#8217;t really go deep, and corrode the soul, until you&#8217;ve come up against the coercive power of military force or state-sponsored violence.</p>
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		<title>By: Luisetta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luisetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the extracts you highlighted, Rufus, and believe that you may well have completely misunderstood them. They seemed written in a highly ironic vein to me, aimed against the sort of lame and crude propaganda tactics used by the Iraqi government. The &quot;honorable&quot; mujahideen were ironically (and rhetorically) constructed out of the propaganda films&#039; &quot;dishonorable&quot; Syrian-backed rapist caricatures. Possibly because the tone of the films was very Ba&#039;athist (I&#039;m speculating here) and left Mr Jarrar with a sickening sense of deja vu. He seems to me to be a person very sensitive to language and nuance, and highly unlikely to concretise his thoughts, or to suggest that others do the same, however explosive his invective may be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the extracts you highlighted, Rufus, and believe that you may well have completely misunderstood them. They seemed written in a highly ironic vein to me, aimed against the sort of lame and crude propaganda tactics used by the Iraqi government. The &#8220;honorable&#8221; mujahideen were ironically (and rhetorically) constructed out of the propaganda films&#8217; &#8220;dishonorable&#8221; Syrian-backed rapist caricatures. Possibly because the tone of the films was very Ba&#8217;athist (I&#8217;m speculating here) and left Mr Jarrar with a sickening sense of deja vu. He seems to me to be a person very sensitive to language and nuance, and highly unlikely to concretise his thoughts, or to suggest that others do the same, however explosive his invective may be.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rufus --  The irony is, given that you are SO law abiding... the irony is that you support an illegal war conducted by the US on Iraq. A war that has directly resulted in tens of thousands of Iraqis being massacred either directly by US troops, or indirectly via the tidal wave of crime and poverty unleashed by the invasion. Khalid is in the right here, not you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rufus &#8212;  The irony is, given that you are SO law abiding&#8230; the irony is that you support an illegal war conducted by the US on Iraq. A war that has directly resulted in tens of thousands of Iraqis being massacred either directly by US troops, or indirectly via the tidal wave of crime and poverty unleashed by the invasion. Khalid is in the right here, not you.</p>
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		<title>By: Pohdiskeleva Liftari &#187; Irakilainen bloggaaja vangittu</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2005/07/15/khalid-jarar-iraqi-blogger-detained/comment-page-2/#comment-2030</link>
		<dc:creator>Pohdiskeleva Liftari &#187; Irakilainen bloggaaja vangittu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Irakin salainen poliisi on ottanut talteen tunnetun blogistin Khalid Jarrarin, kertoo Global Voices. Secrets of Baghdad -blogia pitävä Jarrar oli aiemmin raportoinut, että hänen kotiinsa oli murtauduttu ja tietokoneen kovalevy kadonnut. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pohdiskeleva Liftari &#187; Irakilainen bloggaaja vangittu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pohdiskeleva Liftari &#187; Irakilainen bloggaaja vangittu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Irakin salainen poliisi on ottanut talteen tunnetun blogistin Khalid Jarrarin, kertoo Global Voices. Secrets of Baghdad -blogia pitävä Jarrar oli aiemmin raportoinut, että hänen kotiinsa oli murtauduttu ja tietokoneen kovalevy kadonnut.    &#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Irakin salainen poliisi on ottanut talteen tunnetun blogistin Khalid Jarrarin, kertoo Global Voices. Secrets of Baghdad -blogia pitävä Jarrar oli aiemmin raportoinut, että hänen kotiinsa oli murtauduttu ja tietokoneen kovalevy kadonnut.    &nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rufus Lee King</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2005/07/15/khalid-jarar-iraqi-blogger-detained/comment-page-2/#comment-2023</link>
		<dc:creator>Rufus Lee King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2005 00:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebecca

I agree with everything you said. I do feel that there is alot of free speech territory a person can take on far short of criminal complicity for crime or terror, which nonetheless, might also support some ideas appealing to terrorists and criminals.

Unfortunately, in a place and time where lives are being lost at horrific rates and the state hangs in the balance, anyone who goes out on a limb with their statements and is subject to be read as an enemy collaborator is going to have to accept the risk that goes with that perception of being dangerous to those powers bound to treat danger very aggressively.

The safe road, albeit one sometimes compromising to the ultimate in expressive license, would be, when in a war or high threat zone, to take great pains to articulate the differences between a stand one takes and the actions of crime or terror. I don&#039;t know that Mr. Jarrar did that very effectively, though I admit his statements are ambiguous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca</p>
<p>I agree with everything you said. I do feel that there is alot of free speech territory a person can take on far short of criminal complicity for crime or terror, which nonetheless, might also support some ideas appealing to terrorists and criminals.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, in a place and time where lives are being lost at horrific rates and the state hangs in the balance, anyone who goes out on a limb with their statements and is subject to be read as an enemy collaborator is going to have to accept the risk that goes with that perception of being dangerous to those powers bound to treat danger very aggressively.</p>
<p>The safe road, albeit one sometimes compromising to the ultimate in expressive license, would be, when in a war or high threat zone, to take great pains to articulate the differences between a stand one takes and the actions of crime or terror. I don&#8217;t know that Mr. Jarrar did that very effectively, though I admit his statements are ambiguous.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca MacKinnon</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2005/07/15/khalid-jarar-iraqi-blogger-detained/comment-page-2/#comment-2019</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca MacKinnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rufus,
The situation in Iraq is obviously very murky and complicated.  If Khalid is charged and tried for terrorist activities then that&#039;s one thing. If he actively works to support certain terrorist activities, or is affiliated with a terrorist group, that is not something we should support. But if blogging alone is enough to make a person disappear into detention as an &quot;enemy collaborator,&quot; that&#039;s pretty scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rufus,<br />
The situation in Iraq is obviously very murky and complicated.  If Khalid is charged and tried for terrorist activities then that&#8217;s one thing. If he actively works to support certain terrorist activities, or is affiliated with a terrorist group, that is not something we should support. But if blogging alone is enough to make a person disappear into detention as an &#8220;enemy collaborator,&#8221; that&#8217;s pretty scary.</p>
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		<title>By: Roey Rosenblith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roey Rosenblith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something that no one is mentioning is the fact that Khalid has not been given the rights of an attorney. 

From his Brother&#039;s Blog http://raedinthemiddle.blogspot.com/
Raed Jarrar writes:
&quot;On another note, it seems that the new Iraqi courts don&#039;t guarantee the right to lawyers: prisoners are neither offered the help of a public defender nor can they bring their own lawyers.&quot;

This seems to contradict the transitional adminstrative law set up by Paul Bremer which can be read here:
http://www.cpa-iraq.org/democracy/PSAs/Rule_Law.html


• Accusation is not guilt. Every person is innocent until proven guilty through due process of law.
• Torture and cruel punishments are absolutely forbidden.
• Every person accused of a crime has the right to remain silent.
• Anyone accused of a crime has the right to an attorney and to a speedy and public trial.
• No one can be arrested or tried for his political or religious beliefs.
• And, civilians may not be tried before military tribunals.

According to Article 15 of  Coalition Provisional Authority 
LAW OF ADMINISTRATION FOR THE STATE OF IRAQ
FOR THE TRANSITIONAL PERIOD http://www.cdi.org/news/law/Iraq-Constitution.htm  , which as I understand it is the law until such a time as the Constitution is written states: 

&quot;(E)       The accused is innocent until proven guilty pursuant to law, and he likewise has the right to engage independent and competent counsel, to remain silent in response to questions addressed to him with no compulsion to testify for any reason, to participate in preparing his defense, and to summon and examine witnesses or to ask the judge to do so.  At the time a person is arrested, he must be notified of these rights.&quot; 

The fact that, according to his brother, Khalid Jarrar has not been given access to an attorney should be an issue of primary concern irregardless of all other factors. 

So as a concerned citizen I would encourage you to sign this petition:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/820522461?ltl=1121603411

 which I will personally deliver to the Iraqi Embassy in D.C.  when it hits 1,000 signatures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something that no one is mentioning is the fact that Khalid has not been given the rights of an attorney. </p>
<p>From his Brother&#8217;s Blog <a href="http://raedinthemiddle.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://raedinthemiddle.blogspot.com/</a><br />
Raed Jarrar writes:<br />
&#8220;On another note, it seems that the new Iraqi courts don&#8217;t guarantee the right to lawyers: prisoners are neither offered the help of a public defender nor can they bring their own lawyers.&#8221;</p>
<p>This seems to contradict the transitional adminstrative law set up by Paul Bremer which can be read here:<br />
<a href="http://www.cpa-iraq.org/democracy/PSAs/Rule_Law.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cpa-iraq.org/democracy/PSAs/Rule_Law.html</a></p>
<p>• Accusation is not guilt. Every person is innocent until proven guilty through due process of law.<br />
• Torture and cruel punishments are absolutely forbidden.<br />
• Every person accused of a crime has the right to remain silent.<br />
• Anyone accused of a crime has the right to an attorney and to a speedy and public trial.<br />
• No one can be arrested or tried for his political or religious beliefs.<br />
• And, civilians may not be tried before military tribunals.</p>
<p>According to Article 15 of  Coalition Provisional Authority<br />
LAW OF ADMINISTRATION FOR THE STATE OF IRAQ<br />
FOR THE TRANSITIONAL PERIOD <a href="http://www.cdi.org/news/law/Iraq-Constitution.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.cdi.org/news/law/Iraq-Constitution.htm</a>  , which as I understand it is the law until such a time as the Constitution is written states: </p>
<p>&#8220;(E)       The accused is innocent until proven guilty pursuant to law, and he likewise has the right to engage independent and competent counsel, to remain silent in response to questions addressed to him with no compulsion to testify for any reason, to participate in preparing his defense, and to summon and examine witnesses or to ask the judge to do so.  At the time a person is arrested, he must be notified of these rights.&#8221; </p>
<p>The fact that, according to his brother, Khalid Jarrar has not been given access to an attorney should be an issue of primary concern irregardless of all other factors. </p>
<p>So as a concerned citizen I would encourage you to sign this petition:<br />
<a href="http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/820522461?ltl=1121603411" rel="nofollow">http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/820522461?ltl=1121603411</a></p>
<p> which I will personally deliver to the Iraqi Embassy in D.C.  when it hits 1,000 signatures.</p>
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