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		<title>Mongolia: &#8220;Khoomii doesn&#039;t belong to China&#8221;</title>
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		<title>China: Let Feng Zhenghu come home, to jail time</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[After 92 days in Narita Airport, activist Feng Zhenghu has returned to Japan and is preparing for his ninth attempt to return home to China. Should he go? Illiberal members of Anti-CNN.com think jail time for leaders in China's exiled democracy movement could give it a fresh start.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feng_Zhenghu">Feng Zhenghu</a>&#39;s 92-day <a href="http://globalvoicesonline.org/2009/11/22/china-and-japan-feng-zhenghu-at-narita-airport/">protest in Narita airport</a> has ended and he now has a flight back to Shanghai booked for this Friday, just in time for Chinese New Year, but <a href="http://twitter.com/fzhenghu/status/8721005027">updates</a> [zh] to his Twitter account over the past weekend suggest that Feng remains unsure over whether he&#39;ll be let back into China. This Friday at noon will be his ninth consecutive attempt to return home.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/fzhenghu/4330123210/"><img src="http://globalvoicesonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/fzhu92-300x225.jpg" alt="fzhu92" title="fzhu92" width="300" height="225" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-122045" /></a></p>
<p>Why hasn&#39;t Feng, with his valid passport, been allowed to return to China, a right supposedly <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights#Human_rights_set_out_in_the_Declaration">afforded</a> to all Chinese citizens? In the absence of an explanation from Beijing, many have looked to Shanghai and see Feng&#39;s story as part of a larger trend of local authorities&#39; growing willingness to violate rule of law with disregard to response from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhongnanhai">the Central government</a>.</p>
<p>Mainland Chinese media aren&#39;t reporting on Feng&#39;s current forced exile, and many blog posts and BBS threads on the topic have been <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonize">harmonized</a>; sentiment within China&#39;s virtual (self-imposed) exile community on Twitter stands <a href="https://twitter.com/fzhenghu/followers">quite strongly</a> in Feng&#39;s favor, but in a case this like what more is there really to say?</p>
<p>A lot it turns out, judging from <a href="http://bbs.anti-cnn.com/archiver/tid-209777.html">this archived Anti-CNN thread</a> which dates back to December and runs on for five pages; comments from the first page illustrate a seldom-heard perspective on the larger story behind Feng&#39;s situation, that of the plight of figures in China&#39;s <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_democracy_movement">exiled democracy movement</a>, several of whom have recently begun using sites like Facebook and Twitter to connect with a growing number of mainland netizens:</p>
<blockquote><p>为你而注册:<br />
冯正虎的事情，我好像叛变了<br />
他还是有点钱的，要说他是美分党很难让人相信。<br />
他没有任何组织，说他是民运，也没人相信。<br />
５５５回不了国。连一个理由都没有。<br />
上海怎么了？</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">I Signed up 4u:<br />
<br />
WRT Feng Zhenghu&#39;s case, I think I&#39;ve switched sides<br />
You know he does have a fair amount of his own money, nobody&#39;s really going to believe that he&#39;s bankrolled by the US gov.<br />
<br />
He&#39;s not affiliated with any groups, so it&#39;s hard to paint him as part of the democracy movement.<br />
They won&#39;t let him come home, and he hasn&#39;t even been given a reason.<br />
<br />
Just what is going on there in Shanghai?</div>
<blockquote><p>liuyw2009:<br />
你凭什么认为自己了解他？你认识他？</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">liuyw2009:<br />
<br />
Who are you to speak up for him? Do you know him?</div>
<blockquote><p>为你而注册:<br />
我不了解他。<br />
就是因为不了解才好奇。究竟什么原因？<br />
难道不需要任何理由，就可以采取这种方式？<br />
这才是让人恐惧的地方。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">I Signed up 4u:<br />
<br />
No, I don&#39;t.<br />
<br />
But it&#39;s because I don&#39;t know him that I&#39;m curious. I want to know what this is all about.<br />
I mean they have to have some sort of reason to take steps like this, no?<br />
<br />
That&#39;s the scary part.</div>
<blockquote><p>shangqunsheng:<br />
据了解，冯正虎拥有日本居留签证，日本入国管理局多次劝他入境。（摘自南海网）<br />
日本人吗？仍是中国籍吗？如不是中国人当然可以拒绝入境。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">shangqunsheng:<br />
<br />
From what I know, Feng Zhenghu has a Japanese residency visa, the Immigration Bureau of Japan has let him enter the country numberous times. (according to HainanNet)</div>
<blockquote><p>wilkins:<br />
据称，他是三股势力的其中之一。<br />
众人恍然大悟，明白了。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">wilkins:<br />
<br />
They say he&#39;s mixed in with one of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Evils">the Three Evils</a>.<br />
The people&#39;s eyes have been opened, they understand now.</div>
<blockquote><p>shangqunsheng:<br />
问：因为被中国相关部门拒绝入境，中国公民冯正虎至今仍在日本机场滞留。为什么他作为中国公民却不被允许入境？如果他被允许回到中国，中方将如何处置他？<br />
答：中国有关部门根据相关法律，如《中华人民共和国公民出境入境管理法》来处理。具体情况请你向有关部门去了解。（中国外交部答记者问）<br />
以往是中国人，目前可能不是中国人。只是华裔而已。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">shangqunsheng:<br />
<br />
<em>Q: Chinese citizen Feng Zhenghu, having been refused entry to China by the relevant authorities, to his day has been taking abode in Japan&#39;s Narita Airport. As a Chinese citizen, why is he not being allowed to enter China? Also, if he is allowed to return to China, how will he be treated?<br />
<br />
A: The relevant Chinese authorities will deal with this according to the relevant Chinese laws, such as <law of the People's Republic of China on the Control of the Exit and Entry of Citizens>. For the exact details you can contact the relevant departments. (response to a journalist&#39;s question at a Ministry of Foreign Affairs press conference)</law></em><br />
<br />
He used to be a Chinese citizen, now all he might be is just an ethnic Chinese.</div>
<blockquote><p>woshizx:<br />
[b]中华人民共和国公民出境入境管理法实施细则[/b]<br />
http://www.gov.cn/banshi/2005-08/31/content_27719.htm<br />
第十五条　有下列情形之一的，边防检查站有权阻止出境、入境：<br />
[&#8230;]<br />
（二）持用无效护照或者其他无效出境入境证件的；<br />
[&#8230;]<br />
第二十二条　中华人民共和国护照和其他出境入境证件的持有人有下列情形之一的，其护照、出境入境证件应予以吊销或者宣布作废：<br />
[&#8230;]<br />
（三）从事危害国家安全、荣誉和利益的活动的。<br />
[&#8230;]</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">I am ZX:<br />
<br />
<em><strong>Details on implementation of the Law of the PRC on the Control of the Exit and Entry of Citizens</strong><br />
<br />
Article 15    Under any of the following circumstances, border inspection points have the authority to refuse entry or exit:<br />
[&#8230;]<br />
2. Possession of an invalid passport or other invalid entry/exit document;<br />
[&#8230;]<br />
Article 22    PRC passports and other entry/exit documents will under any of the following circumstances be revoked or declared invalid:<br />
[&#8230;]<br />
3. A Chinese citizens commits an act harmful to the security, honor or interests of the country.<br />
[&#8230;]</em></div>
<blockquote><p>为你而注册:<br />
（三）从事危害国家安全、荣誉和利益的活动的。<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
依据这条？<br />
那就宣布护照吊销就完了。搞得满城风雨。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">I Signed up 4u:<br />
<br />
<em>3. A Chinese citizens commits an act harmful to the security, honor or interests of the country.</em><br />
<br />
So it was based on this?<br />
So then declare his passport invalid and be done with it, no need for all this fuss.</div>
<blockquote><p>kachemi:<br />
喜欢美国去美国啊 不要回来装民主的精蝇</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">kachemi:<br />
<br />
If he likes America so much he should just go there, don&#39;t coming back pretending to be a democracy leader or whatever</div>
<blockquote><p>woshizx:<br />
依据这条？<br />
那就宣布护照吊销就完了。搞得满城风雨。<br />
&#8230;<br />
冯的护照早就过期了，他自己说过中国驻日本大使馆不给他续签。<br />
政府基本上一句话不说应该是想冷处理这种事，这种的事情你一旦回应就被黏上了，到时候什么西媒、什么NGO、什么“不同政见者”甚至这个那个国家的外交部、议会都会卷进来，所以干脆不回应。<br />
他有本事就连续几年在东京成田机场耗着，到时候看到底是中国政府着急还是日本政府着急。<br />
这个人早年反对1989年那起风波里政府的决策，这次美国总统来访又公开呼吁奥巴马在人权问题上要向中国施压。<br />
还有其他，不一而足。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">I am ZX:<br />
<br />
<em>So it was based on this?<br />
So then declare his passport invalid and be done with it, no need for all this fuss.</em><br />
<br />
Feng&#39;s passport expired a long time ago, he said himself that the Chinese embassy in Japan wouldn&#39;t renew his visa.<br />
By staying silent, the Chinese government probably just wants this to blow over; the minute you start responding to things like this, then you&#39;re in it, and Western media, NGOs, &#8216;dissidents&#39; or whatever, even foreign ministries from this or that country, they all get involved. Which is why no response whatsoever should be given.<br />
<br />
If he&#39;s so smart, let him spend a few more years in Narita Airport, then we&#39;ll see who&#39;s really worked up over this, the Chinese government, or Japan&#39;s.<br />
<br />
First he opposed the government&#39;s policies during that storm in 1989, now when the American President came to visit he openly called on Obama to put pressure on China for its human rights issues.<br />
<br />
There&#39;s more, that&#39;s not all he&#39;s done.</div>
<blockquote><p>为你而注册:<br />
这件事情我感觉不好处理。这个人和海外民运还是有本质区别，他的所谓反对政府的事情更多的是观点而不是行动。<br />
感觉上海方面把对付海外民运那套滥用了。网络舆情不利于政府的。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">I Signed up 4u:<br />
<br />
I just feel like there&#39;s no simple way to handle this. He&#39;s obviously different from those in the overseas democracy movement, even his so-called opposition to the government at most is just a point of view and not yet an action.<br />
<br />
It feels like Shanghai is just bringing the overseas democracy movement into this as an excuse to deal with him. Online opinion on this is not in the government&#39;s favor.</div>
<blockquote><p>木兰歌:<br />
又一标准的送礼出境。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">Song of Mulan:<br />
<br />
Another classic example of sending gifts to other countries.</div>
<blockquote><p>相逢于海上:<br />
即使是民运、轮轮<br />
也应该让他回国，他要回来坐牢，你凭什么不让他坐牢。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">Met on the Sea:<br />
<br />
Even if he is part of the democracy movement or an FLGer<br />
They should still let him come back. If he wants to come back and go to prison, who are you to stop him?</div>
<blockquote><p>为你而注册:<br />
[quote]即使是民运、轮轮<br />
也应该让他回国，他要回来坐牢，你凭什么不让他坐牢。[/quote]<br />
还是有区别的，民运、轮轮这些说实话是真的对中国没有一点积极意义。<br />
这个冯的事情，他是明显的思想上是比较偏右的，但是行动上是比较温和的。也就是说说，然后帮别人维权提供法律帮组。<br />
其实像冯这样的很多。<br />
把他等同于海外民运、轮轮处理。<br />
会导致人人自危。<br />
温和右派有多少人？<br />
算１％吧，也是上千万。<br />
人人自危的结果。不妙！<br />
这件事情的处理感觉很不妥当。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">I Signed up 4u:<br />
<br />
<em>Even if he is a democracy activist or FLGer<br />
They should still let him come back. If he wants to come back and go to prison, who are you to stop him?</em><br />
There&#39;s a difference. Those in the democracy movement, FLGers, to be honest they don&#39;t do China an inch of good.<br />
But with Feng, while his views are obviously pretty right wing, his actions are moderate enough. He&#39;ll talk a lot, but then he goes and helps people uphold their rights or provides legal support.<br />
<br />
Actually there&#39;s a lot of people like Feng.<br />
<br />
If we treated them all like democracy activists or FLGers, a lot of people would feel threatened.<br />
How many people would you say belong to the moderate right?<br />
Let&#39;s say about 1%, that&#39;s still in the tens of millions.<br />
Putting the fear into that many people? Bad idea!<br />
The way this is being handled just doesn&#39;t feel right.</div>
<blockquote><p>woshizx:<br />
[quote]即使是民运、轮轮<br />
也应该让他回国，他要回来坐牢，你凭什么不让他坐牢。[/quote]<br />
那不正好成就一帮所谓“义士”？<br />
撑死了最多关几年然后放出来，不正好给他们活动资本吗？然后造就一群达赖喇嘛第二？</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">I am ZX:<br />
<br />
<em>Even if he is part of the democracy movement or an FLGer<br />
They should still let him come back. If he wants to come back and go to prison, who are you to stop him?</em><br />
Wouldn&#39;t that then make them all a bunch of so-called &#8216;righteous knights&#39;?<br />
<br />
If at most all you do is lock them up for a few years then let them out, isn&#39;t that just giving them political capital? Then wouldn&#39;t you just be making a bunch more Dalai Lama types?</div>
<blockquote><p>woshizx:<br />
[quote]还是有区别的，民运、轮轮这些说实话是真的对中国没有一点积极意义。<br />
这个冯的事情，他是明显的思想上是比较偏右的，但是行动上是比较温和的。也就是说说，然后帮别人维权提供法律帮组。<br />
其实像冯这样的很多。[/quote]<br />
也许，这个人做的事情不仅仅是现在媒体上公开的那些那么简单？<br />
类似的例子不是没有，比如沃维汉事件。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">I am ZX:<br />
<br />
<em>There&#39;s a difference. Those in the democracy movement, FLGers, to be honest they don&#39;t do China an inch of good.<br />
<br />
But with Feng, while his views are obviously pretty right wing, his actions are moderate enough. He&#39;ll talk a lot, but then he goes and helps people uphold their rights or provides legal support.<br />
Actually there&#39;s a lot of people like Feng.</em><br />
<br />
Have you considered that maybe the things this guy has done aren&#39;t as simple as what&#39;s been openly put in media?<br />
It&#39;s not like there aren&#39;t any similar cases, like the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wo_Weihan">Wo Weihan</a> incident.</div>
<blockquote><p>wilkins:<br />
社会的改变，哪次不需要血来改变。<br />
就那么轻轻松松想翻了案，哪有那么容易</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">wilkins:<br />
<br />
Since when has there been social change that hasn&#39;t had a cost in blood?<br />
You want his case to just be overturned like that? It&#39;s not that easy.</div>
<blockquote><p>相逢于海上:<br />
法律本来就是针对行为而不是针对某个主体的<br />
不管你是谁，犯了这个事情，就让你接受法律的处罚，你接受完处罚了，你就是正常的人了，该干嘛干嘛去。<br />
如果没犯这个事，不管你是什么身份，都不得处罚。<br />
坐牢的过程就是把你对社会做的恶都抵消了，抵消完了，就两不亏欠了，坐完牢，又是一条好汉。<br />
就像台湾的施明德，第一次犯事被关了12年，一出来马上又犯事，又关12年<br />
人家有种，愿意坐牢，你总不能为了防止他犯事，在坐完牢，和社会两不亏欠的情况下，把他关起来或者把他移送出境吧。人家和社会两不亏欠，是个正常人，你凭什么这么对待人家？<br />
凡是不以行为定罪，而以主体定罪的，皆是恶法，不值得遵守。<br />
所以，如果中国真的讲法治的话，应该是千方百计让所有的轮轮、民运引渡回国让他们接受法律的审判，审判完了，他们坐完牢了，又可以在中国自由活动了，如果再犯事再抓。顶多是第二次抓按照累犯从重处罚。<br />
如果中国政府不让他们回国，只能说明中国不是法治，而是人治。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">Met on the Sea:<br />
<br />
Law to begin with is used again specific actions, and not certain groups of people.<br />
<br />
It doesn&#39;t matter who you are, if you break the law, then you have to accept the legal punishment, and once you&#39;ve done so, then you get to be a civilian again, that&#39;s how it goes.<br />
<br />
If you haven&#39;t broken the law, then regardless who you are, you shouldn&#39;t be punished.<br />
The process of sending people to prison is to cancel out the evil they&#39;ve done to society. Once that&#39;s done, then nobody&#39;s owed anything. Once you&#39;ve done your time, you get to be a man again.<br />
<br />
Just like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shih_Ming-teh">Shih Ming-teh</a> in Taiwan, he did 12 years for his first offense, then as soon as he got out, 12 more years for another.<br />
<br />
If people have the guts, and are willing to—and do—serve time, once they&#39;ve repaid their debt to society, you can&#39;t just lock them up again or kick them out of the country just to stop them from doing the same thing again. When people have repaid their debt to society, they&#39;re free. Just where do you get off wanting to treat people like that?<br />
Any law which criminalizes people for things other than their actions, and seeks to criminalize entire communities, is inevitably a bad law, and one that doesn&#39;t deserve to be respected.<br />
<br />
Thus, if China is truly serious about implementing rule of law, it should do everything it can to extradite all FLGers and pro-democracy activists, give them all trials; when those are over, let them carry out their sentences, and be free to move around inside China again. If they continue to break the law, they&#39;ll be arrested again. If they get arrested a second time, at most they&#39;ll be sentenced as any repeat offenders would.<br />
<br />
If the Chinese government doesn&#39;t let them return, then all I can say is that China is not ruled by law, but by man.</div>
<blockquote><p>再大的罪恶也没有前线军官投敌叛变的罪恶大了，就是说林毅夫。<br />
可是台湾的“国防部”有说不许林毅夫回台湾吗？他们只是说林毅夫如果回台湾，就得接受法律的处罚，并不是一概拒绝他回台湾。<br />
林毅夫如果愿意坐牢，当然可以回去，坐完牢，他又可以在台湾自由活动了。<br />
可是我们呢？民运、轮轮，犯的事比的上林毅夫么？居然说一概不允许回来，人家愿意回来坐牢都不行，这是什么法治？分明是人治。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">In any case, there isn&#39;t any crime worse than high-ranking military officials turning traitor and going over to the other side, by which I&#39;m referring to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Yifu_Lin">Justin Lin</a>.<br />
<br />
But then hasn&#39;t Taiwan&#39;s &#8220;Ministry of Defense&#8221; said it won&#39;t let him return to Taiwan? By that they mean, if Justin Lin does return to Taiwan, he&#39;ll be subject to legal punishment, and not that they refuse to allow him to return.<br />
<br />
If Lin is willing to serve time, of course he can go back, go to prison, and then he&#39;ll be free to live in Taiwan again.<br />
<br />
But us? Do the crimes of the democracy movement or FLG compare to Justin Lin&#39;s? To go so far as to unconditionally not allow them to return, even if they&#39;re willing to go to prison for it, what kind of rule of law is that? Clearly, it&#39;s just rule of man.</div>
<blockquote><p>net2003:<br />
美国可以有叛国罪，为何中国不可有。<br />
为何中国的叛国者，总是可以厚着脸和中国谈人权讲法律，还那么的理直气壮。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">net2003:<br />
<br />
Treason is a crime in America, why can&#39;t it be in China?<br />
<br />
Why are China&#39;s traitors also so brazen about talking to China about human rights, about law, as if they&#39;re so convinced that they&#39;re in the right?</div>
<blockquote><p>woshizx:<br />
[quote]法律本来就是针对行为而不是针对某个主体的<br />
不管你是谁，犯了这个事情，就让你接受法律的处罚，你接受完处罚了，你就是正常的人了，该干嘛干嘛去。<br />
如果没犯这个事，不管你是什么身份，都不得处罚。<br />
坐牢的过程就是 &#8230;[/quote]<br />
不准回国也是有法律依据可循的。<br />
想回国？可以，登报声明反省，并且以实际行动证明不再从事危害国家安全活动。<br />
对违法行为的惩治手段并不是只有判刑一种，不准回国也是一种惩治措施。这种措施对于维护法律实施具有更好的效果，那就完全可以采用。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">I am ZX:<br />
<br />
<em>Law to begin with is used again specific actions, and not certain groups of people.<br />
<br />
It doesn&#39;t matter who you are, if you break the law, then you have to accept the legal punishment, and once you&#39;ve done so, then you get to be a civilian again, that&#39;s how it goes.<br />
<br />
If you haven&#39;t broken the law, then regardless who you are, you shouldn&#39;t be punished.<br />
<br />
The process of sending people to prison is to cancel out the evil they&#39;ve done to society. Once that&#39;s done, then nobody&#39;s owed anything. Once you&#39;ve done your time, you get to be a man again.</em><br />
<br />
Actually there is legal basis in not letting them return to China.<br />
<br />
You want to come back? Fine, declare it in the newspaper that you&#39;ve changed your ways, and put action to your words to prove that you won&#39;t commit any more acts harmful to the security of the country.<br />
<br />
Jail time isn&#39;t the only means by which to punish illegal behavior, not letting them return to China is one too. If there are other methods which will have a better effect in upholding the law, then there&#39;s no reason why they can&#39;t be used.</div>
<blockquote><p>相逢于海上:<br />
[quote]美国可以有叛国罪，为何中国不可有。<br />
为何中国的叛国者，总是可以厚着脸和中国谈人权讲法律，还那么的理直气壮。[/quote]<br />
一个美国人犯了叛国罪逃亡在外<br />
美国政府一定是千方百计把他引渡回来，判处刑罚<br />
假如判处的有期徒刑不是太长，这个人坐完牢了还没死，一定是又放出来，成为一个正常的美国公民。<br />
绝对不是说，犯了事，拒绝你回国，也不给你判刑。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">Met on the Sea:<br />
<br />
<em>Treason is a crime in America, why can&#39;t it be in China?<br />
<br />
Why are China&#39;s traitors also so brazen about talking to China about human rights, about law, as if they&#39;re so convinced that they&#39;re in the right?</em><br />
<br />
If an American commits treason and then flees the country<br />
<br />
The American government would certainly do everything in its power to extradite and them convict him.<br />
<br />
Say though that the sentence wasn&#39;t that long, that this person finishes his sentence and is still alive. He&#39;d certainly be let out, and then revert to being a normal American citizen.<br />
<br />
They would never say, we&#39;ll you&#39;ve committed a crime so we won&#39;t let you come back, and we won&#39;t sentence you either.</div>
<blockquote><p>woshizx:<br />
他们和中国谈人权讲法律，就真的是人权卫士护法先锋了？<br />
哪个家伙跟自己的国家为敌的时候，不是搞一堆冠冕堂皇的理由作为挡箭牌的？</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">I am ZX:<br />
<br />
These people talking to the Chinese government about human rights and rule of law, are they really human rights defenders or the avant-garde in defending Falun Gong?<br />
<br />
Who hasn&#39;t, when going against his own country, come up with a hundred fancy reasons to serve as a pretext?</div>
<blockquote><p>net2003:<br />
美国的叛国罪应该是他们最严重的罪了。是可以定死刑的。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">net2003:<br />
<br />
I think treason is the most serious crime there is in America, punishable by death.</div>
<blockquote><p>相逢于海上:<br />
[quote]不准回国也是有法律依据可循的。<br />
想回国？可以，登报声明反省，并且以实际行动证明不再从事危害国家安全活动。<br />
对违法行为的惩治手段并不是只有判刑一种，不准回国也是一种惩治措施。这种措施对于维护法律实施具 &#8230;[/quote]<br />
我暂时无法知道是否有这样的处罚措施<br />
但是假如真的有的话，这样也是十分不人道的<br />
这样会导致他一辈子无法跟家人团聚<br />
除非他家人有本事全都移民出国</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">Met on the Sea:<br />
<br />
<em>Actually there is legal basis in not letting them return to China.<br />
<br />
You want to come back? Fine, declare it in the newspaper that you&#39;ve changed your ways, and put action to your words to prove that you won&#39;t commit any more acts harmful to the security of the country.</em><br />
<br />
I can&#39;t say that I&#39;ve ever heard of any steps like this ever having been taken.<br />
<br />
But to allow for a moment that they could, to do so would be completely inhumane.<br />
<br />
He&#39;d be kept apart from his family for the rest of his life<br />
<br />
Unless his family has the wherewithal too immigrate elsewhere</div>
<blockquote><p>woshizx:<br />
[quote]一个美国人犯了叛国罪逃亡在外<br />
美国政府一定是千方百计把他引渡回来，判处刑罚<br />
假如判处的有期徒刑不是太长，这个人坐完牢了还没死，一定是又放出来，成为一个正常的美国公民。<br />
绝对不是说，犯了事，拒绝你回国，也 &#8230;[/quote]<br />
美国有美国的现实，中国有中国的国情。<br />
社会基础不一样，当然有不同的政策，包括法律适用的政策。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">I am ZX:<br />
<br />
<em>If an American commits treason and then flees the country<br />
<br />
The American government would certainly do everything in its power to extradite and them convict him.<br />
Say though that the sentence wasn&#39;t that long, that this person finishes his sentence and is still alive. He&#39;d certainly be let out, and then revert to being a normal American citizen&#8230;</em><br />
<br />
American has America&#39;s reality, China has China&#39;s national condition.<br />
<br />
The social foundations are different, of course they have different policies, including policies for application of the law.</div>
<blockquote><p>相逢于海上:<br />
[quote]美国的叛国罪应该是他们最严重的罪了。是可以定死刑的。[/quote]<br />
总之，一定是千方百计把犯了叛国罪的人引渡回来判处刑罚<br />
我们一样可以把冯正虎搞回来判刑<br />
他自己愿意回来坐牢<br />
我们的政府为何要让他逍遥法外，我怀疑政府包庇他，或者政府心虚</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">Met on the Sea:<br />
<br />
<em>I think treason is the most serious crime there is in America, punishable by death.</em><br />
<br />
Anyway, they&#39;d still do everything they could to extradite a person who commits treason back for sentencing.<br />
We should bring Feng Zhenghu back for punishment the same way.<br />
<br />
He said he&#39;s willing to do jail time.<br />
<br />
So why does our government let him stay at large? I suspect the government&#39;s protecting him from something, either that or it itself is guilty.</div>
<blockquote><p>woshizx:<br />
[quote]我暂时无法知道是否有这样的处罚措施<br />
但是假如真的有的话，这样也是十分不人道的<br />
这样会导致他一辈子无法跟家人团聚<br />
除非他家人有本事全都移民出国 &#8230;[/quote]<br />
最有名的有家不能回的中国人，估计就是达赖喇嘛了。<br />
这个人当年从中印边境出逃的时候，我空军完全有实力把他炸死，实际上当时空军的飞机已经发现他了——但结果是毛泽东亲自决策把他放出去了。<br />
历史证明当时把达赖放出去是完全正确的。 </p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">I am ZX:<br />
<br />
<em>I can&#39;t say that I&#39;ve ever heard of any steps like this ever having been taken.<br />
But to allow for a moment that they could, to do so would be completely inhumane.<br />
<br />
He&#39;d be kept apart from his family for the rest of his life<br />
<br />
Unless his family has the wherewithal too immigrate elsewhere</em><br />
<br />
The most well-known Chinese person who can&#39;t go back to his own home, has probably got to be the Dalai Lama.<br />
At the time when he fled across the border into India, it was completely within the power of our air force to blow him up, in fact our air force planes at the time even saw him, only Mao Zedong himself decided to let him let him go.<br />
<br />
History has proven that letting him go at the time was completely the right decision.</div>
<blockquote><p>net2003:<br />
既然冯先生选择了那条路，一定是经过深思熟虑的。<br />
至于家庭什么的其它问题，一定是经过考虑了的。用不着我们操心。<br />
我精神上支持他，要鼓起勇气继续走下去。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">net2003:<br />
<br />
Seeing as how Mr. Feng has chosen the path he has taken, that can only have been after serious contemplation.<br />
<br />
As for his family and other such problems, he must have taken those into consideration as well, so it&#39;s not worth us sweating over.<br />
<br />
I support him, and I encourage him to be brave and continue to carry on.</div>
<blockquote><p>朝浪无语:<br />
某些人既然喜欢拿美国与中国来对比，但不愿意承认两者之间国情不同。那么我倒想问问：<br />
某人凭什么臆想美国会如何如何？<br />
驱逐出境是不是惩治？禁止入境是不是惩治？美国没有用这几招？何必一厢情愿的给自己圆谎？</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">Silent Rising Wave:<br />
<br />
Since some people like to compare China to America, but aren&#39;t willing to admit any difference in national condition between these two countries, I just want to ask:<br />
<br />
On what are you basing your conjecture in saying America is such-and-such?<br />
<br />
Do you feel that expelling people from the country is a punishment or not? And barring them from entering the country? Hasn&#39;t America done precisely both of these things? Why should only one of these countries have to cover up its own hypocrisy?</div>
<blockquote><p>相逢于海上:<br />
[quote]某些人既然喜欢拿美国与中国来对比，但不愿意承认两者之间国情不同。那么我倒想问问：<br />
某人凭什么臆想美国会如何如何？<br />
驱逐出境是不是惩治？禁止入境是不是惩治？美国没有用这几招？何必一厢情愿的给自己圆谎？ &#8230;[/quote]<br />
我只知道驱逐出境、禁止入境是针对外国人的<br />
还真没听说这个可以用来对付本国公民</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">Met on the Sea:<br />
<br />
<em>Since some people like to compare China to America, but aren&#39;t willing to admit any difference in national condition between these two countries, I just want to ask:<br />
<br />
On what are you basing your conjecture in saying America is such-and-such?<br />
<br />
Do you feel that expelling people from the country is a punishment or not? And barring them from entering the country? Hasn&#39;t America done precisely both of these things? Why should only one of these countries have to cover up its own hypocrisy?</em><br />
<br />
All I know is that deporting or barring people from the country is only used on foreigners.<br />
I&#39;ve really never heard of this being used on a country&#39;s own citizens.</div>
<blockquote><p>朝浪无语:<br />
[quote]<br />
我只知道驱逐出境、禁止入境是针对外国人的<br />
还真没听说这个可以用来对付本国公民[/quote]<br />
我就知道某些人就是凭主观臆想大放厥词，已经习惯了</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">Silent Rising Wave:<br />
<br />
<em>All I know is that deporting or barring people from the country is only used on foreigners.<br />
I&#39;ve really never heard of this being used on a country&#39;s own citizens.</em><br />
<br />
You see, some people can only resort to subjective assumptions and babble, not like I&#39;ve never seen that before.</div>
<blockquote><p>相逢于海上:<br />
只要他没有加入外国国籍<br />
他就是拥有中国国籍的中国公民</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">Met on the Sea:<br />
<br />
As long as he hasn&#39;t acquired foreign citizenship<br />
He&#39;s still a Chinese citizen with Chinese citizenship</div>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chinese activist Tan Zuoren was sentenced to 5 year imprisonment and 3 year deprivation of political rights this morning (Feb 9) under the charge of inciting subversion of state power. Tan was involved in the investigation of the relation between bean dregs school buildings and the death of school children in the 2008 Sichuan earthquake [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chinese activist Tan Zuoren was sentenced to 5 year imprisonment and 3 year deprivation of political rights this morning (Feb 9) under the charge of inciting subversion of state power. Tan was involved in the investigation of the relation between bean dregs school buildings and the death of school children in the 2008 Sichuan earthquake by interviewing the parents and compiling a victim list. He was arrested last year and the investigation was stopped accordingly. In his first trial, the evident that the prosecutor presented was mainly about his interviews with overseas media about the earthquake. However, all the proceedings today were linked to June 4th incident. A <a href=http://www.huanghuagang.org/library/6-4%20riji.htm>diary about the June 4th Incident</a> published back in 2007 and email communications with an overseas Chinese dissident Wang Dan through his yahoo.cn email were presented as evidences for the charge. His verdict was read out in less than 10 minutes. (more from <a href=http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/100209/world/china_rights_quake_trial_1>AFP</a>)</p>
<p>Although the news about Tan Zuoren has been harmonized / censored in mainland China, many concerned citizens expressed their anger through twitter. Below is a selected translation of the twitter hashtag <a href=http://twitter.com/search?q=%23tanzuoren>#tanzouren</a>, and the tweets are arranged according to the time line between 9am - 4pm, Feb 9 2010. </p>
<p><strong>Yahoo.cn sells out Tan Zouren, again?</strong></p>
<p>E-mail providers in China have to follow local regulation and provide Chinese police with its clients&#39; information even though some investigations are serving political prosecution and it is not the first time Yahoo.cn betrayed its clients in exchange for the China market. </p>
<blockquote><p><a href=http://twitter.com/daaitoulaam/statuses/8844192943>daaitoulaam</a>: No wonder Alibaba said Yahoo US was over the line for supporting Google against Chinese govt. Alibaba&#39;s Yahoo.cn sells out #tanzuoren, huh?</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>ruanji 美国雅虎虽然不直接经营中国雅虎，暂时作为一个投入10亿资金的大股东，也应该受到谴责。 #tanzuoren</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation"><a href=http://twitter.com/ruanji/statuses/8843089351>ruanji</a> Although yahoo.com does not directly manage yahoo.cn but it is a major stock holder and has invested more than a billion in the business. It should be condemned as well. </div>
<blockquote><p>secretaryzhang “境外敌对分子王丹利用电子邮件与谭作人主动联系”，谭作人使用的邮箱是雅虎中国 zuoren54@yahoo.com.cn #tanzuoren</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation"><a href=http://twitter.com/secretaryzhang/statuses/8842692858>secretaryzhang</a> &#8220;overseas enemy Wang Dan has contacted Tan Zuoren via email&#8221;, and Tan&#39;s email is yahoo.cn: zuoren54@yahoo.com.cn</div>
<p><strong><br />
Anger </strong> </p>
<blockquote><p>Satantara 眼泪无助，愤怒廉价。愤怒会养出心中的暴力政治。民主政治是没有敌人和仇恨的政治( #tanzuoren 语)。他们自己在颠覆自己，不稀你我动手。不说谎，让更多的人知道事实，真相自有万钧之力，改变终会到来。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation"><a href=http://twitter.com/Satantara/statuses/8842464620>Satantara</a> No use shedding tear and it is too easy to be angry. Anger will nourish violence. Democracy should not have enemy nor resentment (#tanzouren&#39;s expression). They are subverting themselves, we don&#39;t need to do that. We do not lie in order let more people knowing the truth. Truth is the most powerful weapon and change will eventually come.</div>
<blockquote><p>hkxforce 為何揭露豆腐渣工程會是煽動顛覆國家政權罪？因為這個政權本身就是豆腐渣政權。 #tanzuoren</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation"><a href=http://twitter.com/hkxforce/statuses/8842377496>hkxforce</a> Why the exposure of bean dregs construction becomes inciting subversion of state power? because this very state power is a bean dregs power bloc. </div>
<blockquote><p>szeyan1220 @28481k @LEMONed 高智晟「失踪」，胡佳3年，刘晓波11年，谭作人5年。起到了多大的威吓作用？唤醒了多少人？我只知道，这是一场持久战，而我无论如何不会认输。历史会审判你们。 #tanzuoren</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation"><a href=http://twitter.com/szeyan1220/statuses/8840736660>szeyan1220</a> @28481k @LEMONed Gao Zhisheng vanished, Hu Jia sentenced to 3 years, Liu Xiaobo 11 years, Tan Zuoren 5 years. How many people it has intimated? How many people it has awakened? This is a long term battle and I will not be defeated. History will be the judge. </div>
<blockquote><p>Feng2084 呼唤非暴力不合作抗争,從今天起，我厭惡任何與暴政苟合的活動！ #tanzuoren</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation"><a href=http://twitter.com/Feng2084/statuses/8839279083>Feng2084</a> let&#39;s call for non-violent civil disobedient act. I despise any act that gives legitimation to the absolute state. </div>
<p><strong>No justice no peace</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>noooo0000 颠覆颠覆颠覆颠覆颠覆颠覆颠覆颠覆颠覆颠覆颠覆颠覆颠覆颠覆颠覆颠覆颠覆颠覆&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.我就是想颠覆!!!我极想颠覆!!!我必颠覆!!! 一生的梦想&#8211;颠覆你!!! #tanzuoren</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation"><a href=http://twitter.com/noooo0000/statuses/8838858505>noooo0000</a> subversion subversion subversion subversion subversion subversion subversion&#8230; I want to subvert!!! I really want to subvert!!! I have to subvert!!! All I am dreaming of is to subvert you!!!</div>
<blockquote><p><a href=http://twitter.com/dgatterdam/statuses/8836840500>dgatterdam</a> Chinese Government, you imprison your Heros, NO JUSTICE NO PEACE! NO JUSTICE NO PEACE NO JUSTICE NO PEACE #tanzuoren</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><a href=http://twitter.com/AlChowh/statuses/8836677311>AlChowh</a> I support any measure to change the status quo,peaceful or violent!!!!#Tanzuoren</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>sanrencn 我们不能被压制而不反抗，我们不能被淹没，而不呐喊。我们微弱的抗议迟早会壮大起来踏平中共的无道 #Tanzuoren</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation"><a href=http://twitter.com/sanrencn/statuses/8836646495>sanrencn</a> We have to fight back when repressed; we have to scream when drowned. Our small resistance will eventual grow into a strong force that defeat the tyranny of the CCP.  </div>
<blockquote><p>gjlawyer 宣判谭作人之后，这个大地上没有了良知，良知被谭作人带进了牢房；宣判谭作人之后，这个大地上没有了正义，正义是谭作人脚下沉重的铁镣。——恸哭中 via (@cuiweiping) #Tanzuoren</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation"><a href=http://twitter.com/gjlawyer/statuses/8835707313>gjlawyer</a> conscience has vanished along with the sentence of Tan Zuoren, Tan brings conscience along with him into the prison; justice has vanished along with the sentence of Tan Zuoren, justice has turned into Tan&#39;s heavy foot chain. &#8212; crying out loud via (@cuiweiping) </div>
<blockquote><p>dante1184 中共正在挑战全中国人的心理极限，追求全人类的无耻之最。畜生不如。去死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死死！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！ #tanzuoren</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation"><a href=http://twitter.com/dante1184/statuses/8835536025>dante1184</a> The CCP is testing the limit of Chinese&#39;s people&#39;s tolerance and it is competing for the most shameless being in this world. It is worse than animal. Go to hell hell hell hell hell hell hell hell hell hell hell hell hell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</div>
<p><strong>Subverting the state with diaries</strong></p>
<blockquote><p><a href=http://twitter.com/wglxh/statuses/8835422784>wglxh</a> They say Tan&#39;s diaries may subvert the government. I think they mean the government of, for, and by perverts. #Tanzuoren</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><a href=http://twitter.com/jidian55/statuses/8835182718>mranti</a> A tweet is a mini-diary - if a diary can &#8220;subvert&#8221; a govt. #Tanzuoren</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>wdrdog 颠覆国家政权，最高可以判处死刑，你我这些 #Twitter 上的发言，都够这个罪，只要他们这样认为。 我们的小命，就这样和谭作人刘晓波们连在了一起。 #Tanzuoren</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation"><a href=http://twitter.com/wdrdog/statuses/8834651244>wdrdog</a> subverting the state power, the maximum sentence can be life imprisonment. What you and me have said in #Twitter can be charged with subversion if they want. Our lives are connected with Tan Zuoren and Liu Xiaobo. </div>
<p><strong>To be human</strong></p>
<blockquote><p>Feng2084 #tanzuoren 當一個個公民面對強權貪腐的垭口失言噤聲，对生命的哀鸿接近麻木的時候，是你站了出來，然而他們今天對你的審判，是卑鄙与无耻对良知与正义的审判，也是对我们的审判，在这一个罪恶的国家里，我们都有罪。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation"><a href=http://twitter.com/Feng2084/statuses/8833883187>Feng2084</a> when citizens were speechless towards the corrupted power, when they were indifferent towards life, you stood out. They have judged you today, it is a judgment of banality and shamelessness towards conscience and justice, it is also a judgment on everyone of us. In an evil country, we all have sin. </div>
<blockquote><p>wglxh 所有的老师，都是在以各种方式给孩子们给学生们个说法。今天审判谭作人，是审判所有想给下一代一个说法的人。 #Tanzuoren</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation"><a href=http://twitter.com/wglxh/statuses/8833811027>wglxh</a> every teacher tries to explain the truth to our children and pupils. Today&#39;s judgment on Tan Zuoren is also a judgment towards those who try to deliver the truth to our next generation. </div>
<blockquote><p>horse 今天检查的是我们“作人”的底限在哪里。一起来“作人”吧。 #Tanzuoren</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation"><a href=http://twitter.com/horse/statuses/8833668381>horse</a> today is a test on the baseline of our &#8220;being human&#8221;, let&#39;s &#8220;be human&#8221;. (Translator notes: the pronunciation of Tan Zuoren is similar to &#8220;Talk about being human&#8221; in English.)
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		<title>China: Education, critical thinking and creativity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oiwan Lam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[C. Custer from ChinaGeek looks into the China education system and discusses its impact on young people. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C. Custer from ChinaGeek <a href=http://sun-zoo.com/chinageeks/2010/02/07/eduction-critical-thinking-and-creativity/>looks into the China education system and discusses its impact on young people. </p>
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		<title>China: Guilty or not guilty, that&#039;s the question</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Oiwan Lam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Xujun Eberlein from Inside-out China explains the reason behind Beijing lawyer Li Zhuang&#39;s decision to admit the crime of fabricating evidence in the China court. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xujun Eberlein from Inside-out China <a href=http://www.insideoutchina.com/2010/02/what-are-li-zhuang-and-chongqing.html>explains</a> the reason behind Beijing lawyer Li Zhuang&#39;s decision to admit the crime of fabricating evidence in the China court. </p>
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		<title>China: Liu Xiaobo&#039;s final statement</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 05:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Oiwan Lam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[China Law Prof blog posts Prof. David Kelly&#39;s translation of Chinese human rights dissident, Liu Xiabo&#39;s final statement: I have no enemies in his blog. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China Law Prof blog posts Prof. David Kelly&#39;s translation of Chinese human rights dissident, Liu Xiabo&#39;s final statement: <a href=http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/china_law_prof_blog/2010/02/liu-xiaobo-i-have-no-enemies-my-final-statement.html>I have no enemies</a> in his blog. </p>
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		<title>China: Upgrading a four star hotel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oiwan Lam</dc:creator>
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		<title>Westerners need self-reflection before criticizing China</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Yee</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In an afterword to the 2006 edition of The End of History and the Last Man, Francis Fukuyama depicted a possible scenario of world politics: the victory of an authoritarian type of capitalism over liberal democratic capitalist states. While this is not his preferred destination, it is moving in that direction.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an afterword to the 2006 edition of <em><a href="http://www.opendemocracy.net/democracy-fukuyama/fukuyama_3852.jsp">The End of History and the Last Man</a></em>, Francis Fukuyama depicted a possible scenario of world politics: the victory of an authoritarian type of capitalism over liberal democratic capitalist states. While this is not his preferred destination, it is moving in that direction.</p>
<p>The West seems to be annoyed by a series of events: China’s cyber attacks on Western computer networks, <a href="../2010/01/13/china-googles-possible-exile-leads-to-cyber-protests-netizens-on-move/">disputes with Google</a>, crackdowns on <a href="../2009/12/25/china-liu-xiaobo-sentenced-to-11-years/">human rights activists</a>, execution of a <a href="../2009/12/30/china-akmals-death-sentence-a-resolute-no-to-memory-of-humiliation/">British citizen</a>, and its unhelpful role ranging from the <a href="../2009/12/26/china-how-did-copenhagen-end-up-our-fault/">climate change talks</a> to Iran’s nuclear program. The list goes on. Pundits point to the increasing threats posted by an increasingly self-confident China.</p>
<p>But before going on criticizing China, let’s view the matter from another angle: The West’s response to China’s economic reform and opening. It plays an important part in fuelling China’s self-confidence, one of the key themes discussed in posts by Chinese scholar <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/zhongwen/simp/china/2010/02/100201_google_zhuxueqin.shtml">Zhu Xueqin</a> (朱学勤) on BBC Chinese Web and <a href="http://www.bullogger.com/blogs/ludiblog/archives/352400.aspx">Lu Di</a> (芦笛) on Bullogger.com.</p>
<p><strong>China</strong><strong>’s great gamble</strong></p>
<p>Deng Xiaoping, China’s legendary reformist leader, once said, ‘no matter black or white, it is a good cat as long as it can catch a mouse.’ It is this pragmatism that underlies China’s economic reform in 1978 after the disastrous decade of Cultural Revolution. China’s embrace of capitalism, as Zhu Xueqin likens it, successfully turns itself into a cat that catches many mice, or Western capitalist democratic nations:</p>
<blockquote><p>小平投注的是猫，猫鼠联姻，被吃的是鼠，不是猫。</p></blockquote>
<p class="translation">Xiaoping placed a bet on the cat. In the marriage between cat and mouse, the one being eaten is the mouse, not the cat.</p>
<p>Even at the most dangerous moment of the gamble, the Tiananmen Incident of 1989, China’s authoritarianism steered itself out of dangers, thanks to Western capitalists:</p>
<blockquote><p>世纪豪赌最危险的时候，是1989至1991那三年。坦克一上街，所有的老鼠都吓得屁滚尿流，外资大撤退，内资亦不继，GDP直线下降，中国面临崩盘，真可能玩完。小平同志跑到南方画一个圈，说一句“不问姓社姓资”，招商引资，春雷滚滚。</p></blockquote>
<p class="translation">The dangerous moment of the gamble is between 1989 and 1991. With tanks on the streets, all mice were scared. Foreign investments retreated, GDP nosedived, and China faced imminent collapse. Comrade Xiaoping, during his Southern Tour, said ‘I don’t care if it is socialism or capitalism.’ With one strike, he reopened the floodgate for foreign investments again.</p>
<blockquote><p>亏得小平高瞻远瞩，还能“不争论”，带头招商引资，引无数老鼠竞折腰。让一点市场，撒几把米粒算得了什么？资本家，资本家，我就不信资本家来了，资本家的政府不来！果然，西洋各国寻米而来，争抢中国订单，哪一国总理订单要少了，回去还有受民主舆论的喝斥。经济制裁是这样打破的，政治制裁则不消说，强虏烟飞灰灭，1989政治危机就是这样度过的。</p></blockquote>
<p class="translation">With Deng’s far-sightedness and welcoming of foreign capitals, the mice just could not resist. What tiny cost it is just to open up the market a bit! Capitalists, capitalists, I don’t believe that once capitalists come to China, their governments would not follow! Indeed, Western countries come in one by one for Chinese contracts. What’s more, those governments which secured too few contracts would be criticized by its own constituencies and media. The economic sanction was broken in this way, not to mention political isolation. The crisis of 1989 was resolved.</p>
<p><strong>Capitalism and universal values</strong></p>
<p>Reflecting on Zhu’s article, Lu Di is not so sure whether Western civilization could insist on the universal values of justice and freedom in face of China’s capitalism:</p>
<blockquote><p>其实列宁早就发现这点了。还在西方文明世界封锁苏俄时，他便断言，甭看帝国主义跟咱们貌似势不两立，贪婪是资本家的本性，因此他们迟早要来和我们做生意，帮助我们把国家弄得强大起来。老邓之所以在中国翅膀未硬前，便敢冒全世界之大不韪血洗北京城，也无非是吃透了西方的道义高调是假的，再“义薄云天”，最后还是得为铜臭弯腰钻狗洞，虽则可能是掩着鼻。</p></blockquote>
<p class="translation">Actually, Lenin discovered this long ago. When Western civilization was boycotting Soviet  Union, he judged that greed was the nature of capitalists. Sooner or later, they would come and do business with Soviet Union. The reason that Deng decided to bloodily suppress the Tiananmen protest of 1989, at a time when China was weak, was that he saw the hypocrisy of the West. No matter how noble or just your cause is, you just could not resist but bend down for coins.</p>
<p>He discussed his views on a number of recent cases:</p>
<blockquote><p>谷歌与雅虎的区别，说起来也很可怜：雅虎完全接受后面这一条，甚至向中国政府提供异议人士的通信内容，导致师涛被重判，而谷歌本已同意中国政府有权管制资讯，只是实在难以同意中国政府有权窥探公民隐私。区别也就只在这点上而已。就连这最后的底线，谷歌能否最后守住，也还在未定之天。</p></blockquote>
<p class="translation">Talking about Google and Yahoo, it’s sad to note about their difference, which is tiny: Yahoo completely accepted [Chinese government’s intrusion on privacy], and supplied communications information of dissidents, resulting in the heavy imprisonment of Shi Tao. Google had in principle accepted Chinese government’s right to control information, and only did not accept intrusion on privacy. This is the only difference, and it is uncertain whether Google could keep to this bottomline.</p>
<blockquote><p>不难看出当局为何敢重判刘晓波：第一，他们吃准了鬼子为了钱不敢作声，顶多只是不疼不痒地咋呼两声，但经济制裁之类的凶器是再也没本事亮出来了。第二，他们吃准了“民心所向”，知道大部份或起码是相当大的比例的精英出于自家利益反对“普世价值观”，因此无论他们怎么胡作非为，都不会引起国内舆论民情强烈反弹。</p></blockquote>
<p class="translation">It is not difficult to see why the Chinese government dared to heavily imprison Liu Xiaobo: First, they knew that Westerners, for the sake of commercial interests, would control their reaction, at most mumbling a word or two. Economic sanction is a weapon the West no longer posses. Second, they knew that domestic elites would oppose to so-called ‘universal values’ out of their own interests. Therefore, no matter what the government does, there would not be strong backlashes.</p>
<blockquote><p>这说明了什么？道义在金钱面前的脆弱。普世价值观再崇高，也抵挡不住银弹攻势。自由世界不怕苏联的核弹，但在我党的糖衣炮弹面前只能乖乖投降。</p></blockquote>
<p class="translation">What do these show? The weakness of justice in front of money. Universal values could not survive the ‘money offensive’, no matter how noble they are. The free world is not afraid of Soviet nuclear bombs, but has no choice but to surrender under China’s sugar-coated bullets.</p>
<p><strong>Goodbye Google</strong></p>
<p>Is the West’s hope that engagement with China economically will lead to political reforms merely wishful thinking? Zhu quoted some philosophical reflections on the relationship between capitalism and authoritarianism:</p>
<blockquote><p>市场经济与现代宪政并不具有必然因果关系，前者是后者的必要条件，而不是必要充分条件。也就是说，无市场经济必无宪政民主，有市场经济则不一定必有宪政民主，两者之间还要有其它条件。</p></blockquote>
<p class="translation">Market economy and modern constitutionalism do not necessarily have causal relations. The former is a necessary condition for the latter, but by no means a necessary and sufficient condition. In other words, without market economy, there is no modern constitutionalism. But market economy does not imply modern constitutionalism. Other conditions must exist.</p>
<p>Zhu ended his article with a pessimistic note:</p>
<blockquote><p>中国猫完成了转基因，输血者恰是被食者，自然界多了一种新物种。内鼠也好，外鼠也罢，总有一天都会噬脐莫及。硕鼠硕鼠，适彼乐土，回你的美国老家吧，别了，司徒雷登，别了，谷歌搜索！</p></blockquote>
<p class="translation">The China Cat has transformed its DNA. Those which feed it are also those being eaten. The world now has a new species. Whether the mouse is within or outside it, they will all be eaten. Big mouse, Big mouse, this land does not suit you. Go back to America. Goodbye John Leighton Stuart, goodbye Google!</p>
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		<title>China: Race and racial conflicts</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2010/02/03/china-race-and-racial-conflicts/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Oiwan Lam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[C. Custer from ChinaGeeks interviewed famous Chinese blogger Hecaitou on race issue in China. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C. Custer from ChinaGeeks interviewed famous Chinese blogger <a href=http://sun-zoo.com/chinageeks/2010/02/03/hecaitou-on-race-in-china/>Hecaitou on race issue in China. </p>
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		<title>China: Why cover up Weixian mining disaster</title>
		<link>http://globalvoicesonline.org/2010/02/02/china-why-cover-up-weixian-mining-disaster/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 05:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Oiwan Lam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ESWN translated a China Youth Daily story about the rationality of local government officials who attempted to cover up a mining disaster.
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		<title>China: Survey on Chinese Twitter users</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Oiwan Lam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kenengba conducted a Chinese Twitter user survey on Jan 27 2010. Apart from mapping out the background of Chinese twitterers, the blogger wants to find out why Chinese netizens take all the trouble to get around the Great Fire Wall for getting access to Twitter. He received around 1,000 responses and posted the finding in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenengba conducted a Chinese Twitter user survey on Jan 27 2010. Apart from mapping out the background of Chinese twitterers, the blogger wants to find out why Chinese netizens take all the trouble to get around the Great Fire Wall for getting access to Twitter. He received around 1,000 responses and <a href=http://www.kenengba.com/post/2540.html>posted the finding in his blog</a>. </p>
<p><a href="http://globalvoicesonline.org/2010/02/01/china-survey-on-twitter-users/twitter-survey-2/" rel="attachment wp-att-120730"><img src="http://globalvoicesonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/twitter-survey-2-300x177.jpg" alt="Gender distribution" title="Gender distribution" width="300" height="177" class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-120730" /></a></p>
<blockquote><p>数据显示13%的受访者为女性，87%为男性。这与大多数人的预测基本吻合，中文Twitter圈子阳气过重，男性推友应该鼓励身边的女性朋友上Twitter，不然，按照这个比例，在Twitter上找到女朋友的几率不会很大。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">According to the data, 13% of the respondents is female and 87% is male which is consistent to most people&#39;s observation. Chinese Twitter circle is too masculine. Male twitterers should encourage your female friend to use Twitter or else chance for meeting girl friend here would be very low.</div>
<p><a href="http://globalvoicesonline.org/2010/02/01/china-survey-on-twitter-users/twitter-survey-3/" rel="attachment wp-att-120735"><img src="http://globalvoicesonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/twitter-survey-3-300x221.jpg" alt="Age distribution" title="Age distribution" width="300" height="221" class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-120735" /></a></p>
<blockquote><p>数据显示大多数推友的年龄在21-29岁之间，这部分推友占了将近70%的比例。&#8230;在接受调查的推友里，年龄最小的是12岁，最大的为55岁。下面是年龄分布直方图，很明显地，推友的年龄呈正态分布&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">70% of the twitterers is between 21-29, the youngest twitterer is only 12 and the oldest is 55. Below is a bar chart on the age distribution. It is in normal distribution. </div>
<p><a href="http://globalvoicesonline.org/2010/02/01/china-survey-on-twitter-users/twitter-survey-4/" rel="attachment wp-att-120736"><img src="http://globalvoicesonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/twitter-survey-4-300x207.jpg" alt="Education background" title="Education background" width="300" height="207" class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-120736" /></a></p>
<blockquote><p>持有或即将持有本科学历的占了中文Twitter用户的绝大部分，硕士学历的推友是Twitter中文圈的第二大群体，接下来是大专学历的推友。</p>
<p>同时我们也应该注意到，一群高中生正在向Web2.0拥抱。</p>
<p>若干年前，有着自由思想的大学生做了一件轰动的事。现在，掌权者怎么可能轻易让大学生上Twitter？</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">The majority of the users has bachelor degree and the second largest group is master degree holders followed by twitters with tertiary education background.</p>
<p>We should notice that a group of high school students is running towards Web 2.0. </p>
<p>Many years ago, liberal minded university students marked our history, the authority will never allow undergraduate using Twitter.  </p></div>
<p><a href="http://globalvoicesonline.org/2010/02/01/china-survey-on-twitter-users/twitter-survey-1/" rel="attachment wp-att-120694"><img src="http://globalvoicesonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/twitter-survey-1-300x208.jpg" alt="Gender and geographical information" title="Gender and geographical information" width="300" height="208" class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-120694" /></a></p>
<blockquote><p>将近一半的受访推友来自北京、上海、广东三地，接下来分别是：浙江、江苏、福建。。。这6个地区的推友占了总数的67%。从地图上看，这6个地区都位于沿海地区，经济相对比较发达。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">More than half of the respondents come from Beijing, Shanghai and Guangdong followed by Zhejiang, Jiangsu and Fujian&#8230; The 6 regions constitute 67% of the respondents. They are located along the coastal line and economically more well off. </div>
<blockquote><p>从数据里可以看到，学生推友占了将近30%，然后是“计算机软、硬件”行业15%、“互联网产品相关”12.5%。如果将后两者归类为IT行业，那学生和IT人士占了推友的50%以上，他们是Twitter的主力军。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">The data shows that about 30% of the respondents are students followed by computer software and hardware sector (15%) and then Internet related production sector (12.5%). If we group the two into I.T industry, then we can see that students and I.T professionals are the key player in Twitter community as they together constitute more than 50% of the respondents. </div>
<p>As for the question on why they choose to take all the trouble for getting access to Twitter, here is a list of their answer:</p>
<blockquote><p>1、了解真相，开拓视野<br />
2、用微博客随时随地记录生活、分享生活<br />
3、获取资讯，关注民主政治<br />
4、因为饭否被关了<br />
5、每周要给火星同事扫盲（误），把twitter作为各种八卦消息来源<br />
6、开始是为了follow喜欢的球星，后来渐渐喜欢上twitter的一切！<br />
7、觉得twitter的交流方式很有趣<br />
8、在这里信息无审查，信息最原始的传递逻辑得以在twitter保留<br />
9、打发时间<br />
10、看腿叔（@kcome）<br />
11、我从可能吧知道这个东西，我觉得作为一名党员应该尽可能的多了解世界。<br />
12、在这儿我想说什么就说什么。而不用去考虑，这句话我该不该说，该怎么说。会不会说过了而触犯了什么“法律”。 这就是自由的味道，我喜欢这种味道。<br />
13、在政治灌输很严重的军校，Twitter让我能保持独立的公民意识。<br />
14、大学老师介绍<br />
15、这里说谎的人少<br />
16、工作需要<br />
17、新闻系学生的必然选择<br />
18、仅凭对新技术的热爱<br />
19、最早是因为某暗恋的女生在上Twitter，所以我也…<br />
20、为什么不上twitter？</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">1. To know the truth and open the horizon<br />
2. To record and share my life<br />
3. To get information and show my concern about democracy<br />
4. Because Fanfou has been shut down<br />
5. To get all the gossips in order to clear information for my colleagues who live in Mars<br />
6. Follow the planet that I like and later fall in love with everything in Twitter<br />
7. The exchange in Twitter is very interesting<br />
8. No censor here and we can preserve the primary mode of communication here<br />
9. To kill time<br />
10. To follow uncle leg (@kcome)<br />
11. I learn about twitter from kenengba and feel that as a party member I should learn more about this world<br />
12. I can say what I want here without considering whether I should say this or how I should say this. Whether or not I would violate any law. This is the taste of freedom that I enjoy.<br />
13. In an army school where ideological control is very strict, Twitter allows me to keep my independent citizen conscious.<br />
14. University teacher introduces me here<br />
15. Less liars here<br />
16. Job requirement<br />
17. An inevitableness choice for journalist student<br />
18. Passion for new technology<br />
19. At first I come here because I have a crush with a girl who is using Twitter&#8230;<br />
20. Why not?</div>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 08:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Oiwan Lam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geremie R. Barmé from China Beat contextualizes the recent debate between China and U.S on Internet freedom around Google incident under the CCP&#39;s struggle against the peaceful evolution of its political system back in 1959 and 1989. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geremie R. Barmé from <em>China Beat</em> <a href=http://www.thechinabeat.org/?p=1422>contextualizes the recent debate between China and U.S</a> on Internet freedom around Google incident under the CCP&#39;s struggle against the peaceful evolution of its political system back in 1959 and 1989. </p>
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		<title>China: Threatened by American Internet censorship</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reactions from Chinese programmers to SourceForge.net's decision to follow American law and block users from several countries include suggestions for how to work around American censorship of the global Internet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just days after American Secretary of State <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_Clinton">Hillary Clinton</a>&#39;s <a href="http://neteffect.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/01/21/cyber_cold_war">speech on Internet freedom</a>, open source source code repository SourceForge.net <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SourceForge#Banned_countries">blocked access</a> to IP addresses originating in Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan and Syria.</p>
<p>SourceForge <a href="http://sourceforge.net/blog/clarifying-sourceforgenets-denial-of-site-access-for-certain-persons-in-accordance-with-us-law/">justifies the move</a> saying they are only following <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Foreign_Assets_Control">American law</a>. Which is more or less the same argument Chinese government spokespeople make when questioned about <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_People%27s_Republic_of_China">their country&#39;s Internet censorship</a>.</p>
<p>SourceForge has been <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SourceForge#Temporary_bans_in_China">blocked by China</a> before. Hearing word of this new Great Firewall of America left some Chinese coders wondering if they might now start getting blocked from the other end and what can be done about it.</p>
<div id="attachment_120208" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://www.moon-blog.com/2008/10/godaddy-and-sourceforge-blocked-in-china-again.html"><img src="http://globalvoicesonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/sourceforgeblock-300x241.jpg" alt="sourceforgeblock" title="sourceforgeblock" width="300" height="241" class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-120208" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo from William Lone&#39;s Moonlight Blog.</p></div>
<p>At CNBeta on the day the news broke, ugmbbc <a href="http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/102916.htm">wrote</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>在今天，开源精神遭到了践踏，SourceForge会因为他们被要求屏蔽流氓国家而去美国国会抗议么？</p>
<p>这是个棘手的问题，难道仅仅因为这几个国家的极少数的一部分人的极端行为，就要整个国家遭到惩罚么？开源软件为这些受到压迫和发展中的国家提供了重要的基础设施。希望美国政府能够看到对这些国家基础设施和羽翼未丰的产业带来的打击。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">Open source culture got trampled today. Having been required to blocked these rogue nations, will SourceForge go protest to the American Congress?<br />
<br />
It&#39;s a tricky situation, but does an entire country have to be punished just because of the extreme actions of a tiny minority of the people in these countries? Open source software provides important infrastructure to these oppressed and developing nations. I hope the American government can see what a blow this is to the infrastructure and fledgling industries in these countries.</div>
<p>Over at geek community Solidot, free-as-in-freedom <a href="http://internet.solidot.org/article.pl?sid=10/01/25/151231&#038;from=rss">notes</a> that this move by SourceForge follows earlier restrictions on users from these five countries, allowing them to browse the site and download source code, but barring them from contributing any.  Comments there include:</p>
<blockquote><p>Alpha.Roc:<br />
SourceForge 还是要遵守美国法律的呀？</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">SourceForge has to abide by American laws!</div>
<blockquote><p>alvan:<br />
SourceForge为什么一定要遵从自由软件精神？软件只是代码，所以可以自由中立；但是网站是离不开服务器的，你的服务器放在哪个国家，就要遵从这个国家的法律——这个天经地义呀。</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">Why should SourceForge stay true to open source culture? Software is just code, which makes it both free and neutral; but websites can&#39;t escape the servers which host them, and you have to obey the laws of whichever country your server is situated in, that&#39;s just how it goes.</div>
<blockquote><p>pynets:<br />
这是人家的自由</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">It <em>is</em> their freedom</div>
<p>erlv at his technical blog LingCC <a href="http://www.lingcc.com/2010/01/26/10671/">looks at</a> the implications of politics encroaching upon the open source movement:</p>
<blockquote><p>每个喜欢互联网技术，拥护开源的人都不想让开源沦为政治工具，但这是一个政治主导的世界，你得听政府的，政府是老大，你在政府的地盘上混，管你什么道义，什么自由，什么开源，统统只是工具。</p>
<p>我不是在鼓吹网络长城多么利国利民，但我们确实需要一种手段，让我们与国外能自由交流的同时，能摆脱对他们的依赖。正如现在国内，开源爱好者们都很乐于将自己的代码贡献出来，给开源社区，但当它变成政治工具的时候，我们如何取得该属于我们的权利？</p>
<p>SourceForge.net好像在国内还没有官方的镜像服务器. 如果我们的官老爷们真的为我国的信息产业处心积虑，鞠躬尽瘁的话，倒不如拿支持防火长城项目1%的钱，作为政府鼎力支持，在国内建几个开源镜像服务器，这样，至少我们还能有所有的源码，至少我们有了独立自主！</p></blockquote>
<div class="translation">Nobody who&#39;s a fan of technology or supports open source wants to see open source become a political tool, but then this is a world ruled by politics; you can say all you want about principles, freedom or open source, but when you&#39;re on the government&#39;s turf, the government calls the shots, so you better listen: those are just tools.<br />
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I&#39;m not saying the GFW is good for the country or the people, rather that we need to take some steps to ensure that at the same time we&#39;re able to freely communicate with those overseas, we can stop having to rely on them. Here now in the mainland, for instance, all open source fans are happy to contribute their code with the rest of the open source community. But when that becomes a political tool, how are we supposed to obtain those rights that belong to us?<br />
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I don&#39;t think SourceForge has any mirror servers in China. If those in charge really wanted to scheme on behalf of our country&#39;s information industries and were willing to do what it takes, it wouldn&#39;t hurt for them to take 1% of the money they spend on the GFW, as sincere support from the government, and set up a few mirror servers inside the country. At least this way, we&#39;d still have all our own code. At least we&#39;d still have our own independence!</div>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dechen Pemba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A young Tibetan blogger based in the US, who goes by the name of &#8220;Jhutok&#8221; (one of those untranslatable Tibetan words that describes someone who is nosy and likes to interfere, gossip and busybody all in one), has written a blogpost about written Tibetan, arguing for language reform to written Tibetan to include spaces between [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A young Tibetan blogger based in the US, who goes by the name of &#8220;Jhutok&#8221; (one of those untranslatable Tibetan words that describes someone who is nosy and likes to interfere, gossip and busybody all in one), has written a blogpost about written Tibetan, arguing for language reform to written Tibetan to include spaces between the words. She calls it &#8220;breathing space&#8221;. (<a href=http://yuthoklane.blogspot.com/2010/01/breathing-space-how-word-separation-can_27.html>Part I</a>, <a href=http://yuthoklane.blogspot.com/2010/01/how-word-separation-can-save-tibetan.html>Part II</a> and <a href=http://yuthoklane.blogspot.com/2010/01/breathing-space-how-word-separation-can_4330.html>Part III</a>)</p>
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		<title>China: Animal cruelty law</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 05:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Oiwan Lam</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joel Martinsen translates the mainstream media&#39;s discussion on drafting of animal cruelty law. The new law may ban the selling and eating of dog and cat&#39;s meat.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel Martinsen translates the mainstream media&#39;s discussion on <a href=http://www.danwei.org/front_page_of_the_day/a_law_against_cruelty_to_pets.php>drafting of animal cruelty law</a>. The new law may ban the selling and eating of dog and cat&#39;s meat.</p>
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